I like your plan Red, but just to clarify--that is the full role I gave Cthsazsa, he is not lying about that. I was confused because Cthsazsa had already chosen GMarshal at one point, and the way I envisioned the role is that he wouldn't pick anyone until AFTER he died. I guess he just decided to send his choice in early.

I still believe Cthsazsa is town, so unless he's willing to use his power (doubtful), I would suggest killing GMarshal or Amber. Cthsazsa seems confident that GM is third party. I don't know what Amber's exact role is, so I don't know how much it has been helping us this game. And if we continue to bring Amber with us, he's just going to keep flying under the radar because he is essentially unreadable except for voting patterns.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 11 2011 23:35 GMT

#3092

On June 12 2011 07:09 Rean wrote:
1. Yes, I do think Karshe's town. I created his role and his use of it has seemed pro-town so far. His third bomb is slightly wasted as he could have used it better but i'll forgive him since he's just a newbie.

Sorry Rean, I thought about how to use it to try and gain information but I was hesitant to plant it on someone scummy because I didn't want to draw town attention away from them, i.e. "Oh we don't need to lynch Barundar since he's going to explode anyway." And I feared putting it on anyone else would make me look too suspicious and get me lynched.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 12 2011 00:56 GMT

#3103

I am town, dammit. Why are you giving Amber a free pass on Palmar's lynch list, Cthsazsa? If he has some sort of useful town ability, he hasn't helped us with it yet.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 12 2011 20:31 GMT

#3176

It looks like Jackal is getting lynched. My vote is staying on Barundar in hopes that Rean can get his list information to us. Either Amber or Cthsazsa is mafia so we have a 50/50 chance to make things a lot easier for us if Rean can get his information to us.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 12 2011 20:33 GMT

#3178

I would say me. Cthsazsa is just going to keep PMing "KILL KARSHE KILL KARSHE KILL KARSHE!"

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 13 2011 15:09 GMT

#3207

Palmar, just so I understand your position-- are you saying I'm at the top of your list and will be shot tonight, or were you just going down the roster?

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 13 2011 21:15 GMT

#3213

Cool, after we hear Rean's list we'll know Amber's alignment. That should be a good start. Kinda wish we had chosen myself or Cthsazsa to check, though, since I have a feeling it'll come down to deciding between the two of us.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 14 2011 15:19 GMT

#3268

On June 13 2011 06:24 Palmar wrote:
I know amber's role, so building a case against him is easy after tonight, if the need arises.

Palmar, has Amber's role been actively helping town? (I'm guessing I know what his role is but I could be wrong...).

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 14 2011 17:06 GMT

#3276

##Fistpound: Palmar

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 15:16 GMT

#3359

Yeah, at this point I think we have no reason to worry about millers. If the list had reported 0 or 1 mafia, sure. But 2 seems like it should be the final 2.

@GM, why do you believe DB is mafia by claiming PGO? On one of the first days, when he wasn't under suspicion yet, didn't he warn the town not to visit him? Your case against DB seems pretty sound, but I don't want a Palmar round 2 to happen.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 21:10 GMT

#3377

When does day end?

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 22:17 GMT

#3395

Palmar, I hope you know what you're doing. I really don't want to lose because we got swindled by GMarshal. He's certainly capable of it (that's a compliment, GM).

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 22:38 GMT

#3409

Palmar, I think you need to shoot redFF.

One thing I noticed when Cthsazsa was rallying against me, DropBear and redFF were the only two people to really defend me and say "No, Karshe is definitely town." I made a mental note of it because I wasn't sure I wanted to be associated with them later down the line because both of them were unknowns to the town.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 22:38 GMT

#3411

EBWOP: Also since GM is looking a bit cleaner now, which is who I would have suggested before his role was revealed.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 22:39 GMT

#3412

On June 16 2011 07:38 Palmar wrote:
if redFF was scum, why did he out your role, when you were a likely candidate for lynch/kill

I don't think he had a choice. GM stated in his post that Red just found out his role and should be posting it shortly.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 22:40 GMT

#3414

On June 16 2011 07:35 Palmar wrote:
Also, Cthazha has two pretty town looking actions on his record.

a) he claimed creating wiggles's role. if this is true he's almost definitely not mafia.

b) he planted a bomb on hiro, information that then got leaked through stefftastiq. Remember, this is when everyone agreed that hiro was likely scum.

I don't remember this at all, are you sure? Cthsazsa is a zombie, he doesn't have any bombs (that was me, but I'm out of ammo).

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 22:54 GMT

#3417

On June 16 2011 07:40 Palmar wrote:
And why shouldn't I just shoot you Karshe?

Because I'm town, and I'm just a green townie at this point... unless you count being able to rick roll people. I still have plenty of those.

I'm not going to claim that bombing Bum should make me auto-town, since admittedly it would have made me look suspicious if I didn't bomb him. Just keep in mind I could have claimed role block or several other reasons for a bomb not going through.

I have been flying under the radar for a majority of the game, which could be seen as suspicious... but in the end, I am not a threat to the town.

Karshe

United States212 Posts

June 15 2011 23:13 GMT

#3436

I am fine with your plan, Palmar. Although, the way I wrote Cthsazsa's role was: the night following your death, you can kill someone. So it would go:

Tonight: Shoot Cthsazsa
Day: Lynch someone (most likely redFF or Karshe)
Night: Cthsazsa and Palmar both get a KP

I'm not sure why I worded his role that way, it's kind of stupid... but too late now.