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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 12 2011 21:37 GMT
#22
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초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 13 2011 05:35 GMT
#55
On March 13 2011 12:52 Qatol wrote:
Kinda random, but TL Mafia's very own Ver is playing in the WTR1BE LAN (stream is in the streams list - the iccup.tv stream) finals. 3rd-4th match (CoL.rsvp vs. tQ.Sadist bo5) is playing what may be the last match right now (Sadist is up 2-0 right now).

Ver will be playing FXO.Sheth (whom he already beat 3-2 in the quarterfinals) in a bo7 finals which starts right after the 3rd/4th match. If you're at all interested in sc2, Ver would definitely appreciate your support.

EDIT: 3rd/4th match is over. Go Ver!!!!


Good luck Ver.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 16 2011 09:18 GMT
#96
I'll be AWOL until the 21st. I doubt the game will fill by then, but if it does, I might not be able to start right away.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 24 2011 03:19 GMT
#416
Wait. Are the third party voters with the town? Else wouldn't it be too easy for them to just kill off all townies?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 24 2011 19:52 GMT
#602
Sorry. I've been busy with trip preparations - I have to drive ~1000 miles back and forth this weekend, and need to do a checkup on my car etc etc. Anyway - How can we trust bum when he roleclaimed so early in the game? He's a great player - I don't think any decent actual blue would take the risk of revealing his role so early. He might actually be a black, trying to draw hits and confusing us with fake checks.

I'm thinking of what happened with annul in.. I think it was salem mafia or something - where he did an early roleclaim as a godfather, and everyone believed him after a cop confirm. That was absolutely disastrous for us.

There really is no logic for us to believe bum.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 24 2011 21:49 GMT
#668
There's still nothing that proves that bum is actually a blue as he claims to be. He could just as easily have a roleswitching/godfather role that is practically impossible to prove in a game such as this that has no reveal on death. I don't understand why you guys are blindly trusting his claim. We've been burned by the reds before...

And I love how bum immediately puts me under his suspicion list because I'm not blindly sheeping like the rest of the town.

Anyway. If push comes to shove, I'd rather support Kavdragon than you.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 24 2011 22:10 GMT
#680
Damn, I'm confusing this with the other game that had no role reveal upon death with this game's dice roll bots upon modkill/

Bum, you're immediately resorting to accusing me just because I'm focusing on the more questionable aspects of your candidacy. I'd think it's logical to extensively question such an early roleclaim...

Do blues know who each other are? Is this a mason group?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 24 2011 22:16 GMT
#691
Sorry, it's been a few months since my last game - will do so. Didn't think it was too different.


I'm still hesitant to completely trust bum. Given the alternative, I'd rather believe Kav's skills than bum's oversight, as shown by his mistake in revealing his blue-ship so early.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 24 2011 22:22 GMT
#698
On March 25 2011 07:20 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 07:16 orgolove wrote:
Sorry, it's been a few months since my last game - will do so. Didn't think it was too different.


I'm still hesitant to completely trust bum. Given the alternative, I'd rather believe Kav's skills than bum's oversight, as shown by his mistake in revealing his blue-ship so early.


Where the fuck is this blue slip. Point to it.


Uhh...?

Your entire platform for mayoral candidacy...?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 25 2011 06:17 GMT
#1015
On March 25 2011 14:43 bumatlarge wrote:I think orgolove is a better choice. He mimicked annul in trying to put dirt on my claim without giving an alternative, which annul had (unfortunately for our readers). I'd like to hear more on dec and grok when you get the chance.


Except I did - note how I voted and supported Kav within my first few posts.

On March 25 2011 14:43 bumatlarge wrote:
I feel both deconduo and iGrok were just following the annul conversation I felt they needed to give their opinions. I haven't felt the same way you do. Maybe that's just because they are supporting me.


So if you're elected mayor, you'll overlook scummy behavior as long as they support you? lol in that case I'll support you as well! Seriously.


Are we really electing this guy who's shown such a clear instance of bias and "favoritism" for the mayorship? There's a better choice out there.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 25 2011 06:39 GMT
#1019
On March 25 2011 15:30 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 15:17 orgolove wrote:
On March 25 2011 14:43 bumatlarge wrote:I think orgolove is a better choice. He mimicked annul in trying to put dirt on my claim without giving an alternative, which annul had (unfortunately for our readers). I'd like to hear more on dec and grok when you get the chance.


Except I did - note how I voted and supported Kav within my first few posts.

On March 25 2011 14:43 bumatlarge wrote:
I feel both deconduo and iGrok were just following the annul conversation I felt they needed to give their opinions. I haven't felt the same way you do. Maybe that's just because they are supporting me.


So if you're elected mayor, you'll overlook scummy behavior as long as they support you? lol in that case I'll support you as well! Seriously.


Are we really electing this guy who's shown such a clear instance of bias and "favoritism" for the mayorship? There's a better choice out there.


When you're blindly supporting Kav? He hasn't posted any reasons on deconduo and I think iGrok's actions are perfectly explainable as town. I haven't much reason why these two are suspects, and until Kav gives his reasons or maybe you do (lol perish the thought), I don't feel they have shown much scuminess.


Blindly? I just trust his reasonable attitude and scumhunting abilities, both what he's showing right now and from previous experience, much more than your blue "slip" and power play gamble. Thanks to you, the entire first day has been wasted so far on debate of your alignment, when we have 30+ other players, 1/3rd of them of which are black or red.

What we need is levelheaded analysis and not a hotheaded accusation just based on how someone doesn't support you.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 26 2011 14:34 GMT
#1413
Sorry guys - still in the middle of a busy weekend here.


I just want to point out how there's no one else that's coming up to defend Jackal. I don't know if that's because no one wants to be associated with him when he flips, or if he's really a townie and we're doing it wrong...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 26 2011 14:44 GMT
#1415
..? I don't see anyone defending Jackal. If he was really a red/black or a part of a mason group, shouldn't there have been other people that rose up to defend him? I dunno...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 26 2011 14:55 GMT
#1419
WIFOM? Since when does pointing out some obvious ways he may not be a red/black counts as that?

Point is, no one's standing up to really defend him. Either the reds or blacks are really cutting him loose early, or he's actually a townie and we're missing the real targets. There hasn't been any counter-bandwagon formed, something that would've happened if he was a really crucial member of any of the the groups with the information.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 28 2011 05:10 GMT
#2229
Sorry guys, as mentioned before I was out of commission for ~36 hours.


Uh, last I remember Tackster was quite instrumental in getting annul elected. Didn't he support Annul quite strongly? And since he's been revealed as a green, I think we shouldn't just presume him to be a red so fast...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 28 2011 05:17 GMT
#2231
Ok. I keep confusing. The bodyguard died, not the mayor. Sorry.

I still can't see a real black or red working so hard to get a pretty clear pro-townie being elected as mayor:

On March 25 2011 05:00 Tackster wrote:
Mayoral Elections Recap: (In chronological order)

Tnkted [RETRACTED]
- Only person promising a 'free' vote (players decide n1 lynch)

GMarshal [RETRACTED]
- Reserves right to choose lynch
- Believes mafia/scum are heavily invested in getting the mayorship due to setup

Jackal [RETRACTED]
- Reserves right to choose lynch

Annul
- hasn't posted policy on d1 lynch
- poor listing of abilities
- claimed by several not to have good scumhunting

KavDragon
- hasn't posted policy on d1 lynch
- posting more about other people's campaigns then his own

GGQ
- hasn't posted policy on d1 lynch
- seems to have been forgotten about? Has posted since but reminded no one of his candidacy

BumAtLarge
- Offers to give his d1 lynch to RebirthOfLegends!!
- Claims Blue (Blue claim seems more due to logical motivation rather than a slip IMO)

RebirthOfLegend
- Reserves right to choose lynch
- Professes very strong scum hunting abilities
- Offers to stand down if there are no counter-claims to BumAtLarge alignment claim of blue

Kenpachi
- hasn't posted policy on d1 lynch
- Has mentioned his running twice but hasn't spoken of his abilities


On March 25 2011 05:01 Tackster wrote:
My analysis of the elections:

What do we need from our mayor?
The mayor lynches day 1. From many it has been made clear that as this lynch is a crapshoot it isn't terribly important who gets hit (Of course I care I just mean it doesn't carry much weight when you decide who is mayor).
For that reason the most important reason we try and stop a red/black alignment from getting the mayorship is longevity. We don't want to have to lynch his BGs to get at him. Because of this I have come to care less about the policy of d1 lynches in each campaign and more on whether or not they can scumhunt. This means I personally (and hopefully others) will worry about achieving a balance between paly experience and town telling when voting and NOT whether or not I have a say in the d1 lynch.

Outed Blue Candidate:
BumAtLarge has outed the fact that he is blue. What I don't understand is why people believe that we may end up with a 4-4 blue/black outing scenario. The way I see it a 50/50 lynch is an extremely pro-town opportunity. On that basis alone black should consider a blue cc. More to the point from towns POV the best thing to do is have a blue claim, wait for a cc and if it comes STOP THERE. We now have a 50/50 situation between 2 players and we don't need to vote either of them. I'm not going to bother explain why an uncced blue is clear so we then find that:

If a blue claims and there are no ccs he is clear.
If a blue claims and there are ccs NEITHER should be voted mayor.


Then our decision only becomes if the blue is cced do we want him as mayor. Personally I feel I would rather have a clear mayor with bad scumhunting abilities then a veteran played who is actually red/black.

I really want opinions on the above because I feel the fact I'm new might make that logic wrong. Tell me which you think is more important.

In BumAtLarges case I can see that while he doesn't have strong scum hunting skills (or so i hear) he could be clear. For me the decision is then probably made.

If a cc does turn up I would expect neither him nor his cc to be voted and instead someone else who meets the best balance on the veteran vs. townishness scale.

In fact in that situation I think the d1 lynch should probably be on the blue c.c.s.

Thats the end of my analysis rant. Next comes the voting so far...

On March 25 2011 05:05 Tackster wrote:
The information I have on the votes so far:
+ = semi-certain votes for
- = semi-certain votes against


Annul: (+1,-1)
RoL says annul 'doesn't suck' at voting
Meapak says he has 0 scumhunting abilities

Kav: (+1,0)
Jackal states he will vote Kav

GGQ: (0,0)
No mentions

Chaoser: (+1,-1)
Meapak says he will vote Chaoser if he doesn't retract
CubEdin is against a Chaoser vote

Bum: (+6,-1)
RoL will vote him in exchange for exclusive rights to his lynch
iGrok is voting Bum
Tntked is voting Bum
KavDragon does not support Bum
Meapak has Bum in his top 3
CubEdin supports Bum
Brownbear supports Bum
Coagulation opposes Bum

RoL: (0,0)
Meapak has RoL in his top 3

Ken: (0,0)
No mentions

Bum is in a clear lead here.


Issues I personally have with any candidates/tactics are as follows:

I feel Bum definitely cant give away his vote. The entire point behind voting a blue is having a stronger lynch chance d1 due to being clear and knowing the other blues. Even if giving the vote away means a stronger scum hunter would use it there is no way of knowing which alignment RoL is. If this were Epic Mafia I would be seriously worried about RoL for offering this trade as it seems against town. However things in forum mafia may be a bit different.

Chaoser made an interesting point which started a debate on whether to pick our mayor from the mini-game or not. The chances of picking mafia in the mini game are 33%. The chances of picking a mafia when the mini-game is excluded is 33%. The chances of picking mafia from the entire role of players is 33%. These numbers don't do us any favors. Seeing as having a clear from the mini-game is impossible, as there are no blues, I would urge this strategy not be employed. (Someone check my maths, but i'm pretty sure i'm right)

Chaoser mentioned he would sheep town on the mayoral vote - I personally cannot support a mayor that would leave anything up to chance, even an election.

Meapak mentioned that mafia 100% knows who town is:
Show nested quote +
Jackal is a little enigmatic to me. While I feel he's been pretty protown so far, Coag's insta confirm of him has me really suspicious. tbh I'm more suspicious of Coag because only the mafia know 100% who is town.

Perhaps I'm taking his view out of context but this seems to be wrong on several levels:
#1 Mafia know who isn't mafia, not who is town
#2 Surely the third party (seemingly a second mafia) would also 'know' town.
#3 Meapak may misunderstand the tactics mafia will use in this game

Also Meapak has asserted he wishes to vote Chaoser but will vote Bum if Chaoser retracts. This implies he thinks Bum is clear (if uncced) but wishes to go for an uncertainty anyway (i.e. tunneling the mayoral vote). Surely in this situation logic dictates his vote be changed to Bum and not be dependent on whether Chaoser stands?
Misreading and misvoting - 2 attributes I don't want to see in the mayor

Lastly - and I apologize to my roomate for this ():
Jackal voted almost midway during night 0. I think LSB made it clear that vote didn't count but it was still made.
Deconduo offered an official and serious FOS so soon into the game…

Guys inform me if it's normal to behave that way or if in fact it's rushing it a bit...



These are really intense, high information posts that I can't believe would come from a red or black. They'd have happily wanted the argument between whether to trust bum or not, but he tried to clarify all this.

Especially considering how he repeatedly said he's a mafia newb... I'm really hesitant about voting for him...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 28 2011 05:30 GMT
#2240
I'm going off of last reasonable information I remember. I have not yet had a chance to read over the other 50 pages of posts, but still want to contribute.

I'm just bringing into discussion the fact that he so strongly supported the clear blue even before most of the town was for him, and further made a lot of high information posts - all pretty strong contra-indicators of scum.

I see a bandwagon forming so easily without too much opposition, and my innate sense from being tricked so many times before makes me believe that we might be led by the nose without even realizing it.

Jackal's accusations may just be a sign of his frustration at being labeled anti-town despite his efforts that he put in the first days of this game. Hell, I sympathize with him a lot - in my first game I tried to set up a giant spreadsheet in a game with 40 people, and got nothing but grief at the hands of a lot of players, which certainly made me really frustrated.


Would a red or a black fight so hard and spend so much time in his first game to fight for a confirmed mason to be in the position of a mayor?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 28 2011 05:32 GMT
#2242
Damnit. I meant Tack, not Jack.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 28 2011 05:34 GMT
#2244
On March 28 2011 14:32 Coagulation wrote:
how stupid would you be to go against like the entire town?


At the time, only 6 players were for him. Several players, including annul, confirmed green, and me (green) and I think 1 other person were strongly questioning whether it was wise to trust someone who slipped critical information so early in the game with the job of a mayor.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 28 2011 06:17 GMT
#2260
On March 28 2011 15:07 Lanaia wrote:
11. orgolove - Pretty much admitted to not even reading 50 pages. Town wouldn't do that. (likely)


This is ridiculous. Did you not see the word yet? Where did I say that I am not going to read the past 50 pages? It's hard enough trying to find out the information among Coag's spam. But read over what I said carefully. Never did I say that I won't read the information.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 29 2011 00:55 GMT
#2634
I just read over most of the thread and the voting thread. Nothing in the thread 100% proves Tackster is red, as bum claims. In fact, the past ~30 or pages have only cast increasing doubt on coagulation's insistence... Tackster can't be a red. the only advantage of Reds and Blacks are information. But he did not know that coag was actually the one with the gun. All discussions about how his play of stealing rather than using the mood ring aside, I cannot understand why so many votes are still on Tackster.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 29 2011 02:58 GMT
#2698
LSB, does the "no abstain" rule only apply for the mayoral election, or does it apply forall votes?

Can I please see where coagulation specifically mentioned the stun gun issue? I don't remember reading Tackster talking about a stun gun at all.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 29 2011 03:49 GMT
#2717
On March 29 2011 12:03 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 11:58 orgolove wrote:
LSB, does the "no abstain" rule only apply for the mayoral election, or does it apply forall votes?

Can I please see where coagulation specifically mentioned the stun gun issue? I don't remember reading Tackster talking about a stun gun at all.


Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 15:44 Coagulation wrote:
ok guys i will let you know my item

I have a stun gun
if i choose to use it at night anyone that tries to hit me at night will be stunned and the hit will be prevented. additionally i can go through the stunned players belongings and get the alignment of that player
theres 1 more detail im leaving out cause it will only help scum knowing it.

However if i use the stun gun i will be open to theft

So im 50/50 about using it or not.


Wow. That is damning.

... I can't believe he went through all that trouble as red in his first game... he had to have had previous mafia experience.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
March 31 2011 05:49 GMT
#3532
Ugh. I apologize about my inactivity. What the hell just happened? Am I playing the same game? Did the mods troll us and bring up an old thread?

Arena? Assassin?

I can't make sense of this game.

Did the "king" game mechanic come from that assassin mafia game? If that is so, then the assassin just lost his win condition since he only had one shot, and he blew it. -_-

I told you that tackster's posts were very pro-town. It was coagulation (is it a bot now?) and Jackal's insistence that led me to vote for him. I was too late to see the vote changes at the last minute.

Do we have a lynch? Can we get lemonwalrus during daylight?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 02 2011 01:39 GMT
#3663
Apologize about the inactivity. Last I checked the thread, we were in the middle of a gigantic rules change, but still LemonWalrus was a clear target from last day cycle.


I don't know if I'll be able to read the past 34 pages in the next 20 minutes to vote in time, but from the vote patterns, I see there aren't any compelling reasons the town isn't feeling like it made a mistake. Thus, I am voting for his lynch.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 02 2011 06:41 GMT
#3712
-_- After my last experience, when a 100% benign (albeit aggressive) effort to win the town backfired and nearly permabanned me from all mafia, I considered even quitting the mafia scene altogether. I'm not going to let myself get so emotionally invested in a forum game any longer. I will pay attention, but I'm not going to wade through all the spam. I'll only point out when there's something really obvious and dumb going on, like that lynch on Tackster, after he made so many good posts.


I still feel that we have a great chance, now that we have all the items from the item game. I'm considering my options - remember, this is insane mafia, and I don't want to get second guessed by another rule change or some hidden sub-game that is gonna be revealed to me later.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 03 2011 02:43 GMT
#3849
Wait. So there's a black market that we didn't know about? What the fuck?


This is insane. So, conceivably, it was possible to buy 20 votes? i.e. completely control a lynch? The hell? Why did you not use it to save Tackster?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 03 2011 02:46 GMT
#3856
Whatever. We got the godfather, and now we just have to worry about their "3" RPGs. What are the benefits of winning the item game? Anybody know? Since bum knew, there had to be some blues that were in there other than bum. Do you know who are the blacks, have any analysis to help us?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 04 2011 01:48 GMT
#4139
You know. I know this is insane mafia, but the black market was... the very definition of imbalance. -_-

There was no way for us to avoid revealing our names within the first few days of the game.

Anyway.

I really dislike playing with players who just do random shit. There was -no- evidence Meapak was a red. Sure, you got lucky this game, but 9 out of 10 games you're just going to screw up your own side.

It really makes me pissed off how shit happens on a dice roll.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 04 2011 01:52 GMT
#4143
Really.

All that internal confusion about how the bus driver works, how the black market and money works, etc etc aside, we may still have had a chance if not for that COMPLETELY RANDOM shot out of the blue.

Haha. I even recall coag saying "oh I didn't shoot the night before because I was worried red would control me" - if we controlled you, you'd have shot your gun regardless of what you wanted. -_-

QQ. QQ. QQ.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 04 2011 01:53 GMT
#4144
On April 04 2011 10:52 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 10:48 orgolove wrote:
You know. I know this is insane mafia, but the black market was... the very definition of imbalance. -_-

There was no way for us to avoid revealing our names within the first few days of the game.

Anyway.

I really dislike playing with players who just do random shit. There was -no- evidence Meapak was a red. Sure, you got lucky this game, but 9 out of 10 games you're just going to screw up your own side.

It really makes me pissed off how shit happens on a dice roll.

Coags shot wasn't as random as it appears. He told me night 1 of the IG game Mea was scum.


Oh really.

And how did he know? I see absolutely -nothing- that he did that sounded scummy.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 04 2011 02:07 GMT
#4150
Point is, he didn't know the mechanics of mind control and wasted shots throughout the game. And yet his ONE lucky shot hit the GF, even after he spent so much time making sure he seemed as pro-town and helpful as possible.

Sigh.

GG town.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 04 2011 02:52 GMT
#4186
On April 04 2011 11:20 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2011 11:07 orgolove wrote:
Point is, he didn't know the mechanics of mind control and wasted shots throughout the game. And yet his ONE lucky shot hit the GF, even after he spent so much time making sure he seemed as pro-town and helpful as possible.

Sigh.

GG town.

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To: Lemonwalrus [ Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: sup
Date: 3/24/11 14:49
Bum looks legit so far.
only problem is hes a less than stellar scumhunter and a pretty big waste of the mayor spot.

generally mafia dont really have a whole lot of incentive to run hard for mayor. a mafia mayor is elected maybe like 1 out of 50 games in my experience. they tend to lay low instead of putting themselves out there like that.

at this point i have a 75% scum read on Meapak_Ziphh.
me and him sent PM back and forth for about an hour right before the game.
as soon as the roles go out he posted 1 time and then layed low.
usually scum are inactive in thread during the very start of the game because they are talking to their mafia buddys on irc or a private forum and getting organized. he basically went from super active before role pms had been sent out to non active/lurking after pm's had been sent.
also normally hes a very active poster.. if you look at how much he posted when game started and compare that to other games hes been in when hes town he posts alot more.
keep your eye on him.

dont trust anyone
and no im not scum. but thats ok if you dont believe me at this point. its good to be cautious.

Original Message From Lemonwalrus:
Idk, this whole thing with bum has almost all of my attention atm. Basically I am assuming he is telling the truth with his role claim since it seems way too risky for a mafia or third party to false role claim this early since the real cops could just oust him and then either A. he is dead or B. the rest of his guys have to come out and support him and they risk ousting their whole organization right then and there. (although I guess if he gets mayor out of it it would be a good payoff.)

So I think he is safe, but the way that people are reacting to it is what interests me. Idk, I'm a bit too new to be drawing huge conclusions at this point, but I definitely want to see how this turns out. Idk, I'm gonna wait until more is known to even start trying to finger people as town/not town because I'm afraid if I start too early I'm just going to pick someone based on bad data and then stubbornly stick with that choice for too long.

How about you, you got any hunches atm?

(also don't think I didn't catch you calling me scum earlier...that is a nice (insert name of an object you cherish) you have there...it would be a shame if something...happened to it.)

Also could you, idk i guess pay special attention to what I do/say and then help me analyze my play after this is all said and done. I really want to learn from this first game so I can be good at this. (also if you are mafia/third party and currently squeezing your newbie friend for info I'm just gonna put it out there that that is lame )


This is about as unfucking random as it gets man.
dont hate cause i can catch scum and you cant


Yeah, I love how you "caught" Tackster and messaged all that to Lemon, another scum. GJ.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 06 2011 02:18 GMT
#4758
On April 06 2011 11:14 LSB wrote:
Coagulation survived the RPG blast long enough only to see that he had been blown into the air and was flying towards a woodshed where a 6 foot long metal rake proceeded to impale him up the ass.


A fitting end.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 06 2011 02:24 GMT
#4769
You guys realize by bombing the remaining scum, black wins the game? lol.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 06 2011 03:02 GMT
#4796
Oh yeah, another thing we'll have to discuss after the end of the game - what was the point of allowing posting entire role PMs and breadcrumbing/insinuating mod PMs? *SIGH*
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 07 2011 04:08 GMT
#4922
You know, I may not have posted too much in the thread, but I really did try to get something going behind the scenes.

Too bad it didn't work out.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
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