TL Mafia XLII - Page 66

On June 25 2011 14:03 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

I have been active almost every single day. What have you done? Now all you are trying to do is push 2 townies. I firmly believe fudge is town, and I think you are just trying to make sure we lose here.

On June 15 2011 12:05 sinani206 wrote:
There's no reason to post N0. There's nothing to discuss and there's no reason why anyone should be posting at all. Telling people who to check, shoot, bomb, and kill just allows for WIFOM and confusion which help the mafia. Nothing good can come out of posting N0.

On June 20 2011 00:06 sinani206 wrote:
I'm at the Grand Canyon and have really bad internet, so I can only post like once every few hours, but Node is being really inactive for being on the Zodiac List.
##Vote: Node

On June 22 2011 11:53 sinani206 wrote:
Back from the Grand Canyon!
It was quite fun.
Spent some time with my family, and now I get to go back to living in my room.

Of the 8 voting for RoL (not including me):
1 (Mataza) proved he was Mafia with the whole PM thing. (no shit)
1 (GGQ) voted without posting in the thread
6 voted with a post such as "good evidence" or something like that. Not scummy at all, considering the circumstances.

I propose someone shoots GGQ tonight because he hasn't really contributed at all and killing inactives is the vigilante's job. GGQ has been passing by with 1 to 2 posts a day, and everyone has overlooked that. So I will be voting for RoL today and hopefully someone shoots GGQ tonight.

##Vote: RebirthOfLegend

On June 25 2011 05:20 sinani206 wrote:
I comes after H, I think. I'm quite safe (last).
DeMorcerf seems pretty scummy anyway, I guess.

On June 25 2011 10:06 sinani206 wrote:
RoL
I'm not sure about him at all.

He attacked Kenpachi, Syllogism, and youngminii, who all flipped Townie.
However, he defended opz and hiro protagonist, who both flipped Mad Hatter.

His posting has seemed scummy is places, but in others it seems he is a misguided townie. However, Mataza attacked him for being Mafia because of the whole PM circle thing.

-3 for attacking 3 Townies
+2 for defending 2 Mad Hatters
-2 for early scummy/trolling play
+4 for good analysis lategame
-2 because of the PM circle thing

+6-7=-1

Slightly scummy, but not enough for a lynch today.


(hey! im a math person, okay?)

On June 18 2011 15:54 DeMorcerf wrote:
@aidnai and wiggles:
[removedspoiler]
@aidnai With my inexperience, I'm not going to claim to know anyone is definitively mafia -- I will post to say what strikes me as particularly suspicious or strange. (I'll post my opinion on hiro after I sleep.)

wiggles and someone else pointed a finger at GGQ on d1, I don't see it yet; he seems to be playing similar to game I played with him before where he was town.
@wiggles, I don't think I was brought as a candidate for lynching except by sandroba, who then retracted saying he had misread my post. Either way, I understand why you'd be bothered by my lack of contribution; it's not intentional.[spoilerend]
On grassg and jacinto:
+ Show Spoiler +
FudgeMunkey and RoL had an extensive exchange at the start where Fudge told people not to mason RoL (or mason in general til later in the game). Then: + Show Spoiler + Then the "KP" posts, (I thought it was pretty evident that in the context KP meant kenpachi), so either Fudge is scum and saw an opportunity to get a free falsely-"helpful" post in by answering a question that wasn't actually what was asked, or he completely was not reading before posting which is a really bad decision. I can understand why he apologized, but it was scummy in the sense that the 3 long quotes were totally unnecessary to making his edit other than distraction. What bothers me the most about FudgeM is "To be completely honest I voted for Sinani because I hadn't had time to read all the posts, so yes i was 'stealth voting'". Why would a town cast a vote for (at the time) a major lynch candidate without fully reading up first; that's horrible! Should we read this as, a scum who knows sinani is town (not that I'm sure sinani is town or not), or was told by his accomplices to cast this vote, even though he hasn't had time to actually read the thread?

On June 25 2011 13:39 FudgeMunkey wrote:


Just look at this guy he has just as many posts as me and just as/ more useless.

On June 25 2011 15:46 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Sorry I was away from my computer all day. It's night now, and I'm going to bed soon, but I'm going to post a quick analysis and place my vote for now.

Sinani206:

Most of his posts are useless one-liners, or filled with inanity, so I'm going to avoid most of those.

His general posting activity has been as follows:

Decently active day 1, prompted partially by being called scummy and a small bandwagon being formed.

Less active day 2, with his activity declining as time went on.

Complete lurker from then on out, he's picked up a bit recently, but again, it's been mostly useless spam.

Reasons I think he's scummy:



Telling people not to post N0, after N0 is already over. An attempt to chastise town while simultaneously making himself look like a voice of reason. Useless advice at that point, and it only came out after being called on for not posting for the first 24 hours of the game.

He then continued day 1, by continuously calling for scum hunting to be done while pointing fingers at various veterans without providing any semblance of an analysis himself. I called him out on it, and after that he went pretty quiet, not commenting on anything I said and completely sidestepping the issue. This is around where he began his subsequent posting behaviour of very short (often one-line) posts.



Votes for Node, instead of either Syllogism or Hiro, or even any other player with any semblance of an analysis against them. This is the same as his voting habits day 1, voting for Kenpachi instead of any other candidate, and then only because Kenpachi's posting was bad (lol). It looks like someone afraid to commit to an opinion, so instead taking an easy road out. Doesn't want to be held accountable for whatever the lynch target flips.



This was from the last day. I've already made a post, saying why I think it's scummy, but I'll reiterate a little. Basically, this shows that he's willing to jump on the bandwagon of a possible townie, without any reason behind it. The entire post just looks like an excuse to jump on the RoL wagon, and shows that he hadn't even been paying close attention to the thread.



This post might be meant to be joking, but it still looks scummy to me. Of all the lurkers, he thinks he won't be focused on, and instead just pushes for the one the bandwagon looks like it will be on.



Another example, of a bad post with bad reasoning. How he determines RoL's alignment, isn't very good, and is in fact useless for gaining any information on Sinani himself.It's a post meant to make him look like he's contributing while really adding no new information to the thread.

So conclusion:

-Posts are mostly useless
-Begins day 1 calling for scum hunting (while doing none himself) and chastising town to look like he's contributing while he's not.
-When called out on the hypocrisy of his actions, he avoids talking about it, and instead disappears.
-He's afraid to commit to an opinion the first two days, instead opting for voting someone not likely to be lynched, thus denying any information we might have gotten from his opinions.
-The next two days he show a great willingness to jump on bandwagons with little or bad reasoning.
-Posts with little content that don't show his own thoughts while trying to look like he is providing new content.
-Avoids responding to any pressure.

Probable Scum

Basically, he looks like a newbie scum who's afraid to show commitment to an opinion/stance and is too afraid to respond to pressure for fear of showing his true colours. He either takes an easy way out where it's hard to get information about him, or jumps on whatever looks like the easiest bandwagon with bad reasoning.

##Vote: Sinani206

That's where my vote's going for now, until I look at more people and see if someone looks scummier. I'd like to see an actual case on some of the other lurkers, instead of just calling them out and randomly voting amongst them.

Mataza's town, I think RoL is town, have to look at most other people.

Good night.

On June 26 2011 05:29 GGQ wrote:




Just sayin...

On June 26 2011 07:23 sinani206 wrote:
Well, as everyone seems to be voting for RoL anyway, I might as well, because he seems relatively scummy.
##Vote: RebirthOfLegend

On June 26 2011 07:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Unless you think RoL is scum, don't vote for him. A mislynch is death at this point, and that's why I voted for Sinani. I'm more convinced he's likely to be scum than RoL who I'm still shaky on but think is town.

@GGQ

I've already given my justification for RoL being town or Mataza's "trap" not being strong enough early last day cycle. Just look at his analysis and how he's trying to scum hunt. I might be wrong, but mafia aren't normally that convinced that they're right.

Look at my case on RoL above, does that address any of your reservations about voting for RoL?

I'd also like you to actually respond to my analysis instead of just shrugging it off. I don't even know what you're talking about with Sinani having the balls to post. Of the lurkers, it only looks like shraft is actually saying anything this cycle, unless posting images and one liners counts as contributing.

shraft has been posting a lot of garbage, he gets points for at least trying, but not many. sinani made an actual analysis and a decent post, which you immediately tore apart which discourages further contributions from the lurkers



Once again hopping on the easy bandwagon. My vote stands.