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Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 15 2011 21:36 GMT
#161
On April 16 2011 06:28 VarpuliS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 06:23 Forumite wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:04 VarpuliS wrote:
On April 16 2011 05:52 Forumite wrote:
There has been some accusations of scummy behavior allready, actually everyone has except the lurkers (Varp, Senj, Vain) and Shcoleosis have pointed out someone that they think are scummy. There are 4 different people who have been pointed out as scummy by at least two people, at least if my data is correct.

would you care to share your data with the rest of us?

And because I like tripple-posting;

Yes, and you are welcome.

Thank you very much. Am I still a lurker?

Nope, not anymore.

Senj and Vain seem like the lurkers now, but I´m not sure, counting their posts in this thread might be a good idea.
:3
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 21:38 GMT
#162
On April 16 2011 06:17 sandroba wrote:
Well, right now, I'm still waiting on some kind of response by scholeosis. And the other lurkers should come out of the shadows and post their opnion, or is the situation too confortable that the scum can sit back and realx?


Well i'll come out of the shadows then and will mention there is not very much too say jet. You can only argue that some are more active then others but i don't think any obvious or major slips were made. Sure, Zorkmid has like 50% of the posts but doesn't really really fit the picture of scum(jet?). I think Shcoleosis has displayed an odd behaviour by at first saying I'm still learning :/ and switching from opinion that fast but an explanation for this could be that (s)he really isn't really into this game jet and is just afraid of being hanged the first day. Still until (s)he can give an explenation, my vote is still on him/her.

And btw please tell if your a girl or not. i am sick of typing 2 genders all the time. ifnot i assume your sexless, lol
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 21:39 GMT
#163
On April 16 2011 06:36 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 06:28 VarpuliS wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:23 Forumite wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:04 VarpuliS wrote:
On April 16 2011 05:52 Forumite wrote:
There has been some accusations of scummy behavior allready, actually everyone has except the lurkers (Varp, Senj, Vain) and Shcoleosis have pointed out someone that they think are scummy. There are 4 different people who have been pointed out as scummy by at least two people, at least if my data is correct.

would you care to share your data with the rest of us?

And because I like tripple-posting;

Yes, and you are welcome.

Thank you very much. Am I still a lurker?

Nope, not anymore.

Senj and Vain seem like the lurkers now, but I´m not sure, counting their posts in this thread might be a good idea.


Four if you count this one;)
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 15 2011 21:43 GMT
#164
On April 16 2011 06:39 Vain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 06:36 Forumite wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:28 VarpuliS wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:23 Forumite wrote:
On April 16 2011 06:04 VarpuliS wrote:
On April 16 2011 05:52 Forumite wrote:
There has been some accusations of scummy behavior allready, actually everyone has except the lurkers (Varp, Senj, Vain) and Shcoleosis have pointed out someone that they think are scummy. There are 4 different people who have been pointed out as scummy by at least two people, at least if my data is correct.

would you care to share your data with the rest of us?

And because I like tripple-posting;

Yes, and you are welcome.

Thank you very much. Am I still a lurker?

Nope, not anymore.

Senj and Vain seem like the lurkers now, but I´m not sure, counting their posts in this thread might be a good idea.


Four if you count this one;)

I stand corrected. Senj has posted some, it´s not really a matter of non-posters anymore, but just some posting less, taking less part and taking less room in the debate.

Information: Going offline early tonight. Will be back online tomorrow. Play nice while I´m gone.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
April 15 2011 22:04 GMT
#165
going offline now, gnight.
:3
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 15 2011 22:05 GMT
#166
I think we should start putting pressure, because this debate of me zorkmid and forumite throwing suspicion against each other is getting too confortable for the mafia. We have to starting giving out opnions and pointing some fingers, instead of being indecive. We have to stop "Well this could be scummy, but also could be that it's not scummy" . Yes, it's really hard to analise on day 1, but we at least have to try. As of now the only one to me that has shown any kind of clear scum behaviour is scholeosis. Zorkmid chainsaw defense of scholeosis seems suspicous aswell, but if it is indeed a chainsaw defense then pressuring scholeosis should be able to reveal them both.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 15 2011 22:10 GMT
#167
As it stands it's unlikely we can identify mafia day one. I think we should lynch a lurker day 1 and see who the mafia kills night 1 before trying any hardcore analysis. I've got no problem with the analysis that's been going on atm though, so keep it up guys!

I just looked though the thread, and pretty much 100% of Eternalmisfit's posts have been pushing for an inactive lynch day 1. He'd like to get everybody talking, but has yet to contribute in a meaningful way. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, it should either be him or Senj, who has been lurking since the beginning of the game, save a few posts about inactives.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 22:28 GMT
#168
On April 16 2011 07:10 VarpuliS wrote:

I just looked though the thread, and pretty much 100% of Eternalmisfit's posts have been pushing for an inactive lynch day 1. He'd like to get everybody talking, but has yet to contribute in a meaningful way. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, it should either be him or Senj, who has been lurking since the beginning of the game, save a few posts about inactives.


I pushed for inactive lynch as I don't see in-actives contributing to discussion in any form or sense. As far as meaningful discussion is concerned, there has been very little analysis by anyone on this thread apart from arbitrary finger pointing.

As far as my suspicions are concerned, I am quite suspicious of Shcoleosis being scum.
+ Show Spoiler +

Most of the people in the town are in 2 camps: lynching lurkers or not lynching lurkers. And for the most, the people have strong opinions on the matter. Shcoleosis initially was quite against the idea at the start of the discussion. However, as my suggestion gained some support (as most of the people opposed to it posted later), she quickly jumped sides and was semi-pro for lynching inactives.
I think she is changing her opinion and trying a bit too hard to fit in which seems like scummy behavior. She has also been inactive since those posts.


FoS Shcoleosis
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 15 2011 22:33 GMT
#169
On April 16 2011 07:10 VarpuliS wrote:
As it stands it's unlikely we can identify mafia day one. I think we should lynch a lurker day 1 and see who the mafia kills night 1 before trying any hardcore analysis. I've got no problem with the analysis that's been going on atm though, so keep it up guys!

I just looked though the thread, and pretty much 100% of Eternalmisfit's posts have been pushing for an inactive lynch day 1. He'd like to get everybody talking, but has yet to contribute in a meaningful way. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, it should either be him or Senj, who has been lurking since the beginning of the game, save a few posts about inactives.


This is pretty contradictory. And you conviniently forgot about scholeosis who has 2 post of utter nothingness and scumtells.
Senj really hasn't shown up much to give us his insight.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 15 2011 22:35 GMT
#170
On April 16 2011 07:28 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2011 07:10 VarpuliS wrote:

I just looked though the thread, and pretty much 100% of Eternalmisfit's posts have been pushing for an inactive lynch day 1. He'd like to get everybody talking, but has yet to contribute in a meaningful way. If we're gonna lynch a lurker, it should either be him or Senj, who has been lurking since the beginning of the game, save a few posts about inactives.


I pushed for inactive lynch as I don't see in-actives contributing to discussion in any form or sense. As far as meaningful discussion is concerned, there has been very little analysis by anyone on this thread apart from arbitrary finger pointing.

As far as my suspicions are concerned, I am quite suspicious of Shcoleosis being scum.
+ Show Spoiler +

Most of the people in the town are in 2 camps: lynching lurkers or not lynching lurkers. And for the most, the people have strong opinions on the matter. Shcoleosis initially was quite against the idea at the start of the discussion. However, as my suggestion gained some support (as most of the people opposed to it posted later), she quickly jumped sides and was semi-pro for lynching inactives.
I think she is changing her opinion and trying a bit too hard to fit in which seems like scummy behavior. She has also been inactive since those posts.


FoS Shcoleosis

Fair enough about the lurking. I'll look into the Shcoleosis matter. Expect a post about it in a couple of minutes.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 15 2011 23:05 GMT
#171
...And as promised, here is my analysis of Shcoleosis' posts.

First post is a response to Eternalmisfit's suggestion to pressure lurkers
On April 15 2011 11:17 Shcoleosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all.

Yeah, that seem logical. We don't want to kill innocent townies, though...It's the mafia we want gone! I highly doubt any mafia would be lurking or inactive when they have chances to kill. But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/

This bolded line is not scummy, it's just stupid. Mafia doesn't kill by talking, they kill by pm'ing GMarshal at night. Mafia needs to avoid drawing attention to itself to prevent themselves from getting lynched. This post in general is pretty worthless, ending with a line that is... strange.
But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/

This is the first scumtell I can see. She basically says "don't listen to me, i'm new." Townies need to talk and be listened to, not ignored because this is their first game. Only mafia and blues benefit from being ignored, so unless he roleclaims, lets assume scum.

Second post comes a little bit later. the post reads:
On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote:
I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky.

This is a post which blends in. It says practically nothing, but appears to be a contribution. Blending in is not something a townie needs to do. +1 scum level.

Finally, we've got lucky number 3:
On April 15 2011 13:01 Shcoleosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2011 12:40 Zorkmid wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote:
I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky.


Why are you trying to protect inactives? Either they're not helping to scumhunt, or they are mafia. Let's hang em all !

Not trying to protect the inactive. I guess I just didn't really understand your logic well. But, hey, if it takes lynching the inactive to get rid of the scum, LET'S DO THIS! Lol

Here, Shcoleosis basically says: "you seem to disagree with me... fine, you're right!" Agreeing with everybody else is something that two kinds of players do:
-unhelpful townies -because they're just being sheep
-mafia -because they're trying to blend in
I don't want either in my town come lategame.

Based off of this analysis, I'd like to start putting some pressure on Shcoleosis. Until a better target surfaces or she comes up with some good posts later on, I'll put my vote on her.

## Vote Shcoleosis
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
April 15 2011 23:12 GMT
#172
I think I agree with most of your analysis Varpulis. My line of thought was something similar when I raised my suspicions. I am still going to give her a few hours more to post her defense but I am leaning toward Shcolesis at the moment.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 15 2011 23:15 GMT
#173
Also note that females are extremelly socially intelligent on average, while being the masters of appearing dumb while being manipulative.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 15 2011 23:21 GMT
#174
On April 16 2011 08:15 sandroba wrote:
Also note that females are extremelly socially intelligent on average, while being the masters of appearing dumb while being manipulative.


Let's leave stereotypes and mildly sexist comments out of the game please -_-
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 15 2011 23:24 GMT
#175
Just to be clear: I'm not hell bent on lynching Shcoleosis. If a reasonable defense is given, then I'll remove my vote.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 15 2011 23:32 GMT
#176
I'm sorry if I sound sexist, I really am not and ment no offense towards you scholeosis. I love girls and admire them for the characteristics I mentioned above.
Vote: Scholeosis
As a place holder. I'm going out right now and I'll probably be back around 4'o clock in the morning here in Brazil (GMT -3).
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 15 2011 23:33 GMT
#177
Oops
##Vote: Scholeosis
Vain
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Netherlands1115 Posts
April 15 2011 23:55 GMT
#178
Well, She didn't change my opinion on her so:

##Vote: Scholeosis
Battle.net 2.0 is a waiter and he's a dick
Shcoleosis
Profile Joined April 2011
United States24 Posts
April 15 2011 23:55 GMT
#179
Whoa, what? I leave for a few hours and I come back to everyone against me? The last thing I'm trying to do is be falsely accused of something I'm obviously not. I was looking at things from a different point of view in order to help all of us find out who is mafia scum. Then, after I thought about it, I changed my mind a little because I started to see the point. Since I am new to this game, I am trying my best to give my point of view and understand without everyone being paranoid of me. Think of it this way, though, if I were mafia scum, why would I want to disagree with you all? That would make it blatantly obvious that I am scum!
Unnecessary quote for the masses
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
April 16 2011 00:12 GMT
#180
Having a different opinion/being vocal is not a scumtell.

Shcoleosis, sheeping is not a great way to play town, if you are indeed town. Even if you're not scum, you're not helping us find them. Who do you think would be a better target for a lynch? there are no inactives left, and you are the most suspicious of the lurkers so far.

I'd love to hear your opinion. If you can convince me that somebody else is more scummy than you, then I'll change my vote, until then, I'm fine with leaving you over the fire.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
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