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This means that we're risking a bus, but let's do it. | ||
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You won't gain much information from flipping me, you will end up with a dead vigi, and because town is angry at me at the moment, it's really damn easy to for mafia to support that anger. I will provide a list tomorrow, it's like 2am here now, so I'm going to sleep. Check the list out. | ||
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On June 06 2011 10:50 bumatlarge wrote: Yeah Im kinda confused why he didn't shoot me, he was very capable of killing me with that bullet... he could have saved you guys this lynch. I already said, I can't 2kp kill like I claimed, that was just some made up shit to get mafia hits. So I went for the second target, because I believed your claim of having a vest or something to be genuine. I also said I'd shoot you, so if there is a medic on your team, you could've gotten protected. In hindsight, I would've shot torte de lini, but well... people make mistakes. | ||
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Want me to shoot tnkted tonight Jackal? | ||
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I admitted the shot because it was my failure, but better we at least know what happened. I'm not going to say I don't mind getting lynched, because that means the town is losing out on an opportunity to lynch scum, just flipping a vigi that was easy to bandwagon. I will leave my thoughts on the players left in this game at some point during the day. Doesn't matter if I'm getting lynched or not. If I get lynched and flip green, then at least I've spoken my mind. If I don't get lynched, I will create the list of possible kill targets for the night, and I will shoot at that list. See you tomorrow | ||
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Well my only defense isn't shooting the mole. The other part of it is actually claiming the chaos13 kill. I just don't understand how anyone could think that mafia claimed a bad kill, knowing the risks involved. | ||
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I know I fucked up, but one of the easiest way to gain town credit for mafia is to go after people who fuck up. Make bad roleclaims, create bad plans, whatever. Remember to take a good long hard look at the list voting for me when and if I flip. I think it would perhaps best lists to check if we have a vote-check type detective. My vote obviously remains on Bumatlarge. I wanted him dead but because he has two lives, and I can't actually kill through that, I went searching for a new target. | ||
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On June 06 2011 17:39 Barundar wrote: @Palmar read the day post again, Mataza has a bomb on him. Should give us some good information. Torte seems a lot scummier than you Palmar, but your defense is wifom. I'd love to see you post cases instead. What do you think of the lurkers Hiro Protagonist and Karshe, possibly others I have missed? I hope at least one of our detective type roles went and checked the lurkers. Stefftastiq, Hiro Protagonist and Karshe have all flown very much under the radar. There isn't really much to go on with any of them. I can provide some meta on all of them, but being new players, with only a game or two here, it might not be that useful. I would have expected Karshe to provide more content than he has. I know he's capable of analysis but he's provided almost nothing but questions and one liners since day 2. I wasn't suspicious of him after the first daylight cycle. The point is that he's impossible to get a read on. I don't think he's worth a hit at the moment. Stefftastiq is very careful, he always plays very careful. He accused tnkted and actually apologized for making the accusation. This could of course be read as scumtell, saying how light his accusations are, but I'm leaning towards it being genuine insecurity. Hiro Protagonist plays in the background but I think I'd have to call town on him over scum. The main reason being he claimed creating Wiggles's role and told us how it worked correctly. For some reason he tried to defend Wiggles at some point during day2, but he let himself be convinced. I don't think the mafia would have been bold enough to actually try to save MrWiggles after what happened on night 1. So, of the three, Karshe is worth looking better at. He might even be worth shooting if we can't get any other information out of him, as analysing someone with this little content might be really damn hard to do. | ||
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He would confirm it as there is no reason for mafia to try and hide survival power, especially by claiming a very strong killing power. It is however great reason for town to hide it to try and drag mafia hits. tnkted would've realized this and confirmed me, which greatly reduced my suspicions of him. I tried to make my role look very strong, in order to draw fire. I think there's a post from me somewhere during night 2 or late day 2, where I ask not to be protected by medics. tnkted is by no means clear when I flip town, but confirming my role was pro-town at the moment. This doesn't change the fact that he's been lurking. | ||
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On June 06 2011 06:42 GMarshal wrote: I did. Either his vest absorbed it, or he activated trap mage and wasn't roleblocked. I'll try again tonight. Assuming he activated the trap mage, he should automatically get targeted by your sacrifice tonight. I assume you will be notified that your ability is getting redirected to him? | ||
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I would love to have a word with you. | ||
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I will, until further notice, retire my gun for tonight. I won't be shooting again unless I have a really good reason to. | ||
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On June 07 2011 03:48 Eternalmisfit wrote: In any case, here is the synopsis of my claim against Palmar. Palmar -> 0/2 hits on scum, -> 2/2 hits on DT -> Un-needed RPing on day1 to confuse/derail town about posting restrictions -> Fake role-claim either on D1 or D3 -> Most likely fake kill claim on Chaos13 as well (I believe Kurumi's claim because he claimed instantly after the Day post) -> His current role-claim of being an unlimited night-hit vigi + veteran seems so imba compared to other roles that he is near obviously fake claiming. (Other roles for comparison: BC - random target medic, Wiggles - 1 time bulletproof + 2 bullets, Torte - random target RB, Node - KP who dies if he doesn't shoot scum by 3rd night, Sandroba - role framer, Desk - random KP kill lynch/reveal killer, prplz - 1 time redirect & 1 time lynch proof, Jackal - mason who posting restriction, Amber - doggie with post restriction, Kurumi - loses his role KP block after one time save, Kita - Vote redirect, and so on) -> Deliberately did not follow town instructions of hitting Bum or Kurumi and going after Chaos13. -> It was painfully obvious that Chaos13 was DT and Mataza pretty much pointed it out for everyone. Despite it, he claimed to have not read the thread. (This from a person who quotes Mataza's every second post and calls him scum). -> Day1 vote - does not care who among tnkted, VisceraEyes, Varpulis dies and switches his votes around. On Day1, I doubt any townie is so confident about 3 scum targets (two of which were playing town). It seems like he wants to gets townie lynched. -> Due to someone's awesome role, I am quite confident that there is most likely one scum in the VisceraEyes vote-list. And no, I will not reveal how I got that information. If this much anti-town play is not scummy, I don't know what more can be scummy. ----- Also, when Palmar flips scum, he confirms at-least one more scum and potentially two more scum based on my analysis. In the rather unlikely event that he flips town, it confirms 2-3 people as town to me. The people in suspicion are redFF and Sinani but I won't make my case against them till Palmar is dead since most of the town is posting on a need-to-know basis and I will do the same. -> 1/2 hits on scum. It may have been lucky, but it's still scum. -> RPing cause I felt it'd be fun, if anyone's actually mad about that... I really don't know what I should say. -> Fake roleclaim on D1 with pro-town intentions, someone pointed it being convenient that I'm retiring my gun tonight. But if people really want me to confirm I can still shoot... I can shoot. -> Read better, Kurumi called right away that Chaos13 had been my kill. He was correct. I shot Chaos13. -> My role is kinda imba, I realize. You might wanna consider having me DT checked or whatever, but killing such a strong town role because of a mistake, seems just silly. -> Didn't follow town instructions cause I was afraid of being bussed. I said it, I'm sorry. -> I somehow missed it, and I doubt Mataza is scum. -> If you know about a vote-check list, then sure, try me. You will fail, but you can cross me off and go for someone else. And the biggest thing. What sane mafia would claim killing such a useful role? I'll say it again. I could've claimed roleblocked, I could've claimed not shooting, and I could've claimed a blocked hit or something, but instead I admit the mistake, cause that's the closest thing to help I can offer the town after failing. | ||
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On June 07 2011 04:45 Barundar wrote: Yeah might have to reconsider. Problem is Palmar isn't exactly scummy in his posing, its just his actions... Well as you say. I mean well, I just failed. I know playing the newbie card is usually considered scummy, but I'm just going to. This is my second mafia game, and I made a mistake. Just remember, if you're voting for me, you're voting a random newbie based on nothing but one mistaken night action, instead of someone who has been confirmed (by himself) to be anti-town. I just don't see how anyone that's pro-town would consider it a good trade. Let's lynch bumatlarge, I won't fail again. It would be gargantuan mistake to waste a lynch on me. | ||
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On June 07 2011 04:54 Barundar wrote: Problem is Palmar, I'm not sure I trust you to prove it, shoot more townies and play noob card, if you are mafia you put yourself into the perfect wifom position with the mole kill in the start. Ah well will see tomorrow when Torte has posted again. yeah, it's fine. But it has to be my duty that after I fucked up to try to defend myself and get an actual anti-town role lynched. I mean, currently, assuming I don't get lynched, I've killed one mafia, and one town. It may have been dumb luck that I didn't kill 2 town, but I have killed a significantly larger proportion of the mafia than of the town. So If people are going to try the town going badly on me, then... well, they were relying on something very thin. I fucked up, but I am going to try my best to mitigate what damage I've caused. I hope the townies amongst the people voting for me realize which side they're on. | ||
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On June 07 2011 05:15 Jackal58 wrote: One that wants to pop a mole with a role that's useless to scum to gain townie points. I'm not talking about the VarpuliS kill, I'm talking about the chaos13 kill. I claimed it immediately and apologized. Claiming the kill serves no purpose as mafia as all it did was increase the suspicion of me, and you know... generally being suspicious is a bad thing for mafia. | ||
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I need to go afk for an hour or so. Shoot at me and I will answer. | ||
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Karshe GMarshal Palmar Eternalmisfit Kenpachi (replaced by pandain) tnkted hiro protagonist redFF sinani206 Bumatlarge Mataza Mig Amber[Light] Torte de Lini Cthsazsa Barundar DropBear Stefftastiq Rean Jackal58 | ||
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