Pick Their Power Mafia - Page 3

On June 07 2011 09:59 Pandain wrote:
*whimpers*

On June 07 2011 22:44 Mataza wrote:
Bum or Palmar is a question of a good liar vs. a bad liar. Bum was the first confirmed anti town in the entire game. Both will go down soon™.
Who goes down first is up to preference and maybe the fact you want to use a lynch on someone who has a 90% chance to die to Assassins tonight.
Wasting a lynch is quite anti town, since it delays the lynch of real scum.


While we´re at it, did Kurumi claim which role he made?
I have made a little flow chart with 2 longer chains of roleclaiming already.

Stefftastiq(Medium) -> Mataza(Stalker) -> Meapak_Ziphh(Notary) -> Torte de lini(Roleblockstuff)

Jackal(Smilie Mason) -> Tnkted(Unlynchable) -> Palmar(Brofistdeathray Dispenser) -> Amber(Dog)

Hiro(????) -> Wiggles(Black Motherfucker)

Node(Indie rockstar) -> ???(Kp role, more than 1 kill)

BC(Batman) <-> Bum(Joker)


If I forgot something, feel free to correct this. Node maybe created for Karshe, but we can´t be sure about that.
After this game is over I would love to see a bit disclosure on the creation chain from decon.

However, everyone who didn´t say who he made a role for must either be sure that his role is very pro town or is part of the scum team waiting to mess with us in some way.

On June 07 2011 23:28 Jackal58 wrote:
What's that Lassie???
Timmy fell down the well?????
Quick! Get a rope.
Lynch Palmar!!!!

On June 07 2011 06:41 Amber[LighT] wrote:


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On June 07 2011 06:41 Amber[LighT] wrote:


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On June 07 2011 06:41 Amber[LighT] wrote:


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On June 08 2011 01:01 Karshe wrote:
The crappy thing is during the night I was deciding between Mataza and Kurumi for my bomb... I think I chose wrong.

On June 08 2011 01:06 Jackal58 wrote:

Does that mean he chose wrong?


Or does that mean Mataza is scum?

On June 08 2011 02:53 Eternalmisfit wrote:
I hope people would read the thread. The sequence of events regarding sinani (check pages 62-75) for details

Sinani asks town to kill him
Mig asks whether lynching Sinani would work (raises a ?)
Sinani claims only a night kill will do so.
Discussion goes on during the night on whether to kill him or nor.

In Day, Mig suddenly claims that he had not read the role for sinani properly and didn't see that his role only worked at night (raised a ?). He later reveals the role.

Sinani lurks since that point apart from fist-pounding Palmar and defending him. I hoped to make him slip-up by asking to reveal his role (and check the exact description between Sinani and Mig's claims) when he was on but he disappeared after my post and only replied after 7 hours.

That pretty much covers entirety of Sinani's play apart from jumping on once a day crying ' Why didn't you kill me town?'

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I am tired of trying to read the thread and doing analysis while it is near clear that no one cares to do. I will do my role-claim (great job making such a dumb role whoever it was) sometime later in the night.

As to people still wondering whether Batman and Joker were inserted by the host in the game, I created the Batman role and I am 60-70% sure that Joker's role was created by Varpulis (at a certain point after decon got my role idea). Check the initial part of the thread where varp initially made a role which he said was boring and then later said that he has made a new role which is much more interesting.

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Also, if Palmar flips scum, I am quite sure redFF is scum. Why? He knew of 2 DTs in the game (Chaos13 and Varp) and both of them died in the first night after red knew. Read his fist-pound shenanigans at the start of the day 3 as well. He started with accusing Palmar and asking no one to fistpounds to Palmar. But instantly after Palmar claimed his new role, he made a u-turn and gave him a fist-pound. There are multiple inconsistencies in his posting but no one gives a damn since no one reads the thread. He mason's Rean in D3 after being totally against him on D2 and N2.

Sinani is directly associated with Palmar also due to the fist-pounds which made absolute no sense considering there were given to a 'vigi' who had shot a DT so obviously outed the night before. Compound, Sinani's defense for Palmar (which was prolly his only contribution today), Sinani is most likely scum. If a townie had sinani's role where he was near immune to mafia hits and was green confirmed by town, he would probably do a lot analysis and make his role count. But, once Sinani was sure that we wont be lynched, he just lurked since then. Also, his roleblock claim and asking no one to shoot him much later during D3 seems suspicious since he would have seen and claimed that earlier.

Mataza is also likely scum based on his D3 behavior. When the bomb was set to explode at 24 hr mark, he was hardcore attacking Palmar and trying to bus him. Just after the deadline was changed, his posting changed a lot and also he made a post he was regretting his actions he did assuming a 24 hr bomb. Again, no one noticed since no one gives a damn apart from deciding who to shoot on next day. He and hiro were the only ones who defended Mr. Wiggles as well. I am giving 70-30 odds of him flipping scum.

Also, people missed Kurumi's 6 KP claim in N2. It is rather unlikely to be any assassins in the game since it would need atleast three assassins in the game to make it balanced for them.
3 KP (Palmar included) + 1 Kurumi + 1 GM + 1 Mafia + 1 Karshe - doesn't add up. Also, this assumes Bum has 0 KP and is lying about his powers and/or role.

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Also, I have yet to see a strong case against Torte apart from the weak suspicion based on the fact that he passively RB'd GM (which is outside his control and was confirmed by Meapak a confirmed townie). But, if you repeat someone is scum often enough, you have enough people on the bandwagon.

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And finally here is why lynching bum is a bad idea. What information that lynching bum reveal? Absolutely zilch,nada, nil. He is not even associated with anyone at this point since he was revealed N1). On the other, flipping Palmar provides a plethora of information to go on which can analyzed. I got bread-crumbed information that there is a possible vote-checker in town (don't ask where I got it) and since Palmar voted for VisceraEyes (whose list was possibly checked), his flip will again provide some interesting flip here.

Combining the fact Palmar has been anti-town, killed townies, and lied out of his ass with the point that his flip actually reveals a lot for late-game, and that he still has a KP, makes him an excellent lynch target.

Here's my case against him. And the rest of my suspect lists and analysis. Take it or leave it. I am not going to bother posting anymore till night-time. I know this a rather badly constructed post and I don't care since half the people wont bother to read it anyways.

On June 08 2011 02:52 GMarshal wrote:

Why? Why do you want to lynch the guy who may or may not have a kp and is anti town over the guy who is anti-town and has a kp?

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Why do you people have difficulty grasping this? I've explained it in small words.

Ok, you know what? Fine, if the town is going to play crappy as hell so can I.

I am declaring GM's unilateral martial law. I am going to begin inducting people who are playing notably crappy into my circle and executing them. This measure is to encourage people to think.

I'm done persuading people of things, I talk with my guns now.

On June 09 2011 07:44 Mig wrote:
Shooting Kurumi won't kill him he has 2 vests don't be crazy. Kurumi will have to be lynched at some point but town should have plenty of time. And he killed sinani last night so he actually helped town.

On June 09 2011 18:14 DropBear wrote:


Hiro is on both votecheck lists provided by Rean. He has much lower activity than many of the players remaining.

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DAY 1
Jumped on the Viscera Train late, helping it get over the line at the last minute. The only reasoning given is this:

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DAY 2
Once Mr Wiggles is brought up as red:


Which is?????????


No shit it's unlikely he's town, he was flipped in the day post. Only now it is obvious he is toast are you willing to admit this. You don't have a choice except to bus anymore.


Which was????????


This is classic nothing post. Brings up lynch candidates but doesn't want to commit either way, then tries to divert discussion into BC's post.



Tries to divert onto Cthsazsa and divert onto the BC discussion again.

He only switches over once it is apparent that there is no chance in hell of Wiggles getting out alive.

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DAY 3



Ok so he goes after Palmar, someone who he didn't have on his radar, over bumatlarge who he was talking about Day 2, for the sake of being able to trust people he doesn't trust?


So you vote Palmar, because he defends you? This is just weak reasoning for jumping on the train.

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DAY 4


Bum is almost guaranteed to die to the bomb. What kind of role would be bulletproof day and night? That would be stupidly overpowered and there's no way deconduo would have allowed it. You are trying to stop the scum team losing 2 people in one day.


If Torte survives tonight, there's more roleblocks the following night. Same as the previous point. Trying desperately to save Torte.

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CONCLUSION

Hiro has actively tried to derail the Wiggles and Torte lynches. He has been on last second trains on Viscera and Palmar with little or poor reasoning. He tried repeatedly to derail town concerning the BC post which was irrelevant at the time. He is on the votecheck lists.

Hiro Protagonist is Mafia.

On June 09 2011 16:30 Rean wrote:
Amber[LighT], listen up. You're going to tell me who you targetted each night. Quote posts and growl at your night 1 target, wiggle your tail at the n2 target, bark loudly at the n3 target. Capiche? Good doggie.

On June 09 2011 06:18 Jackal58 wrote:
I was role blocked last night. A smiley free day!!!!!!
Now I'm going bowling. And drinking. Mostly drinking.
Fuck you smileys!!!!!!

On June 09 2011 08:22 GMarshal wrote:

Kurumi, it says so in the day post, I only had one member in my circle, so only one person I could attempt to sacrifice.

Also FUCK YEAH, my mistake has been redeemed, thanks sinani206, I owe you a post game beer

##Fistpound: Palmar

On June 10 2011 02:22 Jackal58 wrote:
I thought you were growling at me being role blocked. But I gotcha.
Also ##Fistpound Palmar.
Also I'm buried at work and won't be active til later tonight.
Also no fucking smileys.

On June 11 2011 09:50 GMarshal wrote:
We should lynch Jackal, find if he is SK or if there is a framer in play. If there is a framer, then all our awesome list checks were just rendered worthless. I mean as a SK we cannot vigi him, so we lynch him, have palmar vigi Barundar and then narrow down the list that is left.

Sound like a plan?

On June 11 2011 18:15 Palmar wrote:
I need fistpounds guys, need extra health and the bullet.

At the moment my main concern would be to negate as many KP's as possible. GMarshal can't kill anyone tonight because he doesn't have anyone in his cult.

Karshe has a KP, I have a KP, the mafia has a KP and jackal has a KP, in theory.

We have 11 players remaining:

Karshe
GMarshal
redFF
Amber[LighT]
Cthsazsa
Barundar
DropBear
stefftastiq
Rean
Jackal58
Palmar

I think up to 4 (but more likely 3) of those are anti-town.

Barundar, Jackal and someone else.

Lynching Jackal and shooting Barundar is a good plan. There is an additional benefit to it in the fact that I can probably sort-of-clear amber in the process. I think Rean considers him clear too.

And that leaves what to do with karshe's bomb, and whom GMarshal should introduce into his circle. I guess we can discuss that in the night.

Stefftastiq, we still need to hear from you, you should have some information for us?

#Fistpound me!

##Vote Jackal58

On June 11 2011 18:15 Palmar wrote:
I need fistpounds guys, need extra health and the bullet.

#Fistpound me!

##Vote Jackal58

On June 11 2011 22:59 Jackal58 wrote:

Lynch Barundar. 3 black alignments will leave the game tonight. Me and GMarshall will be dead and the 3rd will leave as a victor. Plus you lynch a red. Win win win for town. Why do you think GMarshall and I jumped on Palmar so quick when he claimed he was an assassin? Wasn't because we though he was scum. I might not be town and I can't possibly win my condition now since you checked me but I would love to deny GMarshall his wincon too. Plus as a disinterested 3rd party I honestly want town to win. Fuck scum.
And none of us could take a chance on shooting while Kurumi was still alive. We would have been outed immediately.
So town - Lynch Barundar. He's scum. I have no interest in shooting townies or scum. Just assassins.

On June 12 2011 05:02 Karshe wrote:
Well it's not me, and if it's not you, then it has to be Amber or GMarshal. If you believe GMarshal is 3rd party then it has to be Amber. How is anyone supposed to build a case against a dog? All he can do is q