Insane Mafia 2

Part 2 posting etiquette.

All posts must be rhymed Shakespearian sonnets, if your player number is even, and in cipher with a shift equal to your PM number (explained below) if your player number is odd. Everyone must talk like a pirate if your PM number is even and like a communist if its odd, these rules are inverted on odd numbered days, except day 7 where everyone must post like a possessed cultist. All voting must be accompanied by a personal attack on a player you are not voting for, unless your player number is within + or – the square root of his, in which case you must buddy up to him. The votes must be in Red Bolded size 34 font. All posts must include one funny picture or amusing youtube video, if the picture is deemed not funny by 3 players then you are in violation of this rule and will be lynched on any day that is a multiple of 3. Failure to comply will lead to your lynch (on a nonprime day).

On March 24 2011 04:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

Are you Nick Murado?

On March 24 2011 08:04 Kavdragon wrote:
-_-

Anyone who doesn't keep up the level of activity that they have shown pre-game will receive my wrath. Also, whoever said that this wouldn't reach the amount of pre-game spam as RoL's game? I'm pretty sure this just blew that record out of office.

I will announce my possible campaign upon receiving my role PM.

On March 24 2011 08:19 kitaman27 wrote:


Pssh, that's the oldest excuse in the book.

On March 24 2011 11:08 ilovejonn wrote:

If you were to be elected a mayor, who would you put your vote on and how would you come about it? Or are you not voting and just letting others vote and you will only be deciding on the lynch based on votes?

On March 24 2011 11:13 ilovejonn wrote:

That didn't answer my question. I'm asking if you will be counting yourself as 1 vote or not, and if you are, who will you be voting? Lurkers? Someone you think is scum? Inactives? Spammers?

On March 24 2011 11:21 Jackal58 wrote:

I don't defend scum.
I don't get every vote wrong.
I don't like banana puppies.

Only a mafia mayor will endorse a day 1 lynch. Day 1 is a crapshoot. Day 1 is controlled by scum. A mayor that abdicates his power of lynch on day 1 to a vote is a scum mayor.
He knows town can't find his ass with both hands on day 1.
He knows scum is strongest on day 1
He knows a vote will be wrong.

A vote for me is a vote for town. I'm not promising you guys a bandwagon vote.
I'm promising you guys I will vote for who I think is scum. I also promise I can listen to all arguments for and against everybody and will accept or reject what I believe to be right or wrong.

A mayor that promises to lynch according to votes is scum.

On March 24 2011 11:37 chaoser wrote:
His three reasons are in-jokes tnkted, GM didn't do so well last game, that's all.

1. I'm a noobie. This means that i am absolutely not a threat to anyone, and am therefore a prime target for early mafia kills. I could use the human shields!

Actually noobies usually don't get NKed till late game cause mafia obviously wants to kill all the vets.

On March 24 2011 11:42 Jackal58 wrote:

That's called wifom Mr Psych major.

On March 24 2011 11:47 Jackal58 wrote:


Pahlease bitch. I'm married.
No need to get personal.

On March 24 2011 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:


Ok this is pretty simple. Barring extremes, a person in the police can claim freely and be elected mayor. Either mafia or third party would have to trade their entire squad to stop the police from doing this. Agree to this or not, it basically gives us a townie with a pre-set townie circle as mayor. So if you are a green townie it would be in your best interest to drop out of the race if this is to gain momentum.

The extremes of course would be the game setup for-seeing this and giving scum and third party methods to circumvent this.
1) Infiltration. I have a really strong gut feeling that certain team members will have alternate win conditions. So police should decide amongst them who would be the best mayor and most likely town affiliated person.
2) ??? It's insane mafia, so this could backfire, but it beats me how. Any suggestions or criticisms are NECESSARY, because what the fuck do I know. Insane #1 raped me.

On March 24 2011 11:57 chaoser wrote:
Also, something I'd like to point out



We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8)

On March 24 2011 12:00 annul wrote:






if you are married, then as he said, he gets laid waaaaaay more often than you.

On March 24 2011 12:03 Coagulation wrote:



all the more reason to vote for jackal.
he already confirmed himself town.
remember i know my shit when it comes to day 1 claims to town.
jackal is town

On March 24 2011 12:05 Coagulation wrote:
Because he had absolutely no idea what the setup was for scum

On March 24 2011 12:17 bumatlarge wrote:




I'm fairly certain the police force does not contain ALL the blues in the game. In fact, it would be too strong if most of the normal blue powers were dispersed among the non-police.

On March 24 2011 12:30 GMarshal wrote:

what? Where the HELL are you getting that they are bulletproof? they are not SK's they are a third party faction, think of them as scum team two if thats better. 4 bullet proof people would be ridiculous

Black Third Party- This is the hidden faction. Backed They all are bulletproof so they don’t die so easily

On March 24 2011 12:57 Coagulation wrote:
nm i didnt see scumatlarge's post.

well between the two of them we got good candidates.

On March 24 2011 13:01 chaoser wrote:


Yeah I realized compromising isn't a good idea at all which is why I wrote:



I will follow town's vote.

On March 24 2011 13:04 chaoser wrote:


I guess, but Kav also is onboard with the letting town vote thing too so it's pretty much voting v. no voting. At this point I want to see how this bum/blue situation plays out. I'm going to think long and hard about if it has a big flaw in it or not.

On March 25 2011 02:09 Jackal58 wrote:

Was that to me?

On March 25 2011 07:14 annul wrote:


rofl

1. my policy is "any item game player is better than current slate of candidates." given that, of course i am going to try to get the mayorship. my policy for determining lynch? kill who i think is black.

2. what abilities? nobody has any abilities yet.

3. [citation needed]

On March 25 2011 07:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok so I decided to come back and read the thread (procrastination ftw :D) and I'm getting a little disturbed by the opposition to Bum. It's quite simple really; if there's no counter claim than thats that and I feel like enough time has passed that any reasonable blue team would have cc'd by now (unless of course they are waiting for their roles as someone already said). The people who are fighting against Bum are starting to sound scummy with their incessent "What ifs." People, THERE HAS BEEN NO CC. There are now roles, there is no way for a red or black to have a power that lets them get away with this. We've yelled for a CC long enough and it hasn't come. Let's all agree to elect Bum and start discussing lynch targets. Ok no first let's pick a back up for Bum in case someone claims. I'm content with Kav at this point, not sure what everyone else thinks.

Moral of my story is this. Let's just drop the Bum discussion, he's 99% confirmed and it's of little use discussing him further unless we get a claim, right now we're just going in circles. To cover our asses we should all pick a secondary candidate (mine will be Kav) and then get on with the lynch discussion.

On March 25 2011 07:19 tnkted wrote:


What?

On March 25 2011 08:37 Tackster wrote:
tnkted am i misunderstanding or are you claiming you know your role (as opposed to alignment)?

On March 25 2011 11:02 GMarshal wrote:
cool, are we done posting pics of kittens?

@Tackster if you had a confirmed red and a confirmed black which would you lynch first and why?

@tnkted what two other players would you like to have with you if you were to go to lylo?

(yes I *will* persist in asking random questions unless the discussion is going somewhere)

On March 25 2011 19:42 CubEdIn wrote:
While I do agree that there are a few players who look scummy, I would also suggest we put some hard pressure on the lurkers. Especially those who are also in the item game.

I mean, yes, annul seemed very anti-town so far, and I would also get rid of such players, but he was trying to make his case and at least we have a lot of pages of posts to analyse, if need be. The quiet ones are always the ones that are hiding something.

On March 17 2011 18:48 Lemonwalrus wrote:
/in
if you are even still letting people in?

It is my first time, but I promise to read the rules thoroughly after class today and come prepared.

On March 24 2011 11:39 Lemonwalrus wrote:

Actually it is black and baby-blue.

This is tl.

On March 24 2011 11:47 Lemonwalrus wrote:

Well, I think that the 'vote or no vote for day 1 lynch' platform is a moot point.

Someone running with a day 1 vote could easily be mafia, since mafia would have a good shot at tipping the vote, especially now when there is no real suspicion on anyone. Then again they could easily be not mafia and just want to use the vote as a way to win the popular vote to make a vote for them seem like a vote for fairness.

Similarly, someone running no day 1 vote could easily be mafia since, obviously getting a free kill day 1 is good for mafia. But they could easily be not mafia and just trust their own mafia sniffing capabilities better than that of the town in the case of a vote.

So basically, as of right now, I have not seen any compelling reasons to vote for anyone, I'm gonna wait to see how the debates continue and vote for whoever I think has the strongest ideas for further down the road. Idk, this is my first game though, so maybe I'm thinking too hard about it.

On March 25 2011 03:09 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Sorry about the one-liners from before...it is my first time, I didn't realize that was inappropriate. I promise to make all future posts of mine painfully and needlessly verbose.

As far as the bum/not bum vote, I think bum is the best bet for the town for reasons that have already been discussed at length. (the biggest one for me being that I think if he wasn't blue by now one of the real blues would have surely counter-claimed) (If you are a blue and therefore know that bum isn't, please, there is no reason for you not to counter claim) So unless someone gives one hell of a compelling reason for me not to I intend to vote bum.

As far as the irc channels goes, well, gather round fellas, because I may be new to mafia, but I am an old hand at irc. I think having an irc for this is a very bad idea. Basically, it is just a more fast paced version of the forum which, on the one hand i know we all think 'well that is good it gives the scum more of a chance to fuck up and reveal themselves when they are under the gun' but the thing is, everyone will fuck up sooner or later. I'm sure if we do an irc channel literally everyone that participates will, sooner or later, say something that convinces someone that they are scum. That is what happens when you are able to share information without thinking hard about it first. (for instance, look at my signature...do you think any of those guys (besides aesop) would have said those things if they had had time to re-read it before clicking a post button?)

Also, I see a major component of the irc channel debate will be 'x isn't active in irc, he must be scum' or 'x is too active in irc, he must be scum' basically wifom madness imo, since with imperfect data either choice will put suspicion on a player and, since town outnumbers scum, more suspicion floating around should benefit scum.

So I vote no on irc and yes on bum, and the above are my reasons.

On March 25 2011 03:17 Lemonwalrus wrote:
wtf the more i post the more i get crap for not posting, what do you guys want from me (((((


Also I hadn't even thought of the impersonating people on irc thing that GMarshal brought up in his post. That is yet another convolution that irc will bring to the process. (although if we caught someone impersonating it would make it pretty obvious they were scum...so a potential for reward if a scum were to be so bold as to impersonate someone)

I think the real problem with the irc is that there is such a thing as too much information when you are trying to make a decision. If we have pages and pages of posts and pages and pages of irc logs to go by, 2 sides could make bulletproof arguments for one person being scum/not scum, and it could be almost impossible to tell who was right with any sort of objectivity.

Also....picking through irc logs sounds really tedious. I know that has no importance in the function of the game, but I just feel it will be less fun with a mountain of irc logs...and I kinda want to have fun.

On March 26 2011 01:11 Jackal58 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

So since he's not you he's scum?

On March 26 2011 02:25 Jackal58 wrote:

Meh. More like:

On March 26 2011 09:48 Insanious wrote:
Although, we need to get off that point... the point I was trying to make, that others pointed out... is that BrownBear is NORMALLY very active in a mafia game. He puts out oppinions, and tries to scum hunt. In THIS game, he is NOT talkative, and is NOT scum hunting.... he has what, 2 posts so far.

BrownBear is playing drastically different then a normal game, and as such I am calling SCUM. Since I have only played with him when he is town, and when I played with him he talked a lot.

In this game, he isn't talking, therefore not playing the same as town, therefore not town. He is black or red.

On March 26 2011 12:29 tnkted wrote:
coag, dont post anything until jackal responds to it. i want to see what he finds first.

On March 26 2011 12:47 Insanious wrote:

You do realize Coag responded to your post with his own bread crumb right... :/

On March 26 2011 13:36 bumatlarge wrote:
Yeah comparing PMs seems like a dishonest way to trick mafia. Thats not really how I want to win. If LSB is allowing breadcrumbs to how your PMs are worded or words in them, then I think he knows this is going to fuck up your plan.

In fact, I'm sure of it. If determining mafia was as easy as that I would not be playing the game.

On March 26 2011 23:53 deconduo wrote:
Also note this:



Tack got the townie PM, Jackal didn't.

On March 27 2011 00:39 Tackster wrote:
@tnkted If you think Jackal and darmo are scum why are you voting darmo first?

Surely you think Jackal is more scum and also we don't want to split the vote so shouldn't you vote jackal?

Also you picked the mayor no one likes as mayor instead of the person we're calling clear...

tnkted what's going on?

On March 27 2011 01:43 Jackal58 wrote:

Actually your inability to recognize an alignment PM makes me think you're red or black.


Sorry I don't remember your name and when I'm making a post referring to you I'm typing what comes to mind. I'm not stopping to go look for the correct spelling. I'll eventually get it right but so far everybody knows who I'm talking about.

Calling me scum because you had me looking for your stupid clues from my role PM is a bit condescending too. If you meant alignment PM you should have said alignment PM not Role alignment.
And then use that to call me scum. Pffftttt.
Maybe you should inform everybody you pooched your post.

On March 27 2011 07:30 Jackal58 wrote:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8452176

Already covered that.

On March 28 2011 00:00 deconduo wrote:
@Blacks

If you want town to win the item game over reds (which I assume you do) kill Lemon tonight.

On March 28 2011 02:08 Tackster wrote:


Do not be putting down my compliment dog. i'm a smurf of a playa with skillz

On March 28 2011 03:40 bumatlarge wrote:


My scumlist looks like a christmas tree getting smashed against a rainbow. I think you are like an ultraviolet ray bouncing off a particularly gaudy-looking ornament.

Another person started giggling at gifts he left people.

On March 28 2011 11:21 LSB Banking wrote:

Assuming there is a bus driver role, you are not notified if the bus driver switches you.

He's a sneaky little guy.

On March 28 2011 12:18 Jackal58 wrote:

He used it. Passive protection. He still has it. Coag still has his gun. It's not a fire and forget it's his unless somebody steals it from him.
I have no idea how you came to conclusion #4

Well, looks like people aren't really using their items well. Only one person was able to use his item.

Well, looks like people aren't really using their items well. Only one person was able to use his item.

On March 28 2011 12:38 Coagulation wrote:



i did he completely ignored it.
LOL

On March 28 2011 17:21 bumatlarge wrote:
Excellent, sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but I have access to a DT within my circle. We checked lemonwalrus. He came back blue police force

While that makes no sense whatsoever since blues cant be in the item game. And of course he is not in my circle.

He has to be the GodFather

On March 28 2011 15:41 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Found it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172696&currentpage=42#840


I remember KJ guessed who the medic type role was then used it to give the mafia a bunch of free protections.

On March 29 2011 01:18 chaoser wrote:
Also, annul was



not a bodyguard so yeah...

On March 29 2011 01:20 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Doesn't the mayor have 2 BG's? How would bum have died last night? That is the one part I don't get.
LSB, if a mayor got bussed would it bypass his bodyguard protection and transfer it to the other bussed person?

On March 29 2011 01:25 Jackal58 wrote:

Really?????

On March 29 2011 01:28 Jackal58 wrote:

And when would these checks have occurred?

On March 29 2011 01:34 chaoser wrote:


Highly doubt this...we didn't even have role PMs yet.

On March 29 2011 01:35 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah, no.

I do believe that you're the bus driver and have switched bum and lemon, otherwise the lemon check wouldn't have made sense in a LOT of scenarios.

Now, we still need to figure out why Tack didn't die. Two bus drivers might be a bit much indeed.
The only thing is, mafia thought Jackal would hit, not Coag, so whatever happened, couldn't have been a spell cast on Coag.

On March 29 2011 01:41 CubEdIn wrote:
Ah I see.

Well then, the only scenario that makes sense to ME right now is that Lemon is indeed red, tnked managed to screw up everyone with the awesome bus switch (since, you know, lemon was getting checked), and Tacked is caught in the middle.

The reason I'm saying this is that Day 2 is entitled confusion, and it's pretty clear that Coag didn't know why he shot annul.
I don't know, I've just been getting a good vibe from tack this whole game, and I don't think LSB would place a newbie in a 4-man-mafia team, and then place HIM in the item game. I know it's meta-game and shouldn't be considered, but come on, it makes much more sense for Lemon to be the scum.

Besides, we can solve this by killing both, someone get medics on Jackal/Coag and kill the other two. Easy peasy.

And yes, I'm considering that Jackal is town.

On March 29 2011 03:00 deconduo wrote:


Tack had my PM pretty much spot on, including the green highlighting of the word townie. Same for Jackal.

On March 29 2011 03:01 Insanious wrote:

Um, actually, what we have is:

1) 1 shot on Lemon, bussed to Bum. Gmarshal took the hit
2) 1 Shot on annul from scum
3) 1 shot on Tack, mind controlled or bussed to Annul
4) 1 shot on kav that failed.

On March 29 2011 03:14 Insanious wrote:

But GMarshal would only die if it was bussed from Lemon to Bum

If it shot lemon, lemon would of just blocked the shot.

THis is unless Kav is lying.

Then it would of been

1) 1 Shot on Annul
2) 1 Shot on Tack shifted to Annul
3) 1 Shot on Bum bussed to Lemon
4) 1 Shot on GMarshal

On March 29 2011 01:04 tnkted wrote:
Alright guys. Prepare for EARTH SHATTERING REVELATIONS

I know what happened last night. But first, a confession: I am the bus driver.



Last might my action was to bus Bum and Lemon. I didn't know what item lemon had. I figured jackal was mafia and was going to shoot tack, while the rest of the mafia killed lemon and coag, thereby winning mafia the item game. I didn't know that jackal had died, and I didn't know that lemon was bulletproof. So the reason that bum's check came back as blue is because he was checking himself.

Now, why would i switch bum and lemon, you might ask? Well, Bum is invincible. As long as his two bodyguards are alive he can't die. That means I could switch him with anyone and that person would live because all hits would be deflected off bum. Obviously I can't ever make this maneuver again because GM is dead and its too risky if the mafia gets the other bodyguard, but it was a good oneshot effort and would have won us the item game if mafia had tried to win it all at once. This maneuver had the happy side effect of confirming bum as blue, so yaay! I trust you again bum, I secretly figured you were scum for awhile.

So if I am the only bus driver, what happened last night? It would be stupid for there to be two bus drivers in the game. How was coags kill switched to annul?



Mind control. Coag was mind controlled to use his item on annul instead of on Tack. Thats why the post is written the way it is. I mean, read the damn thing. It's all about how he 'was confused as to why he was standing in front of annul'. Go read it again, it makes way more sense for it to be mind control. Also, the bus driver wouldn't have been mentioned elsewhere in the text if that had been what I did. Had that been my move, the bus driver wouldn't have been mentioned at all.

You guys are also missing the fact that Kav claimed somebody hit him last night. Thats an extra KP we haven't accounted for:

1. towns kp used to kill tack, shifted to annul
2. another random kp used to kill annul
3. KP used on GM
4. KP that failed (look at the DP again)
5. KP used on kav???

Mafia's Plan
Now before we delve into 5, lets examine 4 for a minute. GM is deader than a doornail. I have reason to believe that annuls role (outside of the item game) was bodyguard. I think last night the mafia hit GM and bum and used mind control to switch coags hit onto annul, therefore allowing them to kill the mayor and win the IG in one swoop. Coag would be dead due to the bomb, and the only people left in IG would be Jackal and Tack and Lemon.
Mafia almost killed bum, and I accidentally saved him by switching him and lemon.


0_0
How fucking lucky did town get last night?


We still haven't accounted for 5, or for the direction of black's kill. Black must have hit annul; that would explain why there were two kills in the same place. Why would black have hit annul? He was out of the item game, and everyone thought that annul's item was going to go off. I do not know this yet. I suspect bum has more ideas about this than I do. I do know that the reason why annul's item didn't go off is because he was stealing Tack's item during the night. That explains why annul has the mood ring and not Tack.

Now for the KP used on kav. What happened? Lets look at this list again, and I'll show you what I think happened:

1. towns kp used to kill tack, shifted to annul
2. another random kp used to kill annul
3. KP used on GM
4. KP that failed
5. KP used on kav???

There was no KP used on kav. There weren't enough KP in the game for that to happen. What happened was, my switch of lemon and bum saved bum's life from being ended and thats what the failed KP was: They managed to hit a bulletproof lemon instead of a suddenly weakened bum.

Kav claimed a hit in order to A) bring himself into town's good graces and B) to stop anyone from wondering if Bum was the other target. Kav is Mafia

Now who could possibly have orchastrated this plan from the mafia's perspective? such a person would

1. have to be in the item game
2. have to have known that coag was the one who was gonna hit Tack, not jackal

The only people that fit both of those descriptions are Lemon, Jackal, and Coag. Lemon is probably clear thanks to my breadcrumbing plan from earlier. He could easily not be, however, probably thanks to myself switching him and bum and accidentally foiling the DT check (sorry!).
Coag is definately a green thanks to breadcrumbing earlier.
Therefore, the true battle of red is between Lemon and Jackal. Both of them have much to gain if town lynches Tack, and both of them already think that Tack is the mafia. The question is which one of them is more scum than the other, and which one is playing the other for a fool.

Personally I believe Jackal is scum. I had a FOS on him early in the game and he hasn't done much to change my mind. He failed my breadcrumbing test after refusing to participate, he has tunnelled players multiple times, and chainsaw defended virtually every single accusation against him. This entire plan is exactly the sort of thing he'd cook up; killing everyone but himself and Tack and somebody that aggrees with him (lemon) and then convincing town that Tack had murdered everyone in the night and lynching him.

Who do we see supporting jackal on this? Who is supporting jackal even after Bum accused lemon?

Rean and Decon. Scum. Coag. Played for fool.

Coag, you even said that the only person who could have fooled you was jackal. Its whats happening right now, don't you see?! If you have more info (ie, dt check) I would release it right now.

Therefore, mafia list:

Kav
Rean
Decon
Jackal



And bum, I'd be very very careful with how you act from now on. I suspect the rest of my bus driving will be blocked by red/black, so I won't be able to save your ass again.

On March 29 2011 11:37 tnkted wrote:
I'm not going to say anymore about what I'm going to do because that would help mafia. Also, if nobody were to request my help that'd be fantastic because that would clue mafia into who i should save.

If there is a mason circle that can PM now would be the time to do so. :D

On March 30 2011 04:09 Jackal58 wrote:



I said it with love.

On March 30 2011 05:20 Jackal58 wrote:

I'm honestly thinking about asking tnkted to marry me.

On March 31 2011 02:14 Lanaia wrote:
Now I have to update my list. Thanks for all of the talking/behaviour. :D
1. RebirthOfLeGenD
2. Jackal58** - [See Lemonwalrus]
3. (OriginalName) - [I can't tell with him anymore.]
4. (Kenpachi)
5. deconduo
6. Kavdragon
7. darmousseh **
8. bumatlarge
9. GMarshal
10. Coagulation** - [See Lemonwalrus]
11. orgolove - Pretty much admitted to not even reading 50 pages. Town wouldn't do that. (likely) [Edit: I mean, reading them before he posts to say he's reading them.]
12. chaoser
13.( Meapak_Ziphh) - [Analyses are contribution more to town and generally acting more proactive and more protown. Also, happy birthday meapak!]
14. annul **
15. (kevconsim)
16. Mr. Wiggles
17. (CubEdIn) - [This one should be obvious.]
18. GGQ
19. (ilovejonn)
20. Amber[LighT] - Amber's getting everyone mixed up and I can't make sense of a lot of their posts.
21. BrownBear - Generally just doesn't seem town.
22. (Lemonwalrus)** - [I'm fairly certain neither Jackal nor Coag is scum, so PoE here.]
23. Rean
24. tnkted
25. (Tackster) ** - [I kind of feel stupid for thinking he was scum.]
26. Lanaia - I know my own alignment.
27. iGrok - iGrok, as scum, I've noticed, you tend to lurk as you are now. I don't feel many things that you've said are a huge asset to town. Speak more.
28. (Beneather) - [Meapak's analysis is actually what I've been thinking about about him for a while now.]
29. (Insanious)
30. (Eiii)
Bold or red (both is i'm not sure of which) = scum, green = townie/blue, italics = unsure.
Bracketed people are the ones I've had to edit.
If you want opinions that I haven't put up there, please say so.

On March 31 2011 04:04 Lanaia wrote:


Your hyperness made me happy. It's just what I needed to read, thank you.

May I ask, what is the difference between acting like town and acting like black in your world? I know not everyone sees it the same way. I'm just wondering.