• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:48
CET 17:48
KST 01:48
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !8Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
When will we find out if there are more tournament ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months screp: Command line app to parse SC rep files BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
PC Games Sales Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1878 users

Pick Your Power Insane! - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 18:26 GMT
#399
I think we can easily get more pro-town inventions if we think outside the box. e.g.:
A robotic dog which can seek out gunpowder. If given to a person with a gun, it'll sneeze all night and notify everyone. If not, the person gets a onetime Bullet Bill check.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 18:27 GMT
#400
On May 16 2011 03:24 Fishball wrote:
I like an item that reveals the number of moles in the game, the only unknown variable.

This might not mean anything, but I think every time moles are referenced in the OP, it's "the mole," singular.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 18:42 GMT
#408
On May 16 2011 03:35 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 03:26 infinitestory wrote:
I think we can easily get more pro-town inventions if we think outside the box. e.g.:
A robotic dog which can seek out gunpowder. If given to a person with a gun, it'll sneeze all night and notify everyone. If not, the person gets a onetime Bullet Bill check.



The key is not to find pro-town inventions per se, but rather to find pro-town inventions which are unambiguous. A robotic dog could kill a player when they try to use it, a broadcast tower could send a signal to explode a bomb inside a vest that the inventor handed out, etc.

Anyways, this is all likely moot, as a townie inventor will probably get roleblocked, and a mafia inventor will just not invent, and claim they got roleblocked.

Anyways, we have plenty of time to talk about this, as we have over 72 hours before the inventor has to invent. However, we do need to discuss the pro-town role list, and the 'no pick' list. Is there anything that doesn't belong, or should belong, on those lists??


I've said before that Copy Cat is potentially pro-town. We also had a long discussion about the masonic role which deemed that Agent of Chaos and Recruiting Mason aren't very good choices for mafia, even if used together.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 22:11 GMT
#424
Are you allowed to pay the Dirty Cop $150 to say whether he's mafia, and if so, must he answer truthfully?
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 22:14 GMT
#426
On May 16 2011 07:13 bumatlarge wrote:
Well considering you are Ace, I'd think you tell town you were mafia before anyone got close to that, just to brag.

what if i ask on day 1
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 15 2011 22:20 GMT
#427
On May 16 2011 07:10 Incognito wrote:
Whoever gets Bad Santa should choose

Ace
Flamewheel
Foolishness
Dreamflower
Incognito

why
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 04:45 GMT
#447
I've received my PM.

Just a random thought: Should people claim if they asked for a role and didn't get it? (Have people done this in past PYPs?)
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 05:21 GMT
#454
On May 16 2011 14:20 Incognito wrote:
Flamewheel please nuke GMarshal. Thanks.

##Vote Kurumi

What the fuck?
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 06:06 GMT
#460
On May 16 2011 14:45 flamewheel wrote:
Hrm.
Kurumi... what was your second number pick?

y has nukes bro?
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 06:58 GMT
#466
On May 16 2011 15:43 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2011 17:40 Barundar wrote:
updated list:

1. Flamewheel
2. Scamp [7][11]
3. Caller [10][4]
4. Barundar [13][1]
5. Radfield
6. GMarshal [17][2]
7. Deconduo
8. Foolishness [1][x]
9. bumatlarge [1][18]
10. Kavdragon [2][1]
11. Chaoser [2][2]
12. Fishball [5][3]
13. KillerSOS [5][11]
14. Eiii [6][7]
15. Infinitestory [6][10]
16. Dreamflower [4][1]
17. Mr.Wiggles [4][x]
18. Original Name[4][6]
19. tnkted [4][12]
20. Chezinu
21. Ace [9][11]
22. Kurumi [9][x]
23. Incognito[9][x]
24. Node [9][1]
25. kitaman27 [9][1]


Anyone else that didn't claim numbers should soon. I'm surprised no one has made a big deal about number clashing yet like in PYP 1. With so many unique numbers at the top and a bunch of clashes from 16 on down I think focusing our investigations into the clashing sets is a good start.

We somewhat have an idea of what should be in the top slots so if any bad actions that were already discussed happen we know where to look.

It's possible that Incog + Flamewheel have noticed something about Kurumi's numbers, judging from the posts at the end of page 23.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 08:07 GMT
#475
On May 16 2011 16:33 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 15:06 infinitestory wrote:
On May 16 2011 14:45 flamewheel wrote:
Hrm.
Kurumi... what was your second number pick?

y has nukes bro?

I don't, though my patriotism runs strong. Caller, your comment about Radfield not anti-American is gold, by the way.

Interestingly enough, we could theoretically hunt out an America by having everybody type a nuke command in the thread, though it's not really worth it right now...

Wait, why is this not worth it? o_o
Is nuking yourself a valid option as America?


On May 16 2011 14:20 Incognito wrote:
Flamewheel please nuke GMarshal. Thanks.

##Vote Kurumi

1) FW said he doesn't have nukes.

2) I checked GMarshal's posts. He looks at Hero, Pardoner, and Cupid, but before alignment PMs are sent out. He asks for an exact role assignment pre-pick, which I admittedly do not like, and (perhaps coincidentally) position 6 is assigned Thief. He also makes a "threat list" which puts Chuiu Jack as pro-mafia and Vote Rigger as pro-town. I didn't look at anything deeply, but there are certainly some noteworthy flaws in logic.

3) A cursory (very cursory) inspection of Kurumi's posts revealed nothing in particular. There is a similar pattern of "not post very much, a couple medium posts and more short posts, not a lot of content in general" to KillerSOS and Node.



On May 16 2011 17:03 Scamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2011 16:36 Node wrote:
On May 16 2011 16:17 Scamp wrote:
On May 16 2011 16:15 KillerSOS wrote:
I also believe that clashes in numbers won't be that useful this early in the game. I'm sure that the mafia are smart enough to grab some top slots, while at the same time randomizing the other half of their members.


Why are you so sure, hmmmm?

Also are you suggesting we should be looking at at least one person who picked a low first number?


Basically, mafia could be anywhere on the list, and it would be foolish to assume that we can find mafia based on the numbers that are picked until we've actually deduced a pattern by killing mafia. The only thing that's even remotely safe to say is that mafia numbers probably wouldn't overlap, but even then that's pure WIFOM.

Also, since Kurumi is the first person to get a vote, I'll say what I think of him. In TL Mafia XXXIX he got lynched day 1 because his posts were often confusing due to his lack of English skills and then even if you did figure out what he was trying to say it had little to no bearing on the game. That time, he was a townie.

I do think after that experience he's smart enough to not do the same thing again, but just be aware that even though Kurumi can be confusing at times, it's not necessarily an indication that he's scum. Let's try to look for the intentions behind his posts instead. I would like to hear his thoughts now that roles have been handed out.


Why did you answer a question that was asked of someone else?

He didn't. Node was actually disagreeing with KillerSOS's assumption of where mafia would pick numbers.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 08:44 GMT
#478
Voting for Incognito since

I don't think we ever got an explanation for the accusation on KillerSOS (please correct me if I'm wrong).

+ random accusation on GMarshal and a vote on Kurumi with no backup either.

+ asking FW to nuke shit, although FW says he doesn't have any

= me confused and suspicious.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 23:29 GMT
#567
On May 17 2011 07:15 Ace wrote:
why do you keep panhandling to Flamewheel? Let him do his own thing. How are you even so sure he picked America?

I asked this back on page 23. No response (as far as I saw). That's one of the biggest reasons my vote is on Incognito.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 16 2011 23:49 GMT
#574
On May 17 2011 08:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 08:44 deconduo wrote:
On May 17 2011 08:31 kitaman27 wrote:
deconduo
-Announces he will select the "fun role" rather than following any set plan
-Makes no comments on the set-up, but promises to play "pro-town" later on
-Claims to choose his numbers in order to appear at the middle/end of the draft
-Publicly informs that he is considering traitor and VI. Then mentions that traitor is "too risk". Why does he find it necessary to inform us that he is considering taking a role mafia would never pick?
-Weirdly defends Fishball above

He has my vote for now. I'll post more later.



Actually I think lynching me isn;t a bad idea. I have a feeling I'm a mole. Also I didn't get any role so I don't mind too much.


Is this where we're supposed to say "don't lynch him, he's the village idiot!"?

sounds more like unabated apathy to me

Deconduo, did you ask for an extreme anti-town role like you said you would?
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 17 2011 00:03 GMT
#578
On May 17 2011 07:04 Incognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
We can only check one list at a time, and while checking a small list is much more helpful, I see no reason why the voterigger needs to get involved to create one. If he messes with the votes, then we lose most of the information we would have gotten from the voting that cycle.


Also we can check more than one list at a time.

I highly doubt this is true.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 17 2011 00:19 GMT
#587
On May 17 2011 09:18 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2011 09:16 Kavdragon wrote:
My gut reaction is to call Decon's bluff and lynch him. I think that he's obviously implying that he's the village idiot, but I doubt that he actually is. More likely he's mafia just trying to avoid a day one lynch.

That being said, I think that the more reasonable course of action is to ignore him for now.


If I was planning to pick VI I would hardly start off by saying 'I think I'll pick VI'

I really am just a normal townie.

Let's drop the WIFOM.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 17 2011 02:25 GMT
#611
On May 17 2011 11:05 flamewheel wrote:
I lost my post in the power outage today, though at this point it doesn't really matter. We'll come back to numbers and the draft order after the first round of deaths have gone through.

A couple things to note right now. Unlike in TL Mafia XXXI, the Village Idiot does not end the game when lynched. The journalist power can also only be used once per cycle. So deconduo is pretty much being useless right now. Check him or shoot him at night if you're not going to lynch him now. Or lynch him--who cares?

Also, I'm so glad nukes are public. Let me prove I'm not America.

##Nuke: infinitestory

When no nuke kills my fellow staff member at the end of the day, we'll all be happy. Actually, that's not true. If somebody hypothetically had actually chosen America, they could launch the same nuke. Good luck with that, though--I can check and then shoot anybody foolish enough to do that in the following nights.

Now just let me do my thing and check, protect, and/or shoot people at night.

And I'm wondering if Ace and I noticed the same thing.

:O

If someone else tries to nuke me, they'll have to type it in anyway >_>
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#612
On May 17 2011 10:31 Eiii wrote:
Oh man, decon just made himself the perfect placeholder vote candidate. Or maybe even a good lynch candidate! :D

You need to post more gems like this.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 17 2011 03:04 GMT
#616
On May 17 2011 11:42 dreamflower wrote:
Also, I don't understand the case against Incognito either. Foolishness voted to lynch him because he wasn't being aggressive enough, but at least he had a reason, however shaky it seems; Incognito isn't playing the same as he did in one game when he was town. Now Ace seems to be voting for Incognito because he was being too aggressive and pointed a finger at someone. I may be missing something, but I don't see how merely being the first to accuse someone qualifies you as Mafia. Ace isn't even criticizing his idea of using rigged votes and votechecks or otherwise using heated, fervent arguments showing how Incognito's actions have been "total bullshit." He just became another finger-pointer based off one post, much like the people he was denigrating earlier.

Not just one post. Incognito's made a good number of odd posts:
1) He mentioned specifically that he didn't have enough time to get deeply involved in the game, and yet
2) He seems to be doing enough analysis to accuse KillerSOS out of nowhere, ask for a hit on GMarshal, then vote Kurumi without any logic (and change to Chaoser based on some logic)
3) He doesn't back up his accusation on KillerSOS at all. This is like, 48 hours ago or something like that.
4) He asks Flamewheel to nuke GMarshal, and FW is pretty confident that he's not America.
Translator:3
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
May 17 2011 03:33 GMT
#618
On May 17 2011 12:29 Kavdragon wrote:
In general i think that only mafia have something to fear from people applying pressure, as townies will be judged by their reactions. Incog telling pointing fingers and telling FW to nuke is exactly the sort of thing that generates discussion and information on people.

do you realize that there is no way Incog could have known Flamewheel had America unless they were communicating outside of thread, + it looks like Incog is even wrong about it. That's not generating discussion, that's just distracting people, fishing for a claim, putting unreasonable suspicion on fw, etc.
Translator:3
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
14:00
King of the Hill #234
SteadfastSC60
Liquipedia
WardiTV 2025
11:00
Playoffs
ShoWTimE vs CureLIVE!
WardiTV1816
ComeBackTV 1031
TaKeTV 535
IndyStarCraft 258
Rex139
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko554
IndyStarCraft 258
RotterdaM 245
Rex 139
Liquid`VortiX 97
SteadfastSC 60
BRAT_OK 33
MindelVK 17
DivinesiaTV 11
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 24058
Calm 3315
Bisu 2267
Rain 1683
actioN 775
Horang2 714
Stork 552
Shuttle 338
Larva 164
firebathero 148
[ Show more ]
Mini 134
Hyun 123
Mind 93
JYJ 68
Zeus 64
Aegong 49
Killer 40
JulyZerg 33
Mong 29
Shinee 22
910 21
soO 16
GoRush 15
Yoon 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
sorry 13
SilentControl 7
Sacsri 7
Dota 2
Gorgc6238
singsing4528
qojqva3154
LuMiX1
Super Smash Bros
Westballz17
Other Games
B2W.Neo1737
hiko563
crisheroes400
FrodaN351
KnowMe200
XaKoH 173
Trikslyr60
Chillindude47
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• poizon28 28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis4765
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
12m
YoungYakov vs Jumy
TriGGeR vs Spirit
RotterdaM245
The PiG Daily
4h 12m
SHIN vs ByuN
Reynor vs Classic
TBD vs herO
Maru vs SHIN
TBD vs Classic
CranKy Ducklings
17h 12m
WardiTV 2025
18h 12m
Reynor vs MaxPax
SHIN vs TBD
Solar vs herO
Classic vs TBD
SC Evo League
19h 42m
Ladder Legends
1d 2h
BSL 21
1d 3h
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 17h
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.