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Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 05 2011 22:51 GMT
#2001
Yeah, I think you are. Mason me if you want, this stupid smily mason circle is filled to the brim with scum anyway
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 05 2011 22:52 GMT
#2002
On June 06 2011 07:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Depends on how Mataza flips.
I see it as a distinct possibility.
Scum shooting a mole or bussing another scum for town cred is not out of the ordinary


Bussing isn't out of the ordinary but shooting their mole night 1 certainly would be. If they wanted to buy palmar town cred would be much much better for them to just shoot whichever one of them has a weak role power.
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 05 2011 22:53 GMT
#2003
kk
##Vote Rean
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 05 2011 22:55 GMT
#2004
Ah yeah, just to mention it :D
Palmar bussed his only remaining teammate in SNMM2 without any provocation.
I wouldn´t say it´s beyond him to sell out his team
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 05 2011 22:59 GMT
#2005
Yea I mean it is possible but bussing someone is a lot different than killing the mole when the mole is so incredibly valuable late game for the mafia. So not 100% palmar is town but I am like 85% sure of it. Btw here is kita's post on his reads before he died.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 05 2011 07:19 kitaman27 wrote:
Here are my current reads. I'll post again about the best way to assign the night shots a bit later.

Palmar

Shot varp day one. I would be shocked if mafia didn't use his kp on him tonight. A good target for medics and watchers. I'm slightly concerned he might shoot a town if his list from earlier was serious though.

#Fistpound Palmer

sinani206

Assuming his role claim is true, I don't see him being mafia. He has an incredibly powerful role, but I wish he hadn't claimed.

Karshe

Needs to post more.

Amber[light]

Town, I guess? It would be incredibly easy to play scum with this role. I would assume he would be dt checked by someone.

redFF

Aggressively posting. Shows motivation to help town.

stefftastiq

Just a gut read, I guess. Nothing to back this up.

DropBear

Starts strong on day one, but has dropped off since. He defended sandroba day one, which I like since it was a dumb bandwagon.

chaos13

He has a larger investment in this game than I'm used to. I haven't seen his style as scum, which makes me less confidant of my read, but I'm leaning town.

Cthsazsa

Mostly town motivated posts.

tnkted

He is either scum or playing a real bad town game. He has made little effort to contribute because he claims to be immortal. At this point, I think he has lost the luxury to keep his power private and eventually should be forced to claim.

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote:
This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward.


GMarshal

Shows little indication that he wants town to win this game. Playing incredibly safe. Inducts Palmer to his kill circle, rather than someone he suspects as scum.

Rean

Hardcore lurker. Previous games as town he becomes rather defensive when accusations are made against him, while this game he ignores them. His aggressiveness has taken a serious hit this game.

Jackal58

Jackal has a distinctive aggressive town style. I haven't seen it this game. He has been either neutered or is scum.

Torte de Lini

Pretty useless so far. Strongly playing the newb card.

Mataza

I'm having a really hard time deciding between inexperienced player or obvious scum. Most of his posts I disagree with, but I'm not confidant a scum would ever post like this.

bumatlarge

Red or SK. Either way, I'd like to see him dead.

Kurumi

It is pretty likely he is the SK. He claims to intend to want to help town. I would be much more willing to trust him over bum. Wouldn't mind if he cut down his post frequency a bit though.

Null Reads:
Kenpachi
Mig
Meapak_Ziphh
Barundar



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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 05 2011 23:08 GMT
#2006
On June 06 2011 07:51 Rean wrote:
Yeah, I think you are. Mason me if you want, this stupid smily mason circle is filled to the brim with scum anyway

Life can only kill you once.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 05 2011 23:13 GMT
#2007
Steff you get a random action pmd to you every night right. So what did you see?

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2011 23:37 GMT
#2008
So, we have yet to have anyone claim they created a role that can bus people.

Can we please confirm it? Cause shooting as the town wishes is much easier when I can be sure I won't be redirected.
Computer says mafia
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 05 2011 23:39 GMT
#2009
On June 06 2011 08:37 Palmar wrote:
So, we have yet to have anyone claim they created a role that can bus people.

Can we please confirm it? Cause shooting as the town wishes is much easier when I can be sure I won't be redirected.

no you're not frickin shooting. And in no way does nobody claiming a bus role mean there is not a bus role. Like 10 people have died and there's still like 5 mafia...How about you do some analysis/scumhunting and come back with your findings instead of posting useless pointless shit???
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12985 Posts
June 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#2010
I agree
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2011 23:42 GMT
#2011
Don't worry, I need 4 fistpounds to shoot, so I don't see it happening

But while we don't know if there is a bus role, I can't shoot anyone I claim to shoot. How about you tell me redFF, who, aside from torte and bum, is scum?
Computer says mafia
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 05 2011 23:47 GMT
#2012
On June 06 2011 08:41 Pandain wrote:
I agree

Lol i must have missed this did you replace someone?
On June 06 2011 08:42 Palmar wrote:
Don't worry, I need 4 fistpounds to shoot, so I don't see it happening

But while we don't know if there is a bus role, I can't shoot anyone I claim to shoot. How about you tell me redFF, who, aside from torte and bum, is scum?

Torte is definite scum. Bum is obviously likely scum at this point. Barundar is lurking like a mofo, could very well be scum. Mataza is scum. Jackal too maybe. Theres the scum team from my point of view. Maybe swap out Barundar for Hiro Protagonist. I'd like to lynch and kill into that list if possible. If anyone disagrees with me please say so. Palmar who do you think is scum??? I'm not the one on trial here I've been actively looking for scum you've been spamming and shooting random townies and in chaos13 you shot one of the most pro-town players in the game.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 05 2011 23:50 GMT
#2013
Sorry for clarification
bum, mataza, jackal, wiggles, barundar/hiro/eternalmisfit, torte de lini, Varpulis
There's the scumteam from my point of view. I know that's 7 players, maybe take out Jackal or Bum. Don't ask why I think Barundar/hiro/eternalmisfit are scum just let me tell you one of them is scum. I think there are better lynches then Bum today but he's getting lynched, focus on the rest of these people.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2011 23:53 GMT
#2014
Again, my anlysis can befound here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9525385

I was wrong on some points (chaos13, varpulis) I was right on some points (bum really did not want to shoot varpulis).

Node got killed, we still don't know anything about tnkted.

Mataza is still a weird one for me, I have no idea, but I have no problem lynching or shooting him.

I think we should get rid of kurumi as fast as possible, he's no good for the town. Obviously I was wrong in my analysis, so I'm getting right back to the drawing board. I didn't feel the discussion during day2 added much value, as Wiggles was such a definite lynch.

I will go back through day 2 and the night, to see if I can pick something out.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 05 2011 23:57 GMT
#2015
I should probably reveal this now. I lied about my role hoping to absorb mafia hits. tnkted confirmed me, despite knowing I was lying, so that seems pretty pro-town to me. the fistpounds don't have anything to do with my ability to shoot during the night. My role is basically a night-time vigilante, I can always shoot.

The fist pounds simply add an extra life during the night per every 4 pounds. I think this information is worth revealing the truth of my role. So if I get 8 fistpounds it takes 3 hits to kill me.
Computer says mafia
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 05 2011 23:59 GMT
#2016
So who was rbd by torte last night? Meapak said that tld's power would likely role block a bunch of people.

I have to think there was a reason behind the meapak kill from the mafia. Either he was right about some mafia not claiming they were roleblocked and they didn't want it revealed or more likely tld is mafia and they didn't want meapak to tell the townies how to avoid his roleblocking power. So I am not 100% sure tld is mafia but his posting has been useless/if he is red it confirms GM as town/ and there could have been motivation to kill meapak to keep tld's role secret. Eh overall it isn't the strongest case, I definitely wouldn't say tld is 100% mafia but I would consider voting to lynch him if we can't find someone better after bum.

Other than that red I think your list is pretty decent. But I am still pretty uncertain about a lot of people. The only people I feel confident in being town are red, palmar, cthsazsa, steff.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2011 00:02 GMT
#2017
Oh and sinani he seems 100% town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
June 06 2011 00:03 GMT
#2018
Could you fully roleclaim palmar? Exact wording please.
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redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 06 2011 00:03 GMT
#2019
On June 06 2011 08:53 Palmar wrote:
Again, my anlysis can befound here:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=9525385

I was wrong on some points (chaos13, varpulis) I was right on some points (bum really did not want to shoot varpulis).

Node got killed, we still don't know anything about tnkted.

Mataza is still a weird one for me, I have no idea, but I have no problem lynching or shooting him.

I think we should get rid of kurumi as fast as possible, he's no good for the town. Obviously I was wrong in my analysis, so I'm getting right back to the drawing board. I didn't feel the discussion during day2 added much value, as Wiggles was such a definite lynch.

I will go back through day 2 and the night, to see if I can pick something out.


Hey there man Good Job making one good post in nearly a week of play! Oh and fistpounding makes you vet. kk
##Palmar
There is no reason not to fistpound palmar at this stage town.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
June 06 2011 00:03 GMT
#2020
I mean##Fistpound Palmar
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