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On March 24 2011 07:39 Insanious wrote: This pre-game game scares me wuss. Fortune favours the bold. Let's go | ||
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We throwing out cool quotes now? ![[image loading]](http://somemangas.com/images2/7424932.jpg) | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:31 annul wrote: hi, elect me for mayor i am a townie with no abilities apparently (???), so give me something to do pl0x. Green Town- These are the normal townies. Well, not so normal. Every single townie has a power. So there like super townies, but very squishy. | ||
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1. I'm a noobie. This means that i am absolutely not a threat to anyone, and am therefore a prime target for early mafia kills. I could use the human shields! Actually noobies usually don't get NKed till late game cause mafia obviously wants to kill all the vets. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:40 tnkted wrote: Well, forgive my inexperience, but doesn't the very fact that the vets are such juicy targets make killing them seem very suspicious? If you have a vet thats doing some dangerous theorizing, wouldn't killing him be exactly the wrong thing to do as mafia? it would validate his theory. Instead, the smart move for that mafia would be to kill a noob or some other target. Well generally day 1/2 the vets haven't really collected enough data and maybe they'll push someone who's town. Just cause they're vet doesn't mean they're 100% right. It's easy to get out from a vet's analysis if it's early, but it's much harder if it's later on since more things will have happened for them to make a more robust argument. I dunno, I usually never see newbies get killed early on, it's either mid tier players, high tier players, or blue snipes. @Jackal You like to tunnel...A LOT. Because of that you almost lost town the game in a recent mafia cause you pushed for pandain's lynch so hard that if there wasn't a vigi, mafia would have 100% won. I don't know if I trust you as mayor deciding our first lynch as well as a figurehead of sorts for town. While town voting day 1 is a crap shoot, leaving it in your hands might not necessarily be any better. This is because I noticed you didn't say you would say who you were going to lynch first to town before lynching. At least if it comes down to a town vote everyone can see where the lynch is going. If you just lynch without telling anyone, that'd be very bad. Will you be telegraphing your lynch target first or will you just be shooting the guy? I don't really care for cowboy mayors. | ||
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1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining. There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining. There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8) | ||
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That being said, I still don't think it's a very good idea to vote for people involved in the item game, that's such a small group to have to worry about giving mayor to the 1 mafia there. | ||
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1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining. There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining. There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. If we lynch both mafia and black we pretty much have a cleared list of four townies. Also by lynching red or black we can help town have better chances at winning the game and giving us all the items. | ||
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On March 24 2011 12:10 Coagulation wrote: you can ask around i am pretty damn good at getting 100% town reads day 1 and banking big money on it and coming out on top. I doubt 100%...Everyone gets something wrong some of the time. I don't want to "bank" on your judgement because if it turns out wrong we're in a hole. | ||
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1) I have some sort of vision while others don't really: On March 24 2011 12:05 chaoser wrote: Also, as an aside from the mayor issue, I think our day 1 focus should be on the Item Game. If we lynch both mafia and black we pretty much have a cleared list of four townies. Also by lynching red or black we can help town have better chances at winning the game and giving us all the items. Bum's plan also intrigues me and if a blue claims and runs I will immediately step down from running. This will be, of course, after I consider it some more to see if there are any glaring flaws in it. I'm willing to compromise in terms of the voting/not voting for day 1 lynch. I'll go along with the town but also make my own analysis as well. If I believe town to be voting to lynch someone who is 80% not mafia in my eyes I will tell town and take a stand if I have to. Aside from that, I will be a mere civil servant, at the mercy of the people. I don't have flashy pictures or heart swelling music, but I do believe beer should be cold, boots should be dusty. I think 9/11 was bad and freedom? Well, I think that's just a little bit better. | ||
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On March 24 2011 12:35 Coagulation wrote: its almost always a bad idea to publicly role claim early game Unless mafia doesn't realize there is no townie role and finds themselves all blown up by the next day. | ||
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Chaoser seems like a solid candidate. He has felt town to me all game, with solid contributions, but his plan for his lynch seems like it is precicely what a mafia would say; they're willing to go with the town (ie, let the other mafia members make a big fuss about who to kill), while also maintaining his ability to kill anyone he wants (if the mafia members can't convince people). If we elect chaoser, i'll be watching very closely to see who pushes for who to be lynched. Yeah I realized compromising isn't a good idea at all which is why I wrote: On March 24 2011 12:53 chaoser wrote: Another reason against not voting day 1 is that it doesn't leave a definite paper trail for town to analysis. With votes we can see where people fell but if it just comes down to you picking to lynch someone then the trail is a bit more iffy. I will follow town's vote. | ||
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On March 24 2011 13:02 tnkted wrote: so.... we have precisely the same platform then? lol. I guess, but Kav also is onboard with the letting town vote thing too so it's pretty much voting v. no voting. At this point I want to see how this bum/blue situation plays out. I'm going to think long and hard about if it has a big flaw in it or not. | ||
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On March 24 2011 22:58 Jackal58 wrote: We hope if he's black there will be a cc. 4 blues and a bunch of noobs in the game. I'm not holding my breath. Anyways here is a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a red or a black: 1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus I'm green. I suspect Coag is as well. So going on that we have a 50/50 shot at a red and a black between darm, annul, Tackster and LW. Tackster and Lemon I don't know. So I don't know what to expect out of their play. I haven't seen darm post yet. Is annul red again? Wouldn't put it past LSB to do so. Or maybe he changed it up and made him black. I would recommend confining our day 1 lynch to somebody on this list. Thanks for basically copying and restating my idea...this + being against bum's run makes me FoS you. | ||
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On March 24 2011 23:47 Jackal58 wrote: If you said it I missed it. The only one I saw was Meapak's. Then I wouldn't want you as a mayor at all. It's been posted/quoted a good 4-5 times. For mayor to miss something like that doesn't bode well for the future. | ||
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On March 25 2011 02:00 ilovejonn wrote: No, just post in this thread. Sorry, it was to that Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad? | ||
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On March 25 2011 02:26 ilovejonn wrote: I just want one place I have to look at to go through with everything. Besides, people type like this in irc, then I have to read a very long log. We can just tell people not to type like this if they do...Just cause it's hard to read through doesn't mean it's not useful. It's an added feature, just cause you won't use it cause you don't want to deal with massive logs doesn't mean others won't. | ||
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Ok so Chaoser withdrew but that's fine because the Bum campaign has cleared up a lot of the concerns I had namely how it's impossible to win the claim trade. Bum is probably our best bet for all the reasons people have already stated so I wont parrot them off. I'm actually still in it, at least until bum's situation is cleared via time and no one cc'ing. | ||
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On March 25 2011 03:03 GMarshal wrote: Well, allow me to say that I don't think IRC is a good idea its far too easy to impersonate someone else, with posts we can be 100% sure that the person saying something is the actual person whose name appears on the post. Also bum has my full support barring a counterclaim, I urge all other candidates to withdraw. Also I think we have a few people who aren't posting, I bet these are the people who are oh so busy chatting with their scum buddies about how to deal with the current situation, I propose a lurker be the person our mayor lynches (assuming we don't find a jucier target)! Hmm, that's very true about impersonating someone... And in line with the lurker lynch idea 1. Coagulation Posting 2. darmousseh Banned 3. Jackal58 Posting 4. annul Posting 5. Tackster NOT POSTING 6. Lemonwalrus NOT POSTING People in the item game have a vested reason to post in thread cause it helps them gain info as well as allows themselves to come under scrutiny from town itself. Those that aren't contributing are playing decidedly anti town since we can't read you, nor can your fellow item players read you. It's close to 24 hours already and Tackster and Lemonwalrus have not posted that much as all. Please contribute more~ | ||
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I believe he said they were roommates before the game started | ||
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The man just got killed by letting his role slip in a PM circle in XXXVII. Night 1 boom he's gone. And he does it again a week later??? Sorry. I'm not buying what he's selling. I might be wrong but on night 0 I'm going to lean towards the side that my gut reaction had. That reaction was bullshit. If that makes me scummy in your eyes I'm sure you'll get over it. I don't know if you have a bad memory or something but bum wasn't even in the game (XXXVII) till late. He replaced ICanFlyLow like on Day 2 or Day 3. He also flipped green. I don't think anyone on my team was in a PM circle with him in that game so he didn't let his role PM slip. Go check on that game if you want but he's clearly marked dead Night 3. | ||
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On March 25 2011 04:52 orgolove wrote: Sorry. I've been busy with trip preparations - I have to drive ~1000 miles back and forth this weekend, and need to do a checkup on my car etc etc. Anyway - How can we trust bum when he roleclaimed so early in the game? He's a great player - I don't think any decent actual blue would take the risk of revealing his role so early. He might actually be a black, trying to draw hits and confusing us with fake checks. I'm thinking of what happened with annul in.. I think it was salem mafia or something - where he did an early roleclaim as a godfather, and everyone believed him after a cop confirm. That was absolutely disastrous for us. There really is no logic for us to believe bum. There is logic because the difference is while in salam (the game you reference) annul claimed early and then cop confirmed him, that was 1 person confirming him. Here all the blues are in a PM circle so they can immediately say no, he's not one of us and that leads to a 1:1. Black isn't going to help red and red isn't going to help black and I doubt either one of the groups wants to get into a 1:1 situation this early in the game. annul, you're thinking of it as 10 v 20 when really it's 6 v 4 v 20. Either side is going to be thinking of it's own interests and so red and black really have no desire to overstep their roles and try to take one for the team and fake claim and let it benefit the other team (red/black). | ||
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Chaoser mentioned he would sheep town on the mayoral vote - I personally cannot support a mayor that would leave anything up to chance, even an election. Woah woah, I didn't say I'd sheep town. I said I'd allow for a town vote which most people said instead of being a cowboy and just picking my own. The reason is to be as transparent as possible. | ||
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I will vote bum. If someone cc's him, I will keep running and not vote him. | ||
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Let's say I'm red and that's the platform I'm running on. Two players are both being argued about. One is mafia, one is town. If I lynch the town, what does that say about anyone's arguments for or against the two? Nothing, red could just argue that we should lynch mafia strongly cause they know at the end of the day I wouldn't lynch him. Having a vote ties your argument to an actual piece of information. I can argue all day long for someone but if I don't vote for him, that's pretty scummy. | ||
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1. my policy is "any item game player is better than current slate of candidates." given that, of course i am going to try to get the mayorship. my policy for determining lynch? kill who i think is black. @annul Why only say kill who you think is black and not who you think is red or black | ||
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1.) no group can afford to take out everyone in the item game but their player as he instantly is revealed (e.g. if the mafia teams takes out all the greens and hangs the 3rd party well, who the mafia is becomes evident) Basically this, mafia can't afford to take out too many townies in the item game cause then black or town will figure out who the red is and kill/lynch them, making the chances of the scum team getting the items 0%. Same thing for black players except they only have to fear lynches. Because of that, item players are relatively safe. Lets say black and red use all 3 KP to kill items players, that leaves 1 town, 1 black, and 1 red. 2 in 3 chance to lynch an anti-town and then 1/2 chance to protect the right person from night kill? Seems pretty good. But if bum isn't protected we've effectively lose a blue. | ||
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Basically this, mafia can't afford to take out too many townies in the item game cause then black or town will figure out who the red is and kill/lynch them, making the chances of the scum team getting the items 0%. Same thing for black players except they only have to fear lynches. Because of that, item players are relatively safe. Lets say black and red use all 3 KP to kill items players, that leaves 1 town, 1 black, and 1 red. 2 in 3 chance to lynch an anti-town and then 1/2 chance to protect the right person from night kill? Seems pretty good. But if bum isn't protected we've effectively lose a blue. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote: OMG, so much posting going on I can't keep up. Can someone summarize a little. annul: don't vote bum! vote item player~ almost everyone else: the fuck... | ||
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1) people clearly don't think your point is correct 2) you keep pushing the point leading to massive amounts of spam that is basically everyone talking around in circles Can you see why that's bad? It basically allows mafia to blend into the conversation because it is an EASY conversation topic. Whether you are mafia or not, this argument is clearly spirally out of control. We can take it up again when powers/items are given out but for now can we give it a rest? | ||
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do you just simply refuse to recognize the potential for blues to be worth more than 1 scum death? Yes this is possible. It is also possible that this isn't true. Based on past games, there is more supporting the latter case but we can ignore that. In the end we don't know. You don't know. No one except the blues know. Even then they don't really know till their powers are revealed to them. So until then, there's no point arguing this point. At the same time, giving the mayor to a item player is itself dangerous. There's a 1/6 chance a red gets it, 1/6 chance a black gets it and a 4/6 chance greens get it. There is nothing to cancel out the black so lets say it's 1/3 for anti-town to get it and 2/3 chance for town to get it. In that same vein, if done with the whole game in context, there is a 8/15 chance for town to get it, 2/15 chance blues get it, 3/15 chance mafia get it and 2/15 chance black gets it. Basically there's the same chance black or blue gets it and town is more than 2 times as likely to get it as red. Assuming black and blue cancel out, it'll be 8/15 v 2/15. There is a higher chance for greens to get it than red when viewing the whole game compared to the item game. | ||
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On March 25 2011 10:16 Tackster wrote: In my eyes if I were to work so hard to invest in a plan that's bad for town I would either be mafia or... trying to come up with a non-insulting term here... simple? So the way this turned out I can't imagine mafia pretending to be THAT simple so successfully... I mean that really takes acting lessons... annul does it. Look at XXXVII. Even his own team were like...wtf are you doing... | ||
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On March 25 2011 11:10 annul wrote: okay every claim i had about item game? i retract it this item is horrible. winning 5 other items this bad wont do us shit. LOLOL | ||
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On March 25 2011 11:19 deconduo wrote: ##Elect: Bumatlarge http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=204751 think we vote there | ||
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chaoser if you had a DT check who would you check right now? Probably darmousseh or Lemonwalrus. Both in the item game, both kinda on the quiet side. | ||
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All kidding aside, what annul did was so horribly anti town that even after I asked him to stop arguing about the topic to focus on other things till at least everyone got their powers, 3-4 more pages sprang up and my post was totally ignored by him. I don't know if that's just how he plays but in XXXVII he did the same thing day 1, not letting go of an issue until it led to his death. When you're arguing and all of town doesn't agree with you and it's getting nowhere except to waste time and to spam up the thread while everyone is going in circles, maybe it's time to stop. Even if your idea is the greatest in the world, if no one is convinced, it is the shittest idea in the world. My two cents on that issue. I, like Ace, am all for policy lynches. A townie that doesn't play pro town is even worse than a mafia cause we shouldn't have to worry about you, but because of your play, we do. I'd put my vote (if I had one) against annul. | ||
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On March 25 2011 16:05 annul wrote: i was of the opinion that what TL lacked were strong townies willing to argue their point if they thought they were right. apparently its a policy lynch now? are you fucking kidding? what else would anyone be talking about on night 0 if not the mayoral elections? im sorry if you are too lazy to read 50 pages but thats on you, dont blame me for playing the game. this is why i play this way on early days: go big or go home. but you know what i DID do? i got fuuuucktons of people on the record in a huge, huge way in some cases. even if i didnt win the argument, my long term play won the day. but things change and i adapted. my play is fluid. i find it hilarious how kav, et al pretty much admit i am a town but they still want to get rid of me. warning sign much? we do not have many chances to take out the TEN scum in the game, you know. I disagree with this post. TL lacks strong townies that argue their point and can convince people that their point is right. We already have tons of people who argue their points till the point is beaten and dead. BM (well, I guess not anymore), Jackal (when he tunnels), and youngminii, are just a few of the people who do that. Clearly you can see the difference between what you posted here and what Foolishness posted in XXXVII. There's a difference. A strong and good argument isn't one that you continue to bash over people's heads even thoguh they disagree. A strong and good argument is one that's can inherently be seen as good and agreed upon by at least a decent amount of people. While some (including me) agree with some of your points, the few points that I agree with are drowned out by all the other spam and garbage that you've posted (not to be mean). Yeah you got lots of talking down as can be seen by the page count. But what of that is really analyzable? Most of the people say the same thing over and over and over again, everyone is basically parroting each other's arguments. At the end of the day it came down to a fundamental disagreement that couldn't be resolved and should have been dropped till more information was known. This was similar to the situation with LSB v GMarshal in XXXVII over the PM system. After arguing for a decent amount, both decided that it came down to simply a difference in thought and so dropped the issue in favor of actually trying to catch scum and you got lynched. I don't know what "on the record in huge huge ways" you're talking about and would love to see you quote some statements that would give insight into a person's alignment that also doesn't have a similar post a page later saying the same thing from someone completely different. | ||
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On March 26 2011 00:08 Insanious wrote: @GMarshal, you also have to take into consideration perople from other time zones... Or people like me that only have 2 posts since I'm at work and can't be on TL all the time On March 25 2011 03:05 Insanious wrote: @GMarshal, you also have to take into consideration perople from other time zones... Or people like me that only have 2 posts since I'm at work and can't be on TL all the time ??? You posted the exact same thing twice on two different days??? | ||
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so you are willing to admit you agree with at least some of my arguments, but you are literally going to go ad hominem and try to use my METHODOLOGY for presenting the argument as a way to rationalize ignoring it? are you kidding? you literally just admitted to saying "he had points i liked, but lets kill him anyway." Please don't misrepresent me. I said I agree with some of your POINTS. not your arguments as a whole. 1) I agree that the item game people should be focused on 2) I agree that just because no one cc'ed, doesn't mean bum is 100% confirmed as townie 3) It is important to lynch black over red if we had to choose between the two However your arguments 1) Mayor should be in the item game rather than a semi-confirmed blue (bum) 2) Item game players are in danger of being killed and thus letting red/black win it 3) You should be mayor I disagree with. | ||
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On March 26 2011 03:58 Beneather wrote: It's really hard to catch up in this thread it just blows by so fast! ahhhhh! Can someone please tell me who are the candidates that are running for mayor? I didn't even know you were in this game.... | ||
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The OP was updated with this: Current Mafia KP is 2 Current Third Party KP is 1 Current Police Force KP is 0 Current Town KP is 1 The operative word being current. That means maybe the blues can get KP later? And somehow we have 1 KP? Does that mean the lynch? | ||
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Darm, why don't you speak up? There's going to be a lot of scrutiny of item player's. The only way a weak red/black who isn't confident in their play would act is by lurking. | ||
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On March 26 2011 06:38 Rean wrote: ....your defense is rather peculiar. If you're town, why would you not want to be dt'd? It'd save your ass for a while if you flip town, and electing the godfather into item-game seems foolish to me. Actually we don't even know how the item game is won...can any of the IG people tell us? Is it last man standing? Or stealing all the items? what is it? If your item is stolen can you steal from others? What are the rules for the item game? | ||
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On March 26 2011 07:04 tnkted wrote: Nah, theres no time limit on it, all the pieces have been laid already. I would advise item members to hold off on talking to each other for a few hours, though I doubt it will upset anything. So basically if you die by the end of night this is all useless? | ||
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The Players are 1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus Thought we were focusing on the IG today? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On March 25 2011 06:19 darmousseh wrote: Darmousseh's Mayoral Campaign First off, I am unbanned. The person who banned me was the god of liquidpedia. Thus, I feel a certain connection to liquidpedia that no one else can claim. Specifically, I want revenge. I want to kill those mafia bastards so badly that they give up as quickly as possible. Secondly, I am in the item game, it is very important that a townie win the item game. Also, statistically speaking it's better to choose someone from the item game since there is a higher percentage of townies. Thirdly, I am a man with a plan. In 2 games I have come up with plans. Mini Mafia V I made a plan, I was backstabbed which caused the loss. In Death Factory Mafia I planned to hunt down mafia with my ability, but I got banned by the god of liquidpedia. It is time for the citizens of liquidpedia to rise up against their master and take destiny in their own hands. Obviously, since I got a late start, that it is highly unlikely I will get voted in, but if you want someone new, someone you know will make a plan and stick to it, vote for me. Vote For Revenge, Vote for Town, Vote Darmousseh You ask for people to vote for you and say you are a man with a plan. So what's your plan for this game I wonder? What would you want town to do in regards to the people in the IG? Who in it do you believe is town, mafia, and black? Have you been active in the PM right there? + Show Spoiler + On March 25 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote: OMG, so much posting going on I can't keep up. Can someone summarize a little. On March 25 2011 14:33 darmousseh wrote: I am here, I was busy. You guys are posting an insane amount. Understandable but can you give us a bit of insight into what you are doing in the item game to help town? + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2011 05:55 darmousseh wrote: I'm not super active mostly because of work, but I will respond to pms from people in the item game. I'ts important we identify greens so we can work together. I'm trying to decide who to vote for, but it looks like it doesn't matter since bum is leading. We can't lynch today, no one has really done or said anything interesting. On day 0-1, theres always too much speculation going around. The whole annul thing is probably blown out of proportion and i'm also talking to people in the item game since it's important to make sure that the baddies don't get their hands on those items. The item game people 1. Coagulation - is not as crazy as normal. 2. darmousseh -thats me! 3. Jackal58 - not really anything interesting yet 4. annul - obviously of interest, but probably is town 5. Tackster - no idea 6. Lemonwalrus - nothing interesting Finding the two baddies is very very important and we will need to focus lynch targets probably on that group, but at the same time if the mafia is smart, they will leave people there alive until the last moment in order to drag out the amount of time spent on deciding who to lynch. The 6 of us are obviously high night kill targets too so identifying the baddies is the most important thing right now. My gut says coag is probably not town and that one of the newer players is also not town. Can you please expand on this? Why a gut call on coag? You said you're talking to people, can you clarify? I just my request to you is while the thread itself is long, the interaction of the people in the IG probably isn't that bad. What are you reads based on the interactions you have had? The IG is basically a regular mini mafia game. I assume every townie in it, since they're in a pm circle together, are trying to figure out who the mafia/black are in their ranks. Can the rest of us not in the circle get some insight? While it's important that you don't die, it's more important that red/black in the game get lynched. If they get lynched then obviously chances of winning the game go to 100%. On the flip side If you stay alive it doesn't mean we'll win the items. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02. I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more. Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:45 Beneather wrote: I think we should just lynch all the IG players (: Bound to get some scum players then and we won't have to worry about items making Mafia win.. So killing all the IG players will probrably help us more than it's going to hurt us.. So you want us to use 3 days to lynching half the IG players? while using KP to kill the rest? | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:03 Jackal58 wrote: That should read 4 of 6 Jackal, while I am not ok with "Let's not kill a new player cause he's new", I do want to ask if we can get a little more clarification if possible. Many of Tackster's posts in thread seem relatively pro-town. Says he's voting Bum and supporting him early, talks about how he'd rather the mayor make his own call instead of being swayed by town, takes a stance in whether annul is town or not. His stances were taken and there wasn't a lot of swaying. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:15 Lemonwalrus wrote: Insanious how about we just don't lynch anybody and all hold hands and sing kum-ba-ya? This is mafia, not pre-school. People are going to get lynched, and as part of this IG circle that we are speaking about, I will say that I too think tack is scum. I support jackal's ideas and intend to do my part to see the town win this item game, and right now I feel jackal's plan is our best bet. Woah woah, let's not get so aggressive and flamey please lol | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:22 Insanious wrote: I never said anything like this, we have 30 players... of those we have a couple new ones. Letting them live till tomorrow doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things, but it can help keep them here longer. Doesn't matter to me if they die day 2, or if anyone that this isn't their first game dies today... I want to kill BrownBear, I pushed for him to die, not very kum-ba-ya-ey. Ok so when tackster comes on we can ask him if he'll still play TL even if he's lynched day 1. Till he comes back, lets drop this issue of "let new players live" and deal with the real issue "Why do IG players think Tack is red?" | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:40 tnkted wrote: Lol... That applied to you too annul. FACEPALM Oh well. Jackal, there are a few more. see if you can find one. so are you saying annul passed your test and is "town"? | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:52 Insanious wrote: lol, I saw your post in 2 seconds coag, and knew exactly what you meant, don't worry... I guess the person leaving bread crumbs cannot recognize the same thing in others posts, lol. Well it's not like it'll work anymore -_- | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:01 annul wrote: tnkted, do you see coag's breadcrumb? its there and blatant, but i think it may be only IG players that got it he did already he said | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:00 LSB wrote: Actually, you can. But saying LSB sent you your alignment PM is a safe claim. Saying LSB sent you your role PM is a safe claim. both are safe claims? | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:28 OriginalName wrote: Alright guys first off: Why are we scumhunting using role PMs? Sure a scum could conceivably slip when referencijg such a thing but using the to "confirm" yourself is stupid and honestly who knows if all the PMs were written the same, it just seems irrelevant. My second point is on the word "confirmed": The next person to used aforementioned word to describe another player especially if they are town should be lynched (and i realize ive used it too but when i think about i was being an idiot) nobody and I repeat NOBODY is "confirmed" until they're experiencing a bullet through the head or a short drop and a sudden stop. Do you know what happens when people are "confirmed" and they turn out to be GFs or Framed townies? We get ourselves into worse and worse situations. Just some reads: Tackster - Other than lurking seems standard newb Id really like to here IGs arguement within PMs LemonWalrus - Inactive spammy generally unhelpful. Insanious - Im actually thinking he is some sort of lover role with Tack rather than scum I mean he really hasnt posted anything outside Tack's defense that seems outright suspicous and its Insane Mafia who knows what crazy shit is around. Tnktd - This guy just seems batshit crazy with breadcrumbing PM and 'clearing' Annul really his play is confusing me. lol...this sounds like a mafia scared about tnkt's breadcrumbing plan. While it doesn't mean 100% confirmed just yet, it's possible to make it at least 90% confirmed via lynching and how people come down on votes/what they post in thread. Using it is 100% pro town. Just gotta do it with a small grain of salt. You being so against it makes me FoS you. | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:48 Insanious wrote: Btw, just to side with Bum... I am not a fan of tricking the scum like this. I want to win through scum hunting, and them slipping up, not by LSB/Kita giving people different alignment PMs. I'm not going to ruin your plan, but I still want to come out and say that it just doesn't feel right (not in the, this might be a scum plan, way... but in the I morally object to it way.) but if LSB and Kita says its ok... I agree with this but I also agree with tnkt's use everything possible attitude. If the hosts say we can use it, lets use it. Even if doesn't work the way it's intended to, it's getting a lot of responses (like OriginalName's that are...interesting to say the least) | ||
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So an almost certain green believes me to be town and a 50% scum 'team' say i'm scum... That person was annul btw I think Jackal mentioned | ||
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On March 26 2011 14:25 Tackster wrote: @GMarshal thank you for at least considering the evidence before you made your mind up. I was worried that players here are just sheeping Jackal. I would like to point out something else important: I'm new to forum mafia. So barring the idea that I'm the devil and the ultimate scum surely if i'm behaving scummy people must be able to PROVE it.... If I am that devil btw how am I FOSsed when there can be no proof? Anyway notice how not one shred of evidence has been brought forward except for the pseudo-evidence that people in the mini-game think i'm scum without any evidence themselves... Of which by the way 2 consist of SCUM Hey! I called for more evidence too! | ||
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On March 26 2011 15:23 Lanaia wrote: Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell. I don't think a celebratory hangover would cause him to completely forget PMs during gametime with people you aren't part of a group with aren't allowed. What lol, that statement is confusing. What do you mean? | ||
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On March 26 2011 23:34 orgolove wrote: Sorry guys - still in the middle of a busy weekend here. I just want to point out how there's no one else that's coming up to defend Jackal. I don't know if that's because no one wants to be associated with him when he flips, or if he's really a townie and we're doing it wrong... 1) That is WIFOM and has almost no weight. 2) People did sort of defend him (coag, people in the IG, etc) 3) He's not in a mason circle...he's in the IG... | ||
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To vote for someone please write Votes: Name (LEAVE OUT THE ##) That way, we can see where the town falls on the issue | ||
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On March 27 2011 01:01 Jackal58 wrote: You are a normal townie, sit tight, you'll get your role in 24 hours Townie is in green. Twinkle toes told me to look in role PMs Then said Oh sorry I meant alignment PMs. that's when I quit playing his game. It's bs any ways. Not copied - typed out. Sit tight while I nail your scummy ass to the wall. Seems the only thing you know is sit tight. And only sit tight. Do you know any of the other bread crumbs? | ||
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On March 27 2011 04:46 annul wrote: i would analyze the rest, but i think it is pointless until we see what happens in day and night 1 Isn't the point that we CAN'T wait? If we lynch town in the item game we're behind in it and there's a good chance we would lose? | ||
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On March 27 2011 04:57 annul wrote: his final conclusion is "we need to kill in item game." cool, i agree, and this is what i have been saying from the get go. as for what to do in the future, let's see what the flip is Oh sorry, I thought his conclusion was we can't mess up our IG lynch --> more info for main thread from the IG game would be nice. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:05 Mr. Wiggles wrote: My final conclusion is we need to kill in item game, but if we shoot town, we're relying completely on the actions of scum for whether we win or not. We have to try our hardest to kill scum on the first lynch, and how we're deciding the lynch now is just off the reads of the few people in the game. Scum will agree to any lynch that isn't them. Town will agree to any lynch they think is scum. Town will not agree to their own lynch. Scum will not agree to their own lynch. So, when you're basing the lynch off just a few players' decisions in the item game, if you picked wrong, you're going to get the support of two scum automatically, and then all they need to do is convince one more town, that's 4/6. This is why I'd really like to at least see some of the thought process behind what's going on here, because the whole town might get screwed based on the wrong decisions of just a couple people. Ok yeah, nvm, I was right lol | ||
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On March 27 2011 06:36 Coagulation wrote: bullshit i have posted scummy PM's i got from him and analyzed them and showed people why i think they are scummy 2 times. go back and read the thread dont tell me i havnt found "ONE" scummy thing. Do you mean this one coag? Or is there more? Want to compile to view easier. | ||
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Jackal approached Coag with a plan that will confirm each other to one another. Coag accepts that the plan is logical, foolproof, and will work. Since it is in the Item Game where there is only 1 red and 1 black, Coag reasons that MAFIA would never do this since mafia wouldn't want to confirm himself as red. This is why Coag is defending Jackal. Is that the reasoning coag? | ||
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On March 27 2011 08:50 Coagulation wrote: Do you really think if he is scum he would put himself in the spotlight with an elaborate plan to catch scum... when all he would have to do is sit back and let town continue riding the annul is scum wave that the whole town was roaring about earlier. Think about it? Whos the easier target annul or tack Well it's not like it hasn't happened before. BC did it once in a game I think. I don't think it's as likely, but I wouldn't say that's impossible/implausible. However, I do think that had you said your reasoning for trusting Jackal earlier as "He made a plan with me to confirm ourselves to one another and I don't think mafia would do this" I think we could have avoided a lot of shit. | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:04 Jackal58 wrote: You've done nothing but call me scum. How do you propose to eliminate the red and the black from the item game? What's your plan hot shot? How do you propose going about doing it. Oh I know. I'll defend the hell out of my scum buddy. That's your plan. Ok let's cool it guys, both of you. That's not even real logic anymore. Just cause someone defends someone else that you think is scum, doesn't mean they're scum. I can understand where Insanious is coming from as Tack has been posting pretty pro-town in thread (my opinion) while I also finally understand where you're coming from with Coag. Let's all take a step back and reassess everything. First we need to think about this Jackal-Coag confirm plan. Even without knowing the details, is it possible for mafia/black to mess it up. And then we need to go over Tack's posts in detail. Are they actually pro-town? I have a headache from god knows what right now so I'll take some aspirin and lay down for bit to think about it all. I hope everyone else does too. | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:20 ilovejonn wrote: Wtf are you talking about, lynching Darm won't do us shit and the Jackal vs Tack debate will go on for another Day. Tack/Jackal has to go today. I said right now -_- and that I was going to go to review. As in if I had to vote RIGHT NOW, I'm not ready to make a decision on Jackal/Tack. But I will soon. Right after this fucking aspirin kicks in. | ||
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So yeah, you can turn this thing on all sides, but the only other alternative would be to lynch outside IG and hope neither team has enough brawn to try and wipe out all the others. IF we hit the item game, I predict a slaughter. But I could be wrong because, as I said, both teams may fear the other team too much to make a move. okaaaaaaaay. so who would I pick from item game? Coag, but that's based purely on that little thing I posted regarding his defense of Jackal. So you talk about how it's bad to hit the item game cause it'll lead to a "slaughter" by your predictions and insinuate that we should lynch someone outside it but then go on to talk about lynching coag when we've already established why his logic and defense of Jackal makes sense? Yeah...ok.... Also @bum. At this point the Tack/Jackal/Darm situation strikes me like this: Rereading over Tack's first few posts, it does seem very pro town at first but under review it's basically listing a lot of stuff and writing about things that everyone was talking about: Mayor vote, whether mayor should allow for town vote or not, etc. There wasn't much NEW things added. At the same time, a lot of other people did that to a certain extent. Though the fact that it took a few read-throughs to pick up on this fact worries me. Good scum maybe? But then, he passed tnkted's (?) test so that gives him some green cred in my mind. In regards to Jackal, at this point I think Jackal and Coag are way more townie than Tack though just because I finally understand the whole "WE HAVE A CONFIRM EACH OTHER PLAN!! MAFIA WOULDN'T DO THAT!!" situation. And like you said, darm is lurking and not really posting shit. We all got powers, there's no reason not to get involved if you're town. Darm>Tack>Jackal right now in terms of scumminess for me. | ||
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Subject: Re: Item Game Date: 3/26/11 11:52 The people in the item game pre-picked their roles, however there may be exceptions. Original Message From chaoser: What is the item game? The item game is a game within a game, so you can play both. Keep in mind, if you sign up for the item game, you will get no other role. Basically I'm giving people the opportunity to pick their roles right now if they want to play the item game Do you mean that the people in the item game pre-picked their roles and you won't give them another one or that being in the item game is a role aka they are in the item game and they can't be vigi/medic/DT etc. ? | ||
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On March 27 2011 10:50 CubEdIn wrote: That's reserved for the cool posters. On March 27 2011 10:50 CubEdIn wrote: And me. So sad when people are deluded in their own prowess... | ||
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On March 27 2011 11:10 annul wrote: yeah thats not cheating as all darmo ;\ What do you mean? | ||
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On March 27 2011 13:11 GGQ wrote: Oh, hi! I know I've been pretty inactive thus far, so I'm quoting this post where I'm the first person wanting to lynch darmousseh in order to boost my credibility in this game. Quality, not quantity! I'm suggesting Lanaia and maybe Amber[Light], after going through all of their posts, as additional blacks. Less sure about reds, but Meapak and OriginalName are on my list. Let's get some suggestions of protects/investigates out there. Specific people, not just generalities. Supporting a lynch of a red/black player doesn't mean as much as it usually does since reds don't know black and visa versa. It's more important to look at who's against the lynches. | ||
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On March 27 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote: yeah no shit kav Yo, don't be so mean lol, maybe it's not all crap. Kav, you going to post soon? Too drunk, too sleepy, going to go eat some chocolate and vinegar chips and crash . Peace outside motherfuckers, going to sleep. | ||
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On March 27 2011 14:19 Coagulation wrote: sorry i was trying to be enthusiastic. its ok its ok lol <3 <3 <3 coag | ||
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On March 27 2011 16:23 kevconsim wrote: doesnt everyone lie at some point in this game? Who here can say they have never lied? scumslip...? | ||
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On March 28 2011 00:21 Jackal58 wrote: The secret he revealed is you let slip you received a PM from RoL. And as a first time player it's fascinating that you would be picking the "how to play scum tips" to determine how to play. I call bullshit on the whole "it was a mistake on my part I mixed them up". No fucking way is RoL anywhere close to Jackal. Not to mention he's not in the item game. I bet you looked at your PM box, wrote the first name at the top cause you weren't looking too carefully to make up a lie and it just happened to be RoL. If someone shoots Tack/we decide to lynch him tomorrow and he flips red, we gotta take a look RoL. | ||
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On March 28 2011 00:59 Tackster wrote: Besides the only way RoL can PM me is if he's red and i'm red. If that's the case how can I assume he is allowed to PM annul? If I did make a mistake and use the wrong name why is it more likely that I used a name from another PM and not a name from the main thread? When I started all your names looked like the similar the non-referenced gibberish all over the internet. Now that the game has gotten further I can finally remember (some) of the names of people in this forum. The point is that he can't PM annul -_-. If they're both mafia and that was some crazy play, which i doubt since annul left the other game too and asked to be replaced, then that's some pretty good acting. | ||
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On March 28 2011 01:08 LSB wrote: Question for you guys, what's up with Annul claiming someone broke the rule? Basically RoL ##shoot annul in thread and then on AIM messaged him a smiley face. So annul thought that the hit went through cause obviously PMs aren't allowed between the two of them I assume. So he figured it was a real hit and he dumped all his info. And then RoL said it was a bluff. Technically the smiley face was cheating. | ||
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But it's your game so up to you. Either way I don't think annul is going to play anymore so good job RoL. | ||
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On March 28 2011 01:32 Coagulation wrote: annul is a big boy he will be ok. I don't think it's about whether he's a big boy or not. Personally I'd be ok with it since, whatever, I can shrug things off. But I would still think it's wrong for RoL to smiley face me. I don't care if its only a smiley face. In the situation where you said you shot me and then PM/communicated to me outside of thread. No matter how slight, I'd view it as a legit PM and that I was dead. Bluffing a shot is ok but smiley facing outside the thread to make it seem "more real" is not in my opinion. RoL did the smiley on purpose to make annul think he was really dead so he started dumping info. Obviously you can question, well, why did annul post all his shit then? he's dead, he should stop talking. But I think it's cause the PM rule is actually written in the rules as "NO PMs IN GAME UNLESS YOU'RE IN A GROUP." while the "YOU ARE NOT DEAD UNTIL I UPDATE" rule isn't. Fuzzy rules in my opinion. Should be more clear next time on it. | ||
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On March 28 2011 01:44 Jackal58 wrote: Because you're scum. You claim to be new. You're not new. You're a smurf. Who are you Tack? Ver again??? LSB made if fairly clear in the OP he wanted some smurfs. He wanted smurfs that told him who they were. You're one of them. You are most assuredly no noob. It's also interesting you so easily dismiss your item. A mood ring. Used to check alignments Funny how the black team got a similar item. Who needs DT's if there is only one scum faction? Town. Who needs DTs if there are 2 scum factions? Everybody. Interesting how darm was the CEO of the black faction. Interesting he had a DT item. You're the GF aren't you Tack? You are certainly no noob. You most assuredly didn't get confused because you don't know anybody's names. Who are you Tack? Foolishness? Ver? Qatol? Because you aren't a noob.. I doubt he's the godfather dude...what kind of retarded mafia would put their GF in the item game, the one place where it's 100% sure that he'll be found and lynched>? | ||
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On March 28 2011 02:27 tnkted wrote: What? why can you edit? You're on the playerlist... no he aint lol | ||
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On March 28 2011 03:03 Ver wrote: If I was in this game I would've subbed out when it reached 86 posts in day 1. But that's cause you're prepping for NASL =P | ||
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On March 28 2011 05:26 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Didn't I just finish telling you like last week how I win everything? Yeah. And then I HELPED SET YOU ON FIRE AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. chaoser 1, RoL 0 | ||
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Well, looks like people aren't really using their items well. Only one person was able to use his item. Only problem is that he found himself in the wrong place. He stood over the dead body of Annul and wondered what happened. And why was there two bullets when he only loaded one in his gun? And what's up with all the blood smeared on him? Someone in the item game tried to shoot someone else but ended up getting his target changed to annul. I don't get the two bullets part though. Was the two bullets in annul or in his gun? If they are in annul then this accounts for 1 kill. Next up Gmarshal was minding his own business. Suddenly he was kidnapped and wrapped in duct tape. His kidnapper left. Then someone else came back with a gun, and shot him. GM got roleblocked? and then shot. This accounts for 1 kill. Someone wasn't as sucess full at killing people. Another person started giggling at gifts he left people. Another person drove his bus around, confusing a few people. Someone didn't kill someone else. Accounts for another shot? Gotta bus driver in there. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:21 Coagulation wrote: This confirms Tackster as scum 100% TACKSTER WAS THE VIGI SHOT TARGET LAST NIGHT SOMEONE BUSSED THE SHOT TO ANNUL Proven scum100% Easy lynch Can we get an update on your confirm of Jackal? | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:30 ilovejonn wrote: I'm pretty certain Tack will be Day 2 lynch then. The probability of him being scum is too high now. Really? How are you so sure of that? How are you sure it's not a set up? Jackal set Coag up, told him to shoot Tack. Mafia had a bus driver, drives the shot to annul. They get a kill and they get a town lynch. That's viable too. The only person I trust right now is Bum. Not you fucking idiots screaming your heads off. Calm the fuck down or I'm going to start thinking you're scum trying to misdirection town by being so set on making it seem like Tack is scum. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:43 Tackster wrote: We're not even an hour into day 2 and already you're putting votes up???? Apart from the rushing very little of the possible information gleaned has even been analysed AND Bum hasn't voted just stated something... So in case I die remember this post and remember how chaoser reacted!! I told everyone to calm down, even defended you, and told them to wait for bum. When he confirmed that you were probably scum I voted for you. That's how I reacted. I've played infinitely more town than you have all game. Don't try to play it like it's some abnormal reaction. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:51 Insanious wrote: One misconception. Since Annul and Tack were bussed. Then both shots were on Tack, and were bussed to Annul. Doesn't really change anything, but ya. There's no way mafia would want to shoot Tack if he was green UNLESS they had a bus driver that could divert it. And also, just cause we voted doesn't mean we can't change it Tack. If and when we get more info on the situation, we will switch depending on how much we trust that info. | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:11 Jackal58 wrote: annul gave up the game. We all used our items. I've been threatening a nightkill since I announced my plan. We can't steal an item and use an item at the same time. Town wouldn't steal. It was set up so if their was a theft it would be from me. Tack couldn't take a chance that I was lying. So he stole from me. Scum didn't want to take a chance that I was lying so they used a bus driver. Tack is about as 100% confirmed scum as you can get. Seriously you and Coag need to write things out more clearly -_- You said you had a gun and would probs use it on Tack. Tack wanted to steal the gun so you wouldn't shoot him. It was a lie and instead Coag had the gun. He shot Tack. Mafia didn't want to take chances so they bussed Tack. Is that what you're saying? If so, in that case, didn't Coag claim he had a stun gun or something way early in the thread? Didn't you claim you had a band aid? | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:18 Coagulation wrote: i lied about stun gun to make mafia think twice about hitting me. So that's not your real item? Your real item is a legit gun? | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:21 tnkted wrote: says right there that lemon wasn't able to use their item. Either that or the gun never went off. It never says people aren't using their items. It says people aren't using them WELL. Using a vest when no one is shooting you isn't the best choice for you, you could be STEALING. | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:24 tnkted wrote: ONLY ONE PERSON USED THEIR ITEM. Clear as day. From: Lemonwalrus [ 4454 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: Re: hey Date: 3/28/11 12:21 I protected. It seemed like my only play...but I'm starting to think I should have stolen tack's shit. (it auto uses every night even if I protect it) Original Message From Coagulation: did u use your vest? Only coag used. Lemon protected/defended. | ||
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On March 28 2011 13:18 Amber[LighT] wrote: I really don't like this bandwagoning that's going on. Yah it's really suspicious that your hit got swapped but it just seems too convenient. We're allowing the trigger happy coag run the show. Are we going to see a townie fall today because of your short-sighted analysis? The only thing that could have gone wrong is if LW set Tack up. Either way, Town will win IG. If we lynch Tack and he's green, LW is mafia in which case we just medic protect one of Jackal and Coag and we lynch LW the next day. Coag might be trigger happy but the plan makes sense and given that it's Jackal who thought it up, I'm not very surprised to say the least, he has a thing for gambits. Bum supports it as well and seems to be supporting the story that's coming out of Coag/Jackal so I'm going to be following that. I've already looked at a lot of Tack's posts and though he's been posting, a lot of it has been either echoing what other people have said or has been arguing with annul. He posts big ass posts but they have little substance. I can post by post analysis if you want. All the people saying it's convenient, that's a WIFOM argument and you know it. Unless things surface that will shed more light onto this situation and put a new spin on it, I'm going to believe Coag and Jackal and Bum. | ||
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Logical Inconsistency: If Tackster were Red, why would he both try to steal the item to prevent his death, AND Red would use their Bus on him? Surely one would have been sufficient to save him. This is primarily what is making me look more closely into what's happening rather than blindly accepting that Tack is scum. They already mentioned this. It's Jackal. Mafia didn't want to take chances cause Jackal likes his gambits. They stole and also bussed Tackster just in cause. Also, mafia could have been afraid that someone else outside the game that was town would shoot into the game at Tackster. | ||
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On March 28 2011 14:22 Kavdragon wrote: Let me get this straight: You haven't read the thread well enough to understand that Bum is our mayor, not Annul, and that GMarshal the BG died, not the mayor. Yet you are coming back from your hiatus to defend someone? Why start posting now, and why start defending someone who you clearly can't have read enough about to understand? Not to mention all the stuff he says has been said before. Either by me or by tons of other people who were talking about the election why before he did. He adds a cute little list in the front, which mafia like to do under the guise of "organizing info" which gives us no new info. He doesn't do a single piece of analysis on anyone in the game till Jackal comes out and says TACK YOU IS MAFIA! after which he gets into an argument with them. | ||
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On March 28 2011 14:30 orgolove wrote: I'm going off of last reasonable information I remember. I have not yet had a chance to read over the other 50 pages of posts, but still want to contribute. I'm just bringing into discussion the fact that he so strongly supported the clear blue even before most of the town was for him, and further made a lot of high information posts - all pretty strong contra-indicators of scum. WTF...who does that...that's like saying I don't play this game. But I'll try to contribute. Townie would never want to contribute without knowing the full details, much less say they don't know the full details but want to make sense of things. How the fuck do you make sense of things without knowing what things are in the first place? Also, in regards to the "he so strongly supported the clear blue": 1) Coag's post about bum being pretty much confirmed blue. 2) Not to mention all the stuff he says has been said before. Either by me or by tons of other people who were talking about the election why before he did. He adds a cute little list in the front, which mafia like to do under the guise of "organizing info" which gives us no new info. He doesn't do a single piece of analysis on anyone in the game till Jackal comes out and says TACK YOU IS MAFIA! after which he gets into an argument with them. | ||
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By jackals argument if I was green should I have let myself get shot or something? What would any other green do in my position? Yes. You would want to get shot. Why? Cause if you flipped green, it'd be 1/4 chances of catching mafia in the item game. Since annul got shot, it would be 1/3 chance. You not dying made today be about you v Jackal again. If you had died, it would have been Jackal on the chopping block since it was his plan. Or we start looking at LW. If I was in your situation, I would have used my item to check Jackal or maybe LW, not steal some shit. Townies don't care much for living, only that they can somehow help town win. 2. No one is confirmed No one is ever confirmed unless they're dead. There's no such thing as confirmation of alignment, even DTs can be insane and give wrong reads. The fact of the matter is, Jackal came out and FoS-ed you. His actions compared to your actions, in my head, shows that he is more town then you are. His plan makes sense while you haven't done a single thing for town. Your posts have been basically copies of other people's posts, and until Jackal FoSed you, you didn't give a single FoS or analysis of anyone else. You merely defended Bum's blueness, you didn't even call out annul as scum. Why would I bus to annul? Annul claimed he was out of the game and outed his item power which affects me NOT AT ALL. Annul was pretty much going to be read as town. RoL's stupid little gambit worked and annul's reaction was that of a town thinking he was dead, not of mafia. Mafia take things to the grave on the off chance something they said gives shit away, townies don't. That being said, it's better to get rid of a green that everyone knows is a green and then try to argue against someone who is less "confirmed" like Jackal. 4. Jackal can easily be mafia. 5. The IG is in grave peril So making the assumption I'm green: - I get lynched and flip green - scum use their 2 KP to kill the other greens - Red is last one standing and therefore red team get the items Not true and a contradiction, if anything, I feel like IG is going to be won by town if both statements are true. It's just whether we have three confirmed townies or one. If you are green, you get lynched, it's 1 red, 2 green. We got medics, LW got a vest. If Jackal really is red like you said, then all we have to do is chill out, and tell LW to protect. It's a passive vest that makes him bullet proof. Mafia can't shoot into that shit. Black is lynched so he can't be black. Next day, we lynch Jackal. BOOM. Town wins IG. Do I win a prize? Bum, can I get some Batman lovin'? | ||
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4. Jackal can easily be mafia. 5. The IG is in grave peril So making the assumption I'm green: - I get lynched and flip green - scum use their 2 KP to kill the other greens - Red is last one standing and therefore red team get the items I meant to say that the two statements 4 and 5 are contradictions and can't both happen. If Jackal is Red then Town wins IG. If game is in peril then Jackal isn't Red. You are green - Jackal is Red - You get lynched: LW - Jackal - Coag left. LW got a vest. We got medics. Mafia wouldn't know who to bus, who to roleblock, who to hit. At most 1 of them will die since to kill any one of them you have to factor in medic and vest. Next day, we lynch Jackal. Town wins the IG. | ||
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On March 28 2011 15:11 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Coagulation, I think you are wrong about being the town KP. I think the town must have some other sort of KP independent of you. The IG is meant to reward whichever faction can win it, it doesn't make sense to shove the town's KP into the IG and put it up for grabs without the reds/blacks putting anything else up. I saw a few other things I wanted to comment on, but I forgot what they were while I was playing diplomacy. You are so useless...I hope you fail at diplomacy and get three way raped <3 | ||
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Now I admit it's possible that coagulation or lemon are scum. However for coag to shoot the person and bus himself is too alien to consider. For Lemon to be planning all this in his first game is possible given he has a PM circle - but seems unlikely. You obviously haven't read my post properly. I said a better bus would be to lemon. You havent mentioned why that is wrong Both are unlikely to you in the JACKAL MIGHT BE RED POST. Your post pretty much says that you think JACKAL is red. In that case, we got item game won since point number 5, which is you trying to scare people into not voting for you, is wrong. SEE! WE GOTS IT YO! | ||
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This is a matter of opinion. Feeling we lynch a town tonight is acceptable doesn't mean you should gamble with the vote anyway. Use some logic maybe? Nah son, it's straight up fact. Just like how there's a difference between loose and lose. That shit is grammar. That is a fact. Droppin' KNOWLEDGE!! | ||
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On March 28 2011 15:26 chaoser wrote: Nah son, it's straight up fact. Just like how there's a difference between loose and lose. That shit is grammar. That is a fact. Droppin' KNOWLEDGE!! Completely off topic but ![[image loading]](http://i52.tinypic.com/2j42ers.png) My friends are fucking douches | ||
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So you're entire point there was rather than check any points I made just go with If we lynch tack maybe he's mafia If not we can gamble to hopefully win the IG I should just not try and defend myself and agree to gamble the IG away? WRONG! It's not a gamble. If Jackal is red, like you think he is, then town wins the IG. The Two hits are LW and Coag for Mafia. They have two KP. We got a vest and lets say 2 medics (standard amount). 1 medic on Coag, 1 medic on LW. There's nothing mafia can do. At the most, they'll kill 1 town. | ||
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On March 28 2011 16:05 Tackster wrote: Ok this game consists of mechanics we dont know about yes? so: framers nerfers drivers etc. + everything we don't know about Lemons vest is useless as it can be stolen. And there's always the chance that Coag or Lemon are scum... That isn't even close to auto-win Vest can't be stolen since it's a passive ability and all LW needs to do is protect. | ||
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On March 28 2011 17:29 Coagulation wrote: A black probably did it in hopes that Red would shoot lemon what...that doesn't even make sense...reds know there's no blues in IG too... | ||
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On March 28 2011 17:30 Coagulation wrote: bum did you even stop to consider that he could be targeted for a role reversal? I don't think role reversal works that way... | ||
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On March 28 2011 23:26 Insanious wrote: but if that was true, then if the bomb went off, the bus driver would of died too... I don't think they would sacrifice their bus driver to kill coag in the item game. Also, why was annul shot twice? That's a question too...hmmm and @Jackal and @Coag, you said you would rethink your decision on who was mafia if new info came out. Bum came out with new info. Also LSB came out with the new info that apparently Annul stole the mood ring? Tackster, did this happen? Why weren't we informed earlier? Here's the list of questions I have that I'm thinking about: 1) Why did Tackster get bussed to annul? To get a double kill from annul's bomb? 2) Why was annul shot twice if Tackster was bus? To make sure annul was dead? 3) Why does annul have the mood ring and why didn't Tackster say he got it stolen? and finally 4) Why did LW show up as blue from a check? At this point I can no longer safely say that Tackster is beyond a doubt mafia so I'm going to read through LW and Tackster's posts. Plans are nice and all but at the end of the day post analysis is king. Every what Ver/BC/Ace have said about plans guys, town relies too much on them, post analysis is best. Also @Jackal and @Coag, tunnel a bit less and just take a step back. What if Bum's check on LW came up red? Would you say he got framed? You said you were open to new info but clearly at this point you're not since you continue to not only 1) push the issue even though weird info is coming up and 2) just claim everyone who is defending Tackster to be scum. Is that really advantageous for town? In the end we've just created an clusterfuck of a convo. Calm the fuck down and think about everything. Something is wrong, we need to figure it out. Let's not just say, nope, can't figure it out, BASH HEAD AGAINST TACK!!! | ||
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On March 29 2011 00:27 Rean wrote: for those talking about the potato: it didn't go off. Yeah, thanks, we know it didn't go off, if it did Tack would be dead too | ||
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On March 29 2011 00:36 Jackal58 wrote: I'm still waiting for bum to explain his 85% - 100% Tack is scum statement. Do you believe Bum is blue? | ||
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On March 29 2011 00:45 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Bum didn't say tack was scum, did he? I thought he said LW had a funky check but was leaning towards tack as well. Yeah, bum said he thought tack was scum I think. I'll go find the post | ||
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On March 29 2011 00:49 LSB wrote: I forgot that annul stole an item, I edited it in the Day 2 post Ok, Tack, why didn't you come out and say your item was stolen? | ||
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On March 29 2011 00:50 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: So wait, is that item gone forever now? I think it's gone at the current moment but when whomever wins the game, they get all of them LSB, how will items be distributed if town wins game? | ||
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Annul the Item Game Participant has died Alignment PM. (Mafia Miller) not a bodyguard so yeah... | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:30 tnkted wrote: I'm not actually sure. Night 0 perhaps? LSB said that there was a very good reason night 0 existed and I'm not convinced it was to vote 'godfatheresque' positions in. I think black has an alignment check they could use either night 0, or during the day and they used it at one point to check what annul was. Makes sense, he was one of the most vocal people at the beginning of the game running for mayor and black would obviously want to know if he was red or not. We should look back and see if our little confirmed black in the IG supported annul's candidacy or not. Highly doubt this...we didn't even have role PMs yet. | ||
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Don't know, something changed Coag's target from Tack to annul though 2) Why was annul shot twice if Tackster was bus? Don't know yet 3) Why does annul have the mood ring and why didn't Tackster say he got it stolen? Annul stole it and LSB didn't take that into account and finally 4) Why did LW show up as blue from a check? Tntked claims he bussed Lemon and Bum and so when DTs checked lemon, it came up blue I have a question for tnkt, why did you bus Lemon and Bum? | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:36 deconduo wrote: Here's the biggest thing to be taken away from tnkted's claim: If he is telling the truth, Tack is pretty much confirmed to be town. He is the only one in the item game that didn't know Coag was the one that actually had the gun. Why is he confirmed town again? | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:42 Insanious wrote: Because Tack was the only one who thought that Jackal would shoot him. As well, the bus driver bussed lemon + bum This would mean that coag was mind controlled. Meaning the mafia needed to know who was shooting. This would mean either jackal or lemon is mafia, as they were the only two that knew coag would shoot. Operative statement being: This would mean that coag was mind controlled. We don't know if that's true or not. If it is true then yeah, Tack is probably town. | ||
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1) 1 shot on Lemon, bussed to Bum. Gmarshal took the hit This doesn't make sense. Bodyguards don't jump in front of someone and take a shot for them, mafia has to find and kill BGs first before they can kill the mayor. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:21 Rean wrote: ....oh. I thought they'd jump in front of them and save them with their life >.> That fucks up my whole theory. Also Kav claimed he got shot so yeah, you missed that. Here's how it looks like 2 shots on annul 1 shot on Kav 1 shot on GM GM's dead so then it's 2 shots on annul 1 shot on Kav Let's say Kav is telling the truth and he got shot 2 shots on annul Why 2 shots is the major question. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:01 Tackster wrote: Guys I have some extremely pro-town information I got earlier. However as it would help the mafia if they knew it i really want a way to tell bum without others knowing. If any blues or greens can somehow PM me please do so as soon as possible so I can out this information. If there are suggestions on another way I can let bum know please tell me. I'm not sure if this info is worth outing in case mafia get it so let me know before I have to decide to out it or not. I got this information by asking LSB a question in PM that I don't believe anyone else has asked. While it concerns the IG it does not concern any actions or persons in the game - only the IG mechanics. Post it. If it's from LSB and it's about the mechanics of the game then we should know. This game is probably going to end by the end of Night 2 so the more info the better. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:27 Rean wrote: If the bodyguards actually don't take shots, then my first thought would be that the failed shot was actually at Bum, who got bussed with Lemonwalrus. Obviously, that shot would fail since there was another bodyguard still alive. The shot was fired at Lemonwalrus initially in that case. Black's shot would've gone to GMarshal, since they didn't really know who to hit and just randomly picked him. Annul got shot by the reds and Coagulation then, the question still remains: why or how did coagulation end up shooting annul? Kav claimed he got shot.... | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:29 Rean wrote: Why would mafia try to shoot Kav when their interest is in the item game? Cause Kav is a good mafia player? Why would they shoot both annul, make coag shoot annul, and also try to shoot LW? Why do you think LW got shot? Even if Bum hadn't been bussed LW would have lived a shot. | ||
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On March 29 2011 04:01 iGrok wrote: I can use him as an excuse. He's posting in the thread. If he weren't allowed to post in thread he'd be added to the ban list, right? Get off the topic please. Dead players technically shouldn't post in thread but it's not a strict rule, sometimes players like to make comments that have nothing to do with the game or just go "lol" like ace does. | ||
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On March 29 2011 04:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: You do realize we are basically in mylo right? If we miss the lynch in the IG the mafia can perform a wipe on the remaining players. Yeah, assuming no medics/other types of blues to help, we're at LYLO. Though tnkt can just bus one of them with someone else and then mafia can't kill that guy. This is assuming tnkt is town | ||
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So, now we're back to the IG. It isn't LYLO, because now we have a bus driver, in addition to medics! Black has no reason to shoot into the IG anymore. Red has 2 KP. So... tnkted busses one of the IG participants (probably Coag, seems most likely town), and we have another day. In fact... let's assume we lynch Tack, he flips town. tnkted busses a townie in the IG tonight, mafia hits both non-red players. One guy dies, the guy tnkted busses lives, we have confirmed town, lynch last mafia in item game, GG. So at this point, assuming we play it right, we have the item game in the bag. Thank you, what I've been saying all of today -_-. We got the tools needed to make sure we have a very good chance of winning the game, whether Tack is green or not (at this point I still think he's red). Mafia can get into a little role and KP dance with us if they want but if they don't do it right they lose big. There's a vest in there not to mention tnkt as a bus driver and surely we got a few medics. We can win the IG. Mafia's fighting an uphill battle. Which is why I only really care for bum's circle response to all of this. | ||
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On March 29 2011 07:04 Pandain wrote:  Actually no I haven't read this at all, just the last couple pages :p Get out of here you! You're a Panda! Panda's don't even know how to type! | ||
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On March 29 2011 08:07 Pandain wrote: If I was mayor I wouldn't let this place become spam-fest. But since I left this place, I can now contribute to the spam without shame. You know whats funny? Confirmed town. Yet no one noticed. NSFW + Show Spoiler + That's not really a confirm though, LSB was talking about stealing, using, protecting, PMing fellow game members. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:21 deconduo wrote: Theres a very strong case for the mafia to be either Lemon or Jackal. I think its Lemon. Would you at least not be as blind/stubborn as Jackal and think about it? The facts are there. I don't know why the two of you are so narrow minded but it really isn't helping the slightest. You have no case against Tack whatsoever and you refuse to admit it. When Tack flips town it will be too late, and chances are you'll have cost us the entire game. Stop with your hyperbola and fear mongering. Cost us the whole game? Unlikely. Losing us the IG, more likely but we still have the advantage. It seems mafia has a role block and a mind control. They can't cover medics/bus driver/vest all at once. To even get past the many combination of things we can do requires a shit load of luck from them. And even if they do get through, they'll kill 1 person max. Next day we can lynch the mafia and win IG. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:32 Mr. Wiggles wrote: But then why does it say that Annul got hit twice? Was that a joke? Right now, if annul got hit twice, you're proposing there was 5 KP last night, or else the Day post was misguiding. The KP are explained as 2 on annul - 1 from red, 1 from a redirected hit from Coag who wanted to hit Tack 1 on Kav - black/red 1 on GM - black/red That's 4 | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:37 Jackal58 wrote: Bullshit. I have my fucking dick stretched across half the globe to win the IG and ultimately the entire game for town and that's the best you can do??? Bullshit. And explain the Tack is 100% scum to 85 - 100% scum to now you're looking scummier than LW. Ok you need to calm down...pretty sure bum isn't scum by this point. The fact that you're suggesting it shows that you need to chill the fuck out. Blues not claiming at this point would be pretty fail and we would deserve to lose. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:38 bumatlarge wrote: Because of his vest item. Accuse me all you want, I can't clarify any more then that. Wait, LW had the vest, not annul | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Bum just claimed Coag's KP was used on Tackster and that annul was hit once. He explained it as: 1 on annul, from red 1 on Kav, black/red 1 on Gmarshal, black/red 1 on Tack, Coag And I asked him why he didn't put annul as being hit twice, when that looks like a definite clue in the day post. 2 on annul - 1 from red, 1 from a redirected hit from Coag who wanted to hit Tack 1 on Kav - black/red 1 on GM - black/red Coag aimed at Tack. But his shot went to annul. Someone messed with the shot. It's care by looking at the day post. Coag was "confused" | ||
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Specificially (bum being hit notwithstanding, apparently that never happened), Tack can not be guilty because he thought Jackal had the gun. If Tack was mafia he would have mind controlled Jackal to kill annul and not Coagulation, who really had it. Actually this is wrong. Mafia covered all bases. They stole had Tack steal from Jackal and they mind controlled Coag. That makes it so that no shot could land on Tack. | ||
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On March 29 2011 10:39 chaoser wrote: Actually this is wrong. Mafia covered all bases. They had Tack steal from Jackal and they mind controlled Coag. That makes it so that no shot could land on Tack. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:55 orgolove wrote: I just read over most of the thread and the voting thread. Nothing in the thread 100% proves Tackster is red, as bum claims. In fact, the past ~30 or pages have only cast increasing doubt on coagulation's insistence... Tackster can't be a red. the only advantage of Reds and Blacks are information. But he did not know that coag was actually the one with the gun. All discussions about how his play of stealing rather than using the mood ring aside, I cannot understand why so many votes are still on Tackster. Just going to quote this since it's basically him 1) defending Tack and 2) Yes, he didn't know. Either Jackal or Coag could have been using a gun. So Tack stole from Jackal and then mafia mind controlled Coag. That way Tack would be safe from hits. | ||
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On March 29 2011 10:56 tnkted wrote: Coag, are you saying that they used their mind control ability on you JUST IN CASE you and jackal had built up a hugely elaborate plan spanning 80+ pages, then shot annul with their own KP, JUST IN CASE you were running a sting operation? That is hugely unlikely that they would spend so much of their force on a hunch like that. On March 29 2011 11:01 tnkted wrote: I just wrote up a huge long post saying precicely what I've said 6 fucking times and then deleted it because the way I am trying to explain this is clearly not working. Lets try it a new way: 1. Coag, why do you think you were mind controlled last night? 2. How did they know to mind control you? 3. Why didn't mafia just steal the gun from you? They didn't need to know who had the gun. Their plan was simple. 1) Make sure Tack wasn't killed 2) Make sure annul was dead So they did this 1) Steal from Jackal 2) Mind control Coag 3) Shoot annul This covers their entire plan. They kill the "confirmed green" of annul. They stop Tack from being killed. If Jackal had the gun, they just stole it. If Coag had the gun, they just shot annul. Just to cover all their bases they shot annul. See? Simple. Do I get batman lovin' yet??? | ||
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On March 29 2011 11:58 orgolove wrote: LSB, does the "no abstain" rule only apply for the mayoral election, or does it apply forall votes? Can I please see where coagulation specifically mentioned the stun gun issue? I don't remember reading Tackster talking about a stun gun at all. On March 27 2011 15:44 Coagulation wrote: ok guys i will let you know my item I have a stun gun if i choose to use it at night anyone that tries to hit me at night will be stunned and the hit will be prevented. additionally i can go through the stunned players belongings and get the alignment of that player theres 1 more detail im leaving out cause it will only help scum knowing it. However if i use the stun gun i will be open to theft So im 50/50 about using it or not. | ||
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On March 29 2011 11:59 iGrok wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Tackster Anyone else see this in vote thread? he unvoted LW, voted Tack and didn't think to hit us up in thread. Sneaky Sneaky. | ||
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On March 29 2011 12:17 iGrok wrote: chaoser, I don't feel the need to say "Oh wait, everything you guys are saying makes sense". Sue me. Jeez, why so defensive? Could have just been like, yeah, sorry, I didn't think it was needed. But instead we get some snark. | ||
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On March 29 2011 16:52 Kavdragon wrote: Mafia likely hit Annul, so why would they also redirect coag's bullet into him? Ugh....GGQ explains it. Mafia thought Coag had stun gun which would have disabled annul's bomb, making it safe to hit him. So they mind control Coag to "disable" bomb. What really happened was that Coag had a real gun and shot annul instead. Mafia didn't expect this. | ||
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On March 29 2011 17:16 Kavdragon wrote: Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding, but Lemon knew that Coag had a KP gun, correct? If Lemon was mafia, they would know that Redirecting coag's shot to annul would result in a double hit on annul. Since there would be no reason to double stack annul, it is unlikely that Lemon is mafia. That's what I was trying to say in answer to CubEdIn. oh ok got it. going to sleep then | ||
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On March 30 2011 02:30 deconduo wrote: Your fault for saying you were going to shoot him. Next time don't tunnel townies and you might live <3 lol did you just threaten to kill Jackal?? | ||
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On March 30 2011 03:41 Tackster wrote: My first experience of forum mafia includes: Jackals 'great' tunnel based on a plan that made no sense… coags incessant deafness and his willingness to accept confirmations that weren't real… And now bum using his position as leader to make mistakes and then laugh in the face of them… I know I can be wrong and hardly expect everyone to agree with me but the way some of these debates have gone... A lot of the people in here seem like fun and there have been some laughs, absolutely. But the way the game is being played… I'm feeling a little put off tbh. Did everyone feel this at first or what? Oh come off it. I think the discussion on your lynch has been rather well thought out. Though they started off pretty much from coag/jackal going OMG GUT READ! The things that have happened so far not to mention all the posts from you and the people defending you have been pretty much NO U SUCK! THIS IS WHAT I THINK HAPPENED! DON'T LYNCH ME, MAYBE IT'S NOT ME! At this point I'm 80% sure you're mafia. There's no such thing as 100% sure. Even mafia can bring up the argument that it's not 100% sure they're mafia and then ask the town to reconsider. Who shot annul the second time? Is LW a mafia? I can't say for certain about those issues. No one can. But the situation that arose worked out best when considering you were mafia. We can throw out all these scenarios but you as mafia matched the best. In regards to the stungun, Coag did say there was a secret feature that mafia didn't know about and he wasn't going to tell them. Obviously mafia could have thought that it meant he can disable other people's actions especially since his "revealed" part made it seem like he could disable people who visited him. Or they could have read the part he posted differently and thought it could disable people he visited too. Only mafia would know what they actually thought. I trust bum's secret source that mafia are desperate, his claiming that red hit annul was more him making an assumption that was valid given that we all think black isn't interested in the game and wouldn't want it to end quickly. My vote stays on you. We'll see in 7 hours. Till then, peace outside | ||
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On March 30 2011 03:53 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So, if we lynch incorrectly, what are the chances of actually salvaging the item game? We have a claimed bus driver, (Might not be as useful now), possibly medics, a KP, a Vest, and that's it? I'm just trying to figure out what we should do to prepare in case the shit hits the fan. We can discuss it when the time comes, no use talking about it only to find out there's no need for plans if Tack flips red. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:17 deconduo wrote: The fact that the votes are 22-2 should be a clear indication that you are wrong, but hey.  Not true at all. This is probably the most WIFOM argument ever. Mafia could have given up and bussed. We did it tons in XXXVII. In fact annul, who was lynched day 1 had like 1/3 (10) of all votes from town and 3 of them were from mafia. In this situation where we're only focusing on 4 people and a few of them have very town reads, it makes sense that the votes would be stacked. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:57 Tackster wrote: If annul was shot by black instead of red we need to consider why. Oh I know - to hit the other red in the item game and not give red an advantage. But yea that's a terrible idea. Why bother trying to stop the only team that can't really kill you. Well I suppose if they can't kill you they'll do their best to out you!! Possibly with some ITEMS!! Here's the question then Tack, why would red/black even shoot at annul? He had the hot potato which blows up when people visit him. If he activates it then it's 100% chance it'll blow up. If not then it's 25% chance. Why would red/black risk it, especially black since they lost a member to D1 lynch? The only reason they would shoot at annul that I can think of is if they thought his bomb was diffused or safe right? | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:57 Tackster wrote: If annul was shot by black instead of red we need to consider why. Oh I know - to hit the other red in the item game and not give red an advantage. But yea that's a terrible idea. Why bother trying to stop the only team that can't really kill you. Well I suppose if they can't kill you they'll do their best to out you!! Possibly with some ITEMS!! Here's the question then Tack, why would red/black even shoot at annul? He had the hot potato which blows up when people visit him. If he activates it then it's 100% chance it'll blow up. If not then it's 25% chance. Why would red/black risk it, especially black since they lost a member to D1 lynch? The only reason they would shoot at annul that I can think of is if they thought his bomb was diffused or safe right? | ||
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I can think of a reason now that makes even more sense. If black though coag had the gun they could mind control him onto annul so red didn't win item game. That means that red can shoot annul like everyone was clamouring for anyway. How can they be sure coag had a gun? That doesn't make sense, it wasn't 100% clear he did. If he didn't then no one dies in the IG as far as they are concerned, they would think red wouldn't shoot annul. And reds wouldn't know that blacks mind controlled coag's stun gun onto annul so they wouldn't feel safe shooting annul anyway. That's faulty logic | ||
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I'm sure everyone was convinced of this when RoL did his fake shot last night and that prompted annul to say that he had a hot potato. Why would red or black shoot into it? I doubt blacks are protected against it Black Third Party- This is the hidden faction. Backed They all are bulletproof so they don’t die so easily They are bulletproof. A hot potato is...a potato/bomb. Not a bullet. I'm pretty sure in the games of mafia I've played with bulletproof roles, they can still be killed by mad hatters. | ||
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On March 30 2011 05:47 Tackster wrote: So people are considering switching their votes and the fact that the evidence is unfounded has been claimed over and over. I've worked hard as hell to try and show my innocence here. What do I have to do to see some action? The vote is 4 hours away... Answer my question please: On March 30 2011 05:36 chaoser wrote: The fact of the matter is, annul had a hot potato and he said it would blow up if people visited him. I'm sure everyone was convinced of this when RoL did his fake shot last night and that prompted annul to say that he had a hot potato. Why would red or black shoot into it? I doubt blacks are protected against it They are bulletproof. A hot potato is...a potato/bomb. Not a bullet. I'm pretty sure in the games of mafia I've played with bulletproof roles, they can still be killed by mad hatters. | ||
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Tack seems to be the best target, but don't forget.....When this item game is over, the mafia player in that game knows he is probably outted and more or less dead anyway. Would he even bother to put up a fight? Does an item game victory guarantee the mafia enough to salvage 1 life? Is tack just allowing himself to sink? I mean yah he's trying to keep himself alive but no one is really going towards his aid anyway. If anything it would give him a reason to not only to fight but also for the mafia team to pretty much abandon him. Sooner or later he will be found out and he will be lynched. Anyone connected to him at all will be put under heavy scrutiny. | ||
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On March 30 2011 06:24 Tackster wrote: By that reasoning mafia would never try and protect their fellows. And given that it is so obvious any mafia that do it would be able to cite that as the reason they are mafia. And yet it isn't happening... The same thing happened when we wanted to decided between me and Jackal and there plenty of people were present! B y that reasoning mafia would never try and protect their fellows No, that's not true. In this case it's assured that the mafia member will be found out. In a regular game the mafia could escape lynching. In the IG, sooner or later, the mafia will be found. | ||
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Stand for something or you will fall for anything. Today's mighty oak is yesterday's nut that held its ground. -Rosa Parks People call people out for sheeping when they vote en masse for something. That's not sheeping. Sheeping is when you don't hold a conviction on something but you act on it. I believe that Tack is red for two reasons: 1) Annul got shot twice while he had a bomb. Why wasn't mafia scared of being blown up? 2) Black wants IG to go on longer so they won't shoot/mess into it. They're already down 3 to 6 when compared to red, why give red more power? If it comes to end game black is fucked. Red having role/alignment checkers would be useful for getting black lynched since that's the only way red has of killing them. Unless people are really convinced that LemonWalrus is mafia, I'm going to keep my vote on Tackster. If I am the deciding vote needed to switch from Tack to LW, I'll do it. | ||
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On March 30 2011 08:45 CubEdIn wrote: OK, TIME FOR THE CUBE!! *cue Eye of the Tiger* EPIC PLAN OF EPICNESS So, if you guys didn't figure it out yet, I'm blue. Yes, blue. Bum can vouch for me if needed, but if you guys didn't see it by now then you suck @ mafia lol. Don't worry though, the reds and blacks already knew this, because I slipped in another part of the game that's not open to the publique! (that's public in a language I just made up) So, here's the deal boys and girls: 1. We lynch Lemon now. 2. If he flips green, we (the blues) get rid of Tackster during the night. YES, WE CAN. (lol) The only issue here is, which townie do we want in the game? We risk either way, but I'd rather Tackster lives, as he seems to be much more active. Chances of this failing: yes, if Coag is mafia. So ask yourselves, is it worth risking to kill Tackster, or is it work risking to kill Lemon. Which was more pro-town? AS I SAID, THEY CAN BOTH DIE EITHER WAY. SCUM is not taking the IG. Unless we have Coag as red. In which case they were taking the IG anyway. Are you sure this is possible? | ||
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##Vote Lemonwalrus Those are LW's posts in the beginning: On March 25 2011 03:09 Lemonwalrus wrote: Sorry about the one-liners from before...it is my first time, I didn't realize that was inappropriate. I promise to make all future posts of mine painfully and needlessly verbose. As far as the bum/not bum vote, I think bum is the best bet for the town for reasons that have already been discussed at length. (the biggest one for me being that I think if he wasn't blue by now one of the real blues would have surely counter-claimed) (If you are a blue and therefore know that bum isn't, please, there is no reason for you not to counter claim) So unless someone gives one hell of a compelling reason for me not to I intend to vote bum. As far as the irc channels goes, well, gather round fellas, because I may be new to mafia, but I am an old hand at irc. I think having an irc for this is a very bad idea. Basically, it is just a more fast paced version of the forum which, on the one hand i know we all think 'well that is good it gives the scum more of a chance to fuck up and reveal themselves when they are under the gun' but the thing is, everyone will fuck up sooner or later. I'm sure if we do an irc channel literally everyone that participates will, sooner or later, say something that convinces someone that they are scum. That is what happens when you are able to share information without thinking hard about it first. (for instance, look at my signature...do you think any of those guys (besides aesop) would have said those things if they had had time to re-read it before clicking a post button?) Also, I see a major component of the irc channel debate will be 'x isn't active in irc, he must be scum' or 'x is too active in irc, he must be scum' basically wifom madness imo, since with imperfect data either choice will put suspicion on a player and, since town outnumbers scum, more suspicion floating around should benefit scum. So I vote no on irc and yes on bum, and the above are my reasons. On March 25 2011 03:17 Lemonwalrus wrote: wtf the more i post the more i get crap for not posting, what do you guys want from me  (((((Also I hadn't even thought of the impersonating people on irc thing that GMarshal brought up in his post. That is yet another convolution that irc will bring to the process. (although if we caught someone impersonating it would make it pretty obvious they were scum...so a potential for reward if a scum were to be so bold as to impersonate someone) I think the real problem with the irc is that there is such a thing as too much information when you are trying to make a decision. If we have pages and pages of posts and pages and pages of irc logs to go by, 2 sides could make bulletproof arguments for one person being scum/not scum, and it could be almost impossible to tell who was right with any sort of objectivity. Also....picking through irc logs sounds really tedious. I know that has no importance in the function of the game, but I just feel it will be less fun with a mountain of irc logs...and I kinda want to have fun. These are his posts now: On March 28 2011 12:07 Lemonwalrus wrote: There there jackal, there there. Once town wins the IG you can play with the bandages, I promise. On March 28 2011 09:48 Lemonwalrus wrote: Items in the item game were RNGed, you can not make any inferences into alignment based on what item someone has. On March 28 2011 15:19 Lemonwalrus wrote: Also since this thread loves to jump on people for not posting a lot just letting you all know I've got an exam in 16 hours and I plan to spend every minute between now and then either sleeping or studying. I might still post here and there though. Happy scum-hunting. On March 29 2011 11:39 Lemonwalrus wrote: My last post was 21 pages ago, in much, much simpler times. I've read the thread from then so far but not as thoroughly as I would have liked to so I'm gonna go back and try to piece things together. In the mean time, if anyone (specifically bumatlarge) has any questions for me to answer go ahead and post them and I'll try to help you out. I'm switching my vote to him. Please switch with me guys. Look at his posting style change completely. I know I said take a stand, but admitting maybe you made a mistake is just as important. | ||
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Why would you side with someone that isn't even defending himself? On January 10 2011 11:52 Ace wrote: Sometimes it's just better to think of a simple answer. You have no idea what the Mafia know and don't know their motives. Hence it's just a simple decision on who is more believable here. Stop WIFOMing yourself. This was a really simple decision but you got caught up in stuff that really made no sense. Trying to find out who is the other Scum before getting on with the current lynch was a bad idea. Lemon didn't come in at all today to either help push for Tack's lynch nor did he say anything about the various small accusations against him. | ||
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On March 30 2011 10:57 Insanious wrote: eii tied it and i cant have us tie tonight, sorry tack LOOK AT THIS SHIT!! | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:03 Insanious wrote: well apparently im retarded... im not used to ties = first one tied dies... I'm used to... ties = no one dies, or a lot of people die, Bullshit | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:04 Coagulation wrote: tack is scum stop flipping out nah, he ain't. Look at the people voting for him. LOOK AT THEM! | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:05 Jackal58 wrote: It doesn't matter if Tack is green or red. All that matters is that town wins the IG. This is why town gets ass raped by scum all the time. You people are to goddamned afraid of being wrong to do anything. Too bad I'll be right. Tack is probs green with the way things went down last minute | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:09 CubEdIn wrote: @ Coag & Jackal: no matter who's red, you HAVE to admit this was way better than the standard boring 22-2 lynch. :D Well at least we got info....scum would have been better | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:17 Insanious wrote: Um... I think this means that the +vote was one from a scum. Black or Red = important. If its from Red, it means jackal is scum... just saying. Fuck off dickwad, the hidden vote was cause of me ![[image loading]](http://images.crispygamer.com/public/feature-1744/katamari-king-arrow.jpg){kind=icon} The rumors of the return of the KING have permeated across the land... And they are true! For I am the KING! I have proof in this PM from GMarshal, my trusted right hand man. From: GMarshal [ 1024 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ] Subject: MY LIFE FOR THE KING Date: 3/27/11 14:53 So, I thought it would be a good idea to leave you a nice little breadcrumb so you can claim if I die. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200702¤tpage=90#1788 is the post, if you take the first letter of each players name it says IAMBG followed by CA KIM your name is unbolded pointing to you and you are the only player with CA in that order in your name in the game currently, KIM actually spells out KIMG when you consider that I say "I'm coming for you lurkers, tremble in fear!", the I refers to GMarshal, me which leads to the word KIMG, no players have the letter N as the first letter in their names unfortunately. Anyway, this is only in the case that I die, in which case you are going to need the medic protects. FOR THE KING! GMarshal PS. the timestamps also match pretty closely so use that to your benefit (and if the town is seeing this then GL Town, get those scummy bastards for me) Luckily, my left hand man is still with me. I would like it if somehow I could be connected to the Blue Police Force's circle for I have important information for them due to some of my skills. DT check me if you want but I will lead town to victory! | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:35 CubEdIn wrote: Wait what? You couldn't wait 'till morning? Now we gotta protect you too? Don't need to protect me, I still protection | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:42 Jackal58 wrote: If some goddamned bus driver hadn't try to be hero we wouldn't fucking be here. Not to mention it was that same bus driver not only protected LW from a hit by bussing him to Bum but also by "confirming" him cause of breadcrumbs. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:35 CubEdIn wrote: Wait what? You couldn't wait 'till morning? Now we gotta protect you too? =] I just wanted to get a PM line if possible. That's all. Needed to do it at night. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:03 Lemonwalrus wrote: Coag why aren't you showing the PMs that I was responding to when I sent those? I'm gonna dump all my PMs later. Doesn't matter though I'm not surviving the night. We lost the item game when we lynched tack, I sheeped to jackal and coag's plan all along and didn't realize it was a scum plan until now. We have 2 dead townies to show for their plan, and somehow I'm still the main suspect. You guys are getting played by either jackal or coag (at this point I can't tell which one). I fell for it too, but I'm a newbie. What is your excuse? Lol. I'm going to make you roll a fucking ball around till it's big enough to make a star and then just hammer it to nothingness. And laugh at you. And then hammer you into liquid. And drink you. I'll be drunk too. Go die SCUM ![[image loading]](http://www.29-95.com/files/images/tumblr_l5dg14zMdb1qa8q3yo1_500.jpg) | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:12 Coagulation wrote: to be honest im 50 50 on if its you or jackal. fuck if i know It's obviously Lemon Walrus. Look at his posts. He posts long ass motherfucking posts when it's on nothing like bum's mayor vote and then one-liners when he needs to actually take a stance on something. Now he's come back and blames the both of you for "tricking him" when his PMs are scummy as fuck. All of them are like NO! WHAT ARE YO DOING! or like nah chill, we got him. He's 100% sure Tack is Scum. Why? Cause he knows Tack isn't. Mafia play with confidence when trying to get someone lynched. Town wavers. Even Foolishness or Bum wavers. Mafia will usually never waver. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:21 Lemonwalrus wrote: I was never sure Tack was anything, jackal/coag were the sure ones. Read the thread. I thought I smashed you into nothingness. Nothingness doesn't talk and doesn't get a say in it's future. | ||
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On March 30 2011 13:51 BrownBear wrote: Best post ever? But in all seriousness. Since I obviously missed, it, can Coag or Jackal please tell me how they've confirmed each other to be town? I can't seem to find the post where they did in 161 pages of rage/spam. They didn't confirm, it was a lie to get their plan to go forward. A gambit if you will. Their play though, compared to LW's has been very town. | ||
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On March 26 2011 16:56 Eiii wrote: Mostly just checking in here, but I really don't like the tackster lynch for now. I had him as a pretty green read, and I CANNOT BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T CALL JACKAL OUT ON THIS I thought this was some kind of throwaway joke reply at first but the he started backing it up. Originally I was going to post another selection of quotes from him that I was gonna say made me question his previously-green status in my mind, but then I read over them and realized I was an idiot and missed the point of the posts entirely. I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town, but that doesn't mean we sheep after him all the time. If anyone in the item game should be lynched I think it should be darm, lemon and tack need more investigation. Then... On March 27 2011 17:14 Eiii wrote: I'm just catching up now but want to point out what I meant was lost here-- I meant DESPITE the fact that I felt (and probably others felt) jackal was town we shouldn't just go along with his plans when he doesn't offer anything to back them up, which he was doing quite a bit at the time. Obviously this pretty much goes without saying all the time but I wanted to show support for jackal without agreeing with his seemingly-arbitrary 'x is scum' statements. But... On March 29 2011 17:57 Eiii wrote: It's fucking impossible to stay active when I check in the afternoon and there's twenty more pages for me to read. I feel like just about all the bases have been covered on what happened last night, and I'm gonna ##vote trackster for now. It doesn't get counted but he arrives mere minutes before the end of day to revote... On March 30 2011 10:54 Eiii wrote: what ##Vote: Tackster Explain yourself Eiii. You went from against Jackal's arbitrary statements yet follows it at the end. What gives? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=200702¤tpage=138#2750 MZ does a post-by-post here | ||
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As of now, FoS Eiii, Insanious, Lemonwalrus, Beneather, Brownbear and orgolove | ||
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Tackster BrownBear Coagulation Jackal58 kevconsim Lemonwalrus Meapak_Ziphh Mr. Wiggles orgolove RebirthOfLeGenD tnkted Amber[LighT] GGQ Beneather Eiii Insanious Lemonwalrus iGrok deconduo Tackster ilovejonn CubEdIn bumatlarge Rean chaoser OriginalName Kavdragon Lanaia Kenpachi I requested that people vote for LW at 9:00 PM EST, 1 hour before lynch Here are the few that did: On March 30 2011 10:29 Kenpachi wrote: ##unvote Tackster ##vote LemonWalrus On March 30 2011 10:25 Lanaia wrote: ##Unvote Tackster ##vote LemonWalrus On March 30 2011 10:18 Kavdragon wrote: ##Unvote Kenpachi ##Vote Lemonwalrus On March 30 2011 10:10 OriginalName wrote: ##Unvote Tackster ##Vote LemonWalrus I don't think mafia would dare change their votes at that point. 6 votes were already on LW, any more off Tack and onto LW might have snowballed. So if LW flips red, these people have earned tons of green points in my book | ||
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Decon kiss my ass. If tackster wasn't your room mate you wouldn't give two shits. Dumb and dumber indeed Mr I'll bus my entire Mafia team cause they think I'm town. You need to stop making bullshit statements... | ||
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On March 31 2011 06:10 Coagulation wrote: jackal isnt playing anymore heh | ||
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On March 31 2011 06:15 Coagulation wrote: i cant say i blame him you guys are fucking bad with personal attacks. Im more or less done with mafia also. he's the one that personally attacked decduo after the lynch.... | ||
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On March 31 2011 06:17 Coagulation wrote: after being harassed for 2 days. And Tackster wasn't? | ||
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On March 31 2011 03:44 Kavdragon wrote: Dude, settle down. You've already received a ban for this type of behavior, and we don't need modkills this game, regardless of the bots. If you were really sorry about that incident, then start looking at this game. Regardless of Decon's alignment, there's no reason dive into this kind of attitude. If you think he's scum, then build an argument, don't start a fist fight. That looks pretty personal and mean spirited | ||
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So do you think Jackal is mafia or Lemon? As you put it, there's no way a first time player deceived 3 mafia vets | ||
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On March 31 2011 06:33 Coagulation wrote: Attack the reasoning Not the player. who the fuck are you anyway? How can you say you didn't personally attack someone and then post something like this...what does him having to be anyone affect anything? Seriously... | ||
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On March 31 2011 06:49 Coagulation wrote: thats fantastic when we are talking about jackal and you post shit i said like it applies to him And cause i dont fucking like him since he started throwing insults at me. Two wrongs don't make a right. Whatever, I'm done with this. Follow Bum's plan and we'll be fine | ||
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On March 31 2011 06:55 Tackster wrote: [ghostly voice] Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind... Learn from your mistaaaaaaakkkkeeesssss............ [/ghostly voice] You never PMed me back! After I went out of my way to do it after you got lynched too! | ||
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On March 31 2011 08:38 CubEdIn wrote: You're forgetting that it's because of the night 1 switch that we didn't have info on Lemon, which would have resulted in a 100% lynch. Don't be quick to dismiss him as being scum. If you were scum and you had BD, it makes perfect sense to keep your player out of the IG at night, no? And who better to switch him with than the only confirmed blue, just in case the bodyguards die. Exactly. You going to get lynched tnkted if you don't do your non-MC able bus plan | ||
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bottom line is i got it done and won the item game. Actually you would have lost the IG but that's neither here nor there. Post game I guess | ||
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On April 05 2011 10:30 Coagulation wrote: kings can be evil.. lol | ||
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On April 05 2011 10:41 CubEdIn wrote: lol @ chaoser's complicated gimmiks. I'll lol so much if assassin takes out lanaia and wins the game tonight. Son, GM and I got back up plans after back up plans. Even when we dead, we help town win yo yo. Scum can't keep us down! | ||
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On April 06 2011 08:45 Lemonwalrus wrote: Don't go confirming any of them "100% townie" on the first day again, ok?  Be sure to pack your trusty gun and some bandages! Oh and be sure to feed yourself! Kids grow up so quick ;_; | ||
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On April 08 2011 09:37 SgtSquiglz wrote: Been waiting for this ban. Dude made a bad copy of my name!! You guys are everywhere... | ||
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MVP for his Own Team Award: Kavdragon From calling my bluff to dodging a lynch that should have been 100%, you pretty much raped town two ways to Sunday. Best Comeback From Being Down in The Hole Award: Kavdragon From going to be 100% lynched and dropping lies and messing up everywhere, including in ANOTHER THREAD (XXXVIII, basically quitting cause you knew town 100% thought you were black), to bussing your own teammate so that you would have another shot at King and earning your knife back, all I can say is, G fucking G. Scumhunter Expert Award: tnkted My personal list of suspects: Mafia 1. RoL/Pandain 2. OriginalName 3. Orgolove (self-confirmed) 4. Amber[LighT] Black 1. Kavdragon 2. kevconsim 3. Mr. Wiggles Good job on not only getting all the scum right, but also getting most of their alignments right too. Too bad you didn't believe in yourself and vote off Kavdragon when it was needed. Sorry that you Gave up your Life in Vain Sadface Award: Kenpachi I'm sorry that you suicided into a black, didn't kill him, only to turn around and see town think he's not black. It was fun watching you rage in IRC. You Tried Hard Rookie! Award: Tackster You played great for a rookie with good posts and good reasoning! Too bad it was not enough to stand up to the wrath of Jackal and Coag. Wasted Cool Role Award:Beneather Seriously? That was a cool role dude. Y U INACTIVE!? Most Forgetful/Fail Blue Ever Award: bumatlarge For not only not moving your vote onto LemonWalrus on Day 2 but also forgetting to shoot out your RPGs TWICE, letting the blacks get them back and then proceed to kill half of town, facepalm Winner of the "I Did It For the LULZ" Award: LSB From making a stacked black team that didn't need to buy anything in the Black Market cause most of the things were to give bulletproof-ness, to telling the red team that their plan would work and then changing the ruling last minutes so that they would get dicked, to implementing the Arena half way into the game only to kill off everyone in it, and for finally not telling town that Black could still use RPGs, GG. Just. GG. You win the game. | ||
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On April 08 2011 11:37 Kavdragon wrote: I won't question it. Also, Chaoser, you have no idea how much wifom we went through before finally decideing to kill you. You put up a good fight, and didn't even know it. I figured as much =D. My down fall was iGrok. His return of the king+rook+my telling him to not spam up the thread must have seemed like bodyguard telling king to shut up huh? | ||
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On April 08 2011 12:59 Lemonwalrus wrote: Ok, I know I said I owe you a beer for defending me in the thread, now let's just make it 2 beers and call it even. K? Edit: Also you made my quote sig of shame and hilarity. Look. ----------------------------------------V That sig is sooo easy to take out of context lol | ||
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Get flamewheel to ask an art staff to do it as a favor lol | ||
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lolol agree | ||
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