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FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 23 2011 19:25 GMT
#121
On April 24 2011 04:14 freestalker wrote:
hey fez, thanks for coming back. Just one hint - it's not allowed to edit posts if you have some issue with your post, edit it/write what you want different in a new post.


Oh shit. Yea It was just editing the # next to the Vote and changing "and that makes two votes for Enervate" after my vote to just putting it in parenthesis after my post. I hope it doenst get me Mod killed =(
I've only ever played mafia on IRC
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Rising_Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States370 Posts
April 23 2011 19:50 GMT
#122
##Unvote

Sorry I was at a horn concert and doing some other stuff as well.

First, looking at this mathematically there are 11 players, 3 of which are mafia. If you randomly choose a person there is a approx. 27% chance of getting it right. However, choosing randomly is a bad idea since you never know if you're lynching an important member (cop or medic).

The cop should look up a random member that isn't himself(obviously). That means there is a 3 in 10 chance of him being right (30%). If he is right, he should be able to hint to everyone else who is mafia. That leaves everyone else voting on another person. If you know who the cop/detective is, that leaves a 3 in 9 chance (33%) of being right. That's from 1/5 to 1/3 probability of being right. I don't know how well this works for day one but numbers are fun =].

----- Break for other half---
Leadership for townies is essential, and right now it looks like Conversion and Freestalker are the two most active in leading conversation and topics. Unless one of them slips up, I'd refrain from killing either of them for now.

Silent members have three possibilities:

1)They're trying to hide
2)They're lazy or disinterested in the game
3)It's a holiday and they're traveling

Going through we have these people being pretty inactive:

-jaminz: a few filler posts, nothing as contribution to the thread, pointing fingers
-aScle: one post?
-Enervate: very little posting as well

These players have said very little or immediately start pointing fingers (Enervate) when they start pointing. However, it doesn't make sense to choose him because he hasn't bothered defending any accusations or contributing anything to support his claim.

aScle and Jaminz have had very little to contribute. Their posts have little to no content and have not been active in general. Also, Jaminz has been very ready to point fingers but has little supporting evidence. I'll vote for him since he's just detracting from town synergy.

So, unless he can defend himself:
##vote Jaminz
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 23 2011 20:06 GMT
#123
On April 24 2011 04:50 Rising_Phoenix wrote:
##Unvote

Sorry I was at a horn concert and doing some other stuff as well.

First, looking at this mathematically there are 11 players, 3 of which are mafia. If you randomly choose a person there is a approx. 27% chance of getting it right. However, choosing randomly is a bad idea since you never know if you're lynching an important member (cop or medic).

The cop should look up a random member that isn't himself(obviously). That means there is a 3 in 10 chance of him being right (30%). If he is right, he should be able to hint to everyone else who is mafia. That leaves everyone else voting on another person. If you know who the cop/detective is, that leaves a 3 in 9 chance (33%) of being right. That's from 1/5 to 1/3 probability of being right. I don't know how well this works for day one but numbers are fun =].

----- Break for other half---
Leadership for townies is essential, and right now it looks like Conversion and Freestalker are the two most active in leading conversation and topics. Unless one of them slips up, I'd refrain from killing either of them for now.

Silent members have three possibilities:

1)They're trying to hide
2)They're lazy or disinterested in the game
3)It's a holiday and they're traveling

Going through we have these people being pretty inactive:

-jaminz: a few filler posts, nothing as contribution to the thread, pointing fingers
-aScle: one post?
-Enervate: very little posting as well

These players have said very little or immediately start pointing fingers (Enervate) when they start pointing. However, it doesn't make sense to choose him because he hasn't bothered defending any accusations or contributing anything to support his claim.

aScle and Jaminz have had very little to contribute. Their posts have little to no content and have not been active in general. Also, Jaminz has been very ready to point fingers but has little supporting evidence. I'll vote for him since he's just detracting from town synergy.

So, unless he can defend himself:
##vote Jaminz


Only issue with that is that if the cop outs himself right away, the mafia will know who he is and whack him, unless the medic heals him that night. So either we lose our cop right away or have two of our speciality units incapacitated for a night, leaving the mob free to thin our ranks.

Its not a bad idea but I'm pointing out the downside. Devil's advocate is fun ^_^
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 23 2011 20:13 GMT
#124
Also, updated vote count


Enervate 2
pHelix Equilibra 2
aScle 1
Jaminz 1
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 23 2011 20:14 GMT
#125
Still waiting on a lot of the inactives..

In my honest opinion, cop should check an inactive. It'll turn out to three outcomes, probably 2 or 3 since inactives tend to often be blue roles/mafia

Writing in first person, don't take this as me being cop or anything.

1) Confirmed townie. Oh well, let's hope I get a better result tomorrow. I can defend this townie to death because I know he's town.

2) Confirmed blue role. Nice! Now I know who the medic/cop is. I can act very vocal and hint for the medic to protect me or hint DT to check someone I wouldn't check in order to get 2 checks done in one night.

3) Confirm mafia. Well, now I have to tunnel him hard and hope town follows my analysis and lynches him.
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
April 23 2011 20:16 GMT
#126
the cop doesn't have to role claim to find enough evidence and push the conviction on others. Roleclaiming is probably a good option only once there are like 1-2 mafia left and he knows who they are, or if mafia is claiming they are a cop and the real cop knows one other mafia member (netting 2 mafia for 1 cop), etc. If medic manages to figure out who cop is before he roleclaims, he should be the only target to heal.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 23 2011 20:16 GMT
#127
##Vote HardCorey

Pressure vote.

Who are your scum reads? What's your opinion on policy/inactive lynching?

Who do you believe town should lynch on day 1? Do you disagree/agree with any of the opinions put forth by town so far?
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
April 23 2011 20:18 GMT
#128
Ok I'm checking this thread now. I don't have that much time to check this thread on the weekends. I usually check during class. Don't vote for me.
Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
April 23 2011 20:21 GMT
#129
Lol I started to edit my previous post but then I remembered we are not supposed to edit. About my earlier accusations, I was just kidding. I felt like saying something else besides "gl hf".
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 23 2011 20:21 GMT
#130
hmmmm, well I guess thats good enough for me to unvote you.... for now =p

##Unvote
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 23 2011 20:22 GMT
#131
ah poop
forgot to bold
##Unvote
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 23 2011 20:24 GMT
#132
vote update

Enervate 1
pHelix Equilibra 2
aScle 1
Jaminz 1
HardCorey 1

what happens in the event of an even vote?
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
April 23 2011 20:25 GMT
#133
5. In the event of a tie the person with the most votes first is lynched

OP has everything covered, usually.
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 23 2011 20:26 GMT
#134
lol my bad, yea I just went back and read that. My bad >_<
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Rising_Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States370 Posts
April 23 2011 20:27 GMT
#135
On April 24 2011 05:16 freestalker wrote:
the cop doesn't have to role claim to find enough evidence and push the conviction on others. Roleclaiming is probably a good option only once there are like 1-2 mafia left and he knows who they are, or if mafia is claiming they are a cop and the real cop knows one other mafia member (netting 2 mafia for 1 cop), etc. If medic manages to figure out who cop is before he roleclaims, he should be the only target to heal.


I was just looking at it mathmatically. I know cop would have to roleclaim for the probability thing to work, but it was more of a probability discussion than a strategy discussion. If cop hints too strongly he's a cop than he's going to get whacked probably since he has the ability to really push people to make a vote.
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes
jaminz
Profile Joined April 2010
United States208 Posts
April 23 2011 20:43 GMT
#136
Hey guys, I'm traveling right now so I can't make a big post (writing this from my phone), but I'll make a bigger post with my analysis/opinions on everyone later. Should happen in a few hours!
"Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart, kid, and you'll never go wrong" - The Great Bambino, The Sandlot
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
April 23 2011 21:42 GMT
#137
After reading the above posts. I believe the silent ones are the ones to really look out for. I understand the time zone differences. But I would say out of the silent ones. The one that pointed fingers relatively early with no supporting evidence is more suspicious. Phoenix is right, aScle said one thing so far, but then again he looks like he's in a different time zone, so when he does say more than one thing, we'll see.

##Unvote
##Vote Jaminz
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
April 23 2011 22:10 GMT
#138
the voting ends in like 8 hours, right?
freestalker
Profile Joined March 2010
469 Posts
April 23 2011 22:12 GMT
#139
I never understand the 24 hr night 48 hr day thing, if to understand it as 48 hr whole day, with 24 being night (aka 50:50 split) or 24 hr night and 48 day (aka 1:2 split).
Rising_Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States370 Posts
April 23 2011 22:22 GMT
#140
On April 24 2011 07:10 freestalker wrote:
the voting ends in like 8 hours, right?

I don't know how the whole day/night thing works. I assume it's gonna be 24 for day and 24 hours for night. I thought it might be 12 day/12 night but guess not =]
Early to bed and early to rise, makes a man stupid and blind in the eyes
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