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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 08:33 GMT
#1859
On April 13 2011 17:32 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 17:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:30 urashimakt wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Good now I know you're full of shit.

Because I'm the veteran. And unless this is a no medic tons of veterans set-up, there is almost NEVER more than one veteran.

Veteran is also the EASIEST and SAFEST fake roleclaim for mafia.

bye coagulation

Well I think we have to lynch Coag now. If he blue/green, DrH and Prot have both put themselves on the chopping block. This is like the best town day ever, no?

There is the remote

possibility

that in this set-up there are no medics and instead there are many veterans.

but really if me and protact and scum why would we go through SO MUCH effort to kill COAGULATION

ITS COAGULATION

All that name means to me as a newbie, honestly, is allcaps.

Well that's about all there is to it.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 08:36 GMT
#1867
On April 13 2011 17:35 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 17:32 Mig wrote:
I believe you anyway DrH. It seems like it would be such a retarded play to risk your position as mayor by fake roleclaiming vet.

he isn't risking anything, he can't be DT checked as long as a bodyguard lives. Not saying he is scum, but if he really believes that coag is mafia this is an easy way to try and influence town opinion to go with him, and it will be an exceedingly long time before anyone would know that his claim was fake.

wait you're not implying i'm mafia trying to get mafia lynched right because that would be

absolutely ridiculous
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 08:40 GMT
#1875
I wouldn't mind a second veteran claim. If another veteran claims right now then that means we are VERY likely in the veterans only/no medic scenario (a medic should absolutely NEVER claim look at salem mafia lolol)

No claim is guaranteed Coagulation is mafia.

So if you are a veteran, I actually urge you to claim. 1 would suffice.

There is a hidden element to this plan of course. If you have it figured out, kindly keep it to yourself.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 08:49 GMT
#1885
All that has to happen to save Coagulation in my mind is a veteran claim. That would show that this is a special gametype and I'd reevaulate Protactiniums position.

RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 08:50 GMT
#1886
On April 13 2011 17:48 ilovejonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 17:45 Coagulation wrote:
at least when i flip he will be exposed AS A LIER.

hey flamewheel MARK MY WORDS YOUR FUCKED AT FLIP.

Why do you need to keep stressing this? Blacks will hit him during the night if you're green/blue.

Also to people saying this is disrupting us from scum hunting... wtf? Who says you can't scum hunt as well as discuss our current lynch target?

inb4 scum pick a bad case and say "Well lets lynch this person he's OBVIOUSLY scum and let coagulation at least prove himself like he said he could..."
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 08:55 GMT
#1892
On April 13 2011 17:53 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 17:49 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
All that has to happen to save Coagulation in my mind is a veteran claim. That would show that this is a special gametype and I'd reevaulate Protactiniums position.



40 player game, why are you convinced there's only one vet?! and why fish for them that's just facepalm dumb. Vets are totally useless once they claim :/

maybe you're hoping coag is scum and one of his scumbuddies claims vet as well now? I just don't get what you're thinking...


because if you take assassins out of the picture, this isn't a very large setup. I've balanced and seen enough set-ups to know that the multiple vet scenario is pretty rare in the case that there are medics.

if a second vet claims then that gives me a jumping off point to at least reevaluate the situation. otherwise there is no choice to lynch coagulation

think critically

maybe some things are better left unsaid aidnai
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 08:59 GMT
#1896
On April 13 2011 17:58 Barundar wrote:
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On April 13 2011 17:52 Coagulation wrote:
why are you gonna listen to someone who has already PROVED he has no problems MANIPULATING AND LYING TO TOWN.

My problem is that I can't find a scenario where flamewheel can be mafia. And if he is assassin, he only has this one chance of trying to survive by guessing on a red, and he picks you. He is an experienced player, and of all the possibilities he chose you. This means there is a pretty good reason to lynch you, whether he is an assassin or DT.

that scenario is flamewheel and coagulation are both red and coagulation is getting bused to put flamewheel in a position of trust

we should absolutely go through with this lynch

because anything should be a potential bus and if flamewheel is bussing then that is STILL A MAFIA KILL FOR US
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 09:07 GMT
#1902
Protact would choose his #1 black target to make a scum analysis on. I have a hard time believing he thought Chaoser was assassin over kitaman27.

If he's black and wrong, we don't lynch him. We certainly don't protect him. He simply dies night 2 and we take the loss in stride and move on.

On April 13 2011 18:04 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 18:01 Coagulation wrote:
I want you to feel that Flamewheel.
FEEL IT. THINK IT LONG AND HARD.
You damn well know you took a GAMBLE. And you lost buddy.
Its a shame you had to take me down with you. but you lost.

I look forward to his next claim, if that turns out to be the case.

+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From BrownBear:
Yes, there is a hidden role not mentioned in the OP. Don't tell anyone, but:

The Prismatist - You are the Prismatist. Once and only once per day/night cycle, you may make a role claim. If you manage to claim a red, black, green, and blue role before being hit or lynched, you win. You will be removed from the main game.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From urashimakt:
Is there a hidden role? Come on now, truthsies.


Goodnight.


Uh please confirm that this is a joke
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 09:11 GMT
#1904
I thought so but I just want to be 100% sure

people have tried to pass off even crazier shit as true before

ahem caller ahem
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 09:13 GMT
#1906
On April 13 2011 18:11 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 18:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Protact would choose his #1 black target to make a scum analysis on. I have a hard time believing he thought Chaoser was assassin over kitaman27.

If he's black and wrong, we don't lynch him. We certainly don't protect him. He simply dies night 2 and we take the loss in stride and move on.

On April 13 2011 18:04 urashimakt wrote:
On April 13 2011 18:01 Coagulation wrote:
I want you to feel that Flamewheel.
FEEL IT. THINK IT LONG AND HARD.
You damn well know you took a GAMBLE. And you lost buddy.
Its a shame you had to take me down with you. but you lost.

I look forward to his next claim, if that turns out to be the case.

+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From BrownBear:
Yes, there is a hidden role not mentioned in the OP. Don't tell anyone, but:

The Prismatist - You are the Prismatist. Once and only once per day/night cycle, you may make a role claim. If you manage to claim a red, black, green, and blue role before being hit or lynched, you win. You will be removed from the main game.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From urashimakt:
Is there a hidden role? Come on now, truthsies.


Goodnight.


Uh please confirm that this is a joke

Sorry im not willing to "take the loss in stride" when an assassin is spreading lies about me.

I wouldn't expect anybody regardless of alignment to say

"Oh yeah guys lynch me, that's the efficient and pro-town thing to do!"

Especially a player with a tendency to get as emotional and confrontational as you. But if you were in the town position in this scenario, I believe you'd be reasonable enough to do the same thing everyone else is doing. Voting for you.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 09:27 GMT
#1913
On April 13 2011 18:25 Coagulation wrote:
Why the fuck would flamewheel claim to be an assassin if he is a DT. IF HE WAS A DT DONT YOU THINK HE WOULD JUST PUSH HIS CAMPAIGN BASED ON HIM BEING A GODAMN TOWNIE AND JUST PLAY PRO TOWN AND GET IN SAFE. hell half the fucking TOWN wanted to vote him as MAYOR WHEN THEY KNEW HE WAS A GODAMN ASSASSIN. DO YOU KNOW HOW EASY HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN MAYOR IF HE DIDNT CLAIM ASSASSIN. Do you really think he would FAKE CLAIM ASSASSIN TO GET ELECTED IF HE WAS A GODAMN DT. HOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE?


he honestly would have gotten mayor easier if he didn't claim assassin in the first place anyway
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 09:36 GMT
#1916
I'll say this.

If flamewheel has doubts about his gamble his best bet for medic protection is to admit he is actually the assassin and lied.

So I expect if he is the assassin this will resolve itself because ultimately he's acting in his best interest and we still have almost 48 hours to go before anyone is dead.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 09:42 GMT
#1918
On April 13 2011 18:38 Coagulation wrote:
Fuck that thats stupid as fuck
DONT WASTE A FUCKING MED ON HIM. LET HIM DIE.

I'm not saying "medics protect him" Can you calm the fuck down and turn off caps lock?

This is all based on the assumption that there are TWO assassins and Flamewheel strongly believes you (over the much more black acting kitaman27) are the second assassin. You should be trying to convince HIM that you aren't the assassin, not US that you aren't scum.

In fact, if you are so sure that he is the assassin and this is his gamble why have you not done that? You're preaching to the wrong choir here if you really think about it.

Of course if you're mafia you have no reason to try to convince him. You'd know he was the detective you'd know he was right and you'd KNOW the only angle you can take is spreading distrust of HIM amongst the TOWN.

If you were TOWN trying to avoid being lynched by a fake claim by the assassin I would hope you'd realize he's acting in his own self interest and would certainly spare you/admit his lie if you could convince him you were not the assassin and that he could survive Night 2.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 14:36 GMT
#1936
On April 13 2011 18:50 Barundar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 18:42 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 13 2011 18:38 Coagulation wrote:
Fuck that thats stupid as fuck
DONT WASTE A FUCKING MED ON HIM. LET HIM DIE.

I'm not saying "medics protect him" Can you calm the fuck down and turn off caps lock?

This is all based on the assumption that there are TWO assassins and Flamewheel strongly believes you (over the much more black acting kitaman27) are the second assassin. You should be trying to convince HIM that you aren't the assassin, not US that you aren't scum.

In fact, if you are so sure that he is the assassin and this is his gamble why have you not done that? You're preaching to the wrong choir here if you really think about it.

Of course if you're mafia you have no reason to try to convince him. You'd know he was the detective you'd know he was right and you'd KNOW the only angle you can take is spreading distrust of HIM amongst the TOWN.

If you were TOWN trying to avoid being lynched by a fake claim by the assassin I would hope you'd realize he's acting in his own self interest and would certainly spare you/admit his lie if you could convince him you were not the assassin and that he could survive Night 2.

You scum hunting by guessing on the numbers of veterans and assassins in the game is making my brain hurt. Same when Rean comes and say Coag should die, no matter if Flamewheel is assassin or not.

Glad we have another 2 days to figure this out.

It's just fuel to the fire. DT claims he has a red hit. We lynch.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 14:38 GMT
#1937
On April 13 2011 22:10 bumatlarge wrote:
Since the thread is fresh in my head~

Lotta people run for mayor
Pandain claims DT (not DT of course)
Protactinum claims assasin
Doctor H gets mayor, lynches Kav because DH is probably scum and couldnt handle kav anylizing him
GM is scum pardoner
I diesel my way into the game
Night hits come, no mis-hits sad town
Prot is claims DT instead having checked coag and geting scum

That basically it in a nutshell, and there are a lot of people running around doing nothing (see serejai).

In fact, I don't remember prot actually saying that serjai, so please get vig'd.

You might notice my case against Kav began WAYYYYYYYYYY before he ever accused me. It started on Night 0 even.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 20:53 GMT
#2039
Lynching Flamewheel is a bad idea. He is guaranteed dead on night 2 if this Coag lynch is a bust anyway.

If he is black, it's a big waste of a lynch. I could consider not lynching Coagulation, but killing flamewheel is a waste of a lynch. Big time.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 22:35 GMT
#2056
On April 14 2011 07:18 Kenpachi wrote:
Scum Team
Coagulation
Barundar
GMarshal
RedFF
Mister Wiggles
Robellicose
ilovejonn
~~~~~~

-runs away like a noob who accuses people and dont post reasons why they are scum because their reason for believe they are scum is actually bandwagoning other people's idea on the people they accused-

lol this is almost identical to my list
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 22:40 GMT
#2060
On April 14 2011 07:38 M0nsterChef wrote:
If we lynch coagulation and he flips green, then do we automatically lynch FW?

Also: which people do you guys think deserve dt/ tracker checks?

It won't matter because he will die to assassins on Night 2.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 22:44 GMT
#2063
I disagree hugely with a large part of your analysis on Rean, I'll talk about that later with you.

Out of that list who do you suspect?

Barundar
Coagulation
GMarshal
RedFF
ilovejonn

are all on my shitlist.
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
April 13 2011 23:15 GMT
#2079
On April 14 2011 08:04 aidnai wrote:
LSB, I'm glad you're with us. I don't think anyone took time to say 'hi' to you yet, so, hi!

Your thought process regarding protact pretty much mirrored mine, so naturally I kinda trust you at the moment. I'd love to have you on board with the lynching rean, so tell me what you think please!


Show nested quote +
On April 14 2011 07:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I disagree hugely with a large part of your analysis on Rean, I'll talk about that later with you.
...

You replied so fast I don't think you read it. Also there's only one large part to my analysis on rean, and I don't see how you can disagree with it... T.T

And, to take care of this for now,

##Vote: Rean

I read 300 words a minute bruh don't underestimate me IM A WIZARD
RIP Aaliyah
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