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Meapak_Ziphh
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Pfffft you can't blame me, I started that game when there were already a thousand posts in the thread, I always felt 1 step behind. | ||
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On May 31 2011 02:53 Varpulis wrote: d) day 1 lynch You're a cold cold person Varpulis... I'm glad you're my cohost :D | ||
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Ok, we have one retarded roleclaim already. We have two people with posting restrictions, we have lists lists and yet more lists and we have the beggining of a bandwagon. This town needs some help. For the roleclaim: I'm inclined to beleive his claim is true, Amber can confirm it for us if he truly uses it. However just because we know his role doesn't mean he's clear. It would have been way better to not claim and just come out after the night phase just so you know red. Posting restrictions: Amber's is actually pretty detrimental to the town. We've already had enough pages talking about it and I don't think we need anymore. If red's role truly does work then Amber will be able to talk then but until that point I think we should stop worry about Amber. We know what yes and no mean so we can ask him questions and we know when he's not happy with someone. As far as I'm concerned that's enough for now. Now onto Palmar. I'd highly suggest people stop fist pounding him. The fact that he's got people to do it already is really bad imo, come on town, where is your suspiciousness. Palmar apparently has to post bro with every post which isn't a problem but we don't know the affect of responding to a fist pound so until we know what it does I think we should stop responding. On lists: I have no idea what these lists are. If they're for dts that's just asking for a framer role. If they're for medics that's asking for the mafia to hit somewhere else. People did this in PYPI and guess what, mafia lynched a pretty obvious townie anyway. Speaking of lynches I'm a little concerned with the group of people who are voting Varpulis. I haven't played a game with him so if this is a meta vote I'd love an explanation. Otherwise I haven't seen him do anything overtly scummy. I'm personally going to wait a bit before placing a vote. I have some suspects but I'm going to see how they act a little longer + read the thread again before persuing them. Town really needs to calm down and stop spamming. For an example of good activity and fairly good posting look at the later half of PYPI. People should be active (obviously) and contribute (obviously) but this level of activity is actually detrimental to the town as good posts or scumtells can get lost in the general mayhem. | ||
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oh and @bum, spam definetly doesn not=good, don't know why you would even say that. | ||
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On May 31 2011 05:47 Palmar wrote: Mig bro, Varp backed off the plan man, gotta cut a bro a slack. Hey Palmar remember this post? What made you change your mind about "cutting slack"? | ||
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On May 31 2011 09:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Can we please stop talking about amber's role and what amber can or cannot say. We have 26 pages after about 12 hours. I think that's more than enough to start scumhunting. I'm gonna start rereading the thread. Since you can't talk Amber I think you should as well. Amber can qoute things so here's something useful for him to do that doesn't involve talking, just qoute stuff you find suspicious. oh and @bum, spam definetly doesn not=good, don't know why you would even say that. Sorry bum, disregard the @ part, misread your post. Anyway just read the thread for the second time. I'm majorly unconvinced about the Varpulis vote. The arguments against him can be made about half the players in this game. There may be validity to these arguments but at this point I don't think we should be locking into a lynch. Anyway I'd like to ask Bum and BC what they plan to do with these Zodiac lists. Also, FoS on Mataza, Redff, and hiro protagonist. | ||
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On May 31 2011 10:40 GMarshal wrote: For what reason? Names and lists without reasons are worthless. What did they do to merit a FoS that say, Palmar has not? They were merely gut reads and I wanted to gauge reactions. Needless to say I know that names and lists are worthless, I'm just testing the waters with people I haven't played with before. | ||
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On May 31 2011 11:31 redFF wrote: Because i held down shift for a second too long when capitalising his name? Ok fair enough, with all the weird shit going on I had to ask. Anyway what do we think about condensing our suspects down to maybe five people and really start hammering them. We've got a lot of stuff so if we focus our efforts we should be able to net a scum or two. | ||
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I was just about to agree with this but then I decided to read back through Chaos's posts and came to a different conclusion. I won't do a PBPA unless someone asks but a brief summary would be this. He attacks redff with a fairly well thought out post and adds in a meta point from UG. He doesn't spend a lot of time discussing amber and is pretty concise when he does. In short he's been contributing and helpful. The only reason you could be attacking him is if you have a problem with him attacking redff (which I think is your point, but at this time it just comes down to who you have more of a gut read on and for me I'm more inclined to call Chaos town then red). | ||
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On May 31 2011 12:06 redFF wrote: There are a ton of people lurking just like karshe so that is kind of pointless too. I think we should have a list of lurkers as well. Not to lynch them right now, we'll be lynching for scummy behavior rather than activity, but we should have the list so if people stay inactive over the course of several days we can then reasses and pressure them as needed. | ||
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On May 31 2011 06:19 Tackster wrote: Hey guys I'm up to date!! This looks likes it's going to be so unpredictable it takes weeks to come crashing down Remember Insane 2? Think we can hit 50 pages by night 1?Anyway my 2 cents - i think revealing who we created roles for is useless. Mafia would know everyone that they created a role for and could share it in their quicktopics - we on the other hand would have no useful info to share in thread. And what's with all the Pound Fisting?? Am I the only one that finds that suspicious? Palmar wrote a command and 2 people replied - that has to be looked into... I’m glad you’re up to date, this was a loooong time ago. If you were really up to date you could have been posting this whole time and giving input and trying to find scum like a townie should. Your first paragraph is spam, your second paragraph has already been stated and your third paragraph has already been stated as well. Also regarding your third paragraph, you could be town worried about scum influence but it just as easily could be scum worried about an OP town role. Anyway this post falls under that dreaded catagory of contributing without contributing. On May 31 2011 06:27 Tackster wrote: Amber your role wouldnt happen to be scooby doo would it? Cos technically scooby could talk  This is your other post, just useless spam. Pick up your game man; I know you can play better. Right now I feel like you’d be a great lynch. You’ve never been scum on TL as far as I know so this would easily explain your odd behavior. For anyone who doubts my meta argument just look at the first and second days of insane 2 to see the real tackster. ##Vote: Tackster | ||
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On June 01 2011 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote: FoS Sinani Sinani hasn't posted...like, ANYTHING. I'm literally picking up NO scum-reads at this point, and the analysis everyone else is posting is based on meta I'm not familiar with...so I'm going to pick on an inactive until something big happens. ##Vote sinani206 Wow this is a pretty scummy post. You're picking up no scum reads because all the analysis is based on meta? Read through the thread again, that is simply not true. Rather than read through the thread and trying to draw your own conclusions though, you're simply going to vote a complete inactive and wait for "something big" to happen. Veeery bad town play my friend. | ||
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On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Okay, I've got a survey. 1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment? 2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia? 3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it? 4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone? 5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most? 6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now? 7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST? If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions. 1) thread derailment, bad townies are active lurkers, scum are derailers 2) Dropbear or node 3) absolutely not 4) Node 5) GM 6) Palmar's fratiness 7) read the thread all the way through before you make your next post. I actually like this test, when I get home I'll qoute this and explain everything. | ||
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Anyway. Just read the thread again, I think tackster is scum and it's been reenforced by my read through. Tackster has been relatively inactive and there's a pretty good case against him out there. Any decent scum team would snag this, send a couple accusations his way, then just roll with the brand new bandwagon. The lynch would be a pretty smooth one with an almost unanimous vote. However what are we seeing instead, tackster is being defended and more significantly, there are alternative options for the lynch. Tackster is VERY inactive, if he's town there's almost no reason for anyone to stand up for him and it would be extremely easy for mafia to lurk their way through... but that's not what we're seeing. Regardless of how tackster flips though, we're learning a lot with this lynch. | ||
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On June 01 2011 23:35 Kurumi wrote: According to my papers,it was Sandroba who started voting on Tack. I startedthe vote on tack iirc. tnkted, part of the reason (alibeit a relatively small part) of why I think tackster is scum is because there's been so much debate about the lynch. If tackster was town, it would be in the mafia's best interest just place some votes on the first person with a decent case againt them and start a bandwagon then kick back and chill. Instead, suddenly a lynch sandroba or tnkted movement sprang up. From what I've seen (and I've read the thread a lot) tackster is waay scummier then either sandroba or tnkted. The surest way to know you're lynching a townie is if there's no discussion. This day has been the opposite. And if that's too WIFOM for you then just check tacksters posts, | ||
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On June 02 2011 00:25 Mataza wrote: I don´t like that Meapak assumes that because tackster isn´t voted on in unison he has to be scum(that´s what it boils down to). fact: tnkted got voted on before tackster, so no, he the "tnkted train" didn´t suddenly come to life, it was there beforehand. "Sandro train" was started by a fricking dog. Of these 3 I would be most ok with losing tackster, as he is the least useful. What I would prefer is lynching someone like tnkted. if he speaks the truth its essentially a no lynch to vote him. No I genuinely think he's scum, look at his posts. The fact that there is so much debate also lends itself to this in my opinion. Also GM, get on your game man, I'm actually getting suspicious of you, I can always tell when you're town but I'm not getting that feel this game. Oh and would the people who think I'm scum at least tell me why so I can address your points. | ||
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I wanna go back to the lynch real quick though, I'm convinced one of the three candidates (before the viseyes debacle) is scum. There's really no other reason why the votes should be that close. Now we all know who I think is scum (and the fact that he weasled out of the lynch only reenforces this thought). However I'll accept the possibility that I'm wrong enough to say that all the top lynch nominees would be really good dt checks tonight. Another good dt check would be prplhz. Medics would do well protecting dropbear and node. Vigis should hold their fire, we've got so much useless finger pointing going on right now it really muddied the waters for the scum to hide beneath bad town play. Real quick I wanna say I'll be gone all day tomorrow but I'll have my thoughts on the day by 11PM PST. Oh and Jackal I feel your pain, I know your play enough to say I have a fairly town read on you atm. | ||
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It makes it a crapshoot whether bum actually blocks in a pro town way. The mafia will just wait till the last second to send in their kills. It means town KP has to scrape close to the deadline as well, running the risk that it doesn't get counted (same for scum there's a team of them who can send in kills, townies are on their own so it's harder). All in all the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. | ||
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On June 02 2011 14:38 sinani206 wrote: Wait, so you're saying it's good that he can save Mafia? Yeah Not only that he blocks town KP if it's first. | ||
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I guess we're saying the same thing. | ||
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I think people need to stop fistbumping palmar unless he says he'll use his power exactly as the town tells them. In fact the same goes for all claimed vigi type roles. Vigi is an easy role for mafia to fake and we've currently got a plethora of them, chances are at least one is scum so if we hold them accountable to the town that will be great for us. Anyway these are my thoughts on how things went down, tomorrow I'll be a lot more active and I plan on looking at the dead people and the viseyes vote (still haven't had a chance to do that yet ) | ||
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lol not bum who wants us to shoot sinani, BC. | ||
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Before everone hates on me for creating such a strong scum role lemme explain my rational of a self confirming role. Basically heres what I was thinking. I know who Torte roleblocks so if I see someone get roleblocked and not claim I become suspicious. Also, if a scum dies who Torte roleblocked I know Torte is town. Conversly, if Torte is killed and flips scum, I know everyone who got roleblocked is town. Right now here's what I think we should do. Rather than having you trigger-happy morons blow Torte away let's have someone check him first. If he's red then pow pow, we just killed a scum and confirmed a shitload of townies. If he's town then we continue on as before with Tortes power affecting both scum and Town. The reason I'm hesitant about killing Torte is this, the people he's roleblocked have been pretty scummy in my eyes, plus there are people who have been roleblocked but not claimed (I think). All this says to me that Torte is town. How someone figured out he visited GM is beyond me but what I do know is that GM wasn't the only one. I know who's gonna get roleblocked tonight but I'm not gonna say, I don't feel like revealing anything more about Tortes role. Oh and @Torte, your posting restrictions only applies during the day, you're fine right now. If you don't beleive me just ask BB, I told him to make sure you knew that's how your role worked. | ||
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