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On May 21 2011 10:08 Eiii wrote:
I honestly have no clue where the node votes are coming from. Maybe that's because I read through the thread too fast, but even looking back at his posts individually I don't see anything out of place. Could people voting for node give like a two sentence explanation of why he's scum because I really can't come up with anything on my end..
1.) Strange focus on what combinations mafia might use to break the town
2.) Lack of contribution, he has two major things across four posts, shooting down my denial plan and "analyzing" foolishness and reaching the conclusion that he is lurking
3.) No attempt to defend himself, or make his analysis stick
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Wiggles, just shoot Node. Do it. Do it for me. For the town. For the cats in top hats. For everyone who we seek to protect from the ravages of the mafia. Do it because you have a 40% chance of getting it right. 
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On May 21 2011 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'm looking for a dead scum.
You're not mafia (This would be the stupidest play in the history of mafia if you were) so why should I kill you?
This. Times a thousand. When you shoot into my list you do so to kill scum, not to clear town, not to summon genies, you do it to kill scum.
I think I need to hammer this into peoples heads. This is not about who writes the fanciest analysis or who has the sanest plan for a town victory, this is about killing scum, plain and simple.
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GMarshal's List
So, I'm pretty much resigned to dying tonight. I'm checking the KillerSOS list ofc, which should clear up things significantly, assuming I live, but the mafia are going to be shooting me tonight.
So, going player by player and posting my opinions/thoughts on them.
1.bumatlarge- A townie fair and square, his posts ooze greeness, not a single one stick out to me as having an anti-town mindset. The only thing is that he pointed out that the traitor role might be fun, suggesting to me that he might have taken it, be wary if he makes it into the late game, but until then he is a town asset.
2.Foolishness- He is giving me flashbacks to PYP1, which is a *bad* thing, he is supposed to be a powerful town asset, but so far he has yet to do anything for the town, other than express frustration at how bad we are. He either needs to step up his posting or someone should shoot him already. Dont let him lurk till day 7 or something retarded like that please.
3.kitaman27- Lurking scum. Someone needs to take a nice noose to his neck, because he is playing his textbook mafia style
4.Chaoser- step up your game man. You are done with interviews and shit, so if you are town you need to start helping us. Now. Otherwise I'd be sure you're scum. I trust bum to keep an eye on you and force you to contribute.
5. Barundar -Another obvious townie, I'm surprised he hasn't had an anurism yet. Keep trying to steer the town down the right road buddy. His attempt at vote consolidation and general frustration at us point him to be a townie.
6.Mr.Wiggles- all of his posts seem to me to be at least trying to help the town, I wish he'd analyze more, but at this stage of the game I think he is pretty green
7.GMarshal -me. Blue. Duh
8.Node- was convinced he was scum, I'm no longer as sure, his inventions will be his downfall if he is scum.
9. Deconduo – I feel like he has been lurking outside of his “lynch me” thingy. Most likely town, but I need to see more from him...
10.Infinitestory- Townish feel, he has a town shape to his posts. He could be mafia, but I doubt it. I'm open to seeing some solid analysis about him though
12. tnkted- unsure, could go either way with him, none of his posts really stick out in my mind, so worth a DT check. If he took the busdriver then lynch him, no further questions asked.
14. Radfield- town, is the general feel I get from his posts. If I live I'm open to rethinking it, but a read through his posts shows a solid attempt to lead the town and hunt scum
15. Kurumi- newbie town, unless he has expert coaching, kind of lurkerish, but almost certainly town.
17. Eiii- gave himself away earlier as I pointed out. He is mafia.
18. Meapak_ziphh- His posts ooze towniness, I tried looking for a scummy one, and couldn't find one.
20. Incognito- insane and disruptive. Absolutely town, scum don't play with such conviction and determination, the kind of fuckups he's led show him to be town. The mafia just isn't that reckless.
21. Chezinu- he is fucking Chezinu. I wish I could get a read on him. Whoever tied him to foolishness has a wicked sense of humor.
23. Ace- he is scum, and whatever he may say, he dosn't have a gun, or he would have used it already. When Incog flips green, someone should shoot him. Twice for good measure.
24. Caller- Town and a more than decent analyst. None of his posts are saliently scummy, and volunteering to die if he is mafia is ballsy as hell.
25. Fishball- goes from useless to more useful, makes me think he is town as this is the trait of a solid late game town player, who avoids the mafia's attention and then comes up with some solid contributions.
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Sorry for the late post guys, I checked the Incognito list.
1 of Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, Barundar is scum. The rest are townies, or cleverly disguised mafia.
My bet is chaoser
Take this as a "fuck you" mafia for not killing me. Now I have to substantiate all that stuff I said in what was supposed to be my last post.
Oh and ##Vote: Caller
The list has spoken.
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On May 22 2011 15:15 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2011 15:12 GMarshal wrote:
Sorry for the late post guys, I checked the Incognito list.
1 of Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, Barundar is scum. The rest are townies, or cleverly disguised mafia.
My bet is chaoser
Take this as a "fuck you" mafia for not killing me. Now I have to substantiate all that stuff I said in what was supposed to be my last post.
Oh and ##Vote: Caller
The list has spoken. uhh, do you mean Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, bumatlarge, Caller, Chezinu, KillerSOS or perhaps Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, bumatlarge, Caller or was the list heavily tinkered with?
Day 1 incognito list. I should have been clearer
INCOGNITO (5): Ace, infinitestory, Foolishness, Chaoser, Barundar
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Well, this is amusing. Is it clear that I am telling the truth now?
Also we now know what the rose tinted glasses did, they let someone vote check and whoever got them checked the KillerSOS list.
All that said we've caught a mafia
everything else can wait.
##Unvote
##Vote: tnkted
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On May 23 2011 04:52 infinitestory wrote:
GM, were you indeed targeted and saved? You should have gotten a notification if so.
No. Now lynch that lying scum. I would have immediately claimed had I taken a hit.
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On May 23 2011 06:18 deconduo wrote:
Well its pretty clear that we caught one scum anyway. I'm just curious as to why the DT that checked him hasn't been pushing for his lynch.
I think it was Baundar's Caller Godfather "traitor" ability, used for the good of the town. Meaning that we don't really have an alignment DT.
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On May 23 2011 08:07 infinitestory wrote:
Oh, in that case we do have a living Alignment DT! :D happy news
^_^
Can I request he check Caller tonight? If he finds him town he should let us know, so we know there is a framer at play. If he is scum then we can trust our list checks to be mostly reliable, at least at finding scum. If the DT would rather do something else then we probably have no choice but to lynch Caller tomorrow, which I would rather not do, as lynches for information are terrible play.
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On May 24 2011 23:24 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2011 23:12 Radfield wrote:
So if there were 6 original mafia and we can assume they wouldn't double pick numbers, 3 of these are part of the remaining mafia, and Foolishness and bum both can't be scum. GMarshal, Radfield are fairly clear imo, and I know I'm not mafia. Eiii was cleared by IS, but he could be GF.
This is a bad assumption I think. We already know that scum collided their numbers at least once. Either Chez/Kurumi, or Chez/Tnkted(we don't know if chez was 4 or 9). Hunting scum based on numbers is an ineffective strategy. I've said it before, but if I had been mafia this game, I would have pushed to either double up or triple up on numbers with scum. Frankly, I think it's the reason there are so many 9's(Chez, Ace and Kurumi all take 9). Either way, Caller should be vigged tonight if we have one.
I agree with this.
I'd also really like it if a rolecop could verify chaoser's claim.
As to all other DT actions, the risk of the framing godfather means we can't direct them. I trust them to do what they must. I'm considering saving my list check tonight and using a rolecheck instead. Thoughts?
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On May 25 2011 10:21 Radfield wrote:
I think Ace is about to get fucked.
^_^
That would narrow down the number of scum we need to kill. At worst it would make me reconsider my reads.
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Sorry Caller, but you have a DT check proving you red. And a condemning list. I see no way you could be town. The only thing that confuses me is how the hell you could be vanilla. Unless you tried for inventor or something.
##Vote: Caller
Now would be a good time to claim.
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Also, whats up with the unaccounted for KP? Do we have a vigi or something, I mean I know Bum killed Ace, and the mafia killed someone, but that leaves one kill hanging. Do we have a vigilante? Or is the mafia mole a vigilante or other kp role?
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On May 25 2011 20:26 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2011 19:53 GMarshal wrote:
Sorry Caller, but you have a DT check proving you red. And a condemning list. I see no way you could be town. The only thing that confuses me is how the hell you could be vanilla. Unless you tried for inventor or something.
##Vote: Caller
Now would be a good time to claim. Did you make a check last night?
I rolechecked foolishness, I'm saving the last list check for todays vote.
I'm not going to reveal what he returned, only that the remaining mafia should probably worry.
(Or maybe I'm playing mindgames, who knows! ^_^)
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On May 25 2011 22:46 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh here's an idea, wiggles checked the NRA member? That would explain why it triggered, and it would be a likely pick for town. Still don't know what LAT, the initials hes been putting in his posts, refer to. So maybe everyone should announce their checks just before night ends, so we may get somewhere. they would have to say it last second though, so mafia cant mess with the process. Righty?
My guess is last and third word of every sentence, but I haven't gotten anywhere with that.
Your NRA theory is interesting, my only concern is that a townie would do better to take methman than NRA member, as the NRA member makes punishes detectives as well as mafia.
Should we encourage this person to claim? Or do we want mafia to run afoul of his rifle? Also, why are you discarding the possibility of a mafia vigilante? I think that would be a role mafia would not mind picking up, especially considering the fact that they have a piddling one kp.
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On May 04 2011 03:27 Ver wrote:
Mole:
You are a townie...wait a minute. Initially given a normal townie role, but mafia is given his identity. After Night 2 ends, the mole receives his “Mole” role and mafia list. Mafia cannot PM him and he cannot PM mafia until he is formally inducted (day 3). There may be any number of moles.
Mepak, moles were induced yesterday, not today.
But you have a point, my past lists are rendered unreliable, and we can only judge actions that took place *after* the end of night 2 to judge people, as any previous town behavior might be due to the insidious nature of the mole. I'm pretty sure that the only clear townie at the moment is bum for having shot Ace, which he would not have done were he mafia. The rest of us must be judged on our behavior over the past day and night.
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On May 26 2011 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
The lack of discussion is killing us. Once Caller dies we literally have no plan.
I agree, theres no way for us to find the mole if we don't have activity and such to help us pin down scummy people.
So, let me open this to discussion, what list should I be checking with my last listcheck? Should we consider a mass roleclaim now that we are approaching the endgame, or should we hold out on that?
Lastly who of the remaining players do you think is most likely to be scum?
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Yes, but you being bulletproof proves? Role =/= alignment, roles are all about how you use them, a DT reporting results of red proves he isn't mafia. A bp who dosn't take hits? Proves nothing, its non-conclusive. While I agree that Ace's attack on you makes you seem more town, that could be the intent, in fact if you are the mole then Ace's actions make perfect sense, cast doubt on you so that later when he dies you look better. Do I think its likely? No, I don't. but at this point in the game we cannot afford to discard possibilities. Not if we want to stand a chance of winning.
As for who I want to lynch tomorrow, kita and Eiii are both targets that merit consideration, both are heavy inactives that are going to be hellish to analyze later on, as they have few posts. Foolishness, I'm glad to see you stepping up your game.
As far as my list check, I'm considering using it on todays vote list to see how many mafia we have to worry about. Do people find this idea agreeable?
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On May 27 2011 04:40 Foolishness wrote:
As long as deconduo said he took bulletproof there's little point in arguing about it. If Radfield is indeed the mole, why would Ace check him night 1? That doesn't seem to add up so I think Radfield is in the clear.
And I agree that GMarshal should check an old list in an attempt to narrow down the remaining mafia. If we could confirm 3 people or show that the mafia is in a pool of 3 people it'll make it that much easier for us.
Also, Infinitestory said Eiii is the "same" as him. Wasn't this on day 3 when he would have turned up "different" if Eiii was mafia?
Completely forgot about that tbh >_____>
nvm then Eiii is in the clear.
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