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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:28 GMT
#841
Anyone not on the Barundar or Kavdragon voting lists.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
May 18 2011 05:29 GMT
#842
I will carry the ring into mordor!
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 18 2011 05:30 GMT
#843
On May 18 2011 14:28 Ace wrote:
Anyone not on the Barundar or Kavdragon voting lists.

Anyone is not a good answer. Name someone specific please.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 18 2011 05:31 GMT
#844
On May 18 2011 14:30 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:28 Ace wrote:
Anyone not on the Barundar or Kavdragon voting lists.

Anyone is not a good answer. Name someone specific please.

Ooh! Pick me!
Translator:3
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 18 2011 05:31 GMT
#845
On May 18 2011 14:29 bumatlarge wrote:
I will carry the ring into mordor!

What will be your mode of transportation?
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 18 2011 05:32 GMT
#846
On May 18 2011 14:27 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:26 Ace wrote:
On May 18 2011 14:23 Incognito wrote:
Any of the single voter lists should be investigated. M2DT should investigate the Kavdragon lynch. I'll investigate the Barundar list once Mr. Inventory gives me a list check kit.


If there is anyone that shouldn't be getting an investigation kit, it's you. You are on the Kavdragon lynch list.

And you are on the Incognito list. Who do you suggest we actually give this kit to?



What's wrong with being on the Incognito list? I don't see how Kav flipping town proves you're a townie.
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 18 2011 05:37 GMT
#847
On May 18 2011 14:32 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:27 Incognito wrote:
On May 18 2011 14:26 Ace wrote:
On May 18 2011 14:23 Incognito wrote:
Any of the single voter lists should be investigated. M2DT should investigate the Kavdragon lynch. I'll investigate the Barundar list once Mr. Inventory gives me a list check kit.


If there is anyone that shouldn't be getting an investigation kit, it's you. You are on the Kavdragon lynch list.

And you are on the Incognito list. Who do you suggest we actually give this kit to?



What's wrong with being on the Incognito list? I don't see how Kav flipping town proves you're a townie.

Because from my point of view, I know I'm a townie. Anyone else is either a) likely to die, or b) not certain townie. The conditions for receiving a list check kit is it must be a townie, and they must not die, otherwise it fails.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 18 2011 05:39 GMT
#848
On May 18 2011 14:30 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2011 14:28 Ace wrote:
Anyone not on the Barundar or Kavdragon voting lists.

Anyone is not a good answer. Name someone specific please.


Don't feel like it.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 18 2011 05:42 GMT
#849
Fine. Good Night, see you all tomorrow.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 18 2011 06:03 GMT
#850
honestly kav getting lynched would be hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly dumb for any of you to vote for him. I mean come on, nearly exactly this happened last game.
:3
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 18 2011 07:16 GMT
#851
Well I miscalculated the night post and wrote my will 1½ instead of ½ an hour before lynch. In the meantime someone goes and switch the lynch to a third person. GG, would have been better to let me hang so you could go after suspicious votes on me like KillerSOS and Kitaman.
Bartundar
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 18 2011 07:21 GMT
#852
On May 18 2011 16:16 Barundar wrote:
Well I miscalculated the night post and wrote my will 1½ instead of ½ an hour before lynch. In the meantime someone goes and switch the lynch to a third person. GG, would have been better to let me hang so you could go after suspicious votes on me like KillerSOS and Kitaman.

You mean we can't do that now?
Translator:3
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 18 2011 07:23 GMT
#853
I'd assume I would be 10 x as suspicious.
Bartundar
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 18 2011 07:31 GMT
#854
Ok then, here's my thoughts for tonight:

Role-Checks:

These are the people who, at the moment, it would be a good idea to check their role. If scum got any of the first queue spots, they're likely to have taken a strong scum role from the no-pick list.

Flamewheel
Scamp
Caller
Barundar
Radfield
GMarshal

Alignment Checks:

These are the people I find somewhat suspicious, or who it would be nice to have an alignment check on.

Barundar
Node
Tnkted
Incognito
Radfield
Ace

Vig-Hit:

Deconduo

I'm thinking he's VI, maybe mafia Hero, either way he isn't helping town, and I don't want to waste a lynch on him later. Debatable.

Medic list:

These are the people I think ought to be protected. Either they're acting pro-town already, or have good potential to help town day 2.

Caller
bumatlarge
Radfield
Incognito
Flamewheel
Foolishness

This is just a summary of my thoughts at the moment. Disagree? Want to add? Just cause it's night doesn't mean we need to shut up.
you gotta dance
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
May 18 2011 07:46 GMT
#855
Alignment Checks:

These are the people I find somewhat suspicious, or who it would be nice to have an alignment check on.

Barundar
Node
Tnkted
Incognito
Radfield
Ace

I'd add suspicious votes to the list and remove node and tnkted.

From the 3 different band wagons, these are the 3 people I am most suspicious of:

GMarshal: does a complete turn around from: none of the lynches are good -->Kavdragon
KillerSOS: vote in the vote thread, but no explanation in thread. Complaints about Kav mislynch but have been completely silent up until that point. Definition of reading thread without posting.
Chaoser: Votes incog without much explanation.

Only reason for mafia to come out in numbers for this lynch would be if incognito is mafia. Kav flipped green and I'm green as well. Meaning if incognito is also green, the majority of mafia would have no reason to involve themselves in the lynch.

In that case I would be looking the most at people with placeholder votes (only 1 vote):
Kurumi
Eiii
Mr.Wiggles
Scamp
OriginalName

Eiii seemed way too active during the lynch to define his vote as a placeholder. Kurumi is most likely sleeping, and did a decent analysis on me. So of those 3, Wiggles, Scamp and OriginalName stand out the most to me.
Bartundar
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 18 2011 08:30 GMT
#856
Information Checks:
chaoser
Fishball
Chezinu
kitaman27
Dreamflower
Foolishness
Caller
Scamp
Flamewheel
Ace

It doesn't matter whether it is role or alignment. We need some information on these people.

Vig Hits:
KillerSOS

He either makes irrelevant posts, shoots down people's ideas, or spreads doubt. Gloats after the lynch, but does nothing to stop it.

Medic list. It should read:

Radfield
GMarshal

Besides myself, nobody is really taking the spotlight. This is pretty disappointing. It probably means the mafia is content with the way things are going right now. The people posting night action lists are looking pretty good right now.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 18 2011 10:19 GMT
#857
So much for 100% eh Incog....

On the bright side, this lynch hopefully gives us oodles of information down the line, once incog and Barundars alignment flips. On another bright note, Incognito won't get targeted by mafia tonight, so in the event he is town he'll probably survive the night. Unless of course a townie shoots him, but if that's the case so be it.

Mr. Wiggles, I very much disagree with your rolecheck list. There is a list of roles in this game that no townie should be caught dead with, so we want to use our rolechecks to try and ascertain alignment. Checking the people at the top of the list gives us very little information regarding their alignment. The top 6/7 all have an excellent excuse(whether legit or not) for taking an anti-town role. No one else on the list has that excuse. Anyone with a role check should be looking at whomever they think is scummy lower down on the list. If they have a scummy role(a role on the no-pick list) then they're probably mafia.

I really hope someone does an alignment check on Barundar. Even setting aside my suspicions, he was assigned caller gf or cpr doc, so knowing his alignment is very important.

Other players worth an alignment check:
Flamewheel
Infinitestory?
Incognito
Mr. Wiggles
Chaoser
dreamflower

Players worth some medic protection:
Radfield
Bum
Caller
Ace - probably won't get picked off though
foolishness - if town he likely has a defensive role anyways
GMarshall - there are heaps of suspicion on him, so he is unlikely to get hit
Scamp, as inventor, should get a skiff of medic protection


Anyone else dying wouldn't be terrible at this point.

I'd like to stress that flamewheel doesn't belong on any medic lists, or townie lists. He has done very little to contribute to the town this game. Besides, assuming he is telling the truth about JOAT, I'm pretty sure he can protect himself if he wants to.

Inventor(Scamp) should be passing the vote-list checks either to whomever they have the strongest pro-town read on.

Chaoser, despite finishing his interviews(his pre-tuesday excuse) still ended up contributing basically zero to the discussion. Simply popped in and voted Incog. Pick it up Chaoser.

+ Show Spoiler +
Incog, you fooled me the first game I ever played. I was sure you were pro-town, but instead you dominated town, took control, and lead mafia to victory with about 5 members left over. Something flamewheel hosted... XXI maybe?

+ Show Spoiler +

On May 18 2011 13:03 Kavdragon wrote:
Also, since I won't be able to post this after my death: All newer players, please take note of the fact that Incog, Ace, and Caller all read me wrong. Vet's are not as good as anyone thinks, including themselves. The only thing you should be afraid of is their egos.

Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
May 18 2011 10:41 GMT
#858
GMarshal, Node, and Flamewheel need to explain their last-second voting of KavDragon.
Cheese is good for you!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 18 2011 10:44 GMT
#859
On May 18 2011 19:41 Scamp wrote:
GMarshal, Node, and Flamewheel need to explain their last-second voting of KavDragon.


I'm stupid, I re-read callers argument and it seemed compelling, I found myself agreeing with his points, so I changed my vote. I was wrong. Lesson learned, don't lynch kav day 1. I'm happy to be DT/Vigid or whatever, I made a seriously stupid mistake, and feel like a moron now.

So yeah, if anyone with a gun blows my brains out I won't be holding it against them.

*derp*
Moderator
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
May 18 2011 10:57 GMT
#860
Ace, your attack of the Barundar train is silly given the fact that Kav flipped town. Basically what you're saying is that Barundar was an easy target for mafia to lump in on. That makes no sense, since they(we) were given an excellent opportunity to vote for Kavdragon instead, who flipped town. Anyone who needed a place to vote could have been 'persuaded' to vote Kav at any time.

Now, that being said, the Barundar vote was the initial 2nd choice to voting for Incognito, so if by chance mafia were attempting to save Incog, then Barundar would have been the place to vote. However, if you're looking at votes to save Incog, it's the three that came down the stretch for Kav that did it. NO votes came down the stretch for Barundar(except for Foolishness, a valiant effort, but a failed one).

Bumatlarge. Where were you(I don't mean this literally)? You vehemently defended Kavdragon early on, but completely disappeared for 6 hours, despite the heat growing considerably on him, only to pop in 1 minute after the day post to apologize. You never once pushed for Barundar, a player who was a viable alternative to Kav.

On May 18 2011 14:25 bumatlarge wrote:
Are you guys honestly trying to pin this as kav's fault? You guys are all awful, Im 100x better then all of you. Excuse me while I net us some scum.

No need to be aggressive when you did so little to stop it from happening. In other news, I look forward to you netting us scum.
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