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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-29 17:56:15
May 29 2011 16:05 GMT
#65
Sign me up!!!!
/in
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 05 2011 03:55 GMT
#151
Woot. Can't wait for action to begin :D.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 05 2011 19:12 GMT
#277
Im not inactive, I just dont feel like anybody can accuse this early.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 05 2011 19:21 GMT
#282
Yea true, I stupidly joined the bandwagon to lynch freeloader from his posts.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 06 2011 00:02 GMT
#322
On June 06 2011 08:42 omgCRAZY wrote:
As the day goes on we will separate the lurkers from the inactives and that is when we will be able to start to piece together how everyone is playing. I am more interested in the people NOT talking than all of the people pointing fingers right now.


Says the person with only 1 post so far?
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 06 2011 00:10 GMT
#325
Oh, sorry, only checked back a couple pages.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 06 2011 20:08 GMT
#523
I'm pretty sure gtsrs is scum. He is keep accusing people with little info and keep saying he will risk his life, even though he would be scrambling to save himself if he was up to be lynched.
Therefore, I vote gtsrs.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 01:43 GMT
#732
On June 08 2011 07:47 gtrsrs wrote:
okay i have like 11 pages to read, it's probably all fluff, but i will be back to post more FoS's in a bit

my sights are still set on iGrok but i think grush57 or w/e his name is was looking pretty solid before i left for the night last night too


What do you mean by solid exactly?
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 15:58 GMT
#804
Alright, I'm going to say that amazingxcd is scum, for he is not responding to any accusations and lynched a medic and had no clear evidence that rookie was scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 17:01 GMT
#814
On June 09 2011 01:02 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 00:58 grush57 wrote:
Alright, I'm going to say that amazingxcd is scum, for he is not responding to any accusations and lynched a medic and had no clear evidence that rookie was scum.

This is an amazing case,I can't agree more!
Not. You're a terrible poster and horrible scum. You haven't made any case against him Yourself. You're just active lurking and joining on any potential bandwagon. There was clear evidence on rookie44:blue fishing,though it can go either way(confused blue or scum). People who backed off and defended rookie44 hardcore are most likely scum. Treadmill is scum. iGrok is highly likely the GF.


Fine, Ill just lurk like the other 30 people and jump on bandwagons like the other 30 people, otherwise every time I try to say something everybody else tries to jump on me.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 20:18 GMT
#858
Alright guys, I'm sorry for my previous posts and I'll try to be a little bit analytical now(or however you spell it). I was just frusturated of everybody jumping on every little thing of my posts.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 20:27 GMT
#862
On June 09 2011 05:20 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 05:18 grush57 wrote:
Alright guys, I'm sorry for my previous posts and I'll try to be a little bit analytical now(or however you spell it). I was just frusturated of everybody jumping on every little thing of my posts.

Wanna be friends?


Sure :D
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 20:35 GMT
#865
So, the people on the freeloader bandwagon even right before the lynching were cherubael, benjef, teamsolid and blackbone. The only one that was non lurking was cherubael, and only in the very beginning. Like we all know, mafia tends to be quiet and try to all go on a bandwagon to lynch a random townie(assuming he was).

So, those are some of my guesses, but not necissarily saying that they are or aren't scum.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:43 GMT
#873
On June 09 2011 06:26 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 05:35 grush57 wrote:
So, the people on the freeloader bandwagon even right before the lynching were cherubael, benjef, teamsolid and blackbone. The only one that was non lurking was cherubael, and only in the very beginning. Like we all know, mafia tends to be quiet and try to all go on a bandwagon to lynch a random townie(assuming he was).

So, those are some of my guesses, but not necissarily saying that they are or aren't scum.

The bandwagon at that time I voted freeloader (and posted why I did) was rookie. If bandwagoning means being one of the few people not wanting to lynch the doctor, I think it's a pretty good thing to do.


Yea, but you could also be bandwagoning another blue.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 21:55 GMT
#875
On June 09 2011 06:40 supersoft wrote:
I going to vote for iGrok now. I believe he's scum. For several reasons.


First reason:
I thought about who might be the person who leads the mafia - whether he's also GF or not doesn't matter for me right now.

To my mind came 3 persons who dominated the scene at the first day:

Kurumi, Jackal and iGrok.

Now to the differences between these three players:

Kurumi is very aggressive and gets into everyones face every time he posts something. He was against the freeloaderlynch and sceptical about the rookielynch. But he proposed several alternativelynches.

Jackal was also against the freeloaderlynch, and he proposed to lynch rookie instead. No good move if you are GF/mafia if you know that freeloader also is townie... Why should you draw votes from a townie to another townie... That's just stupid...

iGrok just posted some informations etc. and he asked for a DT-check on Kurumi.

___________________________

iGrok was the most passive player out of the three. Of course he was! as scum he knew exactly that rookie and freeloader were innocent, so he could easily sit back and watch the town lynch each other. He just hadn't do anything. In fact it would have been stupid to really push for a Kurumilynch. He just tried to make him look suspicious, to draw attention from himself: Of course a DT check on Kurumi would be negative. But no problem, iGrok still could say that Kurumi is the GF.

Second reason

This shit convinced me
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 08 2011 13:03 GGQ wrote:
GGQ's big post of epicness in case he dies tonight (which I've just realised I dont have enough time to make as long as I want Trust me that it's smart and good:

No one undertook the exercise I set of looking at who defended and attacked lafali and why. I'm very disappointed, guys. You all get 0/2 on your homework for today. The veteran players are all going to be dead before this game is nearly over, and you guys need to practice working on how to actually find scum, not just accuse people based on neutral tells. Keep your heads up, don't get discouraged. Look at contradictions in talk and behavior. Look at people who are skating by with posts that just repeat previous content. These are the scummy players.

The point was to lead you to Kurumi and iGrok above everyone else. Kurumi attacks lafali for his bandwagon vote bringing nothing new to the table on freeloader. There was absolutely no reason for him to throw scum on lafali so early in the game if he's mafia. Plus his aggressiveness and balls-out attitude are more inline with a green than anything else. Kurumi is most likely town.

iGrok defends lafali as probably newb town. He's the only one who defends lafali straight out, but Vain, aprudds, monsterDrakar, and Senj also soft-defend him. I'm not saying they are all scum, but it's a great place to look for scum (dts take note! vigis save your shots). At this point in time I think iGrok is almost certainly the godfather of the mafia team (it could be jackal as well but his behavior doesn't fit the role as well, and seems more in line with the town play I've seen from him). iGrok defends lafali after Kurumi calls him out and votes for him, while before this accusation he posted that everyone who had voted so far ( which included lafali) should be under suspicion. Contradiction. iGrok has also been working to get into a town-leadership and thread-presence position all game, something the godfather always tries to do. iGrok also got way too defensive after being attacked and accused.

Other suspicious people to me: Vain, partly for defending lafali, partly for advocating the lynch on freeloader for 'information' blehhhhh I already posted about that, and partly because iGrok listed him as a skilled vet with him, me and jackal when I think he's quite new and I havent seen anything particularly good from him. iGrok probably wanted another mafia on that list, though.

Of course jimbooo whom I voted Day 1, for reasons already stated by multiple players.

Others are monsterDrakar and Senj. xkcd has decreased on my scum meter lately but isn't totally clear.



So, he is the most passive, which could also mean he is a blue and then later in another post, you try to get other people to bandwagon with You. Not saying whether iGrok is mafia or town/blue, but u do have good analysis of those players. Inb4 grush57 is trying to defend iGrok, he is scum!
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 08 2011 22:20 GMT
#878
Yea, I don't really think he would be blue either.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 09 2011 04:23 GMT
#917
Man, you can write a huge analysis and still have the logic to lynch a medic. You sir, are one of a kind.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 09 2011 04:26 GMT
#918
Seriously though, very very long and nice analysis.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 09 2011 20:32 GMT
#978
On June 10 2011 05:12 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:05 blackone wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:47 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:44 blackone wrote:
##Vote: amazingxkcd

You gotta go far,kid.
Not.
Guess one bullet between Your puny little coward eyes will teach You something?

I'd love to answer you, but I'm not exactly sure what you're accusing me of. Or what I need to be teached.

Joining on bandwagon without explanation,Puny Rat.

You didn't say that to the people who joined on the iGrok bandwagon without explanation.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 09 2011 21:34 GMT
#990
On June 10 2011 05:58 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:02 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:50 supersoft wrote:
haha, since i believe that both iGrok and amazinxdc are scum, it'll be super interesting to see who voted last ;-)

Might be me. I haven't convinced myself that either are town or either are scum. I'm leaning more towards Jimboo but I haven't made up my mind there either.


Since you were terribly wrong with you last accusation, that's ok. But let me tell you, if iGrok is innocent, you will probably be the next potential GF.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:32 grush57 wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:12 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:05 blackone wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:47 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 04:44 blackone wrote:
##Vote: amazingxkcd

You gotta go far,kid.
Not.
Guess one bullet between Your puny little coward eyes will teach You something?

I'd love to answer you, but I'm not exactly sure what you're accusing me of. Or what I need to be teached.

Joining on bandwagon without explanation,Puny Rat.

You didn't say that to the people who joined on the iGrok bandwagon without explanation.


What's the goal of your post? seriously, are you feared that you could be the next? Why does it bother you, if Kurumi pressures ppl that don't deliver an explanation for their votes?

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 05:40 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:29 Drazerk wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:23 Kurumi wrote:
On June 10 2011 05:21 blackone wrote:
I have nothing new to contribute to the accusations against amazingxkcd and I don't see the need for making a post with "hey guys, just so you know, gonna vote amazingxkcd now".

Thanks,I won't even regret shooting Your puny scum face.


Both players have pretty evidence leading to believe they are both scum iGrok may be a higher priority for some but i don't see why you want to jump down this guys throat for picking one of the two Scum

Because we can't allow scum to blend in any bandwagon. It is really easy to bus and take credit for it "I was on the right side of the lynch". Everyone suspicious who jumps on bandwagon needs to get called out and pressured.


exactly. Scum wants to bandwagon quietly, when it's already too late to shift the process.


Just stating what happened, not pressured or feared at all, just sayin something.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 10 2011 04:06 GMT
#1053
On June 10 2011 13:02 teamsolid wrote:
Just as I thought... that part about Kurumi "not needing to defend himself" was clearly his way of trying to tell us he did a DT on him. Either lots of people don't use their brains when thinking about why a mafia would ever post that much analysis, or there's a couple of mafias in here.


Or, he accused jackal because he did a check on him, but that also makes sense too.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 10 2011 04:23 GMT
#1061
On June 10 2011 13:21 CjrNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 13:16 Pyo wrote:
On June 10 2011 13:02 teamsolid wrote:
Just as I thought... that part about Kurumi "not needing to defend himself" was clearly his way of trying to tell us he did a DT on him. Either lots of people don't use their brains when thinking about why a mafia would ever post that much analysis, or there's a couple of mafias in here.


wow, we kind of suck - two blue lynches... I totally thought he was mafia or I would have pushed harder for iGrok. I guess I'll have to go through huge ass post more seriously. Who do you think he DT checked? At this point I'll guess that he checked jackal and got mafia (although jackal was a likely framer target), so it's still kind of hard to judge.


I doubt he checked Jackal. If jackal is godfather like xkcd claimed, he would've got a green or a blue alignment back... i'm thinking kumuri was checked, and he is town...


True, or maybe thats why he thought jackal was gf, but I doubt that.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 11 2011 16:23 GMT
#1218
On June 11 2011 22:58 Kurumi wrote:
Since grush57 did not even try defending himself I will prod him to do it even more.
##Vote grush57


It's not like I had to do something yesterday and have a life. Anyways, I'll get to that later.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 11 2011 19:24 GMT
#1233
Alright, Time to get Serious, the most suspicous people right now are me(:O), aprudds, Treadmill, and Vain.

First off, Aprudds.

Looking throughout his posts, he had no analysis, 90% of it saying nothing or saying ovbious things and restating what others said. All 1 or 2 liners, he is basically what I was doing.
Scum? Probably, not 100% sure so would be best as a dt check/vig.

Second, Treadmill.

His explanations on why he thought xcd was scum. Then, his defence and explanation about him being "pals" with iGrok and thinking xcd was scum.After that, saying gtsrs not to ask questions? And later saying only 8 mafia. Facepalming for lynching xcd. More about the wrong vote count, and then saying that xcd probably checked Kurumi,(which I think can all be agreed upon is true).
And that was all which was recent. Before, he was defending iGrok, which was all wrong and saying why he thinks xcd is scum.
Is he scum? I'm not really sure. I mean sure he was wrong about iGrok and xcd, but a lot of us made that mistake too, and atleast Treadmill provided explanations and didn't lurk like a lot of us. So, I think he is townie.(Maybe Vet)

Third, Vain.

Alright, so he is pretty much avoiding mafia. Took me forever to find his profile for post history. But, he was posting in various other threads in TL. Latest post was 1000 something and before was 600 and then 500 posts in the XL thread. The latest post was him stating what happened basically and saying Kurumi is town(which i agree with) and about jackal defending lafali(intentionally or not). Saying Jackal or iGrok have to be mafia(which was right), explained everything etc. Not a scummy post at all. Later post.. says crap, shouldn't of voted rookie, lost all medics. Other post... Agreeing with Impervious about jackal being mafia... analyzing rookie, saying he spams and is scummy, anazlyses post by post. wasn't sure about iGrok being town or mafia, and questioning Kurmi being town.
Scum? Well, he is/was avoiding the heat from everyone else, but all his posts are town like and include analysis, and it looks like they were all right. But then again, if he is scum he would know exactly who would be town/mafia. Would probably good for a DT check.

Me?

Well, all my posts have been 1-2 liner posts that say absolutely nothing and are verry scummish, especially for not explaining my votes, and contradicting myself. And yes gtsrs, I am now scrambling to save myself, just like anyone else would. First time for an actual towny post, but could be result of my noobiness. Sorry for my posts before, and I'll try to act my role from now on. The choice is up to you if you think I'm town based on this post and my posts or if I'm scum trying to save myself. I hope this satisfies all of you who wanted me to post something that contributes, and I hope you make the right choice of killing de scummz.

Man, I feel accomplished writing all this(lol) but I hope this is good enough, because It doesn't feel up to par to the rest of your's.

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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 11 2011 19:45 GMT
#1234
When i ment Vain is avoiding mafia i meant this mafia forum btw.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:06 GMT
#1238
On June 12 2011 05:00 Kurumi wrote:
Grush57,why do You think Treadmill is a vet? I understand that You can say "I think X is blue" but why so certain he is probably vet? Why weren't You acting like Your role said so before? Disinterest? You are trying and I do see it, I am pretty much happy. The thing is: You need to prove You're worse lynch candidate than Vain or someone else, You've made small step towards not getting lynched, but the thing You say is basically "wait for blues". We can't wait though,everyday we need to lynch. Also Town can't rely on blues. The analysis,prodding lurkers is what gets us winning.


Well, I have a feeling he is blue(I ovbiously could be wrong). The medics are dead, i highly doubt he is either vig or dt(grabs to much attention, unless he is like xcd), so i'm just assuming vet.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:07 GMT
#1239
Lol, just had my 100th post. :D
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 11 2011 20:19 GMT
#1241
Well theres 8 mafia 8 blues(I think) would make sense 2 of each. Now that I think about it, it is stupid I said that. No reason, just gut feeling, something stupid to rely on.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 12 2011 01:27 GMT
#1254
On June 12 2011 08:36 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 08:31 aprudds wrote:
On June 12 2011 08:01 Kurumi wrote:
On June 12 2011 07:46 aprudds wrote:
I have no intention on filling it with 5 posts in a row -_-.

Since You were here(or are) why You didn't post anything helpful?
People,what do You think about my Plan?
The Plan

Your plan isn't really a plan, but more of a set of guidelines that is mostly common sense in the first place. There isn't much to say other then yes it's reasonable.

As for not posting anything helpful, I look at the facts and analysis, make my judgments, point out faulty logic, and post my thoughts. I am open to any suggestions and criticisms but you will need to be more specific then "be more useful."

Personally I don't find your posting style to be very constructive; it clutters up the thread leading to people not wanting to read or listen to you. You need to work on clarity and conciseness within your posts. That being said there has been an improvement in your posting quality which I thank you for.



lol, you and grush, you two are so obviously scum.
Now you try to be serious and talk something smart etc. - Acting as if everything is normal and giving some nice advices isn't enough. Neither one of you even tryed to convince us, that someone other than you is guilty.


Coming from someone who has just agreed with another's analysises, always stating the ovbious, and always quoting someone's analysis and then saying that u agree and go vote for them. Sounds scummy for yourself, and now ur calling people scum for doing analysis. I'm sorry for being indirect, but ok aprudds is definetly mafia by the way he is posting, and Vain and Treadmill are innocent. Happy?
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 13 2011 00:18 GMT
#1295
I would like to inform you all, that Vain is definetly Town by the way he is acting, voting, and playing.
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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
June 13 2011 01:55 GMT
#1307
On June 13 2011 10:19 Alderan wrote:
It's just one of those situations where I can keep posting on my iPhone, but I'm not going to be able to get to a computer and really get down to business for a couple hours, in which case some in depth analysis wouldn't be too beneficial for another 24 hours.


Translation: Excuse for not lynching today and then going and killing the best townies at night.
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