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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 21 2011 18:07 GMT
#429
On June 21 2011 16:45 Xedat wrote:
I still think gtrsrs is scum.
And me attacking you is not being wishy washy gtrsrs.

##vote: gtrsrs


really now, do you?
it's funny that you say "still" because as far as i can tell you've never actually thought i was scum
let's take a stroll through your posts shall we

On June 17 2011 07:32 Xedat wrote:
Another question:
Are dead mafia players allowed to give advice/talk in the mafia Quicktopic?


didn't notice this til now. why would a town ever need to know this? not enough to be suspicious of someone but it sure does lend credibility to my case.

On June 18 2011 19:10 Xedat wrote:
Generic post not to be modkilled.....
To say one last word to the setup discussion, I think blues should only claim when they are being lynched or if they think outing themselves will help town.
Now, as we need to pressure someone, Drazerk, why do you bring the focus away from freeloader immediately and try to incriminate 3 people who haven't posted hours after the game started. Trying to protect your scumbuddy?


bolded blue noted for later

On June 18 2011 19:36 Xedat wrote:
Aha, why so defensive. Scared to be lynched? Maybe they didn't lurk but simply did not read the thread until now.

On June 18 2011 23:00 Xedat wrote:
Yeah, I am not actually suspecting you, just tried to get someone talking. We will see if someone slips something stupid, otherwise it will be a random lynch tomorrow I think.


these two posts reek of scummy wishy-washiness. he fake accuses Drazerk and then before anyone can take it seriously, he backs off it. "oh no no i wasn't actually accusing him lol LET'S WAIT FOR SCUM TO SLIP"

On June 19 2011 17:31 Xedat wrote:
I agree that we should not waste our lynch on an inactive player. I find it quite strange that Drazerk does not really defend himself after it looks like he is to be lynched. There has been a lot of discussion about him and I think lynching the most talked about player actually has some merit, as it will help us scumhunting. As others have said, just waiting until someone slips is not a winning strategy.

If you are under fire, please defend yourself properly. I know that it is pretty difficult on day one, but saying nothing is the worst you can do.

##vote: Drazerk


"wait for scum to slip? that's the dumbest thing anyone's ever said lol!! oh, it was exactly what i said in my last post? PANIC VOTE"

On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote:
It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself.
I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him.
To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore.
I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is.
##unvote: Drazerk
##vote: gtrsrs


see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes. Drazerk offered NO defense whatsoever, nothing even resembling a defense, but Xedat was all too happy to pull his vote off his scumbuddy now that the pressure was on me instead. with only a handful of posts, none of which have ANY substance, Xedat "doesn't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore". el oh el.


On June 20 2011 05:46 Xedat wrote:
##unvote gtrsrs
##vote: appruds


I think he has defended himself enough and the tunneling by Drazerk and appruds is a bit too crazy.


wishy washy much? as soon as i claim medic, which you'll remember he asked blues to do ealier in the thread he pulls his vote off me and puts it on aprudds, who is just an over-eager townie. now remember, mafia knows who is town. as long as *someone* was getting lynched, mafia doesn't care. that's why Xedat has been so adamant about lynching someone today instead of doing the smart thing and voting for Lord Vatti.

On June 20 2011 05:48 Xedat wrote:
EBWODP:
If appruds is not scum gtrsrs probably is scum and not medic.
Lets see what the night brings.


an interesting change in position seeing as you told blues to claim if they were being lynched.


On June 20 2011 05:51 Xedat wrote:
I don't know what to do anymore. I don't think gtrsrs is mafia by now, why do oyu think Drazerk is more scummy than appruds gtrsrs?


really? last post you said i was scum if aprudds flipped green. THIS IS THE DEFINITION OF WISHY-WASHY SCUM, TRYING TO SPREAD CONFUSION


On June 20 2011 05:55 Xedat wrote:
Yes everyone seems to be active right now.
My vote stays on appruds, I am going to bed.
This is why you don't lynch inactive people day one gtrsrs, at least we have a lot of stuff to work with tommorow.
If we had lynched Lord Vatti we would have started with 2 townies down as no one would have said anything worthwhile.
See you guys tomorrow.


no, xedat, this is why you lynch the guy who's already going to die. instead of starting with 2 dead townies, we start with 3 and lose a mis-lynch. but of course mafia sees this as a good thing.

On June 20 2011 21:22 Xedat wrote:
looks like gtrsrs is scum, and only because you claimed medic does not mean you are a confirmed medic. On Drazerk analyzing me, the first few posts we did was simply to start a discussion, how that is incriminating is beyond me.
Second of all, being one if the first persons to vote for someon is not "jumping on a bandwagon."
Third of all, if you are town how is changing my vote áway from you scummy in any way?
Also, if you think gtrsrs is town why is it scummy to change my vote from him. If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. The other 2 options were you and appruds. In my eyes you were clear, so I had the choice between a claimed medic someone I thought was town and a more scummy player. Of course I vote for the person that is most scummiest to protect our medic. Voting for someone totally different to get the focus away from me would be the scummy way to play.
Please town, think for yourself and don't let yourself be led by mafia to an early grave.
It is entierly possible that Drazerk and gtrsrs are mafia and do this all to get town cred, but I think it is more probable that only gtrsrs or none of them is mafia.


a nice juicy contradiction-filled post. let's break it down
a. 5 posts ago i was town. 3 posts ago i was scum. 2 posts ago i was not scum. now i'm scum again.
b. no, being one of the first people to vote for someone after the initial vote is the DEFINITION of "jumping on a bandwagon," sorry.
c. now i'm town again, as long as it clears Xedat?
d. "If he is the medic I would be stupid to vote for him. " but you don't think i'm the medic. you think i'm scum. but not enough to actually vote for me?

is anyone else reading this?


On June 21 2011 02:53 Xedat wrote:
So who is mafia in your book gtrsrs? Accusing everyone? You said that between Xedat, Drazerk, CjrNinja and appruds there are 100% percent 3 mafioso. And now suddenly Pyo is mafia too?
Why don't you say anything about appruds?
Lets face it people, gtrsrs is very scummy, take everything he says with a grain of salt and don't just believe him.


who is mafia in my books? Xedat, Drazerk and then someone else. i can't tell if Pyo is being a bad sport or a clever mafia. thinking back, it's unlikely for all three mafia to jump on the bandwagon immediately, that would be too obvious. so i'm feeling CjrNinja less and less. it's still a possibility however.

as for saying things about aprudds, don't gloss over my posts. IMMEDIATELY after Drazerk jumped ship off me and onto aprudds, i asked people to take their votes of aprudds. it was an extremely blatant scumtell and the town didn't pick up on it. i feel bad for aprudds. he was trying to play like me in a situation where it was unneeded, and it made HIM look really scummy. you and Drazerk orchestrated a voteswing at the last minute before people could pull their votes off of aprudds.




town, to me it is very obvious that Xedat is scum. i think Drazerk is as well, but i feel like Xedat is the better vote here. i know this now looks like 2 days in a row that i've soft-defended Drazerk, but that's not the case i swear. hopefully this is enough for you guys to put your vote on the obvious mafia

##vote: Xedat
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 21 2011 18:08 GMT
#430
On June 22 2011 02:58 Xedat wrote:
I would also like to chime in and say that gtrsrs' bad mannered style makes me not want to play the game. But he also did it when he was town so that does not mean he is scum.
Just check if he signs up to the same game you do, I will.


play to win, don't play to make friends
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 21 2011 18:19 GMT
#431
On June 22 2011 03:07 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote:
It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself.
I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him.
To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore.
I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is.
##unvote: Drazerk
##vote: gtrsrs


see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes. Drazerk offered NO defense whatsoever, nothing even resembling a defense, but Xedat was all too happy to pull his vote off his scumbuddy now that the pressure was on me instead. with only a handful of posts, none of which have ANY substance, Xedat "doesn't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore". el oh el.



also, whoops, forgot to hyperlink. that should read:

see my post earlier (here) for why this solidified Xedat as scum in my eyes
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 21 2011 18:43 GMT
#433
On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote:
>feigning disinterest, check
>saying you won't help the town any more, check
>laying out your voting pattern before any evidence is presented, check
>voting for the 4 most pro-town players first, check
>leaving the 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th votes, respectively, check
On June 22 2011 03:36 Pyo wrote:
There's a huge difference between playing to win/not playing to make friends and being huge jackass.

>ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check
>derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check

On June 22 2011 02:45 gtrsrs wrote:
duly noted scum
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 21 2011 19:10 GMT
#435
On June 22 2011 04:05 Pyo wrote:
- 2 confirmed mafia for 5th and 7th? what? As far as I can tell the only confirmed mafia is you.


the whole town knows that drazerk is mafia, and i just made a waterproof case against xedat. i'm the medic as has been established repeatedly. if you think i'm mafia make a case, I WILL GLADLY REFUTE IT. stop trying to muck up the thread and lead town away from lynching reds.

if you're so disinterested in the game, get a sub. you're not helping town with your current posts, and voting for the confirmed medic. if you won't get a sub, you're feigning disinterest because you're mafia.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 21 2011 19:19 GMT
#438
On June 22 2011 04:14 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 03:43 gtrsrs wrote:
>ignoring my analysis of your scumbuddy, check
>derailing the thread with petty 1-liner insults, check


what analysis? you mean your incoherent spam? right.

You began by sort of laying low until you were called out on it. Then you went into hyper ass hole mode. And when people actually believed that you're the medic, you proceeded to try and tell everyone what to do. You aren't doing analysis, you're just trying to dictate what the town does. If you really were the medic, then you have no more information about who is what than anyone else, and less information than the DT (assuming both you and alderan are telling the truth). Everything about what you're doing screams scum, yet it's almost incomprehensible that a mafia would so brazen about it. My only conclusion is that you're a terrible asshole of a townie or an ego-tripping mafia for having convinced people to change their minds after claiming medic.

Either way, trying to analyze your incoherent posting is just pissing me off in a "fuck this game I can't stand this jack-ass" sort of way.


incoherent spam? lol?
please scroll up to this post, it's nice and easy, it's on this very page, and read my irrefutable case against your scum buddy.

i don't have any *more* information about xedat than anyone else. luckily, he's laid out his guilty plainly in the thread so we *all* can see it.

i laid low because i was blue. i tried to get the town to lynch Lord Vatti because i did the math and we had only a 30% chance of hitting a mafia on day 1. WHY WOULDN'T WE TAKE A FREE DAY? trying to spin that as pro-mafia is so bass-ackwards i don't know what to say.

cut the petty insults and step your game up, or get a sub. when you leave we can chalk my number up to 2 mafia i've made rage-quit with my unrelenting correctness
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 06:12 GMT
#451
@flamewheel: that was literally the cutest thing. and i hate cats. but OMG KEUT.

@mods: sorry again in advance for any insults. i've really tried to reign them in since day 1 and i will continue to think twice before hitting the "post" button.

@town: sorry to all for being so overly rude this game. as i've stated multiple times, i was trying to play conservatively this game since i rolled blue. since most of you have relatively little experience, i can see why my change in posting style might have raised some alarms. @freeloader especially, sorry i unloaded on you. i was just so frustrated because obviously to myself, my actions make perfect sense. that being said, i will NOT apologize for playing aggressively now. my whole life i've only derived pleasure from winning, be it in high school sports, league of legends, or even forum mafia. if i'm losing i'm not having fun, so if you make a bad argument or contradict yourself, i will badger you into submission; i will just make sure to not attack you as a person as a way to get my point across.


okay, mushy stuff is over, 1, 2, 3, BREAK! LET'S GET 'EM TEAM


CjrNinja, that's excellent analysis, i'm glad we're on the same page. like i said earlier, upon re-thinking, i thought it would be *too* convenient for all three mafia to jump on my bandwagon with little-to-no-impetus. 2 i can buy, drazerk and xedat have made their alignment pretty clear, but it would be a bit too convenient for all 3 to expose themselves so easily. i'm happy to take you off my FoS list for now :D
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 06:13 GMT
#452
On June 22 2011 15:07 Treadmill wrote:
I'm starting to have some doubts about gtrsrs being mafia but his posting in general has been so anti-town that I'm having trouble seeing him as innocent.


can i ask, with respect, what part of my posting has been "so anti-town"? that's the part i'm struggling to get. i can explain anything i've posted, and i'm happy to defend anything you're suspicious of.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 08:29 GMT
#455
On June 22 2011 16:24 Treadmill wrote:
@gtrsrs: you've been basically trying to get in charge of the town and have been flaming everyone who disagrees with you. and you've been trying to lead the town nowhere (Lord Vatti lynch) and into accomplishing nothing. At this point even if Xedat flips town I'm gonna still suspect that you're just bussing him to gain townie cred.


tell me EXACTLY how random-lynching aprudds helped us more than lynching Lord Vatti would have? it gave us 1 fewer mislynch, and 1 fewer day before mafia can potentially win. i don't see how this is so hard for you to understand, honestly. you're a smart guy.

but once more for clarity i will lay it out for you

>we had an obvious AFKer
>we had NO solid leads on mafia
>we had 70% chance to lynch a townie, 10-20% chance to lynch a blue (which you almost did)
>i push for us to NOT take the extremely high chance to lynch a townie, and everyone labels that as scummy

12-man game with 1 mafia KP per night, 1 lynch per day. assuming a mislynch every day, we only have 3 days before mafia wins. and everyone wants to RUSH THAT by another day by killing 2 townies in 1 day?

my desire to give us an extra day (and in turn, an extra night ding ding i'm the medic hellooo) wasn't so we could "wait around for mafia to kill us." it was the opposite. instead of rushing really poor (statistic-wise) lynches, i wanted to buy extra nights for me to make saves.

imagine you had lynched me day 1 and i hadn't claimed. you know what you would be saying right now? "wow we're really fucked, we should have listened to gtrsrs." don't say you wouldn't. hindsight is 20/20. the fact that the mafia left me alive (their goal - leave an easy lynch for town) is going to bite them in the ass because lo and behold i have another night to make a save.

as for leading the town nowhere, that's just a load of malarky. i have given plenty of watertight evidence to lynch Xedat. when the time comes, i'll lay out an irrefutable case against drazerk too. i don't think it will be necessary since he's transparent and the town is ready to lynch him today anyways, but i'll do it.

i was forced to claim, but my claim will end up helping the town. hopefully if the DT has any sense, he didn't waste a check on me, drazerk, or xedat. i'm assuming he checked you, pyo, supersoft, or one of the other townies that hasn't been accused of anything yet, and got a green. one of you has to be mafia, so when he knows, he'll let us know.

what i'm getting at here is, you need to take your focus off of me and find the other scum. let go of the day 1 bullshit, i got pushed into that and did what i had to do to stay alive. xedat and drazerk are both 100% scum and i'm willing to take full responsibility for the town loss if they aren't. once we get 2 scum down, we'll have much much better numbers and you can systematically lynch me if you still feel that i bussed both of my teammates. how does that sound?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 19:47 GMT
#461
we need to consolidate our votes

with how it is:
gtrsrs (3)
Pyo
Treadmill
Xedat

Xedat (4)
supersoft
Drazerk
gtrsrs
CjrNinja

Drazerk (2)
freeloader625
Alderan


drazerk can just swing his vote off of xedat at the end of the day onto me, to put me in the lead 4-3. freeloader or alderan you need to vote for xedat
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 19:51 GMT
#463
gtrsrs (2)
Pyo
Xedat

Xedat (4)
supersoft
Drazerk
gtrsrs
CjrNinja

Drazerk (3)
freeloader625
Alderan
Drazerk



interesting. i think the case against xedat is stronger. i'd prefer to lynch him today. i wonder what happens when drazerk pulls his vote off of xedat now. it's a 3way tie then. i think technically i hit 3 votes first, but does that "first" get reset now that i'm at 2? would xedat now be the new "first" to hit 3? or does something else happen in a 3-way tie?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 20:46 GMT
#467
On June 23 2011 05:37 Treadmill wrote:
your vote counts are wrong there gtrsrs.


i think my counts were right, i just had Drazerk voting for himself, when that should have been you under his name

it's nearly the end of day 2, correct? as in, we have 20 minutes til the votes are final, not 24 hours and 20 minutes? i can't remember :x
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 21:35 GMT
#479
:|
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 21:36 GMT
#480
um...
well
i'm obviously terrible at this
i was 100% convinced that xedat was scum
how could he not be?

anyways gg mafia i'm sorry town
i don't see how we can win at this point
i quit gg
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 21:37 GMT
#481
boy is there egg on my face
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 21:55 GMT
#484
i'm really sorry town
i led you astray

my entire perception of this game was based on xedat and drazerk being obvious scum. with xedat flipping green i don't even know if drazerk is scum any more. masterfully played by mafia. i am really questioning my ability to even play mafia i literally cannot believe that xedat was green. like my mind is failing to comprehend it

anyways quitting now would be the wrong thing to do. treadmill is right, however. every lynch is lylo. please just kill me tonight mafia. if i don't die tonight, GMarshal can you just make tomorrow like 12 hours if the town votes for me so we can just put this game behind us?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 22:10 GMT
#486
i'm not but it's going to be pointless to argue my case
i made a huge error and i lost the town the game and i'm sorry
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 22:27 GMT
#490
actually
i'm thinking about it more
i think we do not have a DT, and alderan lied about being roleblocked
that means mafia will HAVE to kill me tonight (oh please god kill me) or risk me making a save tonight. if i make a save the town can win, but if mafia kills me they lose their scapegoat

i don't believe in my ability to make decisions any more so i won't lead any more lynches, i'll just sheep along with whatever you guys want. if you have a save suggestion i'll gladly follow it too
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 22 2011 23:29 GMT
#499
i figure i minus whale toss this into the hat
i tried to protect supersoft on night 1
he defended me pretty solidly and i assumed that by throwing the town's attention onto freeloader, mafia would try to WIFOM and protect the next most adamant supporter of me, so i would be the easy lynch today
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 23 2011 01:14 GMT
#507
i don't know if i believe Pyo

before we compile data we need to give a chance for someone else to claim. if you're the real detective then you need to step forward and claim now. give us your n1 report and we can decide who is telling the truth, you or Pyo.

if no one steps forward, we have to take Pyo at his word. not sure why he claimed during the night phase tbh. now mafia can kill one of us and roleblock the other. either way we have 0 chance at a save and 0 new info tomorrow. really should have waited til the day.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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