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On April 12 2011 10:26 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 08:15 Rean wrote:On April 12 2011 08:09 Serejai wrote:
Also I don't understand how to use my role's abilities... am I allowed to PM a mod for help with this? Meapak says it's okay to pm the host: [01:14] <+Meapak> FUCK [01:14] <+Meapak> redff [01:14] <+Meapak> dude [01:14] <+Meapak> I'm at 1499 posts [01:14] <+Meapak> I can't post  [01:14] <+GGQ> i keep accidentally missing my milestone posts [01:14] <+Meapak> just tell him that he can PM the hosts I'm just reading through, but it looks like everyone else missed this. Wtf? Why are you in a chat room with meapak and GGQ? I thought only mafia had circles. FOS Meapak GGQ and Rean
tlmafia IRC?
you know our hangout for all of tl mafia?
#TLMafia IRC on quakenet.
jump in, its where we banter uselessly while we wait for dayposts to come up and such ^_^
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Right, people listen to the wisdom of this man who want to put an assassin in office. Great wisdom and Joy await us for electing a *known* non-town into a protected role. Perhaps you would like to invite the mafia in as well? That way we ensure a fair and even split, they might even promise to use their KP in the service of the town! Wouldn't that be *lovely*?
/end sarcasm
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Oh, and dr.h I notice you are not much of a gentelman, voting for yourself. I can do that too. In fact I think I will. Meh, these uncultured louts.
##Unvote Kita
##Vote GM
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On April 12 2011 11:42 Kavdragon wrote:I will say it again. DR.H's play has been detrimental to the town. He is Scum. DR.H said he would only run for mayor if he was mafia. He is Scum. DR.H said that the mayor was a stupid role, and he wished it wasn't here. He is scum. And this: Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 10:38 Coagulation wrote:From: DoctorHelvetica [ 10745 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: hey bro im sorry
Date: 10/25/10 13:48
i wasnt trying to be a dick to you to be rude but because its my strategy to get people riled up since i'm mafia in that game
don't take it personally. i remember my first game i played with really experienced played like ace and everyone came off as such a douche, it's just the nature of the game
no hard feelings :3
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JUST SAYING FOR ALL YOU NEWBS GOING "LOL DOCH IS PLAYING PRO TOWN" The mafia has done a wonderful job of manipulating town. First, take out one of the better candidates for mayor my arguing him into the ground, and calling him scum. Next stomp on townies so they just sheep to someone who isn't Dr.H. Next, point out how everyone is sheeping GMarshal, and get everyone to vote Dr.H. Last, lynch the guy who calls Dr.H scum.
Since it seems likely Doc is going to take the election, who are your main scumreads? Doc obviously, but who else? I want to be able to quote the hell out of you if you flip green.
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On April 12 2011 12:32 Conversion wrote:
Didn't most town want proct as pardoner?
Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends...
If most of the town wants the assassin as pardoner then they really deserve to lose.
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On April 12 2011 12:39 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 12:32 Conversion wrote:
Didn't most town want proct as pardoner?
Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends... If most of the town wants the assassin as pardoner then they really deserve to lose. Now that you know how weak (and even anti-town) the pardoner role is, why do you think that it's a bad deal for town to trade it for two kills and a role check?
BECAUSE ITS ANTI TOWN
if we are going to lynch the last mafia then Protac *has* to use it to by himslef an extra day to hunt out the last assassin
If we are in a position to win with a lynch he has to disrupt us so he can still win, *and* we can't afford to lynch him for it
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On April 12 2011 12:48 kitaman27 wrote:
GMarshal, you should change your lynch candidate to the most scummy person that votes for Protactinium within the next hour.
Next 11 minutes you mean?
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On April 12 2011 12:50 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 12:41 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 12:39 GGQ wrote:On April 12 2011 12:32 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 12:32 Conversion wrote:
Didn't most town want proct as pardoner?
Unvoted and voted proct. hoping for some kind of vote switch before day ends... If most of the town wants the assassin as pardoner then they really deserve to lose. Now that you know how weak (and even anti-town) the pardoner role is, why do you think that it's a bad deal for town to trade it for two kills and a role check? BECAUSE ITS ANTI TOWN if we are going to lynch the last mafia then Protac *has* to use it to by himslef an extra day to hunt out the last assassin If we are in a position to win with a lynch he has to disrupt us so he can still win, *and* we can't afford to lynch him for it If it's the last mafia, then we'll just lynch the last mafia with the next lynch? Pardoner can only pardon one lynch. Unless it's lylo, which is impossible because that would mean that protact is still around, which would mean that there's at least one bodyguard around, plus at least one more assassin, plus the mayor, etc. What situation can you imagine where Protact using the pardon spells dire doom for town?
I;m not going to bother theorizing, he is *not* town, and not pro-town and by giving him *anything* we really hurt the town. This has been argued to death, despite his claims he is not going to help town, like all of us he is in this to win it and I AM NOT going to allow the town to fuck itself over day one if I can possibly avoid it. Not on my watch.
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On April 12 2011 12:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey look, the Protact supporters have come out of hiding. Your glorious leader has just returned in time.
Kita I think your supporters have to move their votes to me to make sure that the assassin dosn't get into the town elected roles.
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Damnit, I was hoping to be able to go to bed without having to fight for the town for another hour.
I am as always your immortal servant town, so I wont allow you to fuck up!
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On April 12 2011 12:56 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 12:54 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 12:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey look, the Protact supporters have come out of hiding. Your glorious leader has just returned in time. Kita I think your supporters have to move their votes to me to make sure that the assassin dosn't get into the town elected roles. GM, respond to my post. When would it happen that proct being pardoner, would turn our game from winning to losing?
I dont know for sure, it would be a weird situation for sure, however its not impossible, and as policy we don't give ourselves the chance to lose stupidly. Its like giving coag a bomb, a poor idea. Let me ask you a question, what incentive does the assassin have to actually help town once elected? what is he afraid of, us lynching him? He knows we wont waste a lynch like that. So if you want him to have free reign then sure elect him, otherwise fight for the town, damnit.
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On April 12 2011 13:00 Conversion wrote:
Why would mafia bandwagon a nonscum, or assassin, to pardoner? Someone explain this to me?
Either because of the chaos it will cause (and there will be people scrutinizing him every minute of the day, and making accusations of him being scum) , or because he isn't an assassin at all, just a really, really ballsy mafia
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On April 12 2011 13:06 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 12:59 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 12:56 chaoser wrote:On April 12 2011 12:54 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 12:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey look, the Protact supporters have come out of hiding. Your glorious leader has just returned in time. Kita I think your supporters have to move their votes to me to make sure that the assassin dosn't get into the town elected roles. GM, respond to my post. When would it happen that proct being pardoner, would turn our game from winning to losing? I dont know for sure, it would be a weird situation for sure, however its not impossible, and as policy we don't give ourselves the chance to lose stupidly. Its like giving coag a bomb, a poor idea. Let me ask you a question, what incentive does the assassin have to actually help town once elected? what is he afraid of, us lynching him? He knows we wont waste a lynch like that. So if you want him to have free reign then sure elect him, otherwise fight for the town, damnit. Assassin has tons of incentive: 1) Not getting his ass lynched (he can't pardon himself) cause he didn't help town Why would we not waste a lynch like that? It's not a wasted lynch. It's a game ending lynch to him. He doesn't want to lose obviously. It's not like his win condition is in direct opposition to ours. It's more like it's in parallel and maybe it like cross ours. I really don't think it will. I'd rather have someone I'm sure is black in office than this WIFOM tip toeing who you be red/green situation. Look how confused town is right now with all it's switch voting. 2) He helps us, we help him. If our DTs find an assassin, we can tell him when and where we want. That's a bargaining chip WE have. Why would he throw that service out the window? You went from no to assassin to maybe to vehemently no again. Can I ask why? I understood the transition for the first switch but what's the transition for the second switch?
the first transition was because I did what I do every game and doubted myself, then I realized that if I want to play pro-town I can be feather in the wind and I have to make my own stances, thats also the reason for the blue list and my accusations of kita.
in response to 1 and 2
1.) It absolutely is a wasted lynch, any easy lynch or a lynch that dosn't get scum is a wasted lynch. Mislynching is bad, but it gives information if town decided to hang protac it would be a wagon with no information, it would be just as bad as him getting off a pardon
2.) therefore we dont have a bargaining chip, if we protect him he is *not* obligated to help us, in fact I' m sure he'll come up with plenty of reasons why who he thinks are assassins are scum to get us to lynch them, and the town being mindless sheep probably will.
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On April 12 2011 13:16 Kenpachi wrote:
mmm looks like something isnt going right. my vote on the wrong guy?
I dont think so, but I am partial to myself since I know my alignment, if you want theres a nice third party assassin that dosn't share our objectives who is just drooling over your vote as his life depends on it.
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On April 12 2011 13:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 12:54 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 12:53 kitaman27 wrote:
Hey look, the Protact supporters have come out of hiding. Your glorious leader has just returned in time. Kita I think your supporters have to move their votes to me to make sure that the assassin dosn't get into the town elected roles. Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 12:56 GMarshal wrote:
Damnit, I was hoping to be able to go to bed without having to fight for the town for another hour.
I am as always your immortal servant town, so I wont allow you to fuck up! These two posts disturb me. The first one, says "Hey guys, switch votes to me so I can be mayor!", and the second is you trying to reaffirm your towniness. Honestly, these rub me the wrong way, and they look like you're trying to make some last bid to get into first place and secure the mayorship. It doesn't look like a town move, but more like scum trying to fear monger. I'm not sure how comfortable I am with you in office now.
I dont care if you make me mayor, I prefer it ofcourse, what I dont want is an assassin in office, any assassin, someone who is confimed to be non-town, if you want to swap your vote to Dr.H do so with my blessing. But keep the elected roles in the hands of the town (no, I dont know Dr.H is town, but some people seem to have a town read on him, so I'll roll with it)
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On April 12 2011 13:21 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2011 13:18 GMarshal wrote:On April 12 2011 13:16 Kenpachi wrote:
mmm looks like something isnt going right. my vote on the wrong guy? I dont think so, but I am partial to myself since I know my alignment, if you want theres a nice third party assassin that dosn't share our objectives who is just drooling over your vote as his life depends on it. See there it is again. You've NEVER antagonized and vilified someone like that before. Your posts are usually just straight talk express. This game I've been getting weird vibes. Hope you ain't pulling a McCain.
You are right, sorry I am losing my temper and I should control myself better, this is the type of posts I told myself I wouldn't make, ever. It just angers me that you can't seem to see why protac is a bad choice, it just makes no sense.
Apolgies for the anger I am radiating, I'll control myself from here on out. If people want to vote for Pro then they should feel free to, both our sides have been stated and saying anymore is a waste ob breath.
Once again sorry if I vilified or slandered anyone, I'm not trying to ruin the town environment that I agreed with kav we should have.
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Coag, please, enough, the arguments have been played out, no need to lose your temper. Just keep a good eye on the people who vote pro.
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On April 12 2011 13:32 chaoser wrote:
GM, who are you lynching again if you're elected mayor? Not ON but airbladeorange?
I'll let you choose, which one do you think is a better lynch? AO's posts are coming off as super scummy to me, but I have a personal bias towards ON as I liked him when we were a scumteam in factory mafia, and I think he is playing his usual poor town game.
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Dr.H the abridged version of my case since it isn't written out. Votes for me becuase I am "flashy" and have pics in my campaign, proposes you as a lynch target which I think is unwaranted, wants you to kill him, which to me seems like the argument a scum would try to pull to look either town or stupid. he throws around some wifom arguments about what it means if you were not elected and got hit by scum. Argues against hitting inactives/lurkers and most of his posts scream filler at me, his post about the mayoral candidates is substanceless yet long. The other bulk of his posts want to lynch m0nster or ON, which was an easy thing to ask for .
He just strikes me as scum.
Sorry for not actually writing it PbP, no time
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