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Kurumi
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On June 06 2011 03:29 Jackal58 wrote: Insane as in crazy. Not good at all. Tunneling is when you pick one player and call him/her scum for the entire game. Kurumi has taken it to an entirely new level. Sorry but Palmar and RedFF are better at tunneling everyone than me >:C | ||
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On June 06 2011 04:02 Lafali wrote: I'm new to mafia forum games like this and mostly used to smaller and faster-paced ones where taking a risk on a mislynch is pretty common as long as the game is not mislynch-lose. The subsequent posts from treadmill seemed fishy and people started to vote for him and at that point he was the only one looking suspicious to me. However, after reading more into the thread it seemed like a bad idea to vote so early, and it would be better to wait for any tells, and then on day two, cop reports. Treadmill is suspicious to You? You both are doing the same thing. Also thanks for excuse,I enjoy eating them. Because they're yummy. Why would DT report on Day 2? It is an easy target for Mafia,even when med protected they can just stack on him. Why are You spreading bad ideas? | ||
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Kurumi
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On June 06 2011 05:33 supersoft wrote: this list doesn't tell anything about the people on the list... Maybe they're just lurking like I was. You can delete me from that list btw. This post can be treated like it never happened,You know? What are Your thoughts on freeloader bandwagon? Who's Your scum suspect #1? | ||
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On June 06 2011 05:52 supersoft wrote: I don't have a scum suspect on day1. It's too early to judge anyone. It's just not reasonable to randomlynch someone in the first round, before we got to know each other a little bit. We can't no lynch. There needs to be a lynch every Day. | ||
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 also I will update my vote-list and maybe get something from it. | ||
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On June 06 2011 23:28 Xedat wrote: I also want to stress that I am pretty sure that freeloader is town and that we should lynch someone else. lynching freeloader won't help us. I don't think that any of the people currently high in the vote are obvious scum, but freeloader is very certainly not scum. As for now,freeloader does not look a scum. Though we can't clear anyone on Day 1. I strongly believe if he is Mafia,he will slip later and turn our Green River into Red Marsh. | ||
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On June 06 2011 23:48 Benjef wrote: Hm, I'm starting to fall off of this Freeloader band wagon. But hes only had the one post to try and protect himself? And I still don't see the point of him asking the question if he didn't apply to him. And besides Kurumi why are you protecting him so much? Because it's terrible lynch based on "he asked question townie would never ask" evidence. His lynch will give no info and there are more scummy people here to lynch. | ||
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On June 06 2011 23:53 Jackal58 wrote: Who? I'm not calling Freeloader scum I'm asking you who in your opinion is scummier? Are You smurfing? @_@ I responded to Benjef and got Jackal's response? | ||
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Kurumi
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People who voted on freeloader625 and not switched(ever): cherubael teamsolid grush57 People who voted on freeloader625 then swtiched: Treadmill(vote->unvote->vote again) Drazerk -> Treadmill Jimboo -> unvote Lafali -> unvote People who switched on freeloader625: Benjef Treadmill -> freeloader I will try to dig why they have voted on freeloader/changed their votes/dropped the case. The scummiest guy? As for now,it would be Lafali;gtrsrs case is the thing I will get into in a quick moment,because there's a bit of content to analysis,but mostly when "weaker' player attacks "stronger" player it is overeager Townie versus Townie. | ||
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On June 07 2011 00:03 Jackal58 wrote: No answer Kurumi? Who in your opinion is scummier than freeloader? That's your assertion not mine. Unable or unwilling to answer because you know the answer? I feel confused because I don't what I am exactly supposed to answer here,I pointed out that Lafali is my #1 scummiest read right now,but I need to look into gtrsrs' case. Please,make the question easier because I totally don't get it @_@ | ||
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On June 07 2011 00:09 iGrok wrote: Hey Xedat, can you add non-voters to your list please? Munk-E Blackone amazingxkcd TheKK TranceStorm Sprungjeezy freeloader625 TheAwesomeAll rookie44 Date_Reaper CjrNinja Senj DeMorcerf Vain Jackal58 Clicker iGrok tdAdonis aprudds GGQ | ||
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The thing that is seen from the very beginning is that Treadmill's post lacks colours,while Crjninja takes stance about some people and calls them town or scum. Treadmill's expressions about people are really vague:
He does not understand cherubael's case,but does nothing to defend/talk about it at all. He looks like he has strong believing on grush57,but does make any move to prove us that he indeed slipped Mafia. There are more things about his "Day 1 thoughts" but those are the most interesting ones. He also prods lurkers again,like it wasn't done before,but does not vote on them,just notices. After 30 minutes,he drops his "strongest case" versus grush57 and comes back to freeloader(he did not even mention him in his "first" post,even when he was his MAIN suspect a while ago!) A short brief why I think Treadmill is Scum:
He is afraid to take stances and get linked to someone Chainsaw defends himself with attacking Lafali,Lafali chainsaw defends himself with attacking Treadmill,when they're both after same things(we can afford mislynching,it is not too bad to mislynch a couple of times just for sake of it,freeloader's case is strong as hell) His posts are full of fluff,keep in mind that his "Day 1 Thoughts" came after CrjNinja ASKS about them. + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2011 12:47 Treadmill wrote: One really big point - if you're going to quote a really long post it'd be great if you could put it in spoiler tags (just a formatting issue but helps to clean up the page a fair bit). Meaning you, iGrok. @CjrNinja Can you confirm that the role PM for mafia members spells out that mafia can communicate by PM? If this is true than obviously mafia wouldn't post that question and I'll change my vote from freeloader. Otherwise, though, he seems even more scummy to me now. I didn't vote for him cause he asked a silly question, it was how he replied to scrutiny. Since then, he hasn't posted in the thread at all. And I can confirm that he's been on TL - check his post history, he's posted a whole bunch in today's MLG live report. Either he's scum and waiting for suspicion to die down or he's town and has given up and resigned himself to getting lynched. Yeah,freeloader is not posting here. Something we didn't notice yet. Oh,also that PM derailing bullshit coming through couple of pages,jeez. + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2011 13:05 Treadmill wrote: + Show Spoiler + On June 06 2011 12:54 CjrNinja wrote: I can't confirm what the actual role PM said for mafia members. But looking back through this thread I did find: So it's already been addressed during the signup stage. Freeloader was probably just lazy and didn't read through the entire thread. Hrrrm. That doesn't stop him from being lazy mafia. If mafia members received the info about being allowed to PM in their role PM, then only town wouldn't definitely know that and so only a town would ask. BUT if the information is not explicit in the role PMs, then town and mafia could equally easily not know (and not read fully the OP) and so someone asking could still be either. Does that make sense? I guess the only people who'd know for certain which it is would be the mafia (who won't show us their role PM to prove it) and the mods (who won't say cause it'd affect the game). Doesn't escape the fact that freeloader, who has been in the lead to be lynched, has been online without posting here at all. Which makes me suspicious. Some theories about Freeloader being scum but being too lazy to play with his scumbuddies,yeah yeah,he's really good player and he plays one-man army. Point about him avoiding the thread is valid,but it looks that freeloader is not afraid of dying. | ||
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Kurumi
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On June 07 2011 00:28 Sprungjeezy wrote: I have been getting a scum vibe from Kurumi and I really think we need to get some "good" discussion going. Defends freeloader - easy townie rep without missing out on possible lycnh (there was no way this would go through regardless) + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2011 18:03 Kurumi wrote: Freeloader tries to justify SC2 Mafia as real Mafia experience,I'd go with noobtown,yeah. Now lets sniff for potential bandwagoners... Treadmill says to keep watching freeloader and says something stupid and gets a vote from Kurumi in hopes of a counterbandwagon + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2011 18:07 Kurumi wrote: What? Bad lynches are good lynches? Are You a stupid Rat or You're a Noobtown? Lynch is the most IMPORTANT tool town gets. ##vote Treadmill *Kurumi votes Treadmill 18:07] then 10 mins later changes to Lafali 18:17 posts this between the 2* + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2011 18:11 Kurumi wrote: My God,so many Rats running between my legs! No,we can't lynch the guy because of one thing. We should be suspicious WHY the bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence. It is not mylo,but we must use lynch to it's best. Notice the "bandwagon formed so FAST on such shitty evidence". Irony in the reason for changing his vote (even more so for the reasoning for his first vote). Here he + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2011 18:23 Kurumi wrote: Because I draw discussion from terrible freeloader bandwagon? I don't throw accusations out,they've slipped already. Treadmill and Lafali both advocate mislynches and not thinking before lynching. They hopped on bandwagon and they will. He is angry that Treadmill and Lafali vote for lynching so easily, but he himself has voted several times. I go on to post that he has been reading too far into things, he says it is what a good townie does. And says the Scum want tonwies to jump on band wagons. But I feel that it is incredibly distracting and scummy to throw around votes and accusations without any solid discussion. Unless others agree with me I'm not even going to bother to vote just yet. + Show Spoiler + On June 05 2011 18:31 Kurumi wrote: No. Scum wants Town to mislynch. Scum wants Town not to think about other suspects. Scum wants to make Town jump on one bandwagon and deny EVERY discussion about anything else. They are doing that,not only but they're advocating that as a good thing. Am I scum who needs to get lynched asap or am I just a suspect? Take a stance before accusing me. Also always glad to see people defending Lafali and Treadmill,because we will have easy red lynches after they flip red. Also how defending freeloader is free townie rep? Is there something I don't know? Oh,You're scum saying that Freeloader is town? Thanks bro,is Freeloader cleared now? I didn't hope for counterbandwagon,where is anything indicating that? I wanted Treadmill to step up his posting and tell me why he thinks random lynches based on bad evidence are good. Keep in mind,that's my evidence : Treadmill and Lafali say that Freeloader lynch is good,while it is based on BAD evidence,only scum wants to get easy lynch off. How is this shitty evidence in Your opinion? A bandwagon storming from the first hour of the day because someone asked a question is SUSPICIOUS and won't lead into anything helpful. Your ending is weird. "I won't go for Kurumi's case myself" Does that mean You're saying Your evidence on me is bad? Thanks,I probably shouldn't even make this post. | ||
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Good that we have more time. | ||
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Tell me why,such statement brings nothing into discussion. While iGrok might be waiting for something,You still need to contribute,Benjef. | ||
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