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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 00:23 GMT
#3522
See? Solid analysis! ^_^

##Vote: stefftastiq
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 16:01 GMT
#3531
On June 18 2011 00:56 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 00:27 Karshe wrote:
Why GM over Steff? In case GM has extra knives or something?


yep. and in case his cult has a majority win condition, and in case he's scum or third party

Wouldn't RedFF have revealed that if it were the case? I'm pretty sure that would be part of the role description.

I mean the cult having a majority win-condition, obviously he wouldn't know if I was a serial killer or scum.

There is one thing that RedFF didn't reveal about my role, at my bequest (when he was interrogating me in PM's I asked him not to ^_^), but I'm only willing to share it if I'm in real danger of dying, as it may give the enemies of the town a chance to fuck me over. Can you trust me at least until tonight? I'd rather not share it at all, but its rather important that I survive until tomorrow.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 17:39 GMT
#3535
On June 18 2011 02:36 Palmar wrote:
i want to lynch gm.


No doubt you do.

Please, ignore all my contributions and just lynch me!

Seriously, make a case or don't, but don't lynch "just because"
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 17:55 GMT
#3537
On June 18 2011 02:51 Rean wrote:
##Vote: GMarshal

I'm not going to pass on a plan that guarantees a town victory. I don't care what parts of your role may or may not exist.

And lynching me later also guarantees town victory.

I guess I might as well claim this shit then.

I didn't want to claim because I was afraid the mafia would take a revenge shot but w/e

The last part of my role pm reads

"In addition to your alignment based win conditions, you must ensure the survival of the cult, you can only win if you are still alive at the end of the game"

Are you guys seriously going to fuck my wincondition even after I slaughtered the mafia for you? really? Again if by tomorrow we haven't nailed the mafia then I'm 100% ok with you lynching me in retribution for my plan failing, but I've come *this* close to winning with you guys, are you *really* going to fuck me over like this?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 17:56 GMT
#3538
Again, if we haven't won by tomorrow, you can lynch me, *thats* how confident I'm in my plan.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 18:39 GMT
#3541
On June 18 2011 03:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 02:56 GMarshal wrote:
Again, if we haven't won by tomorrow, you can lynch me, *thats* how confident I'm in my plan.


how about lynching cthzasza to remove his kp, then i shoot steff. i have better town read on karshe than cth.

We can do that if you really want, but I'm almost 100% convinced cthzasza is town.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 19:08 GMT
#3544
On June 18 2011 03:58 Palmar wrote:
damn gm, you are good at this game.

i think you are the remaining mafia, i think you have a knife left, you only used one to kill kurumi, the other is the still missing mafia kp from day 3 or something.

even if im wrong, then im sorry, but my win is more important than your win. you played well, any side you flip as was lucky to have you.

town, lynch gm

Go through the day posts, its 100% clear that the cultist leader used two sacrifices. It appears in the day post so theres no way I'm lying.

Don't fuck over my win condition. I can't kill anyone. Come on, I *almost* have a win in the bag for us. It all adds up. Again, worst comes to worst you lynch me tomorrow.

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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 19:24 GMT
#3546
On June 18 2011 04:21 Palmar wrote:
yep, you're right, sorry.

it dont matter though, i am sorry if you're telling the truth. this isnt done out of spite, or anything like that. i have tons of respect for you, but this is a game and i want to win, so ill do whatever i think is best for town.

im putting my faith in rean being town, and my entire revision of your plan is created around this.

Sure Rean is town.

Town =/= right.

If he is town then he is getting shot tonight, because the mafia can't afford confirmed townies.

Again, I don't see the issue with letting me live another night, and if we haven't won, lynching me tomorrow.

Seriously, I've played super town this entire game. All I need is to make it to tomorrow, and we win, come on rean and palmar, don't make me fucking lose ;_;
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 20:31 GMT
#3548
On June 18 2011 04:38 Palmar wrote:
i feel sorry for you, whoever created your cultist miller survivor role basically made sure youd lose this game.

but again, i want to win.

And you will.

Changing the order of the kills dosn't change anything except letting me win.

Come ON! You *know* I'm town, I've done nothing but contribute (bar day 1 and 2, sorry about that). There is no case, I don't understand why you won't just agree to kill me last. I have no tricks up my sleeve, no aces left. I can only win if you let me.

Point out a single anti-town action from me, a single post pushing scummy objectives.

My posts weep of being green, and still you want to kill me for some undefined reason. I have no KP, and nothing I can do to hurt the town. Why?

I still don't understand why rean's alignment is relevant btw, my whole plan was drafted around him being town and getting shot tonight, which is what is going to happen with 90% probability.

I can win with you guys, I've been trying to all game long, and the possibility is right there within my grasp. Town is going to win no matter what, why do you want to steal my join victory....

*sigh* ;_;
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 20:58 GMT
#3551
On June 18 2011 05:46 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 05:31 GMarshal wrote:
On June 18 2011 04:38 Palmar wrote:
i feel sorry for you, whoever created your cultist miller survivor role basically made sure youd lose this game.

but again, i want to win.

And you will.

Changing the order of the kills dosn't change anything except letting me win.

Come ON! You *know* I'm town, I've done nothing but contribute (bar day 1 and 2, sorry about that). There is no case, I don't understand why you won't just agree to kill me last. I have no tricks up my sleeve, no aces left. I can only win if you let me.

Point out a single anti-town action from me, a single post pushing scummy objectives.

My posts weep of being green, and still you want to kill me for some undefined reason. I have no KP, and nothing I can do to hurt the town. Why?

I still don't understand why rean's alignment is relevant btw, my whole plan was drafted around him being town and getting shot tonight, which is what is going to happen with 90% probability.

I can win with you guys, I've been trying to all game long, and the possibility is right there within my grasp. Town is going to win no matter what, why do you want to steal my join victory....

*sigh* ;_;


explain how I know you're town.

you know redff1s' investigative ability has a 25% chance of failing.

Judge me by my actions. I've killed two mafia and two serial killers. I've pushed those I deemed scum, with arguments, logic and analysis. You can't come up with a single scummy post of mine, or prove, even to yourself that I am scum.

Yet you still want to lynch me.

We kill who we think to be scum here, period, we don't kill people who are likely town to "reduce risk" especially when that risk is fictitious.

Also, I hadn't actually read that last part about redFF's power in the day post. I wasn't aware of that, so I suppose it still lends your arguments *some* credence.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 21:21 GMT
#3555
You are costing me the game.
We don't even know steff's role. No one has checked him and no one has claimed it. How do you know he dosn't have a gun.

I don't have any shennanigans to pull and you know it. You just want me dead. I can accept that, but don't hide it under "oh its the best play". It isn't it makes not one whit of difference what order we do it in.

You are ignoring a second major fact. How do you know its *mafia* we are dealing with.

What if whats left is a serial killer. A list checking serial killer.

I doubt it is, but it will be interesting to see what happens if Rean dosn't die tonight, no?

Sure, cth is clear and so are you and lets accept that rean is. How do you know karshe dosn't have a hand grenade as part of his role? How do you know steff dosn't have a mindblast that can kill a player?

You don't, you are just deadset on killing me. Of the three, I'm the only one who's role is actually fully disclosed, and confirmed by an outside source. Yet I'm the most likely to pull shennanigans?
Once again, you have no real reason to kill me. Or at least no logical reason to.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 21:36 GMT
#3557
Rean, come in and tell him he's an idiot.

Seriously though, my role is the only semiconfirmed of the three, and I'm out of kills. You should absolutely be killing me *last*

either way, I'll wait until Rean pops by and sees my logic.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 21:38 GMT
#3558
Also, I never said "mafia" I said serial killer, which is a bird of a different color. But I digress, I *really* doubt rean is anything but green
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 21:43 GMT
#3560
On June 18 2011 06:41 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 06:38 GMarshal wrote:
Also, I never said "mafia" I said serial killer, which is a bird of a different color. But I digress, I *really* doubt rean is anything but green


yeah, I wasn't going to draw up "mafia, or sk, or something else anti town".

But you get the point.

I've commited to that read, and I'm sticking to it, cause no one has told me I'm an idiot for it.

I kinda rely on people telling me I'm an idiot.

Oh, is that all you need?

You are an idiot then, vote for someone else!

did it work?
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 17 2011 23:31 GMT
#3565
On June 18 2011 07:29 Rean wrote:
I created Karshe's role. He's harmless (unless you count rickrolling people as harming). It's between steff and GMarshal here, and i'm not entirely set on who to lynch yet, but GMarshal does seem like the better option for now.

And you know I'm harmless too. Seriously man, give me a chance to win with you, worst case scenario you have to lynch me tomorrow, and I'm 100% confident we won't reach that stage.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 18 2011 18:02 GMT
#3572
Thanks for fucking over my wincondition after I made sure you had the game in the bag. Way to reward my analysis and activity.

I *really* appreciate it.

Don't bother apologizing, next time I'll leave you idiots to keep shooting into the town and killing each other.

Oh, and for the record, I'm not only town, but I also know that theres a mafia and a serial killer left. I should thank Barundar for crumbing that, I wouldn't have realized in time. Now my trap is out the window.

And after killing me, we lose for sure.

Which is what you morons have earned.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 18 2011 18:06 GMT
#3573
Oh, yes, let me just point out Palmar, that town losing horribly in this incredibly town favored setup is *entirely* on your head.

Because you are too scared of a good player to see the common sense he is pointing out.

gg wp, mr serial killer and mafia, I take my hat of to you, you proved that this town can't find its ass with both hands, much less figure out a clever plan.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#3575
On June 19 2011 03:06 Karshe wrote:
How is Cthsazsa killing me if you're shooting Steff?

Afraid that Cth's shot will go through your vests, Mr. I volunteer to be shot, because I know I can't die?

Or maybe you are the mafia and salivating at the fact you don't get shot tonight, and come dawn you can ally with the sk to off palmar.

I suggest you both vote for him at dawn, it guarantees that one of you will win, probably the mafia.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 18 2011 18:23 GMT
#3578
On June 19 2011 03:16 Karshe wrote:
I am voting with Palmar because he is our only CONFIRMED 100% town and he is also our Vig.

You're grasping at straws GM, Cthsazsa does not have a "shot." His role that *I* wrote specifically says it goes through all forms of protection.

That said, I am still fine with switching over to Steff because I think he is most likely to be mafia. But decide quick, I'm leaving the house in 10 minutes.

Palmar is town, sure. That dosn't make him right. As a matter of fact, based on his track record I'd argue that if we eck out a win it will be *in spite of* Palmar's "contributions".

I never said she had a shot, I'm talking about her death vigi that goes through bp. Like serial killer vests.

See, you don't care who dies as long as it isn't you.

Thats not a very town trait.

You know what, fuck it all, you guys want to fuck me over after everything I've done for you, for absolutely no reason other than this intangible "gm is dangerous, OH NO, he is a *decent player* whose role has been *fully* revealed, by an outside source. He is a clear and present danger"

You guys are screwing me over and yourselves, because, hey, why not, I mean lets just rob GM of any chance of winning after everything he has done for us.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 18 2011 18:28 GMT
#3581
On June 19 2011 03:24 Karshe wrote:
Cthsazsa couldn't be a SK, right?

The only thing I found odd was the night he chose GMarshal, before Cthsazsa was even dead. And there were two nights in a row where Amber protected GM.


I'd give you my thoughts, but since I apparently can't win anymore I have no interest in helping.

You fuck me over, then I'll make sure you get the same back.

I'm going to laugh and laugh at Palmar when the serial killer/mafia wins.

You DO NOT lynch townies who are obviously not scum, but obviously that basic tenet of town play hasn't been absorbed yet.

I'm sure that this spectacular loss will make it something to be remembered.
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