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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 17:52 GMT
#203
*ding ding ding* scumbell is ringing

while you morons pile your votes onto me, please at least take the time to read the rest of the thread.

here's a great example of mafia jumping onto a bandwagon started by a moron.

On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote:
It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself.
I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him.
To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore.
I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is.

##unvote: Drazerk
##vote: gtrsrs


i bolded, underlined, and italicized the part to note, to make it easy for the second-graders amongst. us.

hey Xedat, what defense was it that Drazerk made, exactly?
here's all his posts between your vote for Lord Vatti, and your changing vote to me. please clarify which part of these posts qualifies as a "defense"

On June 19 2011 22:11 Drazerk wrote:
Right I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point So im going to say this

Don't trust Gtrsrs (yes i know your on my side kinda ) when i flip Green, Which I will he will claim he knew it and try to abuse that town cred for his own good later in the game

He's no where near as ruthless as the last game he's Either a power role trying to stay back or Scum

Also Alderan is still lurking so be careful

On June 19 2011 22:35 Drazerk wrote:
If for what ever reason you decide not to kill me and waste a townie ...

##Unvote: Lord Vatti

##Vote: gtrsrs

On June 19 2011 23:25 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 23:18 Pyo wrote:
On June 19 2011 17:46 freeloader625 wrote:
Now lets assume we all vote to lynch Drazerk. At the very least he'll start posting frantically and we all gain something. This is what you wanted right? Yet you seems so fast to defend him. If he flips green we made the wrong choice but at least we have effectively increased our chance to lynch red by having a list of potential suspects based on voting patterns and bandwagon jumpers. WHY WOULD YOU NOT WANT THIS LIST? Why try so hard to prevent it before it even starts? That is of course unless you already know hes red and want to stop a red lynch before it goes further. You wanted people to talk early game for “information” by pressuring and now you try to shy town away from that very same tactic of pressure and play passive. I just don't get it. Only logic left is protecting buddy scum from getting any more pressure and before he scum slips.



This is bad reasoning. Mafia have no reason to go along with a voting bandwagon on day 1 unless by random circumstance one of their own get targeted, in which case they might drive a bandwagon against someone else. Notice how not a single mafia voted for freeloader day 1 in the last game? If anything mafia will do their best to lay low day 1 voting for nobody in particular unless they can't undo a random bandwagon on one of their own. If that happens they'll probably end up bussing him.

My point here is that regardless of who ends up getting lynched today, even if they flip green, those that voted for that person doesn't necessarily include mafia.


Infact I see it as more the people that DON'T vote for me as more mafia as they know ill Flip green as so let town do their dirty work

On June 19 2011 23:46 Drazerk wrote:
People are going to lynch me for how much my posting habits change regardless I am now going to try and help you as much as possible as I know the situation you will be in after the lynch

Also im a idiot I have established this throughout this game



which part of that was his defense again? was it "I know pretty much nothing i say will save me at this point"? or was it "im a idiot"? maybe it was where he said "People are going to lynch me for how much my posting habits change regardless"? do these almost-english sentences register as a defense to anyone else?

no. you are scum jumping on a bandwagon.

On June 20 2011 00:02 Xedat wrote:
It doesn't look like Drazerk wants to martyr himself.
I also think his defense is half decent. I actually would like to hear what gtrsrs has to say to the people voting for him.
To me it looked like Pyo's first vote on Drazerk was to make the game a bit more livelier and I voted for Drazerk because he didn't respond for that. Right now I don't think that Drazerk is too scummy anymore.
I will change my vote to gtrsrs, let's see who will defend him and what his defense is.

##unvote: Drazerk
##vote: gtrsrs


really? because he's acting much scummier than before. i think he's pretty much solidified himself as scum at this point. but of course, as his scumbuddy you wouldn't see it that way. you think he's in the clear now that the bandwagon is hopping onto me. huge mistake broski, you just revealed yourself as well.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:04 GMT
#208
On June 20 2011 02:52 aprudds wrote:
Don't you dare criticize me for being wishy washy when you don't even have the balls to accuse anyone of anything. You suggest we sit here herping and derping wasting a lynch and waiting for modkills.


i swear to god i got teleported back to the second grade
why are you so stuck on this "wasting" a lynch thing
i did the fucking math, please read my post at least

it's like you people have already forgotten that we had FORTY (40, four times ten, the four holds the ten's place) players last game. we could afford random lynches and shitty bandwagons in the beginning. we have TWELVE people this game. a lynch is worth FOUR LYNCHES from last game. would you have randomly lynched four days in a row last game if four townies got modkilled on day 1? i sure as shit hope not.

i'm not being more passive this game i'm being more conservative. there's a difference. we gain nothing by random lynching today. take your heads out of your asses and this fucking "wasted" lynch mindset. just use your imagination and pretend we had a huge case against Lord Vatti instead. pretend he's posted a lot and we're 100% convinced he's scum. now vote for him. now it's not a "wasted" lynch it's just a mislynch. is that better?

jesus i swear to god i'm going to shoot my dick off if i have to explain the math one more time
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:13 GMT
#212
can we get an updated votecount so the town can see how close they are to throwing the game already?

also sorry if i'm sounding too insulting
when i say "you're a fucking moron" i mean "you're a rocket scientist, a gentleman, and a scholar, but your logic is fucking moronic" it's just easier to type the first one
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:24 GMT
#215
okay it's getting to be crunch time

i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so.

Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk.

I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D.

##vote: Drazerk
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:25 GMT
#217
whoops let me fix that up
##unvote: Lord Vatti
##vote: Drazerk


soz GM
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:37 GMT
#223
quoting so it's on the new page, this is important
On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote:
okay it's getting to be crunch time

i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so.

Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk.

I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D.

##vote: Drazerk

i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:40 GMT
#225
On June 20 2011 03:37 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote:
okay it's getting to be crunch time

i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so.

Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk.

I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D.

##vote: Drazerk


I said you was mafia for defending me so now you attack me as I guessed your game Plan?

Jumping on the bandwagon yourself

Oh well when i flip green everyone will focus you


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if you live through the day i will cry
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:42 GMT
#227
On June 20 2011 03:39 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 03:24 gtrsrs wrote:
okay it's getting to be crunch time

i really hate to compromise my logic in order to save myself but it's imperative that i do so.

Alderan, aprudds since i know you've both been active recently, please change your votes to Drazerk. i'm decently sure that Drazerk, Xedat, and CjrNinja are our mafia, jumping on freeloader's bandwagon to take the pressure off Drazerk.

I will change my vote to Drazerk as well, which will put him in the lead. I'd much rather vote Lord Vatti but if it's me or Drazerk it's gotta be big D.

##vote: Drazerk


Apologizes but I don't share your confidence gtr. Your going to have to let me make my own judgment on this.


good idea, if you keep your vote on alderan you don't have to vote against your scum buddy Drazerk and my blood won't be on your hands either. pretty solid distancing strategy. it's funny that someone who has been hounding others to make a case and make a vote that matters has a single vote on someone that is 100% not going to be lynched

town, take note.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:47 GMT
#230
just like iGrok last game, as soon as i tell you that you're doing something scummy, you change it so as to not look so scummy

interesting
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:50 GMT
#234
On June 20 2011 03:48 aprudds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 03:47 gtrsrs wrote:
just like iGrok last game, as soon as i tell you that you're doing something scummy, you change it so as to not look so scummy

interesting


Keep talking away, it will be funny when you burn scum


you'll be able to fry an egg on your face from how embarrassed you'll be when i don't
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:55 GMT
#235
okay well 6 votes on me is enough.
i was going to wait til an hour before voting ended to do this but with lord vatti gone i will definitely lose this lynch if i don't act now

i am the town's medic. hopefully this should give you insight as to why i wanted to no-lynch today. i was hoping we'd have some outstanding townies show up that would make easy marks for the mafia, and i'd be able to protect one of them. it's kind of pathetic that you guys are forcing me to claim on day 1, your witch hunts are illogical and your inability to listen to reason is sad. in fact, for the sake of my blood pressure i'm glad i'll be dying tonight.

on the plus side, i think freeloader's bandwagon was enough to point out the likely mafia.

between these 4, i'm 100% sure that three are mafia:
Drazerk
Xedat
Cjrninja
aprudds


again i want to point out that i am claiming medic. i won't get a chance to use my powers since i will be dying tonight. but it is *imperative* that you lynch drazerk or xedat today instead of me. letting me die will put you at 9 townies tomorrow which is a HUGE set-back.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 18:57 GMT
#237
On June 20 2011 03:55 gtrsrs wrote:
again i want to point out that i am claiming medic. i won't get a chance to use my powers since i will be dying tonight. but it is *imperative* that you lynch drazerk or xedat today instead of me. letting me die will put you at 9 townies tomorrow which is a HUGE set-back.


sorry, 6* townies, 3 mafia. 9 villagers total.

also since some of you will be skeptical of my claim: last game i was willing to die to get iGrok lynched. this game my play has changed (you have incorrectly labelled it as "passive" when really it's just more "conservative") but what's key to note is that i am NOT going to martyr myself to get Drazerk lynched. if you lynch me today you are gamethrowing, i'm NOT a vanilla townie whose life is expendable to get the GF lynched. you MUST lynch mafia today
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:03 GMT
#240
if there are no counterclaims to medic and you vote me, you are gamethrowing, plain and simple.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:05 GMT
#243
On June 20 2011 04:03 gtrsrs wrote:
if there are no counterclaims to medic and you vote me, you are gamethrowing or mafia, plain and simple.


*good mafia will keep their vote on me now so they don't have to waste a night-kill. mafia voting for me are not gamethrowing.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:08 GMT
#244

i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:13 GMT
#247
there's 6 on me
3 mafia 3 townies
the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:13 GMT
#248
On June 20 2011 04:13 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 04:10 supersoft wrote:
there won't be any counterclaims... If you're mafia, why should the real medic/DT counterclaim and give away his role, only to reinforce your lynch... That would be stupid pretty stupid... And if you are the real Medic and there isn't another powerrole, no one will counterclaim either.
What's the votecount so far?


This is a very good point

Only mafia know what the possible game type is

Got a role blocker with your Scum Friends?

Or are you the roleblocker


just shut up, jesus
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:20 GMT
#251
On June 20 2011 04:15 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
there's 6 on me
3 mafia 3 townies
the three townies need to switch votes to drazerk


You keep saying that yet the only thing you have against me is my own idioticy and me changing my vote to you when I decided to Martyr

Im fine with me dying as i know you would die the day after where if you was medic you would not take that risk


i'm starting to think that you're town, which scares me
between someone claiming town and someone claiming medic i don't see why you'd lynch the medic

if you don't lynch me today, mafia will obviously kill me tonight. i die either way.
if for some reason, they choose to keep me alive because of how suspicious i look, then i have a chance to save someone tonight. it's lose-lose to lynch me and if this is not obvious, then i don't know what to say
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:21 GMT
#252
aprudds, the word YOU'RE looking for is "you're"
"your" is indicative of possession

"Case 1: Your Town" indicates that i own the town, which clearly isn't true

please try re-writing that in english
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 19 2011 19:31 GMT
#258
anyways we're running out of time here
i think town will not see the light
if there is a detective i highly recommend checking on Cjrninja instead of Xedat, aprudds, or Drazerk. i think when i flip medic it will be obvious that 2 of those 3 are mafia, and then it's just a question if the third is mafia or if cjrninja is the scum.

also, don't listen to the bullshit that Drazerk and aprudds and xedat will likely spew. it will sound like this "he was playing so badly we had no choice but to lynch him yada yada yada"

no. that's not how this game works. you don't lynch contributing players. you lynch lurkers. aprudds and Drazerk have spammed up the thread to bury my defenses of myself. they are taking over the game and not letting town think for themselves. i feel sorry for you guys if there's no detective.

good luck y'all. i would point out who i think would be the viable town leader to listen to but i know whoever i point out will get killed tonight and i can't even protect them sorry. i would say i made a mistake this game but i honestly think my death is on freeloader's hands. mafia of course is going to rally onto someone else to take votes off their mafia. of course they're going to jump like vultures onto an easy kill. like i said earlier (which has been conveniently covered up by aprudds and drazerk spam), the fact that i wanted to go for Lord Vatti should have been enough to convince you i am town. my claim should have been unnecessary

you're all geniuses, true gentlemen, and undoubtedly stallions in bed. that being said, your logic is a bit, just a TINY bit lacking. good day
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
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