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emlizzt was quick to jump on Zorkmids weak accusations and want to lynch inactives, but had been quiet for a long time. Senj is generally quiet, this can be seen as scummy in the case when Town accuse Town and do a good job of lynching themselves. ---- I´m not convinced that Shcoleosis is a Mafia, actually I think it´s very unlikely because of how many jumped on the wagon to accuse him. At the moment it´s only emlizzt, senj, the lurkers, and me, who haven´t accused Shcoleosis at one time or other, that almost guarantees that Shcoleosis is Town because the Mafia are always quick to jump on the wagon against a Town, but slow to accuse their own if they can avoid it. If Shcoleosis is Mafia, then the other Mafia just threw him under the buss. I´m going to go by my earlier suspicions, that Zorkmid is Mafia because of his random accusations and willingness to lynch for weak reasons. That his defence is to vote on the one the rest of Town wants to Lynch doesn´t speak in his favor IMO, he´s not defending, just shifting blame. ##Vote Zorkmid | ||
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I´ve been tunneling on the Zorkmid and elmizzt connection, both of them calling me scum for not posting during the start of the first day, when I was asleep and had informed people of this beforehand. I have the feeling that Zorkmid was the talkative Mafia, elmizzt the quiet one. Elmizzt hasn´t really said anything except agreeing with lynching inactives and agreeing with a weird post with weak arguments from Zorkmid. I get a bit of bad wibes from Vain, not because he´s a slow poster, but because I don´t see him posting his own reasons for jumping on the wagon against Shcoleosis. It didn´t take long for people to start voting once the first vote was in. Zork and Sandroba voted quickly, but they had allready stated they had FoS on Shcoleosis, while Vains voting felt more like he was just agreeing rather than making up his own mind. I´d like to see some more reasons from him. Senj is also very slow on posting, not saying anything except encouraging analysis. So Lurkers: Senj Vain elmizzt (with possible Zorkmid connection) | ||
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____ Anyway, I like what Varpulis did, making a summary, but I disagree with his summary on Elmizzt. He´s still lurking, he´s posted only one-liner unhelpfull posts except his groundless accusations against me, his post to vote on senj and his long accusation post against Sandroba. Not posting just to post a huge post to defend himself and throw suspicion on another tells me that he could post more if he wanted to, but perhaps he doesn´t because the debate goes the way he wants it to. Then again, Sandroba wasn´t under much suspicion before Elmizzt accused him, so if he is scum and was trying to divert attention, then he didn´t do a very good job of it. | ||
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I agree with most of it, especially the lurkers, looks like a solid current situation. Not yet with you on Shcoleosis but with all the FoS on him I should probably do a post-by-post later. Currently this: FoS Elmizzt FoS Vain | ||
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Shcoleosis have long been designated scummy, and a good Mafia tactic is to lynch those that are suspicious because that is easy. A good Mafia makes himself immune to suspicion, and this one has a good tactic. He´s the one who speaks the most, explains the situation, help the others in their analysis and appear so pro-town that he´s beyond suspicion. By piling the case on Shcoleosis, he´s himself safe for another day, maybe more, and it´s safe to gather evidence against someone most people allready think is scum allready. Well, he unvoted Shcoleosis, didn´t he? To lynch an inactive that would get modkilled anyway nonetheless? Yes, there was an opportunity for a double kill there, but also an opportunity to appear more Town to help with providing obvious advice, the situation is no different from a normal first lynch, just that the modkill bonus disappeared. And immediately after the lynch, what does he do? Does a nice post on who everyone is, excluding himself of course, but clearly marking Shcolesis as the most likely Mafia, back on making sure a scummy Townie gets lynched. I hinted that I would do a post-by-post analysis of Shcoleosis, so it´s okay for him to do the same, another strong attack to lynch him. He´s not very subtle, but at least focused. The quote is below, I bolded the relevant part, so the emphasis is mine. On April 18 2011 00:12 VarpuliS wrote: Unfortunately, we've got no clue which blue roles (if any) are in the game. If we do have any blues, we've got one of each, which means that we need to use those abilities wisely. I've got two lists here, 1 for the medic, and 1 for the DT, assuming the best case scenario that we've got both. Now, why is this scummy? Simple, there is 4 possible role combinations. Townies have no information that hints to which it is. Doctor and Cop can be both alone and together, and the cop couldn´t have identified a roleblocker yet to get more info. Now, what about Mafia? A Mafia knows if he or the other Mafia is a roleblocker, so they know if it´s combinations 1 and 2, or 3 and 4. If they have a roleblocker then it MUST be either one Blue of each type or NO blues at all. Since no role except a Mafia would know this yet, we can be quite sure that Varpulis is Mafia. He outed himself by mistake, and we should lynch him for Day 2, as well as put Shcolesis off the scumlist. ________ And again I realize that I should check up on Shcolesis, because I just defended him again. I hope he´s not Mafia, but if I´m right that Varpulis is Mafia, then Shcoleosis just became a guaranteed Townie. | ||
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If I am Mafia, then Shcoleosis is probably too, since for some reason I defend him all the time. If Varpulis is mafia then Shcoleosis is probably Town, since he´s been on him for so long. Apart from that it´s a very interesting summary, kudos. | ||
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FoS: VarpuliS | ||
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Is this because of that old Zorkmid post? | ||
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Damn this game is hard. Hopefully we get more to go on tomorrow. I don´t think there are many hours left until night-phase is over, anyone who wants to leave any last clues or evidence had better do so. | ||
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We´ll see who´s alive tomorrow and talk it out then. | ||
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Sandroba, about VarpuliS and his analysis of Shcoleosis, I read the last one and it does sound decent, although I wonder if it warranted the massvotes he got earlier, before everyone turned on Senj. I´m wavering on who seems to be the most scummy but I have a few possible candidates. Forgive me if I don´t post who until I have more evidence to go on. And that´s enough for today, gnight and see you tomorrow! | ||
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Possibles: 1 Mafia Role Blocker, 1 Mafia Goon, 5 Town, 1 Medic, 1 Detective 2 Mafia Goon, 1 Medic, 6 Town. There is nothing (except maybe Sandroba) that says we have a detective or roleblocker in the game. The only thing we KNOW is that there is a Medic, and he was spot on. I don´t see much point in lying about being roleblocked, except to try to look more Town, but I´m still taking Sandrobas comment with a grain of salt. mmm, salt... | ||
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Look, if I was marked for a night-kill and saved, then the Mafia knows it, the Medic knows it, but there is no way I can prove this to any others without possibly endangering the Medic, and that´s something we don´t want to do. Like Sandroba saying "I´m roleblocked", it doesn´t give us any info, except that IF someone else was roleblocked then that person only can be quite sure that Sandroba is Scum, but haven´t got a way to expose him. Would you take my word for it if I said I was marked for death but saved by the Medic, when it´s such an obvious way to appear more Town? | ||
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