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On May 29 2011 10:28 Radfield wrote:
lol, you were always part of the list. At no time were you confirmed, bum and foolishness were. Lynching you is not "lynching outside the list" in any way, shape or form.
Yes it is.
Fact: there is a list with four players, one is scum 100%
its Rad, kita, Eiii and mepak.
we have three lynches.
One of the people on that list can prove himself to be not scum/force the mafia to shoot him, so we have three people and three lynches. One is guaranteed to be scum. Lynching me leaves us with three people and two lynches.
Three is oftentimes greater than two. So lynching me *is* lynching outside the list.
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There is no contradiction, I had a town read on caller, but the information against him was pretty damning, which is why I preferred a DT check him, so that if the information was wrong he could be spared, and my list checks could be proven invalid, sure, I'd rather not lynch players whos posts make me think they are town, but I'll always go with a dt check over my instincts, as they are often wrong, so yes, I was ok with lynching him when he was the only check we had to go on even if there was a possibility of a frame influencing the check, however an opportunity arose that would avoid the lynch if I was wrong, I wanted to seize that, so I did.
it became a lynch for information when people said they were doing it to check the veracity of my lists, which is why I made the point that lynching for information is bad.
Any other points you would like to bring against me?
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oh and I forgot.
##Unvote
##Vote: Radfeild
congratulations, you are one of the first people to successfully draw a semi-OMGUS vote from me. Valiant effort scum. I wonder if your efforts will pan out, if the town will be sheep. Or if they will choose to follow me to victory. Its a sad thing that I have no faith in the town abilities to read through my posts if you get me lynched and figure out your plan.
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On May 29 2011 11:02 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 10:50 GMarshal wrote:
There is no contradiction, I had a town read on caller, but the information against him was pretty damning, which is why I preferred a DT check him, so that if the information was wrong he could be spared, and my list checks could be proven invalid, sure, I'd rather not lynch players whos posts make me think they are town, but I'll always go with a dt check over my instincts, as they are often wrong, so yes, I was ok with lynching him when he was the only check we had to go on even if there was a possibility of a frame influencing the check, however an opportunity arose that would avoid the lynch if I was wrong, I wanted to seize that, so I did.
it became a lynch for information when people said they were doing it to check the veracity of my lists, which is why I made the point that lynching for information is bad.
Any other points you would like to bring against me? Do you know why I die night 1 and 2 so often? It's because I put in the time, and check EVERYTHING that people claim: Show nested quote +it became a lynch for information when people said they were doing it to check the veracity of my lists, which is why I made the point that lynching for information is bad. Not once, not ONE SINGLE TIME, did anyone bring up lynching caller to "check the veracity of your lists",between the time you so strongly voted Caller, and the time you decided that you would "rather not" lynch him.
Then I misremembered, I was pretty sure someone said that the lynch would be used to prove my lists. I must be wrong then. In principle I'd still not lynch someone who may be framed if I can get a verdict either way.
Although I do like that you went back and verified, it at least shows you have some commitment to the game.
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On May 29 2011 11:08 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:02 GMarshal wrote:
oh and I forgot.
##Unvote
##Vote: Radfeild
congratulations, you are one of the first people to successfully draw a semi-OMGUS vote from me. Valiant effort scum. I wonder if your efforts will pan out, if the town will be sheep. Or if they will choose to follow me to victory. Its a sad thing that I have no faith in the town abilities to read through my posts if you get me lynched and figure out your plan. If you really want to get people to vote for me than build a case. You're sure right, I mean, you seem pretty sure? So it shouldn't be too hard to go through and find some scummy Day 3 and Day 4 tells. Compare my pre Day 3 posting to my post Day 3 posting. Figure out my motivations for the things I've been saying. Show my contradictions and scum tells! ACTUALLY DO SOME WORK!
I did
I fucking handed the town this game. the only way they can lose now is if they are stupid.
You played a great game as mafia, but your desperate attempt to save yourself from the list check proves your scummy nature. I don't have to do work, I've already won. You are just trying to save yourself and buy some chance of winning. I'm not having any of it, even if I die the town has already won, since you had to oust yourself to get your lynch outside of the list of four.
gg already, work is superfluous when you have the single most broken ability in the game and ten billion dts, you lost this when kita claimed medic, as you had even me fooled.
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@Foolishness, can you point out which of radfeilds arguments convinced you? I'm curious as to how a vet with as much respect as you have could be making such a huge blunder...
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On May 29 2011 11:26 Foolishness wrote:
And before you say so, no I'm not going to reveal the plan as it would involve me revealing my role, and I would have to sit here and explain to you the 8-10 different scenarios that would result, all the while listening to you go "NO THE OTHER IS MAFIA YOUR SO DUMB".
Not worth my time.
You are confirmed town, so I'll trust you, don't reveal it, especially if it involves changing the tempo of the lynches.
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On May 29 2011 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:34 GMarshal wrote:On May 29 2011 11:26 Foolishness wrote:
And before you say so, no I'm not going to reveal the plan as it would involve me revealing my role, and I would have to sit here and explain to you the 8-10 different scenarios that would result, all the while listening to you go "NO THE OTHER IS MAFIA YOUR SO DUMB".
Not worth my time. You are confirmed town, so I'll trust you, don't reveal it, especially if it involves changing the tempo of the lynches. What is to trust? You already know his role, remember?
But not his plan. I have no idea what that is, especially considering his role.
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Oh and kita, why the vote for me?
Either way, please do remember to protect foolishness tonight and to lynch rad in the morning. ^_^
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On May 29 2011 11:43 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:40 GMarshal wrote:
Oh and kita, why the vote for me?
Either way, please do remember to protect foolishness tonight and to lynch rad in the morning. ^_^ Opps I lied about being medic. ##Shoot GMarshal pew pew
Sure thing, lynch radfeild today then and the game is in the bag!
However I believe you are lying. 
Plus you didn't bold your kill...
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On May 29 2011 11:52 bumatlarge wrote:
See, this mole thing is so fickle. I'm just going to do whatever foolishness is doing. When it is just 1 scum left, and the whole town is revealed, it doesn't leave much of an opening for us to "figure it out" really, unless we tried to go by what dead scum's relation to the remaining players is, which can eventually get into WIFOM, (especially using Ace as a means of defending yourself Rad, sorry I can't stand behind that after I made an abysmal counter-analysis on him)
This end game more or less leads us into "we will probably win" not we will win if we are a good town. We have to rely on a little bit of luck and our instincts. I'll read back on what Ace said about you rad, and I really think you wouldn't be a mole over GM, but I know jack shit.
Eiii has become a pointless lynch, because I think the mole has to be GM or Rad, maybe kitaman. Hopefully that isn't a by product of two townies arguing with one another. Since GM's power is virtually useless now, and killing him does confirm the list, I don't see much reason not to. Lynching rad would be abysmal, because we haven't gotten enough meat to convict him, and lynching a BP at this point would be horrendous. Good luck kita, hopefully you get shot, or you manage to get a protect off tomorrow, either will lead us to a near certain win.
And my apologies to GM, but you gave me permission!
##Vote GMarshal
No hard feelings. As I said, I don't have much faith in the town anyway, we are too easily led astray. But please when I flip town lynch rad, ok? I don't want him to get away with this so easily.
Plus if foolishness is to be believed he has won the game for us already.
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On May 29 2011 11:56 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 11:50 kitaman27 wrote:On May 29 2011 11:41 Foolishness wrote:
I kinda don't want to kill either GM or Radfield at this point. I though your plan ensures that it doesn't matter who gets lynched tonight? It also relies on you not lying and not being the mole...minor details.
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ok I promise I won't criticize it if its solid, but can you reveal it to us, I'm honestly intrigued...
if it lets the mafia sabotage it then don't tell obviously, but whatever it is sounds fascinating.
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On May 29 2011 12:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
GM at this point no townie should be defending themselves like this. I know I told incog that a townie wanting to die is stupid but at this point all townies should be willing to die. Foolishness has called for my death several times and I'd be more than happy to do so in order to prove my alignment. These last few pages have convinced me.
sorry for being afk, I was at the movies -_-
Each and every townie has a duty to fight for their lives. The closer to lylo we are the more important that is. its not just my life, but a wasted lynch. A lynch we need. I'm willing to die, but I'm not going to make it easy on scum to get me lynched. I was the first to say that if you want to get me lynched today is the day, but I refuse to just give up and let the enemy take a step closer to victory.
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On May 29 2011 12:22 Foolishness wrote:
Or maybe GMarshal will tell you if you ask nicely
Do you want me to? Because I'm really confused...
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On May 29 2011 12:26 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 12:23 GMarshal wrote:On May 29 2011 12:22 Foolishness wrote:
Or maybe GMarshal will tell you if you ask nicely Do you want me to? Because I'm really confused... Wait if GM knows then how is he scum?
Because role =/= alignment, I could be the mole. That's radfeild's entire argument. Apparently me not lying and asking questions means I'm scum ^_^
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On May 29 2011 12:28 Foolishness wrote:
GMarshal never answered my earlier question:
You know my role, can you sit and think of a way to guarantee the town to win?
No, I really can't, but I'm obviously missing something.
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On May 29 2011 12:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 12:35 Foolishness wrote:
You're not really the methman are you? Oh I am, I just need to flip town. Then if kita dies tonight town kills you. If kita lives town kills kita.
What? Why are we killing foolishness?
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Also its probably too late to save me. When I flip remember to lynch radfeild first, and then at lylo lynch into the list!
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*sigh* 18 minutes left. My streak of not getting lynched as town is going down the drain -__-
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On May 29 2011 12:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2011 12:45 Foolishness wrote:
Unfortunately I do not think it is best to kill you (meapak) today. Why not? Kill me now and the town wins. We have enough votes, let's do it.
You are sure this wins us the game? 100%
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