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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4340 Posts
May 13 2011 02:47 GMT
#1881
LOOOOOOL ok I'm absolutely convinced now. Huge post coming just before daybreak
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4340 Posts
May 13 2011 02:48 GMT
#1882
Day is at 11pm EST yes?
Sucker for nostalgia
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 13 2011 02:51 GMT
#1883
9 minutes yes
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 13 2011 02:55 GMT
#1884
Alright, I got some shit to do tonight, so I'm going to post my scum/town list now.

Scum

Sinani206
I've already said why multiple times, but I'll say it again.
-He's not contributing
-He's using inexperience as an excuse
-He wasn't lynched because of a bandwagon on a townie. Because this lynch was so close, this makes him even more suspicious.

ilovejonn
I'm not sure about him, but he's been relatively suspicious. He's worth checking out after lynching Sinani

orgolove
I disagree with his methods, and to me his data seems tailored not to point out actual scum. Again, somebody to check out after Sinani. Could just be a townie who I disagree with though, not sure.

Apart from these, I don't have very good scumreads on anybody else. The only solid read I've got is on Sinani.

Town

Sandroba
Pretty much got confirmed when Amber[LighT] flipped, iirc

DropBear
Aggressively analyzing, admitting his mistakes, overall good town play.

Cthsazsa
There's no way that both he and Amber were scum.

Kenpachi
vigi. 'nuff said.

I don't have time right now to post what I think about each player. I'm sure I'm forgetting some people.

If I die tonight, lynch Sinani. Don't argue, don't try to find a better target, just lynch Sinani.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
May 13 2011 02:58 GMT
#1885
Current reads:

People I trust as town:
25. kitaman27 - Myself, though that's for you to decide :p
11. Kenpachi - vig, confirmed town
1. sandroba - 95% confirmed town for pushing Amber day two
26. Cthsazsa - 95% confirmed town for the tight day two lynch against Amber

Likely town
6. AirbladeOrange - irish voted for him day one so leaning town
13. Mig - Hasn't done anything this game that jumps out as a scum tell
16. Forumite - Only thing against him is the Amber lynch, otherwise looks pretty clean

Null reads:
4. Conversion - Lurking hard. Doesn't even vote in the last cycle.
7. VarpuliS - Not certain one way or the other
10. elmizzt - Another lurker. I have to keep reminding myself he is part of the game.
14. orgolove - Had a weird moment last night, but putting a lot of effort in with spreadsheet
20. redtooth - Was suspicious of him initially, but he has disappeared off the face of the earth the last day cycle.

Scum Suspects
9. sinani206 - priority lynch target tomorrow for obvious reasons
2. jaminz - godfather suspect (refer to earlier analysis)
3. ilovejonn - based on his attempts to convince people he is town and lack of contribution (refer to earlier analysis)

Secondary Scum Suspects
23. Impervious - Few posts to go on based on the double replacement. Came out looking bad after the sinani lynch. I might consider swapping him with ilovejonn.
17. DropBear - On the wrong side of the first two lynches and role claims at a weird time. Thoughts might change based on the analysis he is promising before the day post.
21. chaos13 - Defends irish day one and then appears apologetic, votes for Cthsazsa day two
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4340 Posts
May 13 2011 02:58 GMT
#1886
I'm probably unlikely to get killed tonight, I've been wrong way too many times. But just in case, here goes. This may change depending on who dies tonight.

+ Show Spoiler [Lists of doom from chaoser, orgolove a…] +
Chaoser's list of doom:
On May 09 2011 12:12 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2011 08:50 GMarshal wrote:

Cthsazsa (10)
Conversion
redtooth
Varpulis
ilovejonn
Forumite
Lyter
kitaman27
GGQ
AO
Eternalmisfit

Amber[light] (6)
chaoser
sandroba
chaos13
Kenpachi
Mig
orgolove


And also Sinani


Chaoser's Mafia List:
Irish
Amber
sinani
ilovejohn
GGQ
EternalMisfit

I will explain why each of them are as such

He actually forgot me. I was on the Cthazsa train as well, I voted late in defense of Amber.

Orgolove's list of doom
On May 12 2011 12:47 orgolove wrote:
Sure.

My list of suspects remains the same.

  • DropBear
  • ilovejonn
  • AirbladeOrange
  • Varpulis


Kita's list of doom
On May 11 2011 12:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Here are my two preferred lynch candidates for today. I apologize for the amount of quotes, but I think they are necessary to support my main points.

Ilovejohn
Conclusion: Scum

jaminz
My prime godfather suspect
Conclusion: Godfather


The new information is the people who voted for EternalMisfit to die:
On May 12 2011 12:07 Node wrote:
FINAL Vote Tally Day 3:
EternalMisfit (8)
sandroba
ilovejonn
Cthsazsa
Impervious
AirbladeOrange
sinani206
Mig
jaminz

Note that EternalMisfit was the first player to receive the majority.


ilovejonn voted for Kurumi, Cthazsa and EternalMisfit. Someone else did too, someone who hasn't been brought up much at all. He is on chaoser and orgolove's lists of doom. He's been lurking like crazy.



AIRBLADEORANGE


His vote made it 6-4 in favour of EM. He also voted Kurumi and was on Cthazsa before switching after chaoser's DT claim.

He has 29 posts so far. His posts include:

Attacking chaoser while defending Irish_Punk13

Advocates lynching of townies

Defense of Kurumi

Immediately after, attack on Kurumi once Irish_Punk13 calls him out.

Defense of Jaminz. Also he tries to tie Kurumi and Irish_Punk13 together. The post doesn't say all that much more.
On May 05 2011 11:59 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 11:09 jaminz wrote:
On May 05 2011 11:00 KillerSOS wrote:
On May 05 2011 10:50 ilovejonn wrote:
On May 05 2011 10:45 KillerSOS wrote:
Guess I fall into "doesn't stand out"

Success? >_>

?? Your posts don't hold a lot of value really. I consider myself an invisible poster but I don't spam the thread with useless wifom like what you did here. What do you mean success? You like to not stand out because you are scum?

KillerFOS



How could standing out possibly be a good thing? Its only going to get you lynched or killed by the mafia.

Nice play on my name btw, but I would prefer KillerSOS


Also my whorish posting can be somewhat explained by my lack of interest in working on my paper, therefore I am obsessively F5'ing the thread. I'll be up all night finishing anyways...


Wow......this is such a dumb thing to say. You're essentially saying that its good not to say anything that could possibly make people (either mafia or town) look at you. You realize that the only way to find mafia is to do analysis, and that in doing analysis you're going to bring attention to yourself. I don't understand how you can make this comment and expect it to be a good explanation for your posting habits. This is insane


I think this is a really good point. Jaminz, you are playing differently than last game but I think it's a good different.

I believe Chaoser to be town, he is doing a great job of encouraging discussion and taking stands and demanding responses. This is very important for town as I learned last game. Be bold and make the mafia scared. It's okay for town to die as long as they mafia leave clues behind. Clues are much easier to decipher later in the game when you figure out who they are voting for and pressuring and who they bandwagon against.

I'm still voting for Kurumi. His type of posting just does not seem pro town. We need to stay on task, clear up and back up what we say, and stay focused on killing people who are likely mafia.

If he flips red, I am inclined to take out Irish guy next because they seem like a pair. I think it was Chaoser that even pointed out the times they posted were within minutes of each other.

And as always, if anyone wants me to clarify anything I said or wants my opinion on something please ask.


Saying chaoser is town for the same reasons he said he was suspicious before?

Once again, ties Kurumi and Irish together.
On May 06 2011 04:20 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I'm sticking with Kurumi. If he flips red then I will be on Irish next. Kurumi's posts are not getting any better or helping his situation at all. It is a mafia tactic to confuse and be crazy in the beginning. That's not a good strategy.

I think Chaoser is town and I also believe Redtooth could be mafia. I was not convinced by his last big post. How is Irish an obvious townie? I just don't see that point at all.


ties irish and kurumi again. That's three times now.

Points out how we should look at people, but doesn't do it himself. Airblade provides absolutely no analysis except for Cthazsa.

This post scares the shit out of me:
On May 06 2011 07:00 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Please don't use any vigilante actions now. It's way too soon without having much to go on. These percentages don't really mean anything and anyone advocating the use of our blue roles at this point is not having the town's best interests in mind.

Actively encouraging blue roles not to act? Note that he doesn't just advocate vigis not shooting but any blue role being used.

Defense of ilovejonn
On May 06 2011 13:58 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I remember ilovejonn being mostly a lurker in the last mafia game providing no real analysis. Why is he suspicious this game when he was acting the same way last game and was town?


This post I don't understand at all. Attacking Conversion for also attacking Cthazsa?
On May 07 2011 14:43 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Conversion, I'm beginning to think more and more that Cthsazsa is mafia too, but I think you're going about calling him out in a way too aggressive way.

I'm still suspicious of Redtooth but I think there is not enough to go on now and there are better candidates, especially Cthsazsa. I'm gonna look up his posts soon and post something on it.


Arguments against Cthsazsa

Next are two quote regarding Amber. He says that Amber is a good lynch but doesn't give a reason. He also encourages people to split the vote up as much as possible?
On May 08 2011 06:54 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Amber is in my top 5 suspects right now. I got Amber, Cthsazsa, Irish, Mig, and Redtooth in no particular order.

Splitting the vote between several people I agree does the town little good, but at the same time not doing so could just be sheeping, making it easier for mafia to blend in. I'm open to suggestions as to how to do this.


Another post about lynching Amber
On May 08 2011 17:16 AirbladeOrange wrote:
I'm good if town wants Amber and Cthsazsa as two of the lynch candidates. Irish will probably be modkilled.


Final reasoning for Cthazsa over Amber.

Comment on roleblocking - makes GGQ look suspicious. This kind of goes against the AO is mafia theory, but on the other hand at this point GGQ was looking bad and it could have been a play for town points.

But tries to get people to ignore chaoser?

Attack on Mig

Attack on orgolove's analysis

Only reasoning for voting EternalMisfit.
He only had the 2 posts on day 3.

Lastly, I defended the hell out of Airblade on day 1. It was kind of dropped after that, AO hasn't been looked at since.


Airblade's actions have been:

- Attack chaoser

- Advocate lynch of townie

- Defend Irish_Punk13, then turn around and attack him again. Desperately trying to tie him to Kurumi seems to me as an attempt to shield him once Kurumi flips.

- Defend Jaminz

- Defend ilovejonn

- Advocate not using blue roles

- Pretend to focus on who voted for Kurumi and never does anything about it.

- Attack Cthazsa. This is the only analysis he has provided all game.

- Attacks Conversion for also going after Cthsazsa?

- Attack Amber but not vote for him.

- Advocate splitting the vote up as much as possible.

- Attack Mig, who voted early for Amber to die.

- Switch his vote to Amber after Chaoser's roleclaim.

- Make GGQ look suspicious.

- Not bring up sinani206 or ilovejonn at all day 3 and vote EM.

- Lastly, just before Day 4, pushing for sinani206.
On May 13 2011 11:32 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Is anyone against lynching Sinani assuming nothing crazy happens before then?




I'd also like to refer to ilovejonn's analysis of EternalMisfit. Note that it DIRECTLY defends AirbladeOrange. EternalMisfit provided an analysis of AO on Day 1 which ilovejonn is attacking.

CONCLUSION


I'm feeling both ilovejonn and AirbladeOrange are scumbuddies. I am however slightly confused about the interactions between Irish_Punk13 and AO and then AO's posts about wanting to lynch Amber, plus the post making GGQ look suss.

Please discuss! Sinani is also on the table too but I'm starting to think he isn't mafia now.




Sucker for nostalgia
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 03:23:15
May 13 2011 02:59 GMT
#1887
Day post time!


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Day 4

It was another night of killing and destruction at the factory. A dark shadowy tentacled thing took GMarshal by surprise in the dark corridors as he blabbered to himself, leaving his body a ruined mess to be found in the morning, his head removed and his inner organs eviscerated. No one really missed his cryptic comments and odd murmuring about the voices in his head though.

Meanwhile a dark cloaked figure found Qatol looking for some evernight deep in the vowels of the factory to replenish his interrogation kit, with a swift glint of steel and a little pain it was all over for Qatol, who died with only a quiet dissatisfied gurgle and a knife in his throat.

A dark shadowy creature visited Ver that night with evil intent, as Node burnt down the door with tendrils of blue fire before he noticed a wire running from the door to the workshop. By the time his mind cut through the dark whispers to figure out what it was, it was too late , he could only watch as the first explosives in the massive trap detonated. At dawn the rest of the town found only a huge rubble filled crater and a few pieces of Ver and Node scattered around the area

GMarshal the 3rd party Insane Magician is dead
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to mafia XXXIX, you are the 3rd party Insane Magician, you really have no place in this town, and to win you have to fulfill some rather interesting conditions. Not that you know what they are of course, you *are* insane after all. You have some cool powers, use them! or not, whatever the voices in your head tell you.

1.) Knowledge: you know the following facts to be true, maybe, or maybe you are hallucinating, who knows! The mafia has Ace and Node in it. The Lich wins with the town. There is an alien, who can mind controll people. The abomination is in the game. The emperor is dead. You love the companion cuber. nogard der a si selggiw. Die Feinde seid acht leute

2.) A book of spells! You have a book of spells, unfortunately you kind of forget what they do, some of them are labeled, but that could just be notes you wrote while in a fit of madness, you might as well try them out.
a.) tteram aroaiontgrnitfsm- some odd scribbles next to it reads "a flworpue slple listnytna asrtitdinseeg vmerohwe rizadw sesohoc"
b.) The bell of ending- huh, no notes attached to it, you are sure it can't be anything *that* bad
c.) Ermintoeri Herigena- "A mass healing spell...I think"
d.) Teleport- "I think its mislabeled, should read disintegrate"
e.) Wall of magma - "hehehehe, magma... thats a funny word, magma"
f.) 1_1_1_1_1_!_1__ - "huh, I dont remember this spell being here, odd"
g.) pg127 - "good spell, I like"
h.) Rising Star - no notes
I.) Nail to the sky - "12398437832782370791"

3.) The voices in your head!- you can talk with them! The quicktopic is (REDACTED) just chat with them, they may or may not be sane, may or may not be whispers from an elder god and may or may not be controlled by me or other players

4.) Confusing- you return a random result to DTs and nks aimed at you are redirected at random somewhere, maybe, or maybe they are redirected and kill you, you aren't exactly sure of what the specs of the cloak of protection you bought are.


Node the Mafia Deamon of Tzeentch is dead

+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to mafia XXXIX, you are the Mafia Deamon of Tzeentch, you are a herald of the dark god of treachery and deceit , and you have a feverish hate for the inquisition and the clergy. You win with the mafia, as long as the inquisitor is dead before the endgame and all town spiritual leaders are dead. Your spite and ambition mean that the godfather has to be dead as well or you must have been elected godfather to win. Your team is (REDACTED) as a servant of Tzeentch you have some nifty powers.

1.) Subtle Lies- at any point in the game after your team sends a hit in you may PM me that you wish to activate this power and may choose what the player will flip as in the day post, if the hit does not go through the power is not expended, the lie is revealed the next day (so 72 hours later)

2.) Terror from beyond- you are a deamon from humanities darkest nightmares, every night you can visit someone and terrify them into not performing night actions, unless they are foolishly brave.

3.) Whispers of madness- you have access to this quicktopic where a bunch of town players can read and post, but will not know your identity, you may not reveal who you are, but you may advise them the quicktopic is (redacted)

4.) Dark God's influence- at any point you may influence a player's actions by sending them an anonymous PM, just PM what you wish to PM to whom, it may not be longer than 100 words, and I will tell them they received this message telepathically from another player

5.) Tzeench's Will!- you have one favor from the dark one himself, pm me a message of less than 30 words, the favor contained therin will be granted if it is reasonable, remember you are dealing with a god of treachery and deceit, measure your words carefully.


Qatol the Town Enforcer is dead
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to mafia XXXIX, you are the Town Enforcer, you didn't want to, but now that the mafia is in town you have no choice but to pick up the mantle of authority, you will make sure that the forces of evil do not triumph! You will also make sure order prevails. You win with the town as long as the insane wizard is dead, the suicide bomber has lost his suicide vest (and no other suicide vests are in play!) and the agent of chaos is dead or has been psychoanalyzed. You have some tools to help you in orchestrating this.
1.) Jailkeeper- every night you may lock up a player and keep the from performing any night actions as well as being targeted by any night actions.

2.) Bring about order- at any point in the game you may call for a double lynch, just post ##double Lynch within the first 24 hours of the day and that day a double lynch will take place.

3.) Advanced Chemo Interrogation kit- every day you may use this kit on a player, just PM me a player name and three questions, which may not be repeats or have similar answers (what is your alignment, and what side do you win with count as the same question for example), the subject must answer one of these questions truthfully, lie to the other and may answer whatever he wants to another, you will not know which responses are true, and which lies. The target will not be informed of who asked the questions, only that they were asked.

4.) A bullet proof vest- makes you immune to one night kill, nifty, you will be notified if you are shot and it is destroyed



Ver the Town Bomb Nut is dead

+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to mafia XXXIX, you are the Town Bomb Nut. You love explosives of all kinds, bombs, mines, remote detonators, c4, the whole lot! You want to be the only bomb maker in town and resent those who would take them away from you. You win with the town, as long as the Town Enforcer is dead, as well as the arms dealer, and as long as no bomb diffusion kits are left in the game. You have the following items/powers

1.) Suicide bomber vests, Guts and Glory quality items, you've manufactured three of these and may use them or give them out as you please, they kill the user and the target, barring protection and may be used at any time by just typing ##Suicide Bomb: Player Name you may only give them out at night and one at the time at that, wouldn't want any spoilsports catching on

2.) Miniature Mines- every night you may sneak into someones house and plant a miniature claymore, at any point you may detonate them all by typing ##Detonate Bombs these bombs have the same killing power as bullets, meaning that anything that would stop a bullet stops a miniature mine

3.) Rigged to blow- your house is a doomsday trap with a deadsman switch, if you are killed at any point anyone visiting you that night dies, irregardless of protection or anything else, all that is left behind is a steaming crater, your remains and anyone else splattered across a five mile radius

4.) A Nose for explosives- every night you may check a player and I will tell you if they have any explosives on them, you may do this in addition to handing out suicide bomber vests.



It was an... interesting night to say the least. I wonder how thing will play out from here?
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 13 2011 03:00 GMT
#1888
Annnnnnnnd he delivers!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 13 2011 03:00 GMT
#1889
wtf yo
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
May 13 2011 03:01 GMT
#1890
Day 4
[image loading]


The killings aren’t as bad as they used to be. They’ve almost become routine -- another night, another two friends, two family members not around anymore. Another bloodstained spot on the concrete that they'll never completely wash away.

Today, it is sandroba and Cthsazsa that they will have to learn to live without.

Sandroba the Townie is dead.
Cthsazsa the Townie is dead.





Another night, come and gone. Another lynch, yet to go. You have 48 hours!
whole lies with a half smile
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
May 13 2011 03:01 GMT
#1891
\o/
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
May 13 2011 03:01 GMT
#1892
I like mine better node...
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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 13 2011 03:02 GMT
#1893
good luck town! I hope you guys win this for us!
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4340 Posts
May 13 2011 03:02 GMT
#1894
Kita, while I am unsure on Jaminz, note in my analysis that AO defends Jaminz. If you are right about him being GF, it makes sense.
Sucker for nostalgia
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 13 2011 03:05 GMT
#1895
On May 13 2011 11:59 GMarshal wrote:
Mafia Deamon of Tzeench is dead
[/b]
If you're going to reference the Changer Of Ways in your post, spell his name right.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4340 Posts
May 13 2011 03:05 GMT
#1896
And with that, my vote goes to ilovejonn.

When he flips red, I will vote for AirbladeOrange next.
Sucker for nostalgia
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4198 Posts
May 13 2011 03:06 GMT
#1897
oh, shit, ninja'd by night post.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
May 13 2011 03:08 GMT
#1898
Well, I think it's safe to say that there are no medics in this setup. I don't see any way a medic would have saved anyone except sandroba.
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9244 Posts
May 13 2011 03:09 GMT
#1899
On May 13 2011 12:02 DropBear wrote:
Kita, while I am unsure on Jaminz, note in my analysis that AO defends Jaminz. If you are right about him being GF, it makes sense.


Why push those two rather than sinani? What changed your mind that he isn't mafia anymore?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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May 13 2011 03:09 GMT
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On May 13 2011 12:08 jaminz wrote:
Well, I think it's safe to say that there are no medics in this setup. I don't see any way a medic would have saved anyone except sandroba.


Thanks for your input.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
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