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On May 23 2011 04:47 infinitestory wrote: Doesn't that also mean that out of Bumatlarge, Caller, GMarshal, Fishball there are 2 scum, based on who's alive + scum counts? That does NOT sound right to me, especially since GMarshal is as good as town right now. I suspect there's one mafia out of Bumatlarge, Caller, Fishball, (guess who I think it is) and the mole is hiding somewhere in those two votelists. This is another reason I think this framing claim is bogus. If there were any framing in the two lists here, then AT LEAST two of bumatlarge, caller, GMarshal, fishball are mafia no matter what. | ||
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On May 23 2011 06:40 deconduo wrote: Hmm, we can assume that the comparison DT is town as well as its a completely useless role for mafia. I'm interested as to why Ace checked GMarshal, that too seems like a waste if he actually is mafia. Maybe its just WIFOM but it seems like a strange move. I don't think it was Ace doing the rolecheck. Ace killed Incognito. | ||
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On May 23 2011 06:44 deconduo wrote: I don't see what other role has a rolecheck? Maybe I'm missing something though. Role Cop: Pretty sweet. You get people's roles! | ||
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On May 23 2011 06:47 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Barundar couldn't have been the alignment check. It says the conversion, which works as an alignment check, is a night 3 ability. Meaning, we have an alignment DT. I disagree with your interpretation of the wording, but to be sure: Does a townie Caller GF get to use his Alignment DT ability from the start? I'm kinda surprised we don't seem to have a Modern Detective. That role is pretty OP for town. | ||
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On May 23 2011 08:16 GMarshal wrote: ^_^ Can I request he check Caller tonight? If he finds him town he should let us know, so we know there is a framer at play. If he is scum then we can trust our list checks to be mostly reliable, at least at finding scum. If the DT would rather do something else then we probably have no choice but to lynch Caller tomorrow, which I would rather not do, as lynches for information are terrible play. or framer, if he exists, will just frame Caller, and we're right back at square 1 >____> | ||
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I'm the parity cop -_____________-. I checked myself because the parity cop is weak against the mole (because he flips at the start of Day 3) - think about how the Parity Cop works. Eiii is "same" as me. | ||
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On May 25 2011 13:41 chaoser wrote: woahhh, flamewheel is blue! You didn't gather that from his death post? + Show Spoiler + ;P | ||
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I think Mafia 2 DT was only overpowered because mafia hadn't taken many misinformation roles. GF/framer type roles have a bigger chance of affecting listchecks than single target checks. As mafia, I would have tried to take Mafia 2 DT and just spread around lists that are *almost* correct. The town seemed tied up by the listchecks a lot, and didn't really assume the possibility of framer/GF type roles, so it's lucky there weren't any. I'm still mindblown as to how town managed to pick so many unique roles. I think the only reason Mafia 2 DT was picked by so many people is because the M2DT/Vote Rigger combo was discussed in depth pre-pick. We somehow managed to get a huge number of investigative roles, including the strong ones (Modern Detective, NKVD, Parity Cop, Role Cop), and I think there's a good amount of luck involved there. On the flip side, people not having time to be fully invested early on made it tougher for town. Incog's scant posting on Day 1 made me very wary (and I still think his early posting habits were pretty scummy), which unfortunately let Caller and Ace bandwagon pretty easily. I do remember noting at one point that Caller said "Let's stop thinking and just lynch Incognito," and from that point on I was suspicious. Similarly, KillerSOS being away for two days got him killed unnecessarily. If he had just claimed earlier, we would have had time to at least get a new target. PYP Tracker isn't easily faked by mafia, and it isn't useful for them at all. I personally think I played kinda meh. I focused on posting habits a little too much, I think, and I was too daunted by the sheer number of possible mafia roles. I also got too easily thrown off by the clusterfuck of finger pointing on Day 1, since I usually take it upon myself to read and absorb everything in the thread. | ||
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