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kitaman27
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On April 15 2011 07:07 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 07:02 kitaman27 wrote:On April 15 2011 07:02 LSB wrote:On April 15 2011 06:59 kitaman27 wrote:On April 15 2011 06:58 LSB wrote:On April 15 2011 06:53 kitaman27 wrote:On April 15 2011 06:52 LSB wrote:
Happy birthday Protactinium!
And on a somewhat related note, lets lynch him. I've already explained why he's been lying over and over. I have no idea why people are trying to lynch coag.
Why do you keep arguing for lyching Prot. Why waste a lynch when the assassins can take care of him tonight? Cause Coag is a vet, and I'd rather lynch a Assassin over a vet. Wouldn't you rather lynch scum (other than coag), than an assassin? Who else is up for the lynch? Are you not going to bother looking and settle for black? Prot is probably mafia, I've already explained why it is very likely. In addition I don't believe that Metalface has enough on him to call him red.
I guess I know why no one else found Metalface suspicious. This post from LSB hints to the fact that he probably knew Metal was clean and unlynchable. I'm willing to give Red, or whoever his replacement is, some degree of credibility for being the only other person that thought something was off with Metal.
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On April 16 2011 01:00 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 17:55 chaoser wrote:
Yeah, I don't think he needed to be reported. We should have ordered a code red. Let's try to take care of things in-house first, people, before bringing in an outside authority. Chain of Command yo. Exactly. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, please PM BrownBear, Meapak, or myself. If you are still unsatisfied after talking to us, then you can use your report button. But I would appreciate the opportunity to deal with things in house before we involve the TL staff.
We have a report button???
Also is this game still on?
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Yeah, game is still on till host posts the GG post. Also, medics/watchers, I'd advise protecting either hte bodyguards, bum, cubed, or me. If you haven't figured out yet that we should be trusted, facepalm
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Yeah I think the game is still on. And mafia, don't give up. There is still 7 of you, and I'm sure some of you have gone undetected. When we start mislynching town morale can drop fast, leading to a bunch of afk people, making it will get very hard to find the last of you.
On the plus side, a bunch of people I was suspicious of before I'm now sure is town (HI DRH).
I'm not certain protac is an assassin:
1) Claiming assassin to judge reactions and use that as a rough filter for who to focus on sounds like the kind of gambit Ver would pull off as town.
2) The timing of the DT claim was off. He claimed as soon as day post hit, which means
a) that he could have just gotten the red check back.
b) He was certain without using the extra time of day before making his case. In other words he didn't need to analyze behavior any further to be certain. If he was an assassin that only had one shot, he could have used that extra time.
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On April 16 2011 01:22 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 01:00 Qatol wrote:On April 15 2011 17:55 chaoser wrote:
Yeah, I don't think he needed to be reported. We should have ordered a code red. Let's try to take care of things in-house first, people, before bringing in an outside authority. Chain of Command yo. Exactly. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, please PM BrownBear, Meapak, or myself. If you are still unsatisfied after talking to us, then you can use your report button. But I would appreciate the opportunity to deal with things in house before we involve the TL staff. We have a report button??? Also is this game still on?
You get a report button after being on TL for 1 year. So you will get yours in mid November. And yes, this game is still on.
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lol i forget jackal is a newbie =p
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I'll take that as a compliment.
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Serejai is definitely not mafia. If he is replaced I think he deserves a medic.
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On April 16 2011 01:12 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 07:07 LSB wrote:On April 15 2011 07:02 kitaman27 wrote:On April 15 2011 07:02 LSB wrote:On April 15 2011 06:59 kitaman27 wrote:On April 15 2011 06:58 LSB wrote:On April 15 2011 06:53 kitaman27 wrote:On April 15 2011 06:52 LSB wrote:
Happy birthday Protactinium!
And on a somewhat related note, lets lynch him. I've already explained why he's been lying over and over. I have no idea why people are trying to lynch coag.
Why do you keep arguing for lyching Prot. Why waste a lynch when the assassins can take care of him tonight? Cause Coag is a vet, and I'd rather lynch a Assassin over a vet. Wouldn't you rather lynch scum (other than coag), than an assassin? Who else is up for the lynch? Are you not going to bother looking and settle for black? Prot is probably mafia, I've already explained why it is very likely. In addition I don't believe that Metalface has enough on him to call him red. I guess I know why no one else found Metalface suspicious. This post from LSB hints to the fact that he probably knew Metal was clean and unlynchable. I'm willing to give Red, or whoever his replacement is, some degree of credibility for being the only other person that thought something was off with Metal.
Bodyguards aren't unlynchable but it would be pretty retarded for mafia to push for their lynch. I think LSB is definitely mafia and I'm glad you posted this it only makes me more confident.
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On April 16 2011 02:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Serejai is definitely not mafia. If he is replaced I think he deserves a medic.
Considering you thought GMarshal was definitely not mafia after his fake DT claim, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.
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On April 16 2011 02:23 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 02:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Serejai is definitely not mafia. If he is replaced I think he deserves a medic. Considering you thought GMarshal was definitely not mafia after his fake DT claim, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.
He claimed blue outside the thread. It's not fair that I'm the only person who knows about it, but really I have a hard time not thinking he's blue in this game after reading these posts:
On April 14 2011 06:08 Serejai wrote:
Er, what's the difference? I thought the object of the game was to not let people get a read on you. If I posted normal then the mafia would probably figure out I'm a blue due to my inexperience in posting and murder me.
On April 14 2011 07:39 Serejai wrote:
Oh... I guess I didn't really think of it that way. I was trying to just follow other people's advice and do my role each night because I've been afraid to mis-analyze someone.
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On April 15 2011 10:51 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 10:50 GMarshal wrote:On April 15 2011 10:47 kitaman27 wrote:
GMarshal, if you pardon, you are guaranteed to get lynched tomorrow. Don't even think about it. I'm not letting the assassin win. Hang me if you must. I ran on policy and principles. I will uphold those now. FIGHT FOR THE TOWN! Don't pardon. Let coag die, it will green me and you, and red Flamewheel
Find this post pretty interesting.
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Alright.
If you wish to be replaced, please PM me informing so. I may not notice if people post in thread. However, that said, the number of people asking for replacements is getting absolutely ridiculous.
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can i replace them?
i can be two people at once i think
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On April 16 2011 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 02:23 GGQ wrote:On April 16 2011 02:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Serejai is definitely not mafia. If he is replaced I think he deserves a medic. Considering you thought GMarshal was definitely not mafia after his fake DT claim, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. He claimed blue outside the thread. It's not fair that I'm the only person who knows about it, but really I have a hard time not thinking he's blue in this game after reading these posts: Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 06:08 Serejai wrote:
Er, what's the difference? I thought the object of the game was to not let people get a read on you. If I posted normal then the mafia would probably figure out I'm a blue due to my inexperience in posting and murder me. Show nested quote +On April 14 2011 07:39 Serejai wrote:
Oh... I guess I didn't really think of it that way. I was trying to just follow other people's advice and do my role each night because I've been afraid to mis-analyze someone.
Read his few posts where he's not acting like an idiot. He's not that stupid. Look how he's going out of his way to emphasize that he's blue, that he has a role, etc. I don't believe it for a second.
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On April 16 2011 02:37 GGQ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2011 02:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On April 16 2011 02:23 GGQ wrote:On April 16 2011 02:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Serejai is definitely not mafia. If he is replaced I think he deserves a medic. Considering you thought GMarshal was definitely not mafia after his fake DT claim, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. He claimed blue outside the thread. It's not fair that I'm the only person who knows about it, but really I have a hard time not thinking he's blue in this game after reading these posts: On April 14 2011 06:08 Serejai wrote:
Er, what's the difference? I thought the object of the game was to not let people get a read on you. If I posted normal then the mafia would probably figure out I'm a blue due to my inexperience in posting and murder me. On April 14 2011 07:39 Serejai wrote:
Oh... I guess I didn't really think of it that way. I was trying to just follow other people's advice and do my role each night because I've been afraid to mis-analyze someone. Read his few posts where he's not acting like an idiot. He's not that stupid. Look how he's going out of his way to emphasize that he's blue, that he has a role, etc. I don't believe it for a second.
I do simply because of how everyone reacted when I informed the mods of this potential cheating. Obviously, if he was red this would have been serious serious cheating but rather than having anything done about it he simply resigned out of frustration.
This is getting a little bit too meta. But I think that this is just newbie slip. If his replacement acts incredibly scummy, I'd reconsider.
It's worth a late DT check for confidence.
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An update on GGQ's thoughts:
Be very careful about listening to flamewheel/protact anymore, on the off chance that he survives the night. The only reason his coagulation analysis was given any weight is because he was trying to convince us that he's a dt so he had to finger a red. He now knows that we all know he's an assassin, so if he's playing to his win condition then we can't trust any further analysis by him.
I think I now know why he was keeping his list of other suspects a secret until after the lynch: he wants to use them as a bargaining chip to gain protection. He's now going to say that he is pretty sure of all the mafia and he will tell us who they are if he survives until the morning. Wait for it.
I want to question the use of medics/watchers on the bodyguards. I don't want to offend anyone here, but The_Roist and MetalFace are hardly valuable players in and of themselves. And they are protecting DrH, whom I am still not 100% sure is town, and who has (imo) been making pretty bad calls for most of the game (and he's claimed vet, so he'd take two hits for mafia to kill anyway). I would rather see the survival of a few strong town players that have been doing well this game, like chaoser and bumatlarge (though his attempt to take all the credit for lynching GMarshal is insulting at best and suspicious at worst...) and, dare I say it, me. I think the best thing is to have our medics consider protecting the bodyguards (if mafia want to double stack to kill MetalFace or The_Roist, that's ok with me...) and watchers must be on the other players I named, or on other players that they have good town reads on (maybe Barundar or kitaman?). I see the mafia going for other town players, not the mayor tonight, imo.
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On April 16 2011 03:02 GGQ wrote:
An update on GGQ's thoughts:
Be very careful about listening to flamewheel/protact anymore, on the off chance that he survives the night. The only reason his coagulation analysis was given any weight is because he was trying to convince us that he's a dt so he had to finger a red. He now knows that we all know he's an assassin, so if he's playing to his win condition then we can't trust any further analysis by him.
I think I now know why he was keeping his list of other suspects a secret until after the lynch: he wants to use them as a bargaining chip to gain protection. He's now going to say that he is pretty sure of all the mafia and he will tell us who they are if he survives until the morning. Wait for it.
I want to question the use of medics/watchers on the bodyguards. I don't want to offend anyone here, but The_Roist and MetalFace are hardly valuable players in and of themselves. And they are protecting DrH, whom I am still not 100% sure is town, and who has (imo) been making pretty bad calls for most of the game (and he's claimed vet, so he'd take two hits for mafia to kill anyway). I would rather see the survival of a few strong town players that have been doing well this game, like chaoser and bumatlarge (though his attempt to take all the credit for lynching GMarshal is insulting at best and suspicious at worst...) and, dare I say it, me. I think the best thing is to have our medics consider protecting the bodyguards (if mafia want to double stack to kill MetalFace or The_Roist, that's ok with me...) and watchers must be on the other players I named, or on other players that they have good town reads on (maybe Barundar or kitaman?). I see the mafia going for other town players, not the mayor tonight, imo.
Contradiction much?????
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The death of the bodyguards is not a good thing. I think the best bet is for the watchers to stick on BG's to deter mafia from hitting them while medics protect bigger town targets. Particularly bumatlarge.
You didn't really do much yesterday that I was aware of. You come out today just to criticize me and post thoughts on what blues to do, that hardly warrants medics imo.
Yeah I made some bad calls but the flamewheel vs GGQ thing was complex and my plan involving forcing GGQ to use his check would have outed him/coagulation over the course of the night. I still think my analysis on LSB is good and lynching him would have flipped scum. I'm looking over my LSB analysis again and he could very well be assassin. His goal is more focused on hitting Protactinium than it is on saving Coagulation, but he does seem to be in agreeance with GMarshal. When he comes out to attack the pardon he does so very lightly but otherwise ignores GMarshal completely. That sets off a red alarm to me.
I admit the kavdragon lynch was a shitty call. Although I don't really think I deserve a lot of criticism for the fact that I didn't hit red it was the fact that I ignored a better case because of my tunneling and that was poor decision making on my part.
Regardless, GMarshal the scum pardoner is now dead, I undoubtedly had a role in that. And now hopefully a vig will hit coagulation and an assassin will hit LSB. One of the LSB/ilovejonn camp is certainly an assassin so I really suggest other assassins out there place a hit in that direction.
This is the post that made me lean a bit toward black rather than red on LSB:
Don't pardon. Let coag die, it will green me and you, and red Flamewheel
The goal here is to confirm himself (appeals to GMarshal by saying it'll confirm him too) and get rid of Flamewheel. Entirely possible this is part of a plan to fake a vig on Coagulation to save him, but looking at Coag's recent posts it seems he's pretty much being abandoned.
Assassin's you have 3 KP. I'm 50/50 scum/assassin read on this guy. You have a pretty good shot with this and if he flips red and not black, I'm certainly not complaining.
Watchers/medics whether you care about the bodyguards or not is up to you but I hope we can all agree on those two points:
-An assassin should hit LSB
-Coagulation should be vig'd
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by GGQ you mean Gmarshal?
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