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Nope, *your reaction* to me questioning the lists makes you scum.
I question the lists, you *immediately* had to devalue what I was saying by calling me scum, even if you didn't lynch me right off the bat, you couldn't allow me to focus discussion outside of the list.
The whole plan for you to win safely is to kill everyone on the list, after that happens you are almost assured to win. Its damage control, the list already fucked you over in part, so you might as well get some free townie kills out of the deal.
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On June 15 2011 05:57 redFF wrote:
If the list dies and there are not 2 scum on it then won't town just kill me and i lose????
You could squirm out of it, + by that point the game is at lylo, you need to force a single mislynch. Thats why I forced you to play your hand. If there is one mafia outside of db and you then you insta win.
Its your only bet to victory.
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On June 15 2011 06:02 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 05:59 stefftastiq wrote:Steff how much have you and GM been pming each other since he added you to his pm circle? Have you guys had a lot of pro-town discussion? Has he given a reason for inducting you? Look at the timestamp for this post and tell me how much you guys have been making use of your pm circle . We havent made any use of the circle - I just said it probably wouldnt be to nice to put me in the circle to kill a townie. Basicly because I logged on, saw I had a new Pm about been put in a circle, and the latest post in the gamethread was for him to sacrifice me! Alright GM if you said you weren't going to kill him why did you add him to the circle and not discuss anything with him through pm's? Seems a bit pointless really, wouldn't it be better to add someone you thought of as scum to the circle or someone you wanted to talk too?
I've answered every PM he's sent me, he's been pretty afk though. I intended to pressure him to see if he was scum, but current events have kept me occupied, and basically determined who the other mafia is, no PM's required.
I'm willing to discuss anything he wants to talk about, but at this point the most beneficial discussion will take place in the thread
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On June 15 2011 06:04 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 06:01 GMarshal wrote:On June 15 2011 05:57 redFF wrote:
If the list dies and there are not 2 scum on it then won't town just kill me and i lose???? You could squirm out of it, + by that point the game is at lylo, you need to force a single mislynch. Thats why I forced you to play your hand. If there is one mafia outside of db and you then you insta win. Its your only bet to victory. Alright blatant contradiction. After all you have said if you flip town I am dead lol, so me forcing a mislynch shouldn't be a huge problem.
Which was the whole point, I don't think theres a third mafia, but its possible.
And I don't doubt the town's stupidity and ability to lynch the wrong person. You can be very persuasive when necessary redFF, so you'll just go to lylo after exterminating the list and push the lynch off onto someone else. its the only way you could hope to win, really.
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On June 15 2011 06:12 Palmar wrote:
why did you introduce steff to the circle gm?
I wanted to be able to pressure him in PM land to find if he was scum.
RedFF just made that unnecessary though ^_^
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On June 15 2011 13:39 DropBear wrote:
Just finished an exam, to come back to seeing that I am the unanimous candidate thus far.
Doesn't that bother anyone? There are four possibilities and I'm the ONLY CANDIDATE? With absolutely noone arguing against it?
The only person who has actually laid a case is Marshal and his case is terrible.
steff is in no way confirmed.
redFF if you know something about Amber that we all don't you need to get it out in the open. At this late stage there is no point in hiding.
Don't worry about it, I hear redFF's reason for voting for you is "GM is scum, LYNCH DB!"
And of course no one has made a case against you but me, they have DT's! Why would they waste their time *analyzing* anything, or giving reasons for their votes? Confirmed town, remember? No need to actually think.
But if you make the mistake of thinking, or analyzing, you are mafia and should be shot. No justification for shooting you required, mind you, just *bang*
I'm sorry, did I come off a *little* bit cynical?
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On June 15 2011 21:10 redFF wrote:
Yes DB that is why GM is sacrificing him tonight while Palmar shoots GM. We have a list of 2/4 mafia and we are killing into it, the most likely mafia dying first and then going down the list.
Nope. You can't make me kill townies if I don't want to, scum. ^_^
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Also, we kill people we think are scum, not people who are on lists, just because they are on lists.
Is that such a difficult concept to grasp?
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On June 16 2011 06:32 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 06:09 GMarshal wrote:
Also, we kill people we think are scum, not people who are on lists, just because they are on lists.
Is that such a difficult concept to grasp? I think you are scum too lol, that's why you should die before steff/amber
No, you've made it pretty clear you just want to exterminate the list and ignore everything else.
Anyway, when DB flips red you get shot tonight and we win.
gg ^_^
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On June 16 2011 06:52 redFF wrote:
kk shoot GM fairly obvious, Palmar please tell me how this flip makes me scum, still no evidence there are millers.
Hi, I'm the guy who bagged two mafia and two serial killers thus far.
Are you scared, scum?
You should be.
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On June 16 2011 06:55 redFF wrote:
lololol dropbear was getting lynched anyway, please don't claim that kill. You didn't "bag" Kurumi because he claimed, nice job. Jackal was getting lynched already too. Who is the other "mafia" you bagged, surely not the one you lynched a vigi over?
I called out bum night 1.
You guys were content to let jackal scoot by with an assassin claim and bring you closer to lylo
You can *say* DB was getting lynched anyway, but I was the one who provided the analysis.
And I had Kurumi claim to me privately day 1, which later led to his in thread claim, I also personally stabbed him, so yes, I take full credit for that kill as well.
I'm 4/5 which is better than you can say.
Plus, Palmar shouldn't count, he claimed assassin ffs.
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On June 16 2011 07:03 Palmar wrote:
GM
I don't want you to use your abilities tonight
I'm shooting redFF
I'm inducting someone if you don't mind, I want to be able to chat with people.
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On June 16 2011 07:11 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 07:10 GMarshal wrote:On June 16 2011 07:03 Palmar wrote:
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I don't want you to use your abilities tonight
I'm shooting redFF I'm inducting someone if you don't mind, I want to be able to chat with people. I do mind. Please do not induct anyone into your cult.
I will be inducting Cthsazsa. I want to press him in PM's.
Why don't you want me inducing people?
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On June 16 2011 07:17 Karshe wrote:
Palmar, I hope you know what you're doing. I really don't want to lose because we got swindled by GMarshal. He's certainly capable of it (that's a compliment, GM).
By the way, where were you all of yesterday? It seems like you didn't add to the discussion at all -__-
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On June 16 2011 07:17 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2011 07:14 GMarshal wrote:On June 16 2011 07:11 Palmar wrote:On June 16 2011 07:10 GMarshal wrote:On June 16 2011 07:03 Palmar wrote:
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I don't want you to use your abilities tonight
I'm shooting redFF I'm inducting someone if you don't mind, I want to be able to chat with people. I do mind. Please do not induct anyone into your cult. I will be inducting Cthsazsa. I want to press him in PM's. Why don't you want me inducing people? Several reasons. a) you can kill people in the cult. I'm not convinced you're town, so I don't want you to have any additional powers. b) some mafia games have cults with independent win conditions (like turn half the town). I know a cult isn't a 3rd party thing, but if you're scum it could come down to the people in your cult being manipulated in some way. Maybe you can force their votes or something. c) you said we should rely on analysis, so let's keep all the information in the thread and out of PMs.
Ask redFF, he interrogated me, he should have my role, I can't actually kill anyone anymore. I only had two sacrificial knives, I used both on kurumi. I wanted to keep this secret to scare the mafia in the later game, but I guess its a moot point now.
I'm going to add Cths because I want to be able to ask certain questions about her role without the mafia hearing us on the offchance RedFF isn't the last mafia or is actually green.
Can you just trust me on this? Cths can publish any PM's where I try to influence her vote. (there won't be any, promise)
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On June 16 2011 07:21 redFF wrote:
Sorry guys, but ffs GM why didn't you just claim miller lol.
Because the correct response to someone unconfirmed claiming miller is to lynch them asap, as almost every time its mafia trying to preempt a dt check. Much like DB claim of being PGO, when he really had already exhausted that ability. Sorry, but I just couldn't do that, get myself lynched and then cost the town the game.
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You need to read the last two posts of the thread man 
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So, palmar, if you are going to shoot Csth, would you at least let me know so I can mason you instead?
Again, PM's are really powerful lategame, so I'd rather not leave my ability unused ^_^
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I'd rather you shoot Redff though, as I think he is scum, and we shoot scum here.
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On June 16 2011 08:09 Palmar wrote:
Does anyone here NOT agree with this plan:
I want people to say they agree, or amber can wiggle his tail at my post.
Tonight: Shoot Cthazha, who will death vig Karshe
Tomorrow: Lynch redFF
Next night: I shoot GMarshal
That should cover it, aside from mafia kills?
Yeah, did we forget about steff?
He is a person playing too, and could be scum, kind of important to account for.
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