But I'd like to opt out of the item game if possible... not sure I have the time to worry about that as well!
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But I'd like to opt out of the item game if possible... not sure I have the time to worry about that as well! | ||
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I will then put all names on a wall and throw a dart to determine the lynch. | ||
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On March 24 2011 08:02 bumatlarge wrote: I may be crazy, BUT IT JUST MIGHT BE A LOOONATIC UR LUKING FOR The lunatic is in my head, The lunatic is in my head, You raise the blade, you make the change, You re-arrange me 'till I'm sane | ||
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On March 24 2011 12:53 bumatlarge wrote: Well, I think I already slipped up and it is fairly obvious if you lookat my posts that I am part of the police force. I've mulled it over and the only thing we really have to lose is outing one member (me) to everyone. So let me go over why it's clear you should vote for me. 1) I am the most confirmed you can get. If there is no counter-claim, I will be assuredly more town then anyone else. 2) I have a circle of 3 other townies. I've ruled out that we have a member with a different win-condition, since mafia has decent numbers already, and 3rd party is BP. Additionally, the numbers add up with how many are in each faction. 3) We have access to more then a circle. I won't disclose anymore until it's clear I am going to win. Personally, I have a lot of time to devote, and I have 4 times the man power of any other candidate. I believe that being elected as confirmed town mayor will not be the hard part, but rooting scum out and realizing their counters to me being mayor will demand effort. So I advise green townies in the race drop out and vote me, because I doubt you have more to offer. If you are mafia or third party, please stay in the race or counter claim to make my job easy. Yeah, the slip was kind of apparent, unless scum is really bad :/. Your plan makes a lot of sense, especially if you have a circle. The only thing is that no one knows their powers yet... I hope you and your body guards don't get good ones :/ I don't think Jackal is confirmed anything right now. I'll vote for you unless a better campaign comes along. | ||
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On March 24 2011 13:06 annul wrote: i already claimed green. i am saying you are not a blue, not that i am a blue. you have been given ALIGNMENT pms, not role pms. Annul, thats stupid reasoning. Alignment pms always have details about the alignment's group powers (if applicable). Do you have any evidence to the contrary? bumatlarge: And annul, if I am not blue, then a real blue can come out and counter claim me. If there is a reason why he would not, then enlighten me. My alignment PM gave me more then my alignment. That is all I will say until I am mayor. A blue counter-claiming would be nice. a confirmed scum lynch d1 would be nice ^^ | ||
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Kavdragon: Mayor: Bum, this is directed at you. Your campaign revolves around making sure that the mayor does not fall into the wrong hands. This is evidenced by the fact that you are selling your self as blue, and having a circle of confirmed persons. You are NOT selling your scum hunting abilities. You are taking a very passive approach by using the mayoral protection for a blue. The problem is, we need active scum hunters. The game is won with analysis and scum hunting, NOT blues. As per the advice of the vet's in the previous game, Mafia will likely be shooting for the active leaders of the town, not blues. Thus the protection would be better given to them. I'm not saying that I doubt your townie-ness, but I am saying that the mayor needs to be a leader, and a good analyst. If you can step up to the plate and deliver those things I'll throw my vote in behind you, but so far you've not shown great analysis. The fact that you didn't see this problem with your plan, and revealed yourself that way is evidence that you are not analyzing things very well. Because of this, I'm keeping my name in the pool. There also the fact that the mayor can choose the lynch, and can rely on active scumhunters' advice. The leader in this case only has to make the final decision, and I'd rather that be a confirmed town who will listen to scumhunters than an unknown or even probable town. Of course, this relies on no counterclaims in the next, oh, 12 hours or so i guess. | ||
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On March 24 2011 14:16 GMarshal wrote: 60+ we have all of Night 0 and most of day 1 for someone to conterclaim. Although to be honest I'm not likely to belive it if its too late after day 1 starts. Oh yeah, I know its theoretically a long time, but if no counter claims happen soon I wouldn't really trust them. Give scum enough time and they'll figure out a good plan | ||
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On March 24 2011 14:22 Lanaia wrote: This isn't night then? I'm a little confused. This is night. Day1 starts when the 24hr n0 starts iirc | ||
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Bum slipped hard early on, so he claimed blue. This opened up an opportunity for him to act as a mouth for the blues and lets us get a confirmed townie as mayor (assuming no counterclaim, if there is a counter claim I will re-assess the situation). And a confirmed townie as Mayor lets us get Lynch 1 under our control. However, kavdragon makes a convincing argument, and I know that when I'm scum I usually try to snipe the best hunters first, so protecting them is a must. Hopefully, when roles are revealed, there will be some Medics/Doctors who can protect our best analysts. But they could also be used to protect bum. Brownbear's analysis of bum's situation was good, but I think a little flawed. Its worth trading N blues for N scum, and so if Bum really is blue, the best thing that could happen is that scum counter claims. However, if there is a CC, the other blues shouldn't back up bum. 2 for 1 Blue to Scum isn't a good trade imo, and we'll have to lynch 1 blue at least. Scum doesn't have to keep claiming up to 4-4. Currently, my vote is split between bum and kav, although I think if bum shows decent analysis d1 he'd steal my vote. | ||
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On March 25 2011 02:26 ilovejonn wrote: I just want one place I have to look at to go through with everything. Besides, people type like this in irc, then I have to read a very long log. This is an excellent point. I'm going to go vote no on the poll now | ||
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Chaoser is right? | ||
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But a blue mouth with longevity would be really useful to have. So even if there is a CC, I propose we lynch the CCer first, and then bum if the CC flips blue. I mean its been long enough that any CC has to be doubtful, right? | ||
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Your campaign is kinda crappy as well... "I have had 2 plans, both of which would totally have worked except I died" is kinda bad imo | ||
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bum I'll be taking note of all those who chime in on what it is going to be. Seems like thats exactly what hes doing, tackster | ||
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On March 25 2011 06:49 orgolove wrote: There's still nothing that proves that bum is actually a blue as he claims to be. He could just as easily have a roleswitching/godfather role that is practically impossible to prove in a game such as this that has no reveal on death. I don't understand why you guys are blindly trusting his claim. We've been burned by the reds before... And I love how bum immediately puts me under his suspicion list because I'm not blindly sheeping like the rest of the town. Anyway. If push comes to shove, I'd rather support Kavdragon than you. He doesn't know his role yet, right? | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote: OMG, so much posting going on I can't keep up. Can someone summarize a little. Basically, Bum claimed blue. Since Blues are a mason circle as well as have roles and apparently (according to bum and semi-confirmed by LSB ["No comment"]) something else. Unless theres a counter-claim, which by now there should have been unless all blues are AFK, odds are he's telling the truth. On this basis, Bum is running for Mayor. This will help him survive, and will give town a mouth to the blue mason circle. annul is vehemently opposed to this idea and believes someone from the item game should be made mayor. Everyone else thinks he is crazy for the most part (a few people support a non-bum mayor). Kavdragon is a good mayor alternate, as is Chaoser (who backed out conditional to no counterclaim) | ||
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On March 25 2011 10:15 annul wrote: remember this? how does he know he has access to more than just a circle, if only alignment PMs went out? that is what started my attack on him to begin with. notice how he only came out AFTER trying to push this meme regarding counterclaims? annul, why would he claim anything more than a circle if he didn't have more than a circle? | ||
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If not Spam ftw | ||
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I should have time, but in case weird things happen, ##Elect Bum | ||
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Kavdragon, excellent points. I completely agree with you (except that I'm scummy - I look forward to reading your reasons). @Bumatlarge/Tackster, I think we should lynch annul. A) Lynch an item-gamer. B) Lynch an anti-town. Annul has been nothing but a distraction, and even if he is town (which I doubt), he's better off dead imo. | ||
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And Tackster, the best way to alert blues to any plan is to simply PM bumatlarge i think | ||
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On March 26 2011 15:03 GMarshal wrote: PMs are not allowed unless you have some power that allows it... Oh yeah. Maybe I should wait until after the celebratory hangover to read through :S. Wait, so item game players are allowed to pm? | ||
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Yeah its true, I haven't been able to post anything major yet. I've been busy with the move. I'll try to get a major analysis done tomorrow. | ||
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On March 26 2011 15:23 Lanaia wrote: Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell. I don't think a celebratory hangover would cause him to completely forget PMs during gametime with people you aren't part of a group with aren't allowed. Oh, Uprising, why dost thou torment me so? You have no idea what I'm like when I'm drunk, as I've never played IRC mafia drunk. My drunk meta maybe very different from my sober meta :ppppp On the other hand maybe I am scum O.O Now I am not actually suggesting that I am scum, because I am not. I would like to put forth an idea to force lurkers to post. We can simply put them at L-2, with 2 people waiting to hammer. If they don't start posting a hell of a lot, lynch them. If they do, FOS but move on to the next target. If anyone quick-hammers, immediately policy lynch them the following day. This might be too much coordination for the town to handle, but I feel like it could work. | ||
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[QUOTE]On March 26 2011 15:35 iGrok wrote: [QUOTE]On March 26 2011 15:23 Lanaia wrote: Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell. [QUOTE]On March 26 2011 15:02 iGrok wrote: We can simply put them at L-2, with 2 people waiting to hammer. If they don't start posting a hell of a lot, lynch them. If they do, FOS but move on to the next target. If anyone quick-hammers, immediately policy lynch them the following day. This might be too much coordination for the town to handle, but I feel like it could work. [/QUOTE] Its not majority vote but deadline vote, so the person with the highest number of votes at the deadline dies, hence there is no hammering, also if that were the case it would give scum an awesome way to "accidentaly" kill townies. However the theory is sound, the way to make lurkers post is to threaten to hang them and hang them if they dont post. I refuse to take lurkers with me to lylo so I will be making an effort to get them hanged. [/QUOTE] Fuck damn it. Thats it, I'm going to sleep before I fuck up any more rules in my head. I'll be back tomorrow. And GMarshall, I'd certainly be willing to work with you to eliminate lurkers. Let us discuss this more tomorrow | ||
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1. Bumatlarge: 100% confirmed Blue imho. 2. iGrok: I'm town, can't convince you yet, but it is possible to confirm me. My role lends itself to easy confirmation, and thats all I can really say for the moment. 3. chaoser - great analysis, excellent scum reads. A huge asset to Town. 4. annul - jesus why were you so angry d1. Now you've pissed everyone off. I do think you're town though. 5. Kavdragon - Great analysis at times. Personally, I think hes been posting well and not spamming, unlike most people. 6. Meapak_Ziphh - Good analysis, but lurking hardcore. If he's scum, he's playing extremely well. 7. Coagulation - 90% of your posts are in capslock. The only reason I think you are town is that annul is town. 8. GMarshal - You seem pretty townish. Decent analysis at least. 9. CubEdIn - He seems like he's always on the right side of every accusation. Not sure how this works. 10. Eiii - A couple really good posts, not much more than that. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now. 11. Jackal58 - you and annul... god damn you two. But I have a feeling you're town. 12. GGQ - I don't have a strong read on you, but if I had to pick I'd say town or benign (for now) scum. 13. Tackster - Everything he's said is perfectly explainable either as scum or as town. Expect me to keep an eye on you, Tackster. 14. Rean - Hasn't said much, and what he has has mostly mirrored others. He's a bit of an enigma. I would like to see more from him. (15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20). MrWiggles, Brown Bear, kevconsim, Lemonwalrus, ilovejohn, Amber[LighT] - I can't get a good read on anyone here 21. Lanaia - She's new here, but I know her IRC meta. I feel like she's being coached for forum mafia, which is only possible if she's blue or scum. But if she were blue I think she'd have taken a more active role, so scum. 22. deconduo - Had decent analysis at first glance, but a lot of it seemed a bit contrived. I felt like most of the things he brought up could've gone either way. 23. Insanious - Kav's post on Insanious pretty much mirrored my thoughts exactly. 24. tnkted - his posts seem like they know more than a mere townie should, and he is quick to tunnel certain players and quick to defend others. Either his ability is a day-multi-alignment check or he's scum. 25. RoL - he's done jack shit to prove town, and hit annul after annul was confirmed town. 90% scum, 10% crazy vig. Obvscum (26,27,28,29): Beneather, OriginalName, Kenpachi, orgolove - All turbo lurking. Lolkilled - darmousseh. For the record I strongly supported this lynch. 30. Eiii - I think I remember one post, and he put alot of thought into it? I DONT REMEMBER EXACTLY. YOU ANALYZE IT. | ||
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Read the post below that one | ||
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On March 28 2011 15:56 kevconsim wrote: Player List of People I Have Reads On 27. iGrok- I dont know where i stand here.(UNsure) What. | ||
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On March 28 2011 17:34 Coagulation wrote: This is insane mafia Lsb even mentioned taking suggestions for roles. nothing is in stone. the fact that Mafia would go through all the trouble of putting GF in the item game ( a complete newbie of all people) yet fail to give him a logical cover role. doesnt make sense man. Don't forget that the Black CEO was in the IG | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:35 GMarshal wrote: I counter with zerglings, they are in your main eating your probes! Do you counter or pull back your deathball? | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:54 chaoser wrote: keep useless spam out of thread please, it's already huge and doesn't need any more spam It served a purpose. Whether to activate a plan or to breadcrumb, you won't know for now | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:56 Jackal58 wrote: If you're laying breadcrumbs with a dead player I'd say you deserve to be mod killed right fucking now. I can use him as an excuse. He's posting in the thread. If he weren't allowed to post in thread he'd be added to the ban list, right? | ||
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so the bodyguard was hit specifically, andbum was not targeted. This opens up new ideas. | ||
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On March 29 2011 04:45 Coagulation wrote: I didnt lie. i have never been more fucking annoyed with a game than i am right now. i really dont fucking care wtf happens anymore u fucking twats wanna make shit up and not believe me well go right ahead. keep up the good work fucktard. Obviously someone didn't read that coag was probably mind controlled | ||
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On March 29 2011 12:18 chaoser wrote: Jeez, why so defensive? Could have just been like, yeah, sorry, I didn't think it was needed. But instead we get some snark. Yeah, sorry. I'm a little stressed. | ||
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Coag, I know you're going through a tough time, but I trust you man. | ||
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VOTE FOR LEMON TWENTY-ELEVEN! | ||
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On March 31 2011 02:14 Lanaia wrote: Now I have to update my list. Thanks for all of the talking/behaviour. :D 1. RebirthOfLeGenD 2. Jackal58** - [See Lemonwalrus] 3. (OriginalName) - [I can't tell with him anymore.] 4. (Kenpachi) 5. deconduo 6. Kavdragon 8. bumatlarge 10. Coagulation** - [See Lemonwalrus] 11. orgolove - Pretty much admitted to not even reading 50 pages. Town wouldn't do that. (likely) [Edit: I mean, reading them before he posts to say he's reading them.] 12. chaoser 13.( Meapak_Ziphh) - [Analyses are contribution more to town and generally acting more proactive and more protown. Also, happy birthday meapak!] 15. (kevconsim) 16. Mr. Wiggles 17. (CubEdIn) - [This one should be obvious.] 18. GGQ 19. (ilovejonn) 20. Amber[LighT] - Amber's getting everyone mixed up and I can't make sense of a lot of their posts. 21. BrownBear - Generally just doesn't seem town. 22. (Lemonwalrus)** - [I'm fairly certain neither Jackal nor Coag is scum, so PoE here.] 23. Rean 24. tnkted 26. Lanaia - I know my own alignment. 27. iGrok - iGrok, as scum, I've noticed, you tend to lurk as you are now. I don't feel many things that you've said are a huge asset to town. Speak more. 28. (Beneather) - [Meapak's analysis is actually what I've been thinking about about him for a while now.] 29. (Insanious) 30. (Eiii) Bold or red (both is i'm not sure of which) = scum, green = townie/blue, italics = unsure. Bracketed people are the ones I've had to edit. If you want opinions that I haven't put up there, please say so. Lanaia, pretty much ALL you've done is make lists. Plus, you know my town meta is kind of scummy. However, I don't think you are scum anymore, I have my sights set elsewhere | ||
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Good luck town... blues. Death to Vermin! AVVENNNNNGGGEEE MEEEEE | ||
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I'll mix drinks for everyone. Or at least everyone I can physically reach. So just me -___- | ||
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