TL Mafia XXXVIII - Page 4

On April 10 2011 14:47 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
he probably got confused with the amount of kills they have

how is that a "mafia' fos, why would you fos him for that. if the number of assassins is indeed 3, they'll just kill him tonight so who cares

eii would make a shitty lynch

On April 10 2011 14:48 Mig wrote:


I wasn't trying to repeat what others said I was typing the posts up at the same time. You can see my other post where I basically said the exact same thing as you went up at the same time.

If my posts are just saying nothing then I don't have any defense against that haha. I am just adding points I thought were valid.

On April 10 2011 14:51 Conversion wrote:


Where in my post, if you're directing this to me, did I state "mafia FoS?"

FoS means that I am just watching him. Whether we share the same definition for a mafia term would just boil down into an argument of nothing (and inevitably spam/clutter), so can we avoid that?

from mafiawiki "... used to formally indicate 'you're being watched.' "

On April 10 2011 15:02 Conversion wrote:
What are you even arguing here? I can't FoS someone for being an assassin? So now you're telling me that I can only FoS possible lynch targets?

You can have a completely different definition of FoS in your head compared to the one I have in mine. I understand that you like spamming up threads (you even have a reputation of it), but really? What are you even pointing at here? Am I mafia for misusing FoS in your opinion? Am I mafia for FoSing and assassin, when GMarshal prodded me to speak? Yes I am new and I would rather not speak because I'd make a lot of mistakes that would lead to scum reads from the players that can't differentiate from scum and bad townie play.

Stop arguing about silly things, it's getting you nowhere. If you somehow deduce that I'm scum from senseless arguments like these kudos to you for failing.

On April 10 2011 15:08 chaoser wrote:


lol last time you thought I was town you were wrong =P

Kav is probably most scummy out of you me and kav. Kita's is a throw away campaign. I think you should be mayor, I can be pardoner and we can lead the town into an era of prosperity. I'd rather I be pardoner but I love balls to the wall play and having a black in office and taking up a spot for sure instead of a red is appealing so he'd be a third place runner after me in my book.

I want ON and Tackster to speak up.

ON because he came in, said some throwaway stuff, voted you and then didn't say anything else. Even though just moments before Prot did his balls to the wall claim. ON hasn't said a single thing. Whether that's cause he's busy or cause he's afraid of commenting on it cause he's mafia and needs to consult his team is up in the air. I'mma keep a close watch on him all game.

Tackster because he posted well in insane II and I hope to see more of the same. He's on the other side of the world so I understand time differences would cause him to not be posting right now.

Wuthering Heights because it used the Twilight template and also because it's named after the saddest book I've ever read.

On April 10 2011 15:10 Conversion wrote:


Thanks, I like to know that I am terrible. You're a great help, Mr. "if you think someone is an assassin announce it"

I never realized there was a part in there that said "if you're a terrible poster, I'm going to attack you for FoSing an assassin."

On April 10 2011 15:10 chaoser wrote:
You were a non-issue in my head lol. GM+chaoser for XXXVIII MAYORAL CAMPAIGN 2011!

On April 10 2011 15:13 GMarshal wrote:
Frankly I think Dr.H is a terrible candidate for mayor, (no offense intended) as his track record in town leadership has mafia winning most times. I think he is a fine player, and I'm happy to have him doing analysis and such, but I dont want him in a position where the entire town follows him as he has a rather large tendency to second guess himself.

Also I can agree with a GMarshal, chaoser mayoral campaign, choaser, you are in charge of the posters.

Sorry kav, but I have to vote for my new running mate
##Unvote
##Vote: Chaoser

On April 10 2011 15:12 kitaman27 wrote:
Cmon now town. I go away for a couple hours and come back to see we are considering electing an assassin. He does not have a town win condition. He has no incentive to help town. All the people that were talking about how we need a strong "leader" in office, do you really think a third party would be that person? To lead the town to victory? Leave him to die by night kill. That's one less non-town we have to worry about. You may now commence the yelling of "OMG kita doesn't want to elect an assassin. He must be an assassin!"





We have our first major contradiction here. Pre-game he does not want to be mayor. He recieves his role pm and decides to run.

FOS DrH



At least as pardoner, I promise to read the rules. It doesn't matter if the second highest person is mafia. When a pardon is used, no one is lynched. Sounds like you don't want the pardoner role in my hands. We're you planning to run for the pardoner specifically before I announced my campaign or after you saw me running?

On April 10 2011 20:08 aidnai wrote:
Kita is definitely overreacting against Protact. Good DT check right there.

DrH, will you please shut up a bit? you are playing the same way you did back in insane 1... I want the new players to speak up, but it won't happen if you keep biting their heads off and/or drowning them with your spamming. Instead of reacting to every little thing you disagree with, wait and see who else disagrees, who lets it slide, who likes it, etc.

I would consider protact a good candidate for pardoner or mayor. One question that is vital though: I have never seen town use "gift KP" well, so how do you intend to put your KP to town use? especially with a town this size, a vote is going to be a nightmare. You could have the mayor pick your targets, but that puts even more power into one pair of hands. Leaving it to your discretion is...lawl.

On April 10 2011 19:57 Robellicose wrote:
I agree with the many people who have argued against protact for mayor. I would simply rather have someone who I read as town in the position and protect protact with the pardoner position. I'm feeling highly suspicious of Dr.H at the moment, he seems to be very combative whilst not putting out a huge amount of his own ideas, just shooting down other peoples and trying to deflect any calm decision making.

FoS DoctorHelvetica
##Vote GMarshal

On April 11 2011 01:31 Jackal58 wrote:
Actually every vote he makes is directed by town. He'll always be in a lylo situation.

On April 11 2011 01:28 Jackal58 wrote:
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His hands are basically tied on the lynch. He votes for who town puts forth or he gets lynched. He is in a lylo on day 1. If it gets to the point where we are that far ahead that he's a detriment to town we no longer need him anyways so again he's in a lylo. He is forced into being pro town or losing.

On April 10 2011 21:17 Barundar wrote:
I'm fine with having Protactinum as pardoner, if he will use his KP on targets decided by town a few days in, when we got a better read on who's red. For this to happen we lose the pardoner, which is a pretty useless role for town anyways, and gain vigi, a good trade in my opinion.

Just remember Protactinum has a different win condition, so he won't win the game for us. Since he will only help us to the degree it serves his purpose, he will blow his KP on the assassins if they are silly enough to out themselves before we find mafia. But that is a small risk I'm willing to take.


Since he obviously can't be our mayor, we should keep focus on our candidates:

Chaoser, are you still running? I felt kinda off when you put a FoS on one of the only active new people.

Kavdragon, I feel you need to put more effort into your campaign, you posted a lot during night 0, but seem to have gone more quiet around your own candidacy.

GMarshal, you honestly want to lynch the most inactive player? That person is never going to be mafia.

DrH, it seems like several people are suspicious of your alignment?

From all the candidates, I'm interested in hearing how you think our pardoner should be used, the way you will be using your mayor role, and your current mafia reads.


To town: it's us who decides who we want as mayor, so don't be shy to ask questions to the candidates, or write your opinions of them. Remember it's the silent ones that gets killed first!

On April 11 2011 02:57 Jackal58 wrote:

I think scum want to be mayor first and foremost.

On April 11 2011 03:08 Jackal58 wrote:

And having a scum mayor is the worst case scenario for town.
And I'm aware that Protactinum may be scum not assassin. If he is he has balls bigger than he's already been given credit for.

I honestly think towns best interest in this is to keep scum from getting the mayors seat.

On April 11 2011 03:34 GMarshal wrote:
Alright protact I see you points, I'm not going to vote for you, but I won't actively oppose you either. I do not think you have the town's best interests at heart and I think that your whole "I'm in it for the glory" spiel is an attempt to manipulate the town. But you *are* one of the best analysts around, and I wouldn't object to having you by my side as a pardoner, assuming you actually wanted to help the town. Frankly I'm torn so I think it best to let the town choose

Regarding my "I'll lynch the most inactive player" I think I'm going to redact that to "I'll lynch the player who I feel is lurking the most" by lurking I mean posting content-less posts while trying to appear pro town. Is that ok with everyone? Or would you guys prefer if I just hit the most inactive person?

On April 11 2011 03:47 Coagulation wrote:






STFU DOCH