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I gotta sit out a game. | ||
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/in Sitting out death factory. | ||
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On March 16 2011 09:53 Fishball wrote: Then LSB needs to be banned from the universe. We tried that once. He pulled a bait and switch on us and we ended up lynching the pope. It was an awkward moment in Vatican City. | ||
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On March 18 2011 12:51 annul wrote: i think one of these smurfs must be pandain, since he has to know people are gonna insta him It's obviously LemonWalrus. Pandain loves pandas. Pandas eat bamboo. Bamboo is a grass. Lemon is a fruit. Pandas live in China and walrii are aquatic arctic creatures. The connections are obscure and disconnected. Lynch him!!!!! | ||
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On March 21 2011 00:58 LSB Banking wrote: /in as Bot You should be in as ATM | ||
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If not can we lynch the bot? | ||
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On March 23 2011 23:39 kitaman27 wrote: Mind waiting until night zero to start game relevant discussion? Some people *cough LSB cough* like to present scummy plans pre-game and then proclaim their innocence once alignment pm's go out. Just wanted to be the first. | ||
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As mayor the only promise I make is to kill scum with extreme efficiency and prejudice. Unless of course I'm scum. Then I promise to kill townies with extreme efficiency and prejudice. Don't you wish all your politicians were this brutally honest? | ||
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On March 24 2011 02:46 GMarshal wrote: Well I too will run for mayor, in exchange I promise to accidentally defend scum, side with the wrong people on arguments and make ridiculous and insane plans (really though, wait till you see GMarshals Utterly Insane Plan, night 0). I'll lead us to draw where everyone dies. We won't win but it will be very amusing. Vote GM! Dunno how to top that plan man. | ||
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On March 24 2011 05:42 ilovejonn wrote: Just making sure no one makes more because its already making the thread pretty long lol. Worked out well for town in XXXVI. Kav got his name out before roles were assigned and we elected a townie as mayor. Was no scum bias at the time. | ||
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On March 24 2011 09:53 annul wrote: you're a sheep-like little townie falling for my trap aren't you? <3 Getting lynched on day 1 isn't much of a trap man. | ||
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On March 24 2011 10:42 GGQ wrote: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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I knew better. But I clicked it anyways. Bastard. | ||
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If I am mayor I will not hold an election for 1st lynch. I will listen to all inputs and arguments but ultimately I will lynch who I believe to be scum. A mayor that goes with a vote is a scum candidate. Scum knows day 1 is a crap shoot. Scum knows they can manipulate a vote to town. Vote me for mayor. I'm town. I'm down. Is there going to be a separate voting thread for? | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:11 GMarshal wrote: Right, like presenting arguments for lynching someone is also scummy, its evident that we should just take your word for it. If you want to be mayor give me 3 good reasons, why are you valuable enough to essentialy get a free pass to the endgame? I don't defend scum. I don't get every vote wrong. I don't like banana puppies. Only a mafia mayor will endorse a day 1 lynch. Day 1 is a crapshoot. Day 1 is controlled by scum. A mayor that abdicates his power of lynch on day 1 to a vote is a scum mayor. He knows town can't find his ass with both hands on day 1. He knows scum is strongest on day 1 He knows a vote will be wrong. A vote for me is a vote for town. I'm not promising you guys a bandwagon vote. I'm promising you guys I will vote for who I think is scum. I also promise I can listen to all arguments for and against everybody and will accept or reject what I believe to be right or wrong. A mayor that promises to lynch according to votes is scum. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:21 Jackal58 wrote: I don't defend scum. I don't get every vote wrong. I don't like banana puppies. Only a mafia mayor will endorse a day 1 lynch. Day 1 is a crapshoot. Day 1 is controlled by scum. A mayor that abdicates his power of lynch on day 1 to a vote is a scum mayor. He knows town can't find his ass with both hands on day 1. He knows scum is strongest on day 1 He knows a vote will be wrong. A vote for me is a vote for town. I'm not promising you guys a bandwagon vote. I'm promising you guys I will vote for who I think is scum. I also promise I can listen to all arguments for and against everybody and will accept or reject what I believe to be right or wrong. A mayor that promises to lynch according to votes is scum. Ebwop That should read "Only a mafia mayor will endorse a day 1 lynch by vote" | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:24 Coagulation wrote: you dont defend scum cause you never defend anyone. I defended the fuck out of you and LSB. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:24 GMarshal wrote: Well, not counting anything else, theres the fact that I will be doing constant, active analysis, weather sucessful or unsucessful remains to be seen, but I'll be constantly stirring the hornets nest to keep scum from lurking, obviously if I'm dead then thats going to put a hamper in my lynch all lurkers plan. I'd actualy be more than happy to have a better scumhunter in this position, if I were sure he was town, at the moment the only person I can know with any certanty is town is my, so I'd rather deny the scum or third party the ability to require two townies to DIE before they can be night killed Mayor is much more susceptible to lynching than night kills. Only scum would bring up being night killed. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:32 tnkted wrote: You're awful quick to accuse me of being scum based on... what exactly? I'm just a townie, minding my own business. And all three of your reasons are not good reasons. They are fake reasons/assertions. The third one is a joke. The first two are assertions which you have certainly not demonstrated. To me, at least. I don't know if you have a history in this game, but unless you are the van helsing of scum hunting I don't believe you have the cajones to talk like that. I'm not saying you're scum, just that you aren't playing like a town at the moment. If you think there is something wrong with my plan, explain what that is and I will happily step down. Now, just so that nobody thinks i'm not really running, here are my three reasons: 1. I'm a noobie. This means that i am absolutely not a threat to anyone, and am therefore a prime target for early mafia kills. I could use the human shields! 2. I'm smart. I'm a psych minor in college atm, and while that doesn't exactly make me Freud it does give me a little bit of an edge over your average TLer with an engineering degree. 3. I don't forget easily. I don't forget what people have said in the past which will come in handy in late game situations. If I was one of the last few guys left I would dedicate myself to a indepth study of every remaining player, and would then write up an exhaustive analysis on their play. So... that's my platform I guess. Mayor seems like a scary, important job, but I'm willing to step up and do it! The third one was a joke. 1 point to you for recognizing humor. You are a noob. Easily manipulated noob. You think you're smart. The rest of us shall await the juries verdict. How the fuck can you forget. It's all sitting there in black and white. Oh and us engineers that have our degrees laugh at you psych majors and your inability to get 4 more pitchers of beer out of the keg. If you are town and you want to win vote for me. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:36 GMarshal wrote: Are you forgeting the fact that there are TWO factions in play, scum is going to be gunning for the third party and the third party is going to be gunning for scum because enemy night kills cannot be as easaly manipulated as town lynches can, this is why scum is going to be 100% guaranteed to be gunning for the mayorship, as is the third party, if the scum team can grab the mayorship they can be slightly less worried about the third party and if the third party grabs it they can be slightly less worried about mafia. That means they have more freedom to go after troublesome townies. Did I honestly need to explain that? Also the free day 1 lynch is a delicious treat for either group No sir not at all. But scum is the one faction that will be organized. I intend to disorganize them. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:40 tnkted wrote: Well, forgive my inexperience, but doesn't the very fact that the vets are such juicy targets make killing them seem very suspicious? If you have a vet thats doing some dangerous theorizing, wouldn't killing him be exactly the wrong thing to do as mafia? it would validate his theory. Instead, the smart move for that mafia would be to kill a noob or some other target. That's called wifom Mr Psych major. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:42 GMarshal wrote: Wait, what? I'm assuming that the third party all work together like a mini scum team, so why would they not be organized? Did I miss something? or do you know something I dont? I may have made the exact opposite assumption you did. If the black team is sk types then I don't see them cooperating. If the black team is a second mafia family you are correct. I don't know which they are. I assumed sk types. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:45 tnkted wrote: Minor, actually. I'm an English major, going to law school. Which, since you seem to be so interested in generalizing people negatively, means i get laid waaaaaay more often then you. and... you're right about wifom, i just googled it. My bad. Pahlease bitch. I'm married. No need to get personal. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:48 GMarshal wrote: Well the fact that there are four of them with a single KP among the four suggests they are a team (if is one kp each we are already in HUGE trouble) . What worries me is that we don't know their win condition, so we have to take them out asap because of the possibility that they win when scum is dead even if most of the town is still standing. All entirely possible. All the more reason to keep the mayors day 1 lynch independent. You know as well as I do that day 1 is at best a crap shoot for town. Promising to vote by majority rule eliminates the mayors strongest attribute - day 1 independence. Might as well not have a mayor. | ||
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On March 24 2011 11:51 chaoser wrote: Well generally day 1/2 the vets haven't really collected enough data and maybe they'll push someone who's town. Just cause they're vet doesn't mean they're 100% right. It's easy to get out from a vet's analysis if it's early, but it's much harder if it's later on since more things will have happened for them to make a more robust argument. I dunno, I usually never see newbies get killed early on, it's either mid tier players, high tier players, or blue snipes. @Jackal You like to tunnel...A LOT. Because of that you almost lost town the game in a recent mafia cause you pushed for pandain's lynch so hard that if there wasn't a vigi, mafia would have 100% won. I don't know if I trust you as mayor deciding our first lynch as well as a figurehead of sorts for town. While town voting day 1 is a crap shoot, leaving it in your hands might not necessarily be any better. This is because I noticed you didn't say you would say who you were going to lynch first to town before lynching. At least if it comes down to a town vote everyone can see where the lynch is going. If you just lynch without telling anyone, that'd be very bad. Will you be telegraphing your lynch target first or will you just be shooting the guy? I don't really care for cowboy mayors. I've ben accused of tunneling and I've been called scum for not tunneling. Ya I admit that the Pandain incident was a bad move on my part but he also pushed a lynch that made no sense at the time. So I was convinced in my own mind he was scum. I mean why would town do that? Ya I was wrong. I could have done the same against GM in XXXVII but I didn't. I learned from my previous mistake. Of course I will listen to towns input and I will share my thoughts on who I would like to lynch first I will ask for feed back. That doesn't mean I'll change my mind but there won't be any surprises. | ||
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On March 24 2011 12:08 tnkted wrote: Well, that would be a fairly simple thing to fake, wouldn't it. That's not a confirm, its a shred of evidence. We are 1 hour into the game. I can't prove jack shit. Nobody can. Unless somebody wants to post their alignment post from LSB we are all in the same boat. I believe that I will make an excellent choice for mayor. I am town. I know I'm green. I can't prove that. You can't prove that. That's why we play the game. The only thing I can say to townies is trust me. And "trust" is the last thing any townie can afford to do. So why vote for me? Because I love to kill scum. I will put all of my efforts into town winning. Vote for me. Let's kill scum of all color variations. | ||
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On March 24 2011 12:19 bumatlarge wrote: And what if you are having a good game as scum? Then you will fucking rape the opposition? I'm not liking the my odds If annul is scum he'll be lynched by the end of day 2. That's his MO | ||
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On March 24 2011 18:41 deconduo wrote: I don't see any reason not to vote for bum tbh. I had that plan in mind myself too, but I wanted to wait until I got my alignment first to make sure I was town. If he is not blue, then: -He's taking a huuuuge risk -Why hasn't a blue cc'd Kav's argument is pretty meh also. Why not elect a confirmed town mayor, and he can listen to all the vet's scumhunting. Its not like bumatlarge is bad either,,, If we elect a scum veteran player as mayor, then it will be 200x harder for us to lynch him. He will be able to wriggle out of most cases against him. A confirmed town that can take advice from all the vets in the game is better than an unconfirmed vet. What? Semi-claim blue? You guys have to ask yourselves a question. Would any other blues come forward to confirm bum? No they wouldn't. Not until much later in the game. But a bunch of bullet proof black aligned players would very much try to make a blue claim. Their best bet to win is getting one as mayor. They can only lose if we lynch them. I'm not buying bum's story. I'm not buying it one bit. I'm also loooking really hard at those of you that are saying he's blue and will get your vote for mayor. Keep your eyes on them guys. Our black team may have just reared its ugly head. | ||
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On March 24 2011 19:16 deconduo wrote: In fact, the only way scum can shut down his campaign without CCing is to throw as much suspicion as possible on him, kind of like what you are doing now. Making his voters feel uneasy about voting for him is scum tactics 101. FOS Jackal Please. Save it. Their are 4 blues listed in the OP. One of them "accidentally" lets it slip? So another comes out to confirm him? And now scum has half of the blues on the table? C'mon. It's a bs claim. It's damn near foolproof. No blue with a half a brain is going to confirm him. | ||
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On March 24 2011 20:16 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah Jackal wtf? One blue to claim will be enough to throw crap on bum and people who support him. Sure, it might lead to lynching the blue or having him killed, but it will be a 1-1 trade with the black team (or reds, w/e) Think about it, Blacks are bullet-proof, they are only scared of being lynched. And you're saying that their plan is to stick their heads out and draw attention to themselves? Possibly putting themselves in a position to be lynched day one? Pleezee. If another blue wants to confirm his alignment I'm all ears. If another blue wants to burst his bubble I'm all ears. Either way it's lose/lose for town. We lose bum if he's blue. We lose another blue if he's not. Or we lose 2 if another blue confirms him. How is that good for town???? It's not. How is that good for black???? You already answered that. | ||
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On March 24 2011 21:17 deconduo wrote: Don't you get it? A blue doesn't need to claim to confirm him unless a mafia ccs. Mafia cc = 2 blues exposed for a mafia lynch day one. In that case, one of the blues will be mayor and as such unkillable, and we can simply put a medic on the second one. GG If bum IS mafia, then a blue should absolutely 100% cc right now. Until that happens, anyone giving a bullshit reason for not voting bum as mayor should be at the top of the lynch list. Fine. He's blue. I don't buy it. | ||
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On March 24 2011 22:07 deconduo wrote: If he's blue: Vote for him If he's not: There will be a cc Whats not to get? We hope if he's black there will be a cc. 4 blues and a bunch of noobs in the game. I'm not holding my breath. Anyways here is a 1 in 3 chance of hitting a red or a black: 1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus I'm green. I suspect Coag is as well. So going on that we have a 50/50 shot at a red and a black between darm, annul, Tackster and LW. Tackster and Lemon I don't know. So I don't know what to expect out of their play. I haven't seen darm post yet. Is annul red again? Wouldn't put it past LSB to do so. Or maybe he changed it up and made him black. I would recommend confining our day 1 lynch to somebody on this list. | ||
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On March 24 2011 22:52 CubEdIn wrote: @ Jackal: be reasonable man. It's always been a bad idea for scum to claim something first. You can't claim DT or getting shot when there's just 1 dt or 1 shot in the game, because you will be faced with counter-claims. So far, there's just one claim of blue. There are two scenarios: a) All REAL blues are asleep and will counter-claim later on. b) He is blue and the three other blue are keeping their mouth shut as they should. IF there's gonna be a counter claim, I assume there will be at least one more person supporting EITHER of them. So, whoever is lying (be it mafia or blacks), they will have to stick out at least TWO people (which can be up to four if we go there), in order to get an election. Would you risk that as scum/3rd party just for the mayor role? No. You don't put 2 people on the line on day one for no reason. And if we figure out who's lying (person with least supporters?), then one of them gets mayor'd, and the rest get medic protected or who knows. The point is, in the end, it's not a smart move for EITHER Black or Red to sacrifice people 1:1 (even if they get blues), because they're also fighting each other. So, unless you get counter-claims for blues, you can 99% sure assume that bum is town. If cops saw this but decided not to counter-claim, then either they have a good reason for it, OR they're being dumb. You seem to think that they are dumb, for some reason. I'm over it Cub. It was just to damn convenient looking. | ||
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On March 24 2011 23:36 chaoser wrote: I'll vote for bum, if he gets counter claimed then I'll stay in the race. Thanks for basically copying and restating my idea...this + being against bum's run makes me FoS you. If you said it I missed it. The only one I saw was Meapak's. | ||
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On March 24 2011 23:56 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: XXXVI... What? It's a mind fuck! Mind fuckery! I think I lived fairly long in that game too using the same strategy. The mafia finally decided to hit me while a vigilante did as well when I was a Vet. So my lights went out The only blue roles listed are the 4 cop roles. I have no idea what powers LSB intends to pass out to all the townies so I don't know if medics will be included in the list but they aren't going to be the traditional "blue" role. I and the other 5 in the item game are not going to receive any additional powers according to the OP but apparently will receive some type of item that we can bring to the main game if we get rid of the opposing factions. That's the reason I want the first lynch list to be from the 6 in the item game. Town wants those items. | ||
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On March 25 2011 00:27 chaoser wrote: Then I wouldn't want you as a mayor at all. It's been posted/quoted a good 4-5 times. For mayor to miss something like that doesn't bode well for the future. I'm at work. Pardon me. Voting for somebody that can't keep their alignment to themselves for 4 hours bodes exceptionally well doesn't it? | ||
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My vote will go to Kav. | ||
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On March 25 2011 01:51 chaoser wrote: BTW guys, one really important thing to remember is that this IS insane mafia. Mafia might have some sort of recruiting power that can be stopped by protects or something which is why LSB said it's not in our best interest to claim most of the time. So let's be a bit more cautious with any plans for claiming in the future. While bum's claim was unavoidable after he slipped and I will vote for him, lets not follow in his example and claim all over. So you support a mayor that can't post without inadvertently saying stuff he probably shouldn't? He got nked in XXXVI on night 1 because he let his role slip in a pm circle. Seems to be an ongoing issue with him. | ||
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On March 25 2011 02:07 chaoser wrote: Why not? real time pressure on people would be awesome. It's an added feature and it's recorded so why would it be bad? Was that to me? | ||
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Doesn't matter to me. I'll not use it. That is what the thread is for. | ||
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On March 25 2011 02:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Ok so Chaoser withdrew but that's fine because the Bum campaign has cleared up a lot of the concerns I had namely how it's impossible to win the claim trade. Bum is probably our best bet for all the reasons people have already stated so I wont parrot them off. One thing that is worrying me right now is Jackal. I had previously pegged him as probably town with Coag just making a huge scum slip by saying that Jackal was confirmed. However with his sudden opposition to Bum I'm getting more suspicious of him. At this point there really isn't a reason not to vote for Bum unless you're not town allied and don't want a confirmed mayor. I'd also like to point out that not only is Jackal's "focus on the item game" plan was originally Chaoser's, I just qouted it and reiterated it when I decided to vote for him. I saw that a little while ago. Didn't mean to give credit where credit isn't due. I'm only opposed to Bum because it is just too damned convenient. I don't put much faith in oopsy look what I did. | ||
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On March 25 2011 03:17 Lemonwalrus wrote: wtf the more i post the more i get crap for not posting, what do you guys want from me ((((( Also I hadn't even thought of the impersonating people on irc thing that GMarshal brought up in his post. That is yet another convolution that irc will bring to the process. (although if we caught someone impersonating it would make it pretty obvious they were scum...so a potential for reward if a scum were to be so bold as to impersonate someone) I think the real problem with the irc is that there is such a thing as too much information when you are trying to make a decision. If we have pages and pages of posts and pages and pages of irc logs to go by, 2 sides could make bulletproof arguments for one person being scum/not scum, and it could be almost impossible to tell who was right with any sort of objectivity. Also....picking through irc logs sounds really tedious. I know that has no importance in the function of the game, but I just feel it will be less fun with a mountain of irc logs...and I kinda want to have fun. Don't sweat it. People want to lynch me for not tunneling others. | ||
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On March 25 2011 04:25 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: hey I have some papers to write so I'm going to be afk for a while. Don't lose sight of these things when I'm gone. 1) Bum is almost certainly confirmed blue at this point so he'd be a great mayor 2) Watch the people from the item game, there's gonna be anti town players in there and if we can isolate and kill them that'll be a boon for the town. 3) Watch Coag and Jackal, not liking either of them atm because of Coag's confirm on Jackal and Jackal's sudden opposition to Bum. 4) Kav and GM are probably town, read previous games they were in and this is how they acted when town. Also I haven't really seen anything overtly scummy out of them yet. 5) Start pressuring lurkers! There are a lot of people with low to no posts and we should take a look at them. In perticular I'd like Eiii, Amber[LighT], Beneather, orgolove, and OriginalName to post some and tell us what they're thinking. I have no idea why Coag suddenly decided I was town. You'd have to ask him that. I know I don't trust anybodies alignment atm no matter how blue they say they are. My opposition to Bum was from waking up at 5 and reading the thread and seeing Hai Gaiz I'm Blue!!!! My initial reaction was bullshit. I posted my initial reaction. That post said bullshit. 8 hours later and my reaction has moved from bullshit to bull. I don't trust him. I have no reason to trust him. I don't know who is on the blue team. So I have no inherent trust in nameless faces. The man just got killed by letting his role slip in a PM circle in XXXVII. Night 1 boom he's gone. And he does it again a week later??? Sorry. I'm not buying what he's selling. I might be wrong but on night 0 I'm going to lean towards the side that my gut reaction had. That reaction was bullshit. If that makes me scummy in your eyes I'm sure you'll get over it. | ||
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On March 25 2011 04:52 chaoser wrote: I don't know if you have a bad memory or something but bum wasn't even in the game (XXXVII) till late. He replaced ICanFlyLow like on Day 2 or Day 3. He also flipped green. I don't think anyone on my team was in a PM circle with him in that game so he didn't let his role PM slip. Go check on that game if you want but he's clearly marked dead Night 3. Well damn me. I got my beneathers and bums crossed. | ||
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On March 25 2011 05:40 CubEdIn wrote: @ annul: if you think for one second that a team of black would give up ALL 4 members in order to out 4 blues (and possibly kill 1), and completely throw away their chances of winning, during which they give red a significant advantage, then you're out of your mind. They have different winning conditions (reds and blacks), so the only teams that would want to work together is greens and blues. I like that Tackster is being methodical about this, but I will say it right now, if there are no counter-claims, I'll be highly suspicious of anyone who keeps claiming that picking bum is a bad idea. In fact, it's such a GOOD idea I was actually going over the rules a few times to make sure there's no slip from the mod that would allow a confirmed townie to get picked as mayor. While I do admit that the blue team MIGHT be a bunch of afk-ers or too dumb to counter-claim (sorry, but it's true), you all must accept that that's a very small possibility. I'm going to sit on my vote until role PMs are sent out. I did Bum a disservice confusing him with play from XXXVII that wasn't his. But I'm still concerned about voting a mayor that let his alignment slip that easily. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:08 annul wrote: but since i am green and not red nor black, there isn't this problem <3 Everybody is green til they flip. Your paranoia of black leads me to believe you are red. That would leave darm as black. LSB making you scum. That's deliciously hilarious. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:39 annul wrote: holy fucking shit will ANYONE, a single person, in the entire game, challenge my MATHEMATICAL analysis of the item game and why it is beneficial to give mayorship to an item game player? i dont care if you think i am a scum, because my MATH is sound. if im scum, nominate someone else. an item game player needs to be mayor. I agree with your math. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:38 deconduo wrote: I agree, pretty good chance LSB is red from how he is reacting. LSB is pink. | ||
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I'm just pretty sure you're not town. | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:46 GMarshal wrote: I'm going to disagree, fo a bunch of reasons 1.) no group can afford to take out everyone in the item game but their player as he instantly is revealed (e.g. if the mafia teams takes out all the greens and hangs the 3rd party well, who the mafia is becomes evident) 2.) Why? If they hit in the game they might hit a player who's items have been stolen or who has a crappy item, by hitting the town they have a better chance of getting a blue or a good power. 3.) Medics should use their saves on the most protown players. period. whether in the item game or out of it. Also why are we discussion blue's actions Night 0? the night is still 48+ hours away and we need to worry about other issues. Green can afford to. Why don't you love green Gman???? | ||
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On March 25 2011 08:54 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Ok, so my point still stands. You either have terrible logic, or you slipped. The exact same scenario happens if you kill the red day 1, too. In that scenario, it will just end up being: Mayor Town vs. Black, same results. Blacks are only bullet-proof, not lynch-proof, and the only people capable of killing reds outside of lynches are power town roles. I'm saying there's no difference between going after either scum party in the item game, after you said you wanted to specifically target blacks. Black only has an auto-win in the item game if you never lynch them, so do some analysis after, and hang them before they get to the end. Red is also a danger in the item game, I'd say even more so than the blacks because of their higher KP. I never mentioned anywhere about the different mayors possible in the item game, just your insistence on the blacks without any convincing reasoning. I'm leaning to saying you are Red. If you were a green player in the item game, you would be worried about lynching anti-town forces in the item game, not just blacks. You wouldn't be worried about black's bulletproof-ness either, because you can't rely on killing powers, you'd have to rely on lynches. If you were red however, you'd love to get the mayorship, so that you could be immune from getting killed by the blacks. You'd also love to have day 1 snipe against the blacks. And lastly, you'd have an easier time lynching the black in the game than he would have of lynching you. Your reactions aren't helping. He slipped. He's been called scum 3 times now ignoring them all. Just hoping it goes away. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:05 annul wrote: i fully intended to say "kill the black." if i am elected mayor, it would be suboptimal to kill the red in item game. i posted my math immediately when you challenged me originally, but YOU conveniently ignored that, too. if anything, it is you who looks quite suspicious at the moment. I have a great desire to kill scum. Their color doesn't really matter to me atm. Your fixation is somewhat fascinating. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:13 annul wrote: blacks can only die to lynch/mayor kill reds can die to those PLUS black's KP. therefore, we should try to find the black since we have to be the ones to pull the trigger on him. I'm well aware of that. Got an FoS this morning for pointing it out. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:18 OriginalName wrote: Id like to quickly bring up something as well off the topic of electing mayor as really we can be multi-tasking and accomplishing more things with our free time. LYNCHING BLACK VS REDS Blacks Are Bulletproof have 2kp(???) Can shoot TOWN AND SCUM will BLOCK SCUM SHOTS will BLOCK VIGI SHOTS We must note that if scum hits someone and they dont die they may claim vigi and try to out them as a black while they could be vets or medic protected. Really watch for scum to try to out somene by faking a black claim. Scum 2kp Can be hit by vigis and Blacks Can be lynched Have a godfather Just by power analysis Blacks are a blessing and a curse as they may end up eliminating scum as well as some of our own. Hell they might even hit GF Yet as they are bulletproof id like yo ask town something If we have a black suspect and a red suspect who do we lynch? Black 1st of course. Red the next day. The odds of that particular scenario occurring though is unlikely. | ||
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On March 25 2011 09:20 LSB wrote: It would be hilarious if you guys killed the all page before Day 1 even starts This is the most active game I've been in yet. Take your odd sense of humor start righting up role PMs On that I'll be gone for a couple of hours.Maybe even til tomorrow. Dunno yet. | ||
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I'm going to go to bed shortly. I'll vote tomorrow. | ||
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On March 25 2011 11:31 Lanaia wrote: It's not page 50 yet, is it? Bottom of page 49 | ||
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On March 25 2011 11:39 Lanaia wrote: I thought someone said he was unbanned. He was talking earlier. He is. He's lurking. Anti town do that. | ||
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On March 25 2011 11:50 Eiii wrote: Oh fuck I forgot voting was going to be done in a separate thread. Unless I'm way off about this: IF YOU VOTE IN THE THREAD, MAKE A NOTE OF THE VOTE HERE AS WELL EXPLAINING YOUR REASONING voting threads seem really dangerous to me, potentially letting people go completely under the radar while still influencing each day's lynch. We have to set a precedence that silently voting WITHOUT at least mentioning it in this thread is extremely suspicious. Ya noted. XXXVII made that a requirement. LSB has made no such requirement. Good luck with your campaign. Sorry. I'm tired and half baked. Goodnight. | ||
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On March 25 2011 14:35 bumatlarge wrote: Dont mix up blues with power roles this game. Blue in this game should mean my circle, not an individual person with a power like DT medi or vig. Those are "Power" roles. Say this again bum. I see players making the same mistake that was made in XXXV. Players assuming that there will be a vig or a medic or other typical blue roles. We don't know that. We must play with the assumption there are none. | ||
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On March 25 2011 23:32 tnkted wrote: This. Amber[LighT] and Brownbear haven't posted much of anything, and i know that they both (brownbear at least) are usually pretty active. We could also put some pressure on lemonwalrus. As a matter of fact, lets analyze lemonwalrus. He's a noobie. A green noobie (such as myself) would be excited about the game, and would be posting a lot. A blue noobie would sit back and lurk. We know he isn't a blue noobie because there aren't any in the item game. Therefore... Well this was an astounding contribution. Actually, GM called him out on it: Waffling. He doesn't have an opinion. To give him credit, this is early in the game, but still he hasn't contributed anything. If he was really a noobie townie he'd be falling over himself trying to contribute something. But he doesn't, and whats more, his reasons for not contributing are very telling: he claims hes a noobie! Why is he using his noobiness to explain why he isn't contributing?! A true green noobie would be trying to contribute his ass off (like I am right now) instead of coming into the thread, posting unhelpful bullshit like this. Also notice how one small paragraph in that 'significant post' as chaoser calls it immediately below is actually related to the topic at hand (bum), and the rest of it is devoted to an entirely tangential vote on the IRC channel. I'd say, purely line for line, only a forth of this post is actually analysis, and its analysis that had been done by six other players by the time he posted it. Then, when he gets called out for waffling, he posts this. IRC IRC IRC. No discussion on bum, no discussion on kav. He has no thoughts other than IRC (which a noobie mafia would obviously not want) and a rehashing of a rehashing of bums position. And this is his last significant post in this topic! his final post says something like, "I decided not to post until roles were given out. The last ten pages in this topic could have been replaced with a kitten playing with yarn." I wasn't convinced he was mafia before I started this post but I am now. BURN THE WALRUS So since he's not you he's scum? | ||
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On March 26 2011 02:16 tnkted wrote: i'm not just talking about the quantity of his posts, I'm talking about quality. Lanaia and igrok have contributed some solid analysis, while lemon has done nothing at all. His one little bit of analysis was a rehash. Although, I suppose that its difficult to analyze noobies because they tend to act in unpredictable ways (as ziphh points out). Ok, I'll retract my accusation. But lemonwalrus... I'm watching you. I AM THE EGGMAN Meh. More like: | ||
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On March 26 2011 05:24 Lanaia wrote: Why are you PMing with him again? Did I miss something? Item game. I also have a multitude of PMs with the other item game players. | ||
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On March 26 2011 05:30 CubEdIn wrote: Actually, I said that as well. But not because I don't think you're scummy (or let's say... anti-town-ish), but because we should have everyone who signed up play this game, not surf around the lurker wave. There are 6 of us in the item game. One of us is going to die today. So annul is definitely a target. If town pushes a lynch for somebody not in the item game town is as insane as the name of the game. | ||
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On March 26 2011 05:35 annul wrote: you do realize town doesnt get to pick the lynch today right Yep. | ||
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#1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum. #2 I want medic protection over night. #3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch. #4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched. #5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win. #6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow. #7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3 #8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle #9 That's 8 vs the world #10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us. #11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot. #12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2. #13 Town wins. #14 Scum sucks. #15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing. #16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!! | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:36 Lanaia wrote: + Show Spoiler + On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote: Hola fellow townies. A fond fuck you to scum. I'm gonna do the same shit i did in XXXVII. I'm gonna start a shit storm of the absolute highest magnitude. I'm going to exceedingly piss off 3 IG players and I'm going to tell you guys to lay off three of them. But I'm not telling which 3 until tomorrow. And now I'm going to give town victory on day 1 #1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum. #2 I want medic protection over night. #3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch. #4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched. #5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win. #6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow. #7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3 #8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle #9 That's 8 vs the world #10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us. #11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot. #12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2. #13 Town wins. #14 Scum sucks. #15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing. #16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!! It would be nine confirmed townies if you include bum himself, isn't it? Also, Jackal, why is Tackster scum? Consensus. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02. I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more. Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... I don't care if he's still wearing diapers. I'm not here to give people warm fuzzy welcoming feelings. I'm here to kill scum. If you have issues with a noob getting lynched take it up with LSB. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:45 Beneather wrote: I think we should just lynch all the IG players (: Bound to get some scum players then and we won't have to worry about items making Mafia win.. So killing all the IG players will probrably help us more than it's going to hurt us.. IG alignment is in the OP. 4 green. 1 red 1 black. You red or black? | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:49 chaoser wrote: LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. Thank you. I was on the fence with you. Welcome to townsville. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:49 Insanious wrote: I'm just saying... we are here to build a community, and if I had been lynched day 1 when it was my first game, I wouldn't of come back. Most others would feel the same way. Lynching day 1 or day 2 is pretty much the exact same thing, just let the newer players have some fun, while killing others that look scummy. I know I won't be voting for Trackster simply because I can't in good conscience know that I might be ruining someone's possibly becoming a regular in TL mafia by this... I have no problem killing him after he gets a taste of what mafia is like... but he hasn't even lived a night cycle, or lynched anyone yet... but thats just me. We're here to kill scum. Period. We aren't here to build jack shit. We're here to kill them before they kill us. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:52 Insanious wrote: TL has a problem getting larger games going, lynching new players doesn't help. Look at Death Factory, where we only had 17 people... Trackster doesn't even look red. People are lynching him because he doesn't post... I would rather kill someone who usually posts but doesn't, then ruin the chance of having a new TL regular. Don't care how he looks. He's either red or black. What color you reppin? | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:55 ilovejonn wrote: Okay guys...stop. I agree with both Insanious and Jackal. We need to kill scum, however your only reasoning for killing Tack was "consensus". That doesn't show anything at all. I've read his posts, I do not think he is scum. Also, convincing bum to lynch him is another matter as well. Consensus comes from IG PMs. 5 of 6 say he's scum he's scum. No other factions or influences. He's scum. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:08 GMarshal wrote: Can you quote scummy PM's? Point out scummy posts? Do something other than say that your circle agrees to it? I want reasons I can hold you to if he dosn't flip scum. Surely you came to this consensus based on *something* other than gut (although with you, annul and coag in the same circle it would not come as a great surprise ) Annul and I disagree. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:11 chaoser wrote: Jackal, while I am not ok with "Let's not kill a new player cause he's new", I do want to ask if we can get a little more clarification if possible. Many of Tackster's posts in thread seem relatively pro-town. Says he's voting Bum and supporting him early, talks about how he'd rather the mayor make his own call instead of being swayed by town, takes a stance in whether annul is town or not. His stances were taken and there wasn't a lot of swaying. I'm not putting forth his lynch because he's new. I'm doing it because a majority of IG say he is. I'm very much convinced of the alignment of 2. I'm town. that's 3 1 of the other 3 is sure he's red or black. Tackster hasn't responded to PMs. Annul is sure of another. Right now annul is at best a 60/40 chance of me shooting him. Tackster is scum. You don't want to trust me that's fine. I put it in Bum's hands. He is more than welcome to lynch me and risk losing towns only night kp. But lynching Tackster is at least a 75% probability of a red or a black on 1st lynch. I like those odds so much I made a post that is going to get me killed no matter how it plays out. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:14 GMarshal wrote: Still didn't answer the body of my question, let me bold it so its clear. I dunno if I'm allowed to. Can I post PMs from the IG circle? | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:27 Insanious wrote: So your saying this is scummy? This is the most TOWN oriented thing a new player could do... Scum will try to manipulate the town circle to do their bidding... A new player, will be easily persuaded. A new player on a scum team, will have the scum team to talk to to help them out. No scum would ignore PMs, unless their whole scum team is terrible. No. I'm saying 4 of 5 minus him are in a consensus. Annul thinks Lemonwalrus is. There are 2 separate scum factions involved. Do the math. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:28 GMarshal wrote: Jackal I want the concrete, physical evidence why you think Tackster is scum and which player in the IG you think are town and why you think they are. I want *concrete* evidence, posts or PMs that can be quoted and analyzed. Not this nebulous we agree on it. Give me something to work with jackal, please. I am not going to do that. My original post said I am not going to do that. I will not and can not put townies on the line before night one action. You know what I have said. Everything I have posted can be confirmed during night one actions. I will not post PMs for the same reason. My post was more for Bum and his team to go over. But I want to be as transparent as I can be. But I will not kill my fellow townies to satisfy your desire to defend scum. Sorry man. I gave you what I can. It's Bum's lynch. Not yours. He can feel free to lynch me if he chooses. But I just put my dick entirely on the line for town and I feel no special compulsion to further satisfy your curiosity. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:40 tnkted wrote: Lol... That applied to you too annul. FACEPALM Oh well. Jackal, there are a few more. see if you can find one. On March 25 2011 23:32 tnkted wrote: IRC IRC IRC. No discussion on bum, no discussion on kav. He has no thoughts other than IRC (which a noobie mafia would obviously not want) and a rehashing of a rehashing of bums position. And this is his last significant post in this topic! his final post says something like, "I decided not to post until roles were given out. The last ten pages in this topic could have been replaced with a kitten playing with yarn." I wasn't convinced he was mafia before I started this post but I am now. BURN THE WALRUS | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:12 chaoser wrote: Where's jackal I wonder lol My internet died. Then I had to look for an IRC or chat post from tinkle toes. | ||
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On March 26 2011 07:04 tnkted wrote: Nah, theres no time limit on it, all the pieces have been laid already. I would advise item members to hold off on talking to each other for a few hours, though I doubt it will upset anything. Sit tight? I don't fucking know dude. I suck at clues unless you're Cubed. Then I'll call you scum for 2/3s of a game and be right while being wrong. I'm done. Believe me or not. I'm sticking to where I put my dick out at. Your validation isn't required. Bum's is. | ||
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Where who why when and how. Interrogatives. What what? | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:37 tnkted wrote: Can you highlight where in the post I use the word/phrase/breadcrumb? and the sit tight comment was from several hours ago before you came out with your plan, which triggered mine. I told you I don't really give a shit. I'm not jumping through any more of your hoops to appease your curiosity. Bum holds the only hoops I'm interested in. We have the game in hand. We is town. Go bait some robins. | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:43 chaoser wrote: wow jackal lol I'm good at this yes? I didn't put you up for lynch this time. | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:45 tnkted wrote: and uh, FOS JACKAL Really? Because i haven't got a clue wtf you're on about? I can't link my role PM from Kita but if LSB allows I'll copy and paste it. Honestly I have no idea what you are looking for. Sit tight your role is coming. And a link. I didn't get a role I got an item. Wtf do you want from me breadcrumb man? | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:47 Lemonwalrus wrote: I think jackal is drunk this pleases me gun toting drunk guy pew-pewing scum without giving a single shit about his own well being. This will be entertainment of the highest caliber. I am. And I'm going to bed. I'm soon to post things Qatol has informed me are bad juju for mafia players. So rather than making an ass out of myself my drunken ass is going to go flame people on another forum where I can get away with it and finish my beer. Bum please consider my post and let me know whether I'm dead or not. | ||
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On March 26 2011 13:54 tnkted wrote: Actually, its alignment PM that I refer to in my posts. All the role PMs are different. Well that's a big freakin difference there isn't it Pilgrim. | ||
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On March 26 2011 16:56 Eiii wrote: Mostly just checking in here, but I really don't like the tackster lynch for now. I had him as a pretty green read, and I CANNOT BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T CALL JACKAL OUT ON THIS I thought this was some kind of throwaway joke reply at first but the he started backing it up. Originally I was going to post another selection of quotes from him that I was gonna say made me question his previously-green status in my mind, but then I read over them and realized I was an idiot and missed the point of the posts entirely. I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town, but that doesn't mean we sheep after him all the time. If anyone in the item game should be lynched I think it should be darm, lemon and tack need more investigation. I'm not asking anybody to sheep. I'm offering 2 scum at the possibility of 1 townie getting hit. Best case is 2 for 2 and then 4 confirmed townies worst case is 3 confirmed townies. On March 26 2011 20:06 deconduo wrote: Jackal is mafia. I've been talking with several pro-town spirits and they all agree that he's mafia. Ignore the lack of evidence against him, this is 100% proof that he's mafia... The two scum in the item game will try and push whoever they feel they can get away with pushing. They will agree with X being scum no matter what. Jackal just tunnels whoever he feels like, Lemon is new, and Annul has said he has no read on Tack. Pretty strong case there. Guess what decon. Your spirit world don't know jack. And I'm not tunneling anybody. I put out my plan and then spent a half hour jumping through some stupid hoops tinkle toes put forth. I've said repeatedly I'm leaving it in bum's capable hands. Oh and my spirits told me to "rape their faces" | ||
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I know what 3 of the IG items are. Of the 3 none are particularly beneficial to the black team but they would allow reds to rape us. The other 3 may have attributes that would equally make black damn near invincible but that is merely speculation on my part. I know who 3 of the 4 townies are. Of the 3 of us we are confident in our choice of Tackster. Of the other 3 1 says a scum is definitely among the two noobs in the IG. Annul says it's the other noob. Of those 3 players 2 are scum. Plain and simple. 66% chance that Tack is red or black. 50% of the IG players agree he is scum. 1 other allows for it to be likely. 2 disagree. 1 being Tackster the other annul. Yes we may be wrong but it will pretty much nail the other two to the wall if we are. Worse case scenario 1 townie - 1 red - 1 black. Items to town. I can't make it any more win than that. Again this is more for bum than anybody else but feel free to call me names some more. I am nothing but pro town. | ||
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On March 26 2011 22:41 Tackster wrote: You're not 'offering' two scum your 'gambling' 2 scum... Worst case here is you lynch a townie and FOS 2 more townies... Not a chance. | ||
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On March 26 2011 23:46 Insanious wrote: That is the worst reason I have heard in a mafia game pretty much ever... In a game of mafia, people don't trust the town as a whole because it can be manipulated by mafia. The same can be said about a 6 person mafia game (aka. The Item Game). Mafia ARE manipulating the town in that game... the scum WILL follow any lynch that a green puts forward as long as it is not against them self... A show of hands means absolutely nothing, when the scum are whispering lies into people's ears. Only proof means anything, and without PMs or posts, this means nothing. - - - - Now, lets look to where Jackal SLIPPED UP: Alright, so he is saying: - Darmousseh, Lemmon, Jackal, and Coag say Tack is scum - Annul and Tack say that Tack is town but wait... So now he is making up what Annul said... He told me Lemonwalrus was scum. I said that already Not to mention darmousseh, who doesn't post, is telling Jackal that he thinks Tack is scum. darm told me one of the two noobs was scum. I said that. So Jackal lied about what he knew of other players, in order to get Tack killed... very town like right? Another lie, that we know... Tackster said he hasn't been sent, or has sent out PMs... meaning Jackal once again LIED about Tackster to get him killed. Tackster had received PMs at that point. He lied. This doesn't make sense either... He has already said "Tackster is scum" "Me, Coag are Town" "Annul is probably town" So who are you putting at risk? darmousseh or lemon? And i forget, didn't you say lemon was town as well later... So basically you are not putting out PMs because why? Because everyone knows you think Coag, you, annul, and lemmon are town. That darmousseh and Tackster are scum... dude wtf. ... and then he cannot find the proof of town in tnkted's posts. So basically Jackal doesn't have the town alignment PM. I'm not interested in playing tinkle toes breadcrumb game. He already sent me off looking for shit from the wrong PM. Pretty scummy on his part. Jackal is Scum. He is manipulating the IG to win it for his scum team. I believe he thinks that Tackster is the other scum team player... Jackal needs to die. I have not lied. You can spin it any scummy way you want. Go ahead and lynch me. You'll still be absolutely clueless on who is scum. We'll lose 2 other townies in the game tonight and you sheep will most likely lynch the last one tomorrow. | ||
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On March 27 2011 00:51 Insanious wrote: So... Jackal you do realize YOU and darmousseh are the ONLY players in the item game that have NOT shown that they know what the town alignment PM is... So basically YOU and darmousseh DID NOT GET ONE. You are a normal townie, sit tight, you'll get your role in 24 hours Townie is in green. Twinkle toes told me to look in role PMs Then said Oh sorry I meant alignment PMs. that's when I quit playing his game. It's bs any ways. Not copied - typed out. Sit tight while I nail your scummy ass to the wall. | ||
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On March 27 2011 01:11 chaoser wrote: Seems the only thing you know is sit tight. And only sit tight. Do you know any of the other bread crumbs? I quit looking. I don't care. If my inability to care about his bread crumbs makes me scum lynch me. I posted my alignment PM. Wtf else do you want? | ||
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On March 27 2011 01:11 chaoser wrote: Seems the only thing you know is sit tight. And only sit tight. Do you know any of the other bread crumbs? Actually your inability to recognize an alignment PM makes me think you're red or black. On March 27 2011 01:26 tnkted wrote: And please stop calling me twinkle toes, I really have no idea where you are getting that nickname and its fairly condescending. Sorry I don't remember your name and when I'm making a post referring to you I'm typing what comes to mind. I'm not stopping to go look for the correct spelling. I'll eventually get it right but so far everybody knows who I'm talking about. Calling me scum because you had me looking for your stupid clues from my role PM is a bit condescending too. If you meant alignment PM you should have said alignment PM not Role alignment. And then use that to call me scum. Pffftttt. Maybe you should inform everybody you pooched your post. | ||
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On March 27 2011 02:09 tnkted wrote: Why would me asking for your role PM make any sense? I wouldn't have recieved your role PM. If I mistyped that, I'm sorry, but nobody else seemed to have any difficulty understanding what I meant. I duuno. You tell me- On March 26 2011 12:14 tnkted wrote: Your Role alignment PM. If you are a townie and you've been reading my posts, its pretty obvious that I am also a townie because I've been quoting words and phrases from that alignment PM. I want you to quote a post where I do so. The words and phrases are not hard to see, they aren't words like 'the.' If you're green, you'll be able to find something. If you aren't... well... | ||
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On March 27 2011 02:34 Lanaia wrote: People saying Jackal's scum. Tackster, have you been spoken to in PM with other item game members? Annul said he had no opinion on you when Jackal said 5/6 of the IG said you were scum. Jackal said 4/6 after someone pointed that out, I believe. If I've misread this at all, please tell me. I did ebwop immediately. If they aren't the same post time they're a minute apart and nobody posted between them or "pointed" anything out. It was a typo. | ||
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On March 27 2011 02:35 Tackster wrote: Thinking about it now if scum have a DT item then it does them no good really as far as the item game goes. That leaves them with other powers (such as a killing shot) with which they would be stronger. I assume that scum weren't given non-scummy items but since this is insane mafia and it's a mini-game then it's possible. Anyway the point is if a town is lynched d1 and all the town use then even if none are killed at night scum could steal from 2 out of 3. That leaves us with little information to work with. If scum kill another town then that leaves us with almost no information... Darmo what do you think of all greens agreeing to steal instead? Do you have a DT item you're confused what to do with? | ||
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On March 27 2011 02:31 Tackster wrote:Lastly there may be vig style powers in the IG. I feel giving scum a shot (assuming they have one - jackal keep saying either he or coagulation do) Just to clarify - I have not said anything about what coag may or may not possess. Any claims he may make are his and his alone. Just to clarify - I have not "kept" saying anything. I put it in my original plan. I reiterated it to bum. I am not allowed to PM him so basically you guys all get to see what I would have sent him in a PM if I were allowed to.I'm much better at this game in PM land than I am in the game proper itself. I lose my patience too easily. It's a fault I'm working on. | ||
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On March 27 2011 02:49 annul wrote: i never said i had no read on him i said i did not tell jackal my read. big difference. And I never claimed you did. I said you thought Lemonwalrus was scum. That is what you told me, that is what I told town. Town's collective IQ of a sea cucumber turned that into I said you said something I never said you said. Say that 4 times fast after a few beers. | ||
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On March 27 2011 02:51 Lanaia wrote: Making a plan behind closed doors isn't that great. How can they be clear, though? If it has been done without your knowledge, then... should it really be valid? Maybe the other two have not been involved with this as well. Do you think Coag and Lemon have some sort of pact? I always make plans behind closed doors. Making plans here is useless. | ||
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On March 27 2011 03:06 Tackster wrote: Ok i've searched and searched and searched and I cannot find the post I'm looking for - someone help me!! I was certain I read that Jackal had said something along the lines of: ...and then we shoot someone **with coags item**... But I can't find it in your posts - or anyone else And i definitely remember something along those lines.. Can anyone point me to the post im talking about? It only exists in your mind. | ||
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If you can put together a plan of action outside the eyes of scum and employ it to towns advantage what is scummy about that? It happened to great effect in XXXVII. Ser Apsi and Foolishness raped scum. LSB Coag and I raped scum. Kevconsim and why followed my plan to win the end game. What is scummy about killing scum? Why would I put together a plan in front of scum? You're not very good at this yet are you? | ||
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On March 27 2011 04:33 annul wrote: "Annul: Are you sure? Jackal: Trust me, I am pro Annul: Ok" would never happen I would never try it. I haven't asked anybody in town to trust me really. I trust 2 others in the item game. I put forth a proposal for bum to consider. The ensuing conversation has brought some scum to light and has placed others in the town camp. All in all it's a win for town. Tack doesn't like it because he's the one I put up for lynch. Annul doesn't like it because he's got his own agenda. I have no clue where darm is at. I'm guessing he doesn't like it either. I did promise to piss off 3 IG game players. I delivered. The rest of you are just along for the ride. It's bums call now. He and his blue team will make a town decision. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:10 bumatlarge wrote: Man you guys sure do jump around. Outside of the IG, I have to say tackster has been working his ass off to prove he is town, and in general has gotten much more defense. Personally, I hate the "Lynch me then and you will see I am town" argument. Do not blame your lack of townieness on me, thank you very much. People in the IG do not have long to live. Would it really be smart for tackster's scumbuddies to go all out in defending him when he is probably going to flip in the next day or so? The fact that jackal has gotten no defense makes it appear that way (strangely the only defense was 2 posts from orgolove and now hes back in the shadows ) So I do feel that tackster is town and jackal is not. However, I still stand by how I view the IG game to a degree. If tackster has done something so scummy that it nullifies everything that has been stated, I need to know what that is. Like-wise, if jackal has done something so protown, etc. i need to know. What I need right now is one target from each IG player. And give me town reads as well.I do NOT need two scum tells as people have pointed out repeatedly that scum will FoS whoever they can. I knew when I put up my plan I would be target #1. I did it anyways. Because it is in towns best interest. Coag is town. LW is town. I am town. I possess towns night KP. I have outlined the 3 separate scenarios that can occur off of a Tackster lynch. I stand by my plan. I stand by my lynch decision. My target is Tackster. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:13 bumatlarge wrote: Alright, I just want confirmation on this from all. Even if two are scum, three of you who are town have a strong feeling that tackster is scum, even with what he has posted in the thread? I'll be honest and fair. Out of Tackster Annul and Darm 2 are scum. I picked Tack simply because I saw him as the easiest lynch. If you want to lynch darm I'm cool with that as well. The longer this has gone on the more I think annul is the town out of those 3. It is a numbers game. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:23 deconduo wrote: Ok if bum picks Tack, I'm lynching you tomorrow when Tack flips town. Someone who blindly tunnels until he gets what he wants is no good, regardless of alignment. Doesn't matter how he flips. I'm shooting you tonight. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:49 Lanaia wrote: QFT. But seriously, Jackal, why isn't it necessary to give us proof? Same to annul. Because none of us have any "proof". I can tell you what items LW and coag have. But I'm not going to. I can't prove coag and LW are town any more than I could prove LSB and coag were town in XXXVII. Bum if you want to lynch me go for it. But then lynch darm tack and annul in the next 3 days. Probably be too late but hey. What the hell. I'll be dead. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:57 darmousseh wrote: I'm definitely in the lynch jackal camp right now. His reaction to his being suspected is almost exactly identical to another game which I played where he was mafia. I don't have enough of a read on tack to say anything. I also suspect one of annul/coag is probably black since black wants to kill mafia too, but I have no cause for it other than that they are playing very strategical right now. Lynch jackal imo. Clues and puzzles???? I was dead day 1 no matter what I did. Thank you LSB. | ||
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On March 27 2011 05:58 annul wrote: dont get me wrong, i DEFINITELY think tackster is scum. If you're the 4th townie he has to be. | ||
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On March 27 2011 06:40 Tackster wrote: Coagulation even if I were to agree that the posts were scummy - which of course they werent and i were to agree you did analysis on them - which you didnt, you just said 'look scum' and left it there you still are referencing PMs that occured AFTER you FOSsed me. You haven't mentioned any material from before you made your mind up. Nobody could say anything about you until I posted my plan. You were inactive. Now you're the towns darling. If I had put forth darm or annul you'd still be lurking. | ||
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On March 27 2011 06:59 deconduo wrote: At what point was he inactive? He's been posting since the game started. He has 100 posts, all of them in this thread. You are making shit up once again. Ya you're right. 40 posts arguing with annul and another 60 omgusing me. | ||
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On March 27 2011 07:17 Insanious wrote: Basically for me... Track has given town over 100 posts to analyze for later Jackal/Coag have given few posts. The posts they have given... half of them contradict the other half "Tack is 100% scum" vs "I'm not 100% sure he is scum" "Jackal, Coag, Lemon are confirmed" vs "We will be confirming Jackal, Coag, and lemon by day 2" "Tack isn't responding to PMs" vs "No one sent Tack PMs" "Tack was inactive" vs "Tack being active the whole time with over 100 posts" Everything Coag and Jackal have said is a lie... so how can I support anything you do? You lie, and then contradict your selves later in your posts... I don't understand how you can do that and still think we will follow what you are doing. Nobody has lied. You keep alluding to that. You take posts out of timeline and represent them as accurate. Then say we lie. You sir are scum. I'm becoming more convinced with every post you make defending Trackster that he is your scumbuddy. Keep 'em coming. | ||
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On March 27 2011 07:19 deconduo wrote: Don't forget that Jackal got one totally wrong as well. He then claimed it was because he was looking for one relating to his role PM, but HOW COULD YOU BREADCRUMB A ROLE PM! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8452176 Already covered that. | ||
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On March 27 2011 07:25 Insanious wrote: Dude, don't even try this with me, you want me to go through every post of yours and line them up? If you say 12 hours ago "Tack is 100% scum" Then a hour ago "not confirmed scum, just most likely scum" Still a lie. Doesn't matter if it was 12 hours ago, or 24 hours ago. You said it was confirmed and it wasn't. Just like you said, when you first posted that Jackal, Coag, and Lemon were 100% confirmed. Yet just now, Coag posted about a Plan to confirm you guys. This means you lied. You said Tack didn't respond to PMs, yet then Tack said you guys didn't PM him. And you said you left him out of the PM circle. Another lie. Then you were just caught in a lie saying Tack was inactive, when he never was. You have LIED, stop LYING TO THE TOWN. jesus, if you are town, you are the worst town in the history of mafia. Go ahead scummy. Everyone of them. Link them all with time stamps. I'll start you off. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8445339 My two scenarios as outlined allude to the fact that I might be wrong on Trackster. However with your stalwart defense of him and your uncanny ability to see lies in every thing I say I am now 100% positive he is scum. So are you. | ||
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On March 27 2011 07:34 tnkted wrote: Well, i can see why you were confused, but I said role alignment pm. I mistyped. Regardless, three people had already posted the clues by the time you got back on, so my chance to confirm you was wasted. :/ In return, however, we got coag and annul and lemon confirmed, and it appears from allayall's internal discussions that you guys concur on that front, so I guess thats one good thing that happened from this plan. I was also half in the bag. So my list of confirmed townies matches yours from the IG game. And now we include annul. And I'm still scum. | ||
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On March 27 2011 08:01 Insanious wrote: Fine, lets start here... This DOES NOT allude to Tackster being anything but SCUM. #2 says he is scum black or red #3 says you will shoot the other scum when tackster flips red/black You do not say anywhere that you might be wrong. There is 0% interpretation where you allude to not being 100% sure Tack is scum here. If you can show me exactly what lines allude to that.... Here's you saying he is 100% black or red Again saying he is 100% red or black First time you said Tack wasn't 100% Scum... so now you are trying to weasel your self out of what your previously said. For 17 pages before this post, you said Tackster was 100% scum, 0% chance of not being scum. Now, since we are attacking you. You are saying "oh wait... he is just 2/3 chance, not 100% chance" Very scummy. Scum like to leave backdoors, you are making yours very late, then trying to weasel out of it later. Now, as people start to question your plan. Tack goes from 100% scum (AS seen in point #2 and #3 of your plan) To only being 66% scum... you think. Wait, now your saying you could be wrong... look at the first post here, you linked it. You NEVER SAID YOU COULD BE WRONG. You said Tack could be red or black. You NEVER ONCE said he could be green. LIER! HELL, now you are saying that you don't even have proof to say that track is scum or not... you are just guessing. Before you confirmed he was scum, now you are saying he might not be? That its just a hunch... - - - - So your plan was built on a LIE (Tack being confirmed scum), because you LIED saying he was scum (see posts above)... then you LIED saying you didn't LIE. :/ Time to look into your other LIES. I'm not weaseling anything. You are. | ||
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On March 27 2011 08:12 GMarshal wrote:OMGUS, you were caught in a lie, if you are town own up to it and try to get us as much information as possible, if you aren't then prepare to die, scum. Seriously this whole IG discussion has consisted of you guys saying we have a plan and scum saying fuck this. We're not dieing that easy.. No I wasn't. And fixed that for you. | ||
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On March 27 2011 08:32 Insanious wrote: I'm interested in killing scum. Tack doesn't look scummy to me... Jackal does. Has nothing to do with Tack. I haven't even brought up the Tack lynch in a while. I've been talking about killing Jackal, where he lied. He was lieing while talking about Tack. Don't try to make a link where there isn't one. There is a big difference between me defending tack and attacking Jackal. You can't seem to see that. Hopefully the rest of the town can. Your interests lie purely with whichever scum team you're affiliated with. | ||
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On March 27 2011 08:42 Insanious wrote: In my eyes, you and Jackal have done absolutely nothing. You have shown nothing to support that you have done anything. You talk... amongst your selves. You tell town to trust you. But you haven't acutally tried to tell me you've done anything. Tack has at least participated in the game. He laid out ideas for the town to look at. He gave posts for the town to analyze. And he looks green. The rest of you IG players have not done that, you play in your own little world... and guess what its biting you in the ass. As town, you need to share info, so that we don't kill you. Its how it always works. Mafia work to keep info away from the town. Thats how it works. By being secretive you are shooting your self in the foot. Now Jackal is caught up in lies, with no way to explain them, and he looks 100% scum, You are out here defending him simply because you put work into making some sort of plan, that I assume exists or you wouldn't be defending him... but I don't know if it does... You have vested interests that are clouding your judgement. If you actually want to help Jackal and the town. SHOW ME HOW HE IS NOT SCUM. Don't just tell me that he isn't. You've done nothing but call me scum. How do you propose to eliminate the red and the black from the item game? What's your plan hot shot? How do you propose going about doing it. Oh I know. I'll defend the hell out of my scum buddy. That's your plan. | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:06 GMarshal wrote: Jackal may well be a townie, but that dosn't make him infallible, if Tack flips green then it dosn't necessarily make jackal scum, which means we cannot afford to waste a lynch on him, unless we get enough evidence. -_- GMarshal is not a happy camper, oh, and at all the lurkers, your doom is creeping closer, you know who you are! Dude. Like I originally said. Best case scenario is 2 for 2. Worst case is 2 out of 3. Insanious has convinced me we're going to go 2 for 2. | ||
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But just let me say this. If you think I'd put my dick out like this playing as scum y'all are nuttier than a squirrel turd. | ||
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Brave soul. All of us in the IG have great big targets on our backs. Unless you are red. Then your target is probably a little bit smaller. | ||
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On March 27 2011 11:58 Lanaia wrote: He might be but I feel Jackal is more scum than darmo is. You've been sure I was scum then sure I was town then sure I was scum and now I'm scummier than a dead scum. Dammit I'm town. Not even a scum team member with an IQ of 3 would play this like I have. | ||
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On March 27 2011 12:38 annul wrote: the red is not going to kill into the IG for reasons i stated earlier. or, if he does, he's retarded. the black wants to prolong IG. so we are all safe tonight. I doubt it. Hit me with your reasons again. I was busy defending myself from the scum team. To be honest I didn't read a lot of what you posted this evening. | ||
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On March 27 2011 13:15 chaoser wrote: Supporting a lynch of a red/black player doesn't mean as much as it usually does since reds don't know black and visa versa. It's more important to look at who's against the lynches. If we're going to take that approach you all are on my list. | ||
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On March 27 2011 17:14 Eiii wrote: I'm just catching up now but want to point out what I meant was lost here-- I meant DESPITE the fact that I felt (and probably others felt) jackal was town we shouldn't just go along with his plans when he doesn't offer anything to back them up, which he was doing quite a bit at the time. Obviously this pretty much goes without saying all the time but I wanted to show support for jackal without agreeing with his seemingly-arbitrary 'x is scum' statements. I didn't care if town "went along" or not. It was bums show. Like I've already said my "plan" was more a PM to bum. I can't PM people outside of the IG so I posted it in the thread. Town went ballistic. I knew that going into it. I also knew that it would create a high probability of me becoming his lynch target. But I was not seeking towns approval. Somebody said making plans through PMs is scummy. No it isn't This is why planning through PMs is so much more effective than doing it in game. I would not have tried this gambit if town held the lynch. It would have gotten me killed. Town would lose the item game. 2 different scum team members would still be running around. Don't be looking for any more plans from me. If any plans are hatched they will be with us 4 confirmed townies from the IG. You will only see the results. Can the IG players continue their PM circle after the IG is over? | ||
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On March 27 2011 16:06 annul wrote: you. cheated. simple. that is what you did. you cheated. i do not care what color you are or what color i am, i do not appreciate cheating in any game. it ruins the entire game. and on top of cheating, you have the gall to call me "little retard" and be a general nuisance. fuck off. LSB: please replace me with barundar, or blow my potato up, either way, i am done playing this game. You are aware that RoL could easily PM Tackster with out cheating? Aren't you? Reds of a feather blow up together man. Stay in the game man. | ||
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On March 27 2011 22:53 tnkted wrote: Wtf has been happening? Annul was confirmed town 60 pages ago by my little game. He was the most townesque person here! Am I allowed to PM him to beg him to keep playing? No you can't. But I did already. | ||
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I have defended myself on several occasions with more than a one liner. Defending myself against insanious isn't worth any more than 1 liners. | ||
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On March 27 2011 23:43 Tackster wrote: I also want to insert a message here @Annul. You claimed special 'secret' information from the PM circle. As was obvious you outed your PMs and there was absolutely no information that anything was going on except people were basing there opinions on what was going on in the thread anyway. Why keep a secret when a. There is no secret & b. It doesn't help town anyway... I would refer you to: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=3974110 The secret he revealed is you let slip you received a PM from RoL. And as a first time player it's fascinating that you would be picking the "how to play scum tips" to determine how to play. | ||
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On March 28 2011 00:36 chaoser wrote: I call bullshit on the whole "it was a mistake on my part I mixed them up". No fucking way is RoL anywhere close to Jackal. Not to mention he's not in the item game. I bet you looked at your PM box, wrote the first name at the top cause you weren't looking too carefully to make up a lie and it just happened to be RoL. If someone shoots Tack/we decide to lynch him tomorrow and he flips red, we gotta take a look RoL. So much this. The only way RoL is in your inbox is because you're both scum. The only way you can confuse my name with Rol's is Oh wait there isn't. The only way you can make that mistake is by having a PM conversation with RoL at the same time you are having one with annul. The only way you can be having a PM conversation with RoL is because you're scum. | ||
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On March 28 2011 00:46 Tackster wrote: This unfortunately is the point where I do in fact have to claim a mistake based on the fact it's my first game. Early on RoL started making claims that we should elect him, he would scum hunt all the scum to death, his reads are amazing, blah blah blah Then Jackal came up with his plan that fits in exactly with RoL's behaviour. So I accidentally confused the two as they were playing similarly. Anyway the whole point behind my mentioning the PM for RoL/Jackal is that he asked the same question of me (same wording and everything) as Annul. For that reason I asked annul whether he received/sent that message to Jackal(who i called RoL) to check if they were in cahoots. Go check annuls posts -he basically states he asked Jackal that who seeming to like it, used it on other IG players... The only similarity between myself and RoL is we are both in this game. | ||
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On March 28 2011 01:06 Tackster wrote: Ok: I confirm I haven't broken any rules....yet Because you're scum. You claim to be new. You're not new. You're a smurf. Who are you Tack? Ver again??? LSB made if fairly clear in the OP he wanted some smurfs. He wanted smurfs that told him who they were. You're one of them. You are most assuredly no noob. It's also interesting you so easily dismiss your item. A mood ring. Used to check alignments Funny how the black team got a similar item. Who needs DT's if there is only one scum faction? Town. Who needs DTs if there are 2 scum factions? Everybody. Interesting how darm was the CEO of the black faction. Interesting he had a DT item. You're the GF aren't you Tack? You are certainly no noob. You most assuredly didn't get confused because you don't know anybody's names. Who are you Tack? Foolishness? Ver? Qatol? Because you aren't a noob.. | ||
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On March 28 2011 01:51 deconduo wrote: Jackal, I am never going to let you live that post down. EVER. Cool. | ||
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On March 28 2011 01:46 chaoser wrote: I doubt he's the godfather dude...what kind of retarded mafia would put their GF in the item game, the one place where it's 100% sure that he'll be found and lynched>? The same insaniac that put the Black faction CEO in the IG. Not nice to call LSB a retard dude. | ||
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On March 28 2011 04:18 bumatlarge wrote: 7. darmousseh Day 1 lynch Have no clue probably town GMarshall ain't got jack on you bum. | ||
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On March 28 2011 06:21 iGrok wrote: Hey guys, I know I haven't posted shit-all. There are long and complicated reasons for that, which I won't go in to. I have been keeping track of the game, and I do have list of reads. Unlike Bumatlarge, I'll rank mine from towniest to scummiest. 25. RoL - he's done jack shit to prove town, and hit annul after annul was confirmed town. 90% scum, 10% crazy vig. RoL didn't hit anybody. He just yanked annuls chain. | ||
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On March 28 2011 10:59 Insanious wrote: I predict im going to die... so um... FoS Jackal and Brownbear. If you die I had no hand in it. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:02 Tackster wrote: so who did you have a hand in? Dunno yet. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:13 Tackster wrote: If jackal and I are both FOSsed then we have to lynch one of us today. You know that debate will be huge and now my job has become harder. If they had hit me for instance town would be all over jackal. Why do you think i've been going on about me dying all last night? If you died I'd be confirmed townie. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:19 tnkted wrote: fuuuuuuuuuuuuu What could this mean I wonder? And it looks like two people hit annul. Why didn't his item activate? Somebody must have stolen it before he could use it. From the sounds of it he activated the thing and stormed off. This means that somebody in the item game has the bomb. Vigs, medics, and the bus driver need to be very careful with touching item game members tonight. One person tried to hit someone else but failed (??). That could mean medics protected, or it could mean that they have an ability (or an item!) with a % chance of killing people. Apparently the bus driver confused a few people... are you notified when the bus driver switches you? I suppose its possible from the tone of the post that annul was switched with somebody else... but who would switch annul with? is the bus driver usually a mafia role or a town role? Mad hatter and a bus driver. Annuls potato is no more. It blew up. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:25 tnkted wrote: jack are you saying you tried to kill tack? Tack was the target yes indeed. | ||
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Who did? 1 bussed shot is not a claim. Kills in plural? What do you know we don't? | ||
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I want my goddamned band aid back you pilfering scum | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:41 bumatlarge wrote: I could possibly be royally fucked right now... :X How? | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:44 kevconsim wrote: im waiting to vote untill i hear more info about what has happened between people in IG and the information between Bum and Gmarshal What do you need to hear? Bum and his 3 other cops called him scum. Coags bussed shot called him scum. Why are you scum? | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:47 Tackster wrote: When i flip green then the first thing red are going to do tomorrow night are kill the remaining greens. As this goes in chronologically if they do it at a few seconds after the vote (which they'll be ready for as they know who has the most votes). 2 greens + 2 red KP = scum win the IG... I wouldn't put any money on that. After you're lynched town wins IG. | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:49 tnkted wrote: What I want to know is why they didn't kill lemon.. it sounds like red used their shot on annul and coag's shot was moved to annul. Black used their shot on GM because it makes sense that they wouldn't shoot into the IG. That leaves one red shot left. Why isn't lemon dead? That must have been the failed shot.. looks like blues managed to save lemon last night. Good job blues! Simple answer is Lemon is bullet proof. The only one in the game that was going to steal anything was Tack. He stole my band aid. To ensure he didn't die he stole my item and another scummy parked a bus driver on him. Just in case I lied. I lied. Plan worked. Town wins IG. YES INSANIOUS I FUCKING LIED!!!!!!!!! | ||
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On March 28 2011 11:55 ilovejonn wrote: Also Jackal for the Item game they PM you who stole your items right? As in they tell you the person who visited you? Nope just that it was stolen. | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:07 tnkted wrote: Wait, what is the vest? and what is tacks item? Maybe tacks item is something that transfers hits similar to a bus? Tack has a mood ring. | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:15 tnkted wrote: so... wait a minute. the post said that only one person got their item off. That means that lemon couldn't possibly have been able to use his item. So what happened to his item? he must have either stolen somebody elses or have had his vest stolen. That means that 1. jackals item was stolen 2. coag used his item. 3. darms item is RNG'd to one of you, and annuls is gone 4. Lemons must have either stolen or been stolen from. When you read this: Lemon what happened to your item last night? He used it. Passive protection. He still has it. Coag still has his gun. It's not a fire and forget it's his unless somebody steals it from him. I have no idea how you came to conclusion #4 | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:16 chaoser wrote: Seriously you and Coag need to write things out more clearly -_- You said you had a gun and would probs use it on Tack. Tack wanted to steal the gun so you wouldn't shoot him. It was a lie and instead Coag had the gun. He shot Tack. Mafia didn't want to take chances so they bussed Tack. Is that what you're saying? If so, in that case, didn't Coag claim he had a stun gun or something way early in the thread? Didn't you claim you had a band aid? I never mentioned what I had. I claimed I had a gun. And yes that is what I am saying. Here let me put it together chronologically. Coag I have a plan. Here it is. 1 I make a post claiming you I and LW are town. 2 We lynch one of the other 3. 3 If he's red it's going to take longer to win IG. 4If he's green it's going to take much longer. 5 If he's black we win IG on night 2 6 I claim I have gun repeatedly. 7 I create shit storm around me to find who defends scum who doesn't End of part 1 8 Annul quit game. 9 We all use our items. 10 Tack steal from me. 11 Coag shoots Tack If it wasn't for those damn meddling kids in their bus we would have pulled it off flawlessly. Now we have to use a lynch. | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:21 tnkted wrote: says right there that lemon wasn't able to use their item. Either that or the gun never went off. All kinds of people in this game might have items. | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:23 CubEdIn wrote: landmark post you guys write too much. what if coag is lying and after we lynch tack mafia kills jackal and lemon. are you two guys willing to take that risk? What if your legs grow together? | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:28 CubEdIn wrote: @Insaneous, fair enough, but why did Tack not die then? If he were vet he'd have claimed so by now. Bus driver. There are no blues in the item game. | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:34 tnkted wrote: Assuming we can trust coag (i believe we can) Town still has our KP. Assuming we can trust jackal (i'm not certain about this) Town lost some bandanges (sounds like medic power). That means that mafia (NOT BLACK) has the ability to protect themselves. If tack isn't lynched, and he is the one who stole the item, we can be sure that he will be immune to a night kill. Yes you can use the bandages to self protect. That's what I was doing when they got stolen. How the fuck can you still doubt I'm town? Have you ever seen scum put their dick on the line on day 1 like I did? | ||
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On March 28 2011 12:35 Lanaia wrote: Logically, we should be asking tackster what he did last niht, shouldn't we? You don't ask scum questions. You kill them. | ||
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RoL your defense of Tack is admirable. But it leads me to ask a question. Annul posted his PMs with tack when he thought you killed him. Inside those PMs was an apparent slip in Tack stating he received a PM from you. He attempted to explain his error as being a noob. Then you posted this little gem: On March 28 2011 00:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Err if you would like, I can just confirm I never sent you a PM. When I was reading that I was like "Why is this guy fake claiming I PMed him?" Now that in and of itself doesn't say much. But what speaks volumes is the fact that you made a couple posts before you saw fit to tell us your confirmation. You didn't say anything about it until it was being pushed hard by myself and chaoser. My question is why didn't you call bs on this as soon as you saw it? Why did you wait until it became an issue? The only reason I can think of is you were hoping it would go away on it's own. Now your epic defense of your scumbuddy continues. First you call him a fake and now he's your bestest friend. RoL + Tack = Scum | ||
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And you're right. I don't let go. XXXVII - Had the last 3 scum nailed. Nailed all of your asses to a tree. My incessant pounding of that point was through PMs though. Not so much in the game. Town wins XXXVI - CubeDin and Divinek - Nailed them. Would not let go. Town wins. No Guts No Glory - Named the entire scum team right before I died. If I had lived damn straight I would not have let go. You know why Mafia rapes town here? Because you guys are so damn terrified of being wrong you can't do anything. As soon as somebody say "lets do something" You all go OK and then when the doing gets started you all develop paralysis by analysis. You're terrified you might get it wrong. Well guess what. If I get it wrong I get it wrong. I'm not afraid of fucking up. Fear is how scum plays. When town plays that way town loses. I have no fucking intentions of losing because I can't come up with a plan of action and stick to it. I have no intentions of losing because I'm too goddamned afraid I might make a mistake. If that's tunneling so be it. If that's not the way this game has ever been played here before so be it. That's how I play now, that's how I'll play tomorrow. And yes sometimes I'm going to get it wrong and kill a townie. Shit happens. You guys lynch townies all day long without my help. When you guys do it it's because you're afraid you might be wrong. And it's amazing how similar Tacks defense has been to your last day in XXXVII. You're coaching him well. | ||
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On March 28 2011 21:59 Rean wrote: I love the silence when I ask you to give reasons for your blind tunneling. You really are just randomly gambling and hoping you get lucky, aren't you? I promised 2 out of 3. 1 down 1 to go. Tack is scum. If I got there by hook or by crook or just dumb luck it doesn't really matter. What are your reasons for presenting a multitude of what if scenarios and pointless circular arguments? I have a destination. You have nothing. | ||
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On March 28 2011 22:20 Rean wrote: Who do you think people are going to believe, the guy giving arguments, reasons and explanations as motivation to have Lemon lynched, or the guy blindly tunneling Tackster constantly saying "dw guys, he's defo scum, just trust me" not giving anyone any reason to trust him? Coag shot Tackster Tackster stole my item because he thought it was a gun. Tackster was protected by a bus driver. Tackster admits to his theft. If he were town why would he feel compelled to steal from me? But this has all been put out there before. Over and over again. You are either terrified of being wrong or scum. I'm leaning towards scum. | ||
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On March 28 2011 22:30 deconduo wrote: LOLOL You say you are going to shoot someone. They can stop it. You are surprised that they do? REALLY? What did you expect him to do, sit there all happy while you kill him? How is it scummy to TRY TO NOT DIE! It's the fact that he had assistance from a 3rd party to ensure his survival that nails him. I'm really enjoying all you guys outing yourselves. | ||
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On March 28 2011 22:38 Rean wrote: Regarding the stealing: as both red and green he would have a reason to stay alive. As red because obviously he would want to win his team the item-game. As green because him dying would bring it to a 4 player scenario, where one day lynch and a double night-hit could decide the item game. As town he couldn't have known he was gonna get bussed so he would've assumed that there would still be 5 players. Conclusion: regardless of Tackster's alignment, he would've stolen your item. Your argument is worthless. If he were town he wouldn't have been bussed. He would have stolen my band aid and coag would have shot him and this whole damn thing would have been over with. But it's actually a good thing to watch and see who continues to defend him. | ||
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On March 28 2011 22:44 deconduo wrote: Why not? Pretend Tack is town and Lemon is the mafia. WHAT WOULD MAFIA DO? Don't avoid this question in any way. Just give me your honest opinion on what mafia would do. Let me shoot tack. Then I get lynched. | ||
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On March 28 2011 22:50 Rean wrote: Ok. Let's, for a second, imagine you're Lemonwalrus. You're mafia. You know this. Your only purpose in this game is to win your team the item-game, so obviously that's what you do. You know Jackal and Coagulation trust each other to be town. You've tricked both of them into thinking you're town (lord knows how), they're gonna shoot Tackster. They told Tackster that Jackal has a gun and he's gonna shoot Tackster with it, while Coagulation actually has the gun. You know this, because again, you have their trust. Annul got tricked by RoL into revealing he's town. So once Tackster dies and flips green, you know you're fucked. So you consult your mafia buddy's and make a plan. You bus Annul and Tackster, killing off Annul, keeping Tackster alive. Jackal and Coagulation will obviously blame Tackster, saying he had his buddies bus him away. If they get him lynched, it's down to a 3 man scenario at night, and since the only medic item is in the hands of Tackster, you can just kill both Jackal and Coagulation and it's game over, mafia wins the item game. The only problem left is DT checks. Since you obviously didn't elect your Godfather into the item-game (since he's guaranteed to die, and you need the Godfather to be able to win after the item-game), you decide to use the role-reversal of your teammate on yourself. Boom, DT will just check himself, and that problem is solved. The only mistake Lemon made was claiming that his item worked without being used, which does NOT fit in with every other item in this game, and is obviously a bullshit claim. You're walking blindly into his trap, Jackal. Show me where he made that claim. Seriously. I want to see it. | ||
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On March 28 2011 23:14 Jackal58 wrote: You just add that to fuck with us? EBWOP That was to LSB. | ||
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On March 28 2011 23:25 tnkted wrote: I'm still on page 14 but theres an important point that nobody has brought up yet: Scum thought that annul was using his bomb. Thats why the bussed coag to annul, not because they wanted annul gone or anything, but because they wanted coag to die. That assumes they knew coag was the shooter. For all intents and purposes they had to assume I was. | ||
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On March 28 2011 23:31 deconduo wrote: Situation 1: Lemon Tack Coag Jackal Situation 2: Lemon Coag Jackal Annul You are saying that Lemon would prefer to be in situation 2? You think he would find it easier to lynch you if it was situation 2 over lynching Tack in situation 1? Yes. Half of you guys are still convinced I'm scum anyways. | ||
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On March 29 2011 00:24 chaoser wrote: Also, why was annul shot twice? That's a question too...hmmm and @Jackal and @Coag, you said you would rethink your decision on who was mafia if new info came out. Bum came out with new info. Also LSB came out with the new info that apparently Annul stole the mood ring? Tackster, did this happen? Why weren't we informed earlier? Here's the list of questions I have that I'm thinking about: 1) Why did Tackster get bussed to annul? To get a double kill from annul's bomb? 2) Why was annul shot twice if Tackster was bus? To make sure annul was dead? 3) Why does annul have the mood ring and why didn't Tackster say he got it stolen? and finally 4) Why did LW show up as blue from a check? At this point I can no longer safely say that Tackster is beyond a doubt mafia so I'm going to read through LW and Tackster's posts. Plans are nice and all but at the end of the day post analysis is king. Every what Ver/BC/Ace have said about plans guys, town relies too much on them, post analysis is best. Also @Jackal and @Coag, tunnel a bit less and just take a step back. What if Bum's check on LW came up red? Would you say he got framed? You said you were open to new info but clearly at this point you're not since you continue to not only 1) push the issue even though weird info is coming up and 2) just claim everyone who is defending Tackster to be scum. Is that really advantageous for town? In the end we've just created an clusterfuck of a convo. Calm the fuck down and think about everything. Something is wrong, we need to figure it out. Let's not just say, nope, can't figure it out, BASH HEAD AGAINST TACK!!! I'm still waiting for bum to explain his 85% - 100% Tack is scum statement. | ||
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On March 29 2011 00:48 chaoser wrote: Yeah, bum said he thought tack was scum I think. I'll go find the post Here ya go. + Show Spoiler + On March 28 2011 11:39 bumatlarge wrote: I have no idea about tackster, but I can tell you it has nothing to do with annul. Don't make baseless connections please. Tackster s most likely scum, but ranting and raving about things you don't know and throwing that "100%" around is NOT PRO-TOWN. Which is odd because this does confirm the rest of the IG players. Coagulation in a way is right and wrong. Let me put this as safely as possible. I know now tackster was protected, thank you coagulation. I am fairly certain it wasn't a town aligned person who did so. I am also very aware of why annul was shot by mafia, and I can't really comment more on that other then he dug his own grave, and scum benefited. Now coagulation, you may continue with your rant on why tackster is scum, because he is. On March 28 2011 11:58 bumatlarge wrote: I know that, but it will change my opinion from 85% to 100%. It has nothing to do with me not trusting you (but again what I get can change that) I need time to consult my chums. You asked me if I thought bum was blue. I have to assume he is blue or else our other 4 blues are morons. I'm going with bum is blue. Not sure he's competent though. Twinkle toes I think I'll read your post again for the 4th time before I call bull shit. | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:04 tnkted wrote: Alright guys. Prepare for EARTH SHATTERING REVELATIONS I know what happened last night. But first, a confession: I am the bus driver. Last might my action was to bus Bum and Lemon. I didn't know what item lemon had. I figured jackal was mafia and was going to shoot tack, while the rest of the mafia killed lemon and coag, thereby winning mafia the item game. I didn't know that jackal had died, and I didn't know that lemon was bulletproof. So the reason that bum's check came back as blue is because he was checking himself. Now, why would i switch bum and lemon, you might ask? Well, Bum is invincible. As long as his two bodyguards are alive he can't die. That means I could switch him with anyone and that person would live because all hits would be deflected off bum. Obviously I can't ever make this maneuver again because GM is dead and its too risky if the mafia gets the other bodyguard, but it was a good oneshot effort and would have won us the item game if mafia had tried to win it all at once. This maneuver had the happy side effect of confirming bum as blue, so yaay! I trust you again bum, I secretly figured you were scum for awhile. So if I am the only bus driver, what happened last night? It would be stupid for there to be two bus drivers in the game. How was coags kill switched to annul? Mind control. Coag was mind controlled to use his item on annul instead of on Tack. Thats why the post is written the way it is. I mean, read the damn thing. It's all about how he 'was confused as to why he was standing in front of annul'. Go read it again, it makes way more sense for it to be mind control. Also, the bus driver wouldn't have been mentioned elsewhere in the text if that had been what I did. Had that been my move, the bus driver wouldn't have been mentioned at all. You guys are also missing the fact that Kav claimed somebody hit him last night. Thats an extra KP we haven't accounted for: 1. towns kp used to kill tack, shifted to annul 2. another random kp used to kill annul 3. KP used on GM 4. KP that failed (look at the DP again) 5. KP used on kav??? Mafia's Plan Now before we delve into 5, lets examine 4 for a minute. GM is deader than a doornail. I have reason to believe that annuls role (outside of the item game) was bodyguard. I think last night the mafia hit GM and bum and used mind control to switch coags hit onto annul, therefore allowing them to kill the mayor and win the IG in one swoop. Coag would be dead due to the bomb, and the only people left in IG would be Jackal and Tack and Lemon. Mafia almost killed bum, and I accidentally saved him by switching him and lemon. 0_0 How fucking lucky did town get last night? We still haven't accounted for 5, or for the direction of black's kill. Black must have hit annul; that would explain why there were two kills in the same place. Why would black have hit annul? He was out of the item game, and everyone thought that annul's item was going to go off. I do not know this yet. I suspect bum has more ideas about this than I do. I do know that the reason why annul's item didn't go off is because he was stealing Tack's item during the night. That explains why annul has the mood ring and not Tack. Now for the KP used on kav. What happened? Lets look at this list again, and I'll show you what I think happened: 1. towns kp used to kill tack, shifted to annul 2. another random kp used to kill annul 3. KP used on GM 4. KP that failed There was no KP used on kav. There weren't enough KP in the game for that to happen. What happened was, my switch of lemon and bum saved bum's life from being ended and thats what the failed KP was: They managed to hit a bulletproof lemon instead of a suddenly weakened bum. Kav claimed a hit in order to A) bring himself into town's good graces and B) to stop anyone from wondering if Bum was the other target. Kav is Mafia Now who could possibly have orchastrated this plan from the mafia's perspective? such a person would 1. have to be in the item game 2. have to have known that coag was the one who was gonna hit Tack, not jackal The only people that fit both of those descriptions are Lemon, Jackal, and Coag. Lemon is probably clear thanks to my breadcrumbing plan from earlier. He could easily not be, however, probably thanks to myself switching him and bum and accidentally foiling the DT check (sorry!). Coag is definately a green thanks to breadcrumbing earlier. Therefore, the true battle of red is between Lemon and Jackal. Both of them have much to gain if town lynches Tack, and both of them already think that Tack is the mafia. The question is which one of them is more scum than the other, and which one is playing the other for a fool. Personally I believe Jackal is scum. I had a FOS on him early in the game and he hasn't done much to change my mind. He failed my breadcrumbing test after refusing to participate, he has tunnelled players multiple times, and chainsaw defended virtually every single accusation against him. This entire plan is exactly the sort of thing he'd cook up; killing everyone but himself and Tack and somebody that aggrees with him (lemon) and then convincing town that Tack had murdered everyone in the night and lynching him. Who do we see supporting jackal on this? Who is supporting jackal even after Bum accused lemon? Rean and Decon. Scum. Coag. Played for fool. Coag, you even said that the only person who could have fooled you was jackal. Its whats happening right now, don't you see?! If you have more info (ie, dt check) I would release it right now. Therefore, mafia list: Kav Rean Decon Jackal And bum, I'd be very very careful with how you act from now on. I suspect the rest of my bus driving will be blocked by red/black, so I won't be able to save your ass again. You're in the right game. | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:23 tnkted wrote: Ahh. Ok Well that could explain why Annul was hit twice; black dt checked him and thought he was red. It doesn't explain why they tried to hit bum though... Hmm.. @Coag: Who all knew what Lemon's item was? Really????? | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:26 Insanious wrote: annul was miller. So he would show up red to allignment checks... And when would these checks have occurred? | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:27 tnkted wrote: why do YOU think he was hit twice? And what do you mean I'm in the right game? Annul X 2 I meant for Tackster. Gmarshall X 1 Kav X 1 4 kp 4 shots. You're freaking insane. | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:28 deconduo wrote: How can someone DT check and shoot in one night? Black has 1 kp plus roles. Black shot GM and did an alignment check on annul. They got a red check back on a dead guy. Twinkles devises bs plan to end IG in a tie. No items to anybody. | ||
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On March 29 2011 01:59 Tackster wrote: I'm Baaacccckkkk!!! omggggggg.... Ok to be honest guys I'm really confused - i don't know all the roles in forum mafia (mind control?) and while I accept tnkteds bus theory i'm a bit confused as to the logic after it... So I'm going to read all this for like the third time and get back to you with one of my thought out posts that Jackal and Coag keep saying have no content... But the important thing: I did not know that mood ring had been stolen until I got a PM from LSB: This was sent to me at 22:54. My last post is at 20:17. I did not have this information at the time!! LSB posted the mood ring information out at 22:56 - 2 min after he PMd me. LSB can you please confirm for the game players that I was working off of incorrect information up until my last post? I think as I had no knowledge and this was an innocent mistake I should be cleared of any allegations that I hid the mood ring info from the game Well I hope that clears that up and I'll get back to analysis! I believe you on the mood ring. LSB is suspiciously close to LSD. Sometimes he forgets. | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:10 deconduo wrote: @Jackal, Coag How would the mind control ability affect your plan to confirm each other? Unless the scum element has managed to infiltrate my beer supply not very likely. I love how everybody is all aboard the mind control bus. | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:15 Rean wrote: Their entire plan was probably based on them breadcumbing townie pm's to each other to confirm that they're town. Breadcrumbs are so pedestrian. On March 29 2011 02:17 Tackster wrote: All that doesn't matter anyway. Coag said that if I flipped green he would assume you were the red. therefore you haven't confirmed each other if it is possible for you to be red... Assuming you confirmed each other coag would have said lemon... You need to read this : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=8486681 | ||
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On March 29 2011 02:57 tnkted wrote: OK the alignment PMs worked like this (as far as I can tell): LSB pmed the "twiddle your thumbs, try to seem clean or something' alignment pm while kita pmed the 'sit tight' one. When I set up my breadcrumbing in my first few posts I was using my alignment PM, the twiddle your thumbs one. Coag, who had recieved kita's pm instead, breadcrumbed to me and I didn't notice since I only had knowledge of lsb's pm. So the sit tight phrase was not part of my plan at all. Therefore, the results of the PM breadcrumbs were: Lemon & annul, who recieved their PMs from LSB, immediately picked up my clues. Coag laid a breadcrumb of his own ('sit tight, i'll go over your posts') which i missed but insanious picked up on immediately, confirming them both Jackal refused to play Tack also dropped a 'sit tight' breadcrumb. However, tack dropped his sit tight breadcrumb after coag and insanious had already confirmed that was a clue word, so he could have just been clever. Tack isn't clear. Jackal isn't clear because he didn't play the game. Annuls alignment was mafia miller. Not townie. | ||
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On March 29 2011 03:55 iGrok wrote: It served a purpose. Whether to activate a plan or to breadcrumb, you won't know for now If you're laying breadcrumbs with a dead player I'd say you deserve to be mod killed right fucking now. | ||
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On March 29 2011 05:15 tnkted wrote: And does anyone else have a sinking feeling about iGrok's rook to e-5 post? Apparently its a game-related post... Ruh roh. I think iGrok just activated something. He was spamming. | ||
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On March 29 2011 06:44 chaoser wrote:Thank you, what I've been saying all of today -_-. We got the tools needed to make sure we have a very good chance of winning the game, whether Tack is green or not (at this point I still think he's red). Mafia can get into a little role and KP dance with us if they want but if they don't do it right they lose big. There's a vest in there not to mention tnkt as a bus driver and surely we got a few medics. We can win the IG. Mafia's fighting an uphill battle. Which is why I only really care for bum's circle response to all of this. So much this. Where the fuck is our mayor. Why is Tackster 100% scum then 85 - 100% scum. And wtf is the goddamn deal with Annul. I'm starting to think the only reason our mayor is blue is because he's still holding his breath hoping we all still fall for his bs. WTF bum. You're the goddamn mayor start fucking acting like one. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:11 BrownBear wrote: Okay, good. Your post sounded very ragequit-y, which got me worried. Glad to hear you're still with us I wouldn't let him quit. He got me in this mess if he quit I'd kick his ass. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:21 deconduo wrote: Theres a very strong case for the mafia to be either Lemon or Jackal. I think its Lemon. Would you at least not be as blind/stubborn as Jackal and think about it? The facts are there. I don't know why the two of you are so narrow minded but it really isn't helping the slightest. You have no case against Tack whatsoever and you refuse to admit it. When Tack flips town it will be too late, and chances are you'll have cost us the entire game. You're still pissed at me because I cost you XXXVII. I voted no on replacements. I'm willing to give them another day. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:29 bumatlarge wrote: Nice tnk, that explains a lot. Let's see what I can do. My DT: Checked Lemon, switched with me and came back as that. Makes perfect sense because that is my role. I believe that explains any FoS we could have had against him. He is no longer a suspect. I WAS NOT HIT LAST NIGHT Scum KP: Red's hit annul. Simple as that, I could explain it but then I would have to kill you. Black/red hit GMarshal and Kav. Kav is alive, GMarshal is dead. Coag KP: Used on tackster. Did not die. Bus already used, so he had to be protected. He clearly did not use his item, because coagulation says he did, which was the only item used, plus tackster should have claimed he used the item. IIRC, he never claimed a hit. If you want to live tackster you need to answer this post. Lemon is no longer a bigger suspect then you. Bullshit. I have my fucking dick stretched across half the globe to win the IG and ultimately the entire game for town and that's the best you can do??? Bullshit. And explain the Tack is 100% scum to 85 - 100% scum to now you're looking scummier than LW. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:39 chaoser wrote: Ok you need to calm down...pretty sure bum isn't scum by this point. The fact that you're suggesting it shows that you need to chill the fuck out. Blues not claiming at this point would be pretty fail and we would deserve to lose. I'm not accusing him of being scum. I'm accusing him of being incompetent. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:41 Lanaia wrote: No, we wouldn't deserve to lose, the blues would. However, you're right in saying that Jackal needs to calm down. Jackal, bud, go take a nap or a nice bubble bath or something. Only scum hide their junk in bubbles. But seriously. I have put my neck out as far as it can go and bum comes up with a bs line from Top Gun. Sorry but I have some shit invested in this. | ||
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On March 29 2011 09:41 bumatlarge wrote: :X my brain is fried. I meant tackster having the vest, but LW has had it the entire game? Sigh man, either way it doesn't matter about the vest because I was wrong about it. Is coagulation around? Just explain the Tackster is 100% scum and then the downgrading. | ||
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On March 29 2011 22:03 OriginalName wrote: Im not claiming med by any means but wouldbt Kav be a half decent choice for med protection as Bum has BGs and RoL has been playing a rather quiet game for himself (Do note this is exactly why I did not shoot him DF mafia) So while possible doesnt it seem unlikely? If you are med protected you don't get told you were hit. Medic is informed. | ||
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Just stated he was hit. So if you are vet and get hit you turn into a zombie. Unless not all vets have the same reaction to a hit? We know blacks are bullet proof. (That sounds so KKK to me) So if a black was hit why claim it? What other mechanisms or roles may be in place that allow a player to absorb a hit and be notified that they were indeed shot? | ||
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On March 30 2011 00:59 chaoser wrote: please don't end up like ~OpZ~... ???? | ||
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On March 30 2011 01:09 Tackster wrote: Lastly my special info from LSB: I don't know if everyone else assumed this - I know I didn't. The reason I'm outing this is that if green/red think that they are going to lose they can try to draw and stop anyone having an advantage. The reason I didn't want to mention this is in case black tried to break the IG. I'm mentioning it now because now: - We have to medic who we think is green tonight at all costs - If anything weird happens tonight remember we can always try to draw instead of losing! LSB has already posted that in the thread. No secret. | ||
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On March 30 2011 01:11 chaoser wrote: posting like five hundred posts? get banned? Ahh. Had no idea. | ||
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On March 30 2011 02:16 Tackster wrote: People are discussing whether or not Kav is black... This stun-gun scenario makes no sense. Why won't people address that instead???? And CubEdIn I figured it makes sense to vote Lemon instead. I just think that Jackal is mafia and wanted to leave no confusion for tomorrow. So what I'll do is this- I'm voting Lemon for now and hoping people ACTUALLY CHECK THIS STUN GUN SCENARIO. It doesn't make sense. I'm a green and you are very capable of coming to that conclusion if you check for yourself instead of trusting to posts that reference others WRONG. If i am lynched tonight when I flip green remember that we need to read into both Lemon AND Jackal. I still think what happened earlier points to Jackal. In fact even though i'm quite certain coagulation is probably green no one can be certain. CHECK THINGS don't get lazy... I fully expect to die tonight no matter what color you flip. You stole my band aid you bastard. | ||
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On March 30 2011 03:41 Tackster wrote: My first experience of forum mafia includes: Jackals 'great' tunnel based on a plan that made no sense… coags incessant deafness and his willingness to accept confirmations that weren't real… And now bum using his position as leader to make mistakes and then laugh in the face of them… I know I can be wrong and hardly expect everyone to agree with me but the way some of these debates have gone... A lot of the people in here seem like fun and there have been some laughs, absolutely. But the way the game is being played… I'm feeling a little put off tbh. Did everyone feel this at first or what? My first two games were very off putting. But it gets better. For what it's worth you are a very good mafia player. I really hope you decide to play more. You're also not the first person I'm sure I have greatly frustrated. Pandain and CubeDin come immediately to mind. But it's just a game. There is nothing personal in it. There are no attacks meant to be against you as a person. Yes, you as a player of the game but not you as a person. I hope you see the difference. If you play again we may be teamed up together in some way. So it's not really worth getting into somebodies shit on a people level. | ||
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On March 30 2011 03:53 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So, if we lynch incorrectly, what are the chances of actually salvaging the item game? We have a claimed bus driver, (Might not be as useful now), possibly medics, a KP, a Vest, and that's it? I'm just trying to figure out what we should do to prepare in case the shit hits the fan. If we do mislynch (don't think that's happening) but if we do then put a medic on coag. Lemon has his vest. Coag can shoot me and lynch lemon tomorrow. IG game is won. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:03 tnkted wrote: Tack if you're really innocent you will have a blast watching the game afterwards while LSB tells you whats really happening. Just look at how much fun GM is having! Meanwhile you can sign up for survivor mafia or something else thats coming up and have a good time playing that. And wiggles: I think thats a good idea to start thinking about what to do if we're wrong. If tack isn't the mafia, traditional logic dictates this: It means that coag, jackal, or lemon is mafia. Lemon I am convinced is clear thanks to the alignment pm breadcrumbing. Coag is probably clear as well. Therefore Jackal would have to be the mafia. Yes? Read post immediately above you. | ||
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You already fucked us out of an alignment check trying to play hero. | ||
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I said it with love. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:15 tnkted wrote: If we do mislynch I think I have to bus somebody out so that we have a chance of winning it at all. But if bum wants me not to I can switch some other stuff around. If you must bus bus all actions from Coag to me. Lemon has his vest but if we mislynch he wont get shot anyways. Cause he's scum. And serious as a heart attack I will have coag shoot me. Town doesn't need another fucking day of no you - no you - no you - no you. So medic protect coag. Bus from coag to me. Coag shoots me. Lynch Lemon. I am not about to go through all this bs and let scum get dt tools. But we're not going to mislynch. But that's plan B | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:17 deconduo wrote: The fact that the votes are 22-2 should be a clear indication that you are wrong, but hey. Ya that was bothering me too. But in XXXVII you guys all voted enmasse for each other as well. So I'm not sure exactly what to read into that anymore. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:22 iGrok wrote: no. Bus Jackal to someone outside of the IG. Medic Coag. Scum | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:25 deconduo wrote: I'm the only person not voting for Tack. The other vote is from Tack himself. Believe it or not I can read. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:25 Tackster wrote: Sorry if coag shoots you and you two are bussed coag shoots himself. wtf is that? No any outside IG shots on Coag go to me. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:25 Tackster wrote: Sorry if coag shoots you and you two are bussed coag shoots himself. wtf is that? Bus driver doesn't reverse actions. It drives any visits to coag to the bussed target - me. It doesn't boomerang. | ||
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On March 30 2011 04:30 deconduo wrote: Actions on coag get moved to you. Actions on you get moved to coag. Actions on you: Getting shot Actions on coag: Getting mediced. Result: Coag dies, you get medic protection. Bus is one way. Any visits to Coag would go to me. Including medic so ya let's not do that. Actions on me do not go to Coag. | ||
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On March 30 2011 05:19 CubEdIn wrote: I'm honestly thinking of trying to convince everyone to move their lynch to Lemon. I'm honestly thinking about asking tnkted to marry me. | ||
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On March 30 2011 05:34 Kavdragon wrote: + Show Spoiler + Bum, I say this to you because you have the people's ear, regardless of whether they respect that ear or not. Hopefully you can get them to understand. In XXXVI I was positive that Impervious was scum. I did an analysis on him, and he it looked like a closed case to me. However, as the votes fell, there was very little resistance to his lynch. I still thought that he looked scummy, but I couldn't ignore the evidence that was in the votes. This looks very similar to me. Deconduo is totally right on this. The fact that the votes are so lopsided should be a big hint. Yes, it's possible that they are busing him, but it still looks really odd, and I don't feel comfortable with this lynch anymore. Look at Tackster's defense. He's put a tremendous amount of effort into it, even though the town shows no sign of relenting. I can't think of a scum player who has put more effort into his defense in the face of such odds, especially not a new one. In my experience, most of them defend themselves a little, but mostly they just clam up. Now let me be clear about what I'm saying here: I am NOT refuting the points against Tackster, I am pointing out that his response, and the votes both point to him being town. In light of this, and the fact that we are at mylo in the IG, I suggest that we not lynch Tackster today. I suggest we lynch Kenpachi, who is clearly scum. + Show Spoiler + On a side note, Deconduo brought up some really good points about lemon walrus, and everyone is ignoring them. His defense is almost as persistent as decons on the last day of XXXVII. Only real diiference is there were only 3 of them left or else it would have eaten up 50 pages as well. | ||
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On March 30 2011 06:19 GGQ wrote: I could live with the voting list being entirely one-sided. It's not worthwhile for mafia to out their whole team just on the chance that they might not be eliminated from the item game quite yet. But the fact that jackal isn't spamming like an asshole makes me nervous. I was driving home from work. Sorry but I don't surf while I'm driving. It's hard enough to drink and smoke. And I'm going bowling. It's Tuesday night. I bowl on Tuesday night. I know how much of a scum tell that is but I'm going anyways. Oh wait. Barundar's not in this game. And sorry Twinkles but the engagement is canceled. You simply don't trust me enough. | ||
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This is why town gets ass raped by scum all the time. You people are to goddamned afraid of being wrong to do anything. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:06 CubEdIn wrote: Come on guys, you have to admit that was hella fun! Constantly being called an idiot is hella fun. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:10 CubEdIn wrote: @Jackal: Not by your friends, the boys in blue, pal! See that's the thing. It really doesn't matter who I pissed off. It doesn't really matter who gets lynched. I know Coag is town Lynching Lemon or Tack doesn't matter. Kill me tonight protect Coag. How that happens I don't really give a shit. If Tack flips green it doesn't matter. Kill me protect Coag. Town wins items. I don't give two shits if I live or not. I refuse to allow scum to have DT items. They get them they will win. Scum will not win any game I'm in if I can do anything to prevent it. Sorry Tack. But the sad truth is I don't care what your alignment is. I know Coag is town. Either you or Lemon need to die. Coag believes Lemon is town. I can't get his support if I threw Lemons name against the wall to see what sticks so I threw yours. It's not personal. Hell it probably doesn't even seem logical. But it is. I need one of you to die. I didn't really care which of you it was. I didn't really care how that person would flip. What I do care about is town winning. I'm town. I refuse to lose as town. I've done pretty fucking good making town win over my last 3 games. I've also pissed off alot of townies and scum doing it. I don't care. The mantra is "Play to win" The mantra isn't "Play not to lose" The difference is balls. After tomorrows day post kill whoever isn't coag if Tack flips green | ||
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Damn me for not waiting. Protect Coag. Kill me Lynch Lemon. I'm going to bed. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:25 Coagulation wrote: little late Fuck you Mr Lemon is green. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:26 bumatlarge wrote: XD Well let me throw together a list again? 1. RebirthOfLeGenD - Scum? 2. Jackal58 - Town 3. OriginalName -Town 4. Kenpachi - Scum 5. deconduo - Town 6. Kavdragon - Town 7. darmousseh Day 1 lynch 8. bumatlarge - Town 9. GMarshal Night 1 Kill 10. Coagulation - Town 11. orgolove - Scum 12. chaoser - Town 13. Meapak_Ziphh - Town? 14. annul Night 1 Kill 15. kevconsim - Town 16. Mr. Wiggles - Town 17. CubEdIn - Town 18. GGQ - Town? 19. ilovejonn - town? 20. Amber[LighT] - scum? 21. BrownBear - scum? 22. Lemonwalrus - Scum 23. Rean - Town 24. tnkted - Town 25. Tackster Day 2 lynch 26. Lanaia - Town 27. iGrok - Town? 28. Beneather - SCUM? 29. Insanious - SCUM? 30. Eiii - SCUM? Town is interchangeable with black at the moment. I'm willing to ignore their predicament to net a few red kills, as they are the immediate threat. I just threw this together off the vote list, and game knoqledge. If Tack flipped red I'd agree with RoL. But he didn't | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:27 ilovejonn wrote: Maybe if you and Coag used some fucking LOGIC and ANALYZED and switched your votes to LEMON we could have killed scum AND have 1 extra townie alive. You don't care this you don't care that, fucking ridiculous. I just got home or I may very well have. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:29 Coagulation wrote: what can i say. he completely pulled one over on me. kudos to him. Don't say a fucking thing. I told you. I'm going to fucking punch you. | ||
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Coag is town It doesn't matter what I am. You won't believe me at any rate. Keep Coag alive. Whatever anybody has to do keep Coag alive. LW is the scum. Shoot me Coag. Scum cannot get DT items. Sorry guys. I threw a name against the wall to see what happened. A lot of shit happened. You have a ton of shit to analyze. Please Coag kill me. I can't invest another day into this bull shit. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:34 Insanious wrote: Why are people so violent in this game... Coag was swearing and calling people names all game, now I am a dickwad . That hurt my feelings. I'm a moron. Fuck you dickwad. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:39 ilovejonn wrote: Yea, the bullshit you created and now you want out of this mess. I want town to win. Period. If some goddamned bus driver hadn't try to be hero we wouldn't fucking be here. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:41 Insanious wrote: :'( jackal, i thought we had a thing... it was a love hate relationship... mostly hate, but it was something. Now you're just throwing it all away, I can't believe you. *storms off into the rainy night* We still do. Here take this umbrella.. | ||
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On March 30 2011 11:44 chaoser wrote: Not to mention it was that same bus driver not only protected LW from a hit by bussing him to Bum but also by "confirming" him cause of breadcrumbs. Fuck his breadcrumbs. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:01 bumatlarge wrote: Jackal fuhgitaboutit you a goodfella, you wiseguy I'm not forgetting about it. I'm pissed. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:03 Lemonwalrus wrote: Coag why aren't you showing the PMs that I was responding to when I sent those? I'm gonna dump all my PMs later. Doesn't matter though I'm not surviving the night. We lost the item game when we lynched tack, I sheeped to jackal and coag's plan all along and didn't realize it was a scum plan until now. We have 2 dead townies to show for their plan, and somehow I'm still the main suspect. You guys are getting played by either jackal or coag (at this point I can't tell which one). I fell for it too, but I'm a newbie. What is your excuse? You're going to survive the night. And you just told me in a PM I'm the scum. Koo koo ka choo mother fucker. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:27 Lemonwalrus wrote: Also coag, if you are really 50/50, why did I get a PM dump and jackal didn't? Because he doesn't fucking have any. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:33 Lemonwalrus wrote: I'm not red and i'm not fake you guys are about to incur ragewalrus you won't like ragewalrus Bring it scum. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:36 Lemonwalrus wrote: So I'm supposed to believe you guys made this elaborate plan of yours using smoke signals? Yes. I sent him smoke signals yesterday telling him you were scum He sent me smoke signals back saying "no he isn't". I know Coag is town so I deferred to his faith in you. Scum | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:42 tnkted wrote: Just a quick question: why are we suspecting lemon over jackal? I don't care if you suspect me or not. Shoot me. Lynch me. Just keep coag alive. | ||
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On March 30 2011 12:52 OriginalName wrote: hey Jack why is it that whenever you end up tunneling a townie and they die you just go all emo and quit. Its kinda detremental to your play and makes you seem really emo. I'm not getting fucking emo. I don't care it Tack died. I don't care that I was wrong. All I care about is keeping items from scum. The only way that can be accomplished is for me to die and then lynch Lemon. I'm green. I need to prove that to town. The only way I can do that is to die. Coag is green. The only way that can be proven is if he dies. Keep Coag alive and lynch Lemon. Scum doesn't get IG items. Red needs them to find the black team. I will not reveal how I know Coag is town. Let's just say my meta on him is exponentially greater that anybody elses. | ||
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On March 30 2011 13:04 ilovejonn wrote: yo lets kill all of them, red doesnt get any items and we get to confirm all 3 players. im fkn pro right? I'm down with that. | ||
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On March 30 2011 13:25 Lanaia wrote: The vest thing is what really made me switch my vote. We couldn't just vig LW when Tack flipped scum. We can't. Besides Lemon's scummy-as-all-hell behaviour, he couldn't be killed at night. Wait,... WAIT. Someone could totally steal his vest tonight, no? Then, we could get him vigged. (Obviously, this only works if he's mafia.) But, if we vig LW and he's not scum... then we lose? Jackal, why do you want to die? Part of me thinks you're scum giving up (I do that sometimes). I don't know your play well, so I can't make a full judgment there, but it seems to me you could technically be scum. But... don't give up. I feel you legitimately care about the item game still which leads me to believe you're town, especially moreso that LW. Right... what Mr.Wiggles said about having both Jackal and LW die tonight would be good (I don't see how we can make that happen unless we get a scum faction to help us out. Obv the mafia faction won't help out and it wouldn't be in black's best interests, would it? Sorry guys, this is kind of a stream-of-consciousness. PMS is affecting the logical part of my brain. Lemon has a bullet proof vest. I don't know all the mechanics of his item but the easiest of the two of us to kill is me. Decon kiss my ass. If tackster wasn't your room mate you wouldn't give two shits. Dumb and dumber indeed Mr I'll bus my entire Mafia team cause they think I'm town. | ||
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On March 30 2011 23:23 tnkted wrote: I am still extremely concerned with iGrok's rook to E-5 statement from earlier... Why has everyone apparently forgotten about that? WTF was that about? If it was about anything it would have happened in the night post. | ||
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Good luck. Good by. | ||
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On April 01 2011 05:36 OriginalName wrote: Coag now that were in a quiet section can i ask wtf you were thinking when you read tack scum and walrus red? Just 'Gutread' really shouldnt of pushed you into that kind of frenzy :/ Coag didn't push it I did. I pushed it because one of them had to die and Coag was convinced LW was town. Hence the "Tack would be an easier lynch" statement. It wasn't easier because you guys would buy it it was easier because I could sell it to Coag. Bottom line was one of them had to die. I didn't care which one. I'm not a dumb tunneler. I'm just a son of a bitch. | ||
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On April 01 2011 15:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I know jackal quit Jackal just stfu like he was told to. | ||
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1 gun 1 bandage 1 bullet proof vest Potato of death is gone. | ||
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On April 02 2011 04:16 GGQ wrote: There's two dt items, one that gives roles and one that gives alignment. Forgot about annuls. | ||
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On April 02 2011 11:16 LSB Banking wrote: I gave you sweet loot. Now are you happy? I'm always happy. Except when I'm not. Other than those moments I'm always happy. | ||
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On April 02 2011 11:21 Tackster wrote: [ghostly voice] Have fun playing with the bandages!!! [/ghostly voice] Begone foul demon. | ||
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On April 02 2011 11:21 GGQ wrote: Which items did you guys each get? I don't think putting that info out at this point in time would be prudent. I will say I have easier choices to make than coag. | ||
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Is the vest still in play? | ||
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On April 02 2011 16:43 Kavdragon wrote: Hmm. This is a good point. I don't remember playing with him, so if there's a meta history that I'm missing, please let me know. If he's referring to Kevconsim his play has been similar to XXXVII. That was his first game so this should be his second. The biggest difference is he actually offered some analysis in this game: + Show Spoiler + On March 27 2011 15:42 kevconsim wrote: im going to make a read. On March 27 2011 15:42 kevconsim wrote: I think Annul is/was town. Because he said gl town as he is dieng I have no idea whether he is scum or not. I guess all I'm saying is I wouldn't base it upon his limited number of posts. His activity level never really increased in XXXVII even though he was in the final 3 with GM and decon. I do know that he was online a fair amount in that game because he responded to all of my PMs in a timely manner. He just didn't post. | ||
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1) Bum 2) Cube 3) Coag IG obv 4) Jackal ^ 5) Eiii plus Insanious is most likely town. deconduo is most likely town. After that just bare in mind that the black team is going to play as town. They have no idea who red is any more than the rest of us. Allows them to analyze. Allows them to post their analysis. Allows them a very solid town read. Be very wary of solid analysis. They might be right. But that doesn't mean they are town. | ||
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Just like a woman. Don't kill me. | ||
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On April 03 2011 11:12 Lanaia wrote: I very much appreciate this. Hopefully you don't die! Well I don't just rifle though a lasses underwear drawer and tell everybody what I found. That's no way to court a lady. | ||
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On April 03 2011 11:37 Lanaia wrote: Hahahahaha. I'm much obliged. May I ask, did it give you the full PM or just the name? I won't ask you how old you are if you don't ask me what all was in my PM. | ||
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On April 03 2011 11:55 Coagulation wrote: jackal you should post the DT Check. I'd prefer not to atm. I will say it's probably not a good idea to lynch her. At least not today. | ||
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On April 03 2011 17:27 Kavdragon wrote: Looks like I'm not long for this world, so here's my last push. Based off the information we now have from the black market, it is apparent that blacks are ahead. We need to know more about the items they now posses. Firstly, Cubedin, you guys had the RPG's, can you confirm that they are a KP? Is there anything special about them? Second, do we know how many vests there are? Regardless, it seems very unlikely that will be able to kill blacks with KP other than lynches. On that note, our NUMBER ONE priority is to LYNCH BLACKS. Thankfully LSB gave us a beautiful gift: the double lynch that is the Arena. Now, as long as you guys concentrate on using the lynch for Blacks, and using your Night KP for reds, we can still pull out a town victory. Town came from behind with some solid analysis and good hunting in XXXVI, and we can do the same thing and win here. However, this will require effort on everyone's part. Now, I've been thinking about blacks since Meapak died. I defended him because he was doing analysis, but he was on my black list also. Now that he's flipped red, I've had to re-evaluate how the black team is likely to play. Meapak and I were the two people doing analysis, and he flipped red, and I know that I'm green. I cannot accept the heuristic that I have been using for black any longer. There's a crucial problem that I hadn't thought of: SK's are super pro-town because they HAVE to survive till the end, and they cannot be roleblocked. This means that they must avoid the lynch at all costs. This game is much different than that, because they have a team of players, who can influence and help. This makes them similar to a mafia team, with less members but with BPV's to make up for that. It seems to me, that this game will function more like a game with two mafia families in it. So how do we figure out the mafia from the blacks if they are both acting like mafia? The first way that i can think of is analysis on the connections between known scum. I don't mean things as obvious as support/callingout, these things could be set up of course, I'm talking about the tone people take with others, do they FoS some people differently than others? Find unusual connections. The second way is back checking people to see if they were making decisions or revealing information that they shouldn't have. For instance, assuming that the blacks actually gave us the names of scum, we know that they knew that before hand. Was anyone overly suspicious of Amberlight and Orgolove? Did they have good reasoning as to why they were their number one suspects? Assuming that bombs do NOT kill blacks, lynching ilovejohn seems like a bad idea at this point. Heh. Call me scum for opposing your plan, but i don't care I'm going to die in few hours and you'll see. As a townie, I will say that lynching ilovejohn is the wrong call right now. We need to lynch blacks, and if bombs can't do that, then we should have Coag shoot him or something. It's 4-3 right now, and if we kill many more scum, the balance will be upset badly. CubEdIn is dead on when he says we need to whittle them down evenly. The only way that we can realistically kill black is by lynch now, this means that they are practically guaranteed to survive for three more days, and every day we don't lynch one extends that. I wish I had more time to do analysis, but since I've been cut short, I'll simply say that i suspect Tnkted is black, and I suspect that Lanaia is also black. Meapak did analysis and he was scum. This does not mean that analysis is scummy. Analysis is, and always will be the key to victory, and I hope you guys start using it more. GL town, looks like you'll be needing it. Lanaia is almost 100% definitely not black. She may have a separate win condition than town but she is not black. Put a bomb on Pandain. | ||
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If she wishes to disclose it that's on her. I'm waiting a bit to see if any of the mechanics of her role reveal themselves. For right now I gotta believe it is not in towns best interest to put that info into play. Not because it might get her killed but because it might cost town the game. Just don't lynch her or blow her ass up. | ||
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On April 04 2011 00:15 deconduo wrote: Well that confirms Kav as black lol. It also raises a bit of a conundrum. Blacks also appear to be blast proof. Do we let Ilovejohn blow up two more that possibly wont die or do we lynch Kav? | ||
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On April 04 2011 00:25 tnkted wrote: Wait a minute, im confused on johns role. he has to die during the day? why not die at night? if one of the bombs is pointed at a red all we have to do is make sure that i switch myself to nullify MC and the red dies. John should live to tomorrow because mafia won't want to kill him. Hmm... black would though... do we have any other ways to protect him? + Show Spoiler + On April 03 2011 14:54 ilovejonn wrote: Or we can... Lynch me today! Remember this? Night was coming in and I fear that I would have died therefore I placed my bombs during that time. Coincidentally it was A.pril F.ools and I said "great post" in order for scum to not role block me and just night kill me. *I don't know why A.pril F.ools still auto changes since it's like April 3rd TL time* Who am I and Why trust me: My bombs can be ROLEBLOCKED and it will not go off. This is crucial. What this means is that in order to safely get my bombs off, getting lynched during the day is the best option. Since I'm a Day Hatter, I have to post in the thread about who to bomb, and if I really land one on a scum and they believe I'm hatter, they can just roleblock and night kill me. Basically, I am willing to sacrifice myself to kill two other people. Who those 2 may be is probably up to you guys to decide, BUT we clearly have a bunch of FOS'd and scummy players lurking about. Orgolove and Beneather were my first 2 targets. However, Beneather is now a Bot and is in the Arena. I am willing to let the Arena players deal with him. If they don't clearly it will make them look scummy. Here is my FOS list: 4. Kenpachi - Bomb target 6. Kavdragon - fos (black read) 11. orgolove - Bomb target 15. kevconsim - Bomb target 20. Amber[LighT] - FOS Bomb target 26. Lanaia - she's a girl FOS (this is jk don't atk me about this but if she's scum gg) 28. Beneather - Bomb target (now in Arena though) 30. Eiii - inactive FOS, Bomb target The others are editted out so don't ask me where 1. and 2. etc are. Now I feel that I want to keep Bomb#1 on Orgolove. You guys don't need to ask me why, ask yourselves and read their posts, I'm not sacrificing myself and doing analysis for you. #2 is up for debate because clearly there are more than 1 scum. It comes down to whether you guys want to plant the bomb on a RED player or a BLACK player. Amber has been lurking like crazy, Kenpachi plays like scum as always, kevconsim is playing like his first game where he doesn't know anything and doesn't post useful content at all. Kavdragon is hard to say, he can be town/black but I haven't seen him done great analysis and lead the town like he did in that other mafia game where he was Mayor. My gut tells me he's black because even though he seems quite pro-town, his posts to me, seem like they are holding back a lot. Then there's Eiii and Lanaia. If it were my choice, it would be Bomb1: Orgolove, Bomb2: kevconsim/Kenpachi. As someone said before (forgot who), we don't want a guy who just posts 1-liners and doesn't contribute to go into late game. At least the others have understandable and coherent posts, but Kevconsim and Kenpachi sometimes types things that I don't even understand. Again the bomb targets are up for debate. On to the next part. Vote me and be safe! If we are going to make this work, EVERYONE needs to vote me. Of course if you're town-aligned you should vote for me, but what about scum you say? Well, since I outted myself for this whole bomb thing to happen, if there's someone that doesn't want to vote for me, BAM instant-FOS. This is a fool-proof plan but if even townies don't vote for me then I'm done. Here is what I mean. I've placed the black market votings into consideration. There are 19 players left, 12 are green, 7 are scum (red/black). Clearly the scum won't want to vote for someone else other than me as it places them into a clear FOS spot. The best situation is clearly having 19 votes on me ensuring that the bombs go off. I do not believe that they have enough of their Krodon? currency to place 20 anonymous votes on me, and even if they do fine, you've just used all of those precious key voting powers on a single townie. Conclusion Remember what I said, if you're green vote for me. If you're not go ahead and vote someone else and see if you get lynched the next day or not. I dare you, scum. ò_ó As time goes on and more people die during the night, I feel that my chances of getting myself lynched decreases. I felt like this was the best time to reveal all this now, and well, if you guys don't like this, then I'm fucked. I'm going to place my bombs on my preferred targets for now in case anything IRL comes up like my Internet dying or something. We still have plenty of time however. Bomb1: Orgolove Bomb2: kevconsim Also, if you thought of something that would ruin my plans, please tell me because I wrote this when I was really sleepy. I repeat, bomb targets ARE UP FOR DEBATE DEBATE DEBATE! He has rather committed himself no? | ||
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On April 04 2011 00:45 LSB Banking wrote: Bot Message Beneather says: Guess my favorite item! I’ll give you a few clues.
A bus? | ||
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On April 04 2011 00:57 deconduo wrote: Yeah that confirms him as another black. Rean is probably the last one? Could be you as well. | ||
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On April 04 2011 02:30 Lanaia wrote: Wait... Are we lynching him to explode people or are we lynching kav... That is the question we need to discuss. Do we lynch Kav? Or do we lynch Ilovejohn? If we lynch Kav then we risk losing John to a night kill and having his bombs role blocked. Then we don't know jack shit about what happened. If we lynch Ilovejohn it's more of a controlled demolition. The results are out in the open without any questions as to what happened. Kav will still be very much lynchable tomorrow. Of course we can lynch Kav today forcing both scum teams to either role block his bombs and kill him or just leave him alone all together and we get to do this all over again tomorrow. Advantages to both but if he does die at night we won't know if he verified more black team or if he was role blocked. I'm leaning more towards the controlled demolition atm. | ||
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On April 04 2011 03:27 Coagulation wrote: well theres always the possibilty ILJ bombs two town today. That's why nobody gave you a bomb. | ||
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On April 04 2011 03:37 Amber[LighT] wrote: Do the math and see why thats a terrible idea... I can't do new math. I keep getting Scum - Scum = Town squared dividing delicious pie. Care to fill me in? | ||
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If all blacks are eliminated does red win regardless of towns numbers? If all reds are eliminated does black win regardless of towns numbers? Or does it simply become town vs the remaining scum team?[/green] | ||
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On April 04 2011 04:16 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Do we know if lynching them lowers their KP? Where'd we get that information? I don't think they can go lower than 1. The RPGs are items above and beyond their KP. Will they choose to use them all tonight? Dunno. 4 red and 3 black remain. If we lynch Kav that drops it to 4 and 2. That forces black to shoot what they believe to be red. At least 2 shots worth at any rate. So ya lynching Kav will most likely result in more scum deaths than lynching Ilovejohn. | ||
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On April 04 2011 04:31 ilovejonn wrote: So does everyone think Kavdragon is 100% black? I would place my vote on him if everyone thinks so. He's been shot. He's been bombed. | ||
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On April 04 2011 06:20 tnkted wrote: because if this is true, then we can kill kav AND a red AND get a lynch, which would be fantastic. You got a magic bullet your not telling us about? | ||
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On April 04 2011 07:03 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: ............Since when are bulletproof a perma +1 night life and not immune to all bullets. Since LSB made the game??? Sounds like bait and switch to me. | ||
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On April 04 2011 07:19 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Also, we're likely to lose him anyways, because mafia will be afraid of his bombs. I think a 1-1-1 trade is pretty good at this point, in reducing both the scum teams' numbers. I just want to make sure all the options are discussed and nothing gets missed. We still have about 27 hours to ensure target # 2 is definite red scum If we hit another black or another townie we are pooched. | ||
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On April 04 2011 07:46 tnkted wrote: Lets make certain of this. Will lynching the hatter allow his bomb to explode BEFORE the day ends, or do the bombs explode after night begins? You're not just another pretty face ya know that? Wedding still on? | ||
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If he did I missed it. He had her on his list of blacks given up by the red team. | ||
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Do me a favor. Stop with the you've been wrong shit. My sole intentions were to win the item game for town. I'm sorry your roomie got trampled in the process. Get over it. If I see another chance to get town an advantage I'm going to take it. And ya I might get it wrong. But at least I'm doing what I see is best for town. Starting a new pissing contest isn't what's best for town. | ||
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This is due to Lanaia's role. | ||
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On April 04 2011 10:22 CubEdIn wrote: Let the poll be. There's one opinion for this (coming from jonn himself I believe) and 4 votes in the thread for yes already (with no clarification of why we should). Guess what the scum wants us to do? Scum wants us to kill John. I think I'm with you on this Cube. I'd rather scum have to deal with John at night. Lynch the known quantity. Let scum fret over who or what John may be. Forces black to use their KP on red. Forces red to use their rb on john. I see it as a better win situation for town. | ||
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On April 04 2011 10:36 Eiii wrote: everyone's going to know exactly where ilj's bombs are though, so it's not like he's a huge scary unknown to scum-- they're going to know if he's a threat or not and deal with him appropriately tonight. The best way we could set this up would be if we can get red+black fighting by hitting him/rbing him/stacking kp on his targets/etc. I assume we want to move his bombs around though, right? Ya. I'd say Original Name and Orgolove. Although blacks will have a better choice of shots if that's the case. Reds could be destroyed tonight. Or they may decide to just hit townies and let red deal with John. If we have a good idea who another black is we can have John bomb him and Coag shoot him. Or we do have a 3rd option. We can vote Lanaia and force her to activate her role. I have no fuc[b][/bking clue what may or may not happen if that occurs. She did say that if more than 50% of the lynch was on her she would claim. I'm assuming this is her criteria for activation. | ||
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On April 04 2011 10:48 orgolove wrote: You know. I know this is insane mafia, but the black market was... the very definition of imbalance. -_- There was no way for us to avoid revealing our names within the first few days of the game. Anyway. I really dislike playing with players who just do random shit. There was -no- evidence Meapak was a red. Sure, you got lucky this game, but 9 out of 10 games you're just going to screw up your own side. It really makes me pissed off how shit happens on a dice roll. Coags shot wasn't as random as it appears. He told me night 1 of the IG game Mea was scum. | ||
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On April 04 2011 10:50 Jackal58 wrote: Ya. I'd say Original Name and Orgolove. Although blacks will have a better choice of shots if that's the case. Reds could be destroyed tonight. Or they may decide to just hit townies and let red deal with John. If we have a good idea who another black is we can have John bomb him and Coag shoot him. Or we do have a 3rd option. We can vote Lanaia and force her to activate her role. I have no fuc[b][/bking clue what may or may not happen if that occurs. She did say that if more than 50% of the lynch was on her she would claim. I'm assuming this is her criteria for activation. Sorry. I'm used to posting on a forum that censors "fuck" Pair of bolds defeats it. | ||
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On April 04 2011 10:52 orgolove wrote: Really. All that internal confusion about how the bus driver works, how the black market and money works, etc etc aside, we may still have had a chance if not for that COMPLETELY RANDOM shot out of the blue. Haha. I even recall coag saying "oh I didn't shoot the night before because I was worried red would control me" - if we controlled you, you'd have shot your gun regardless of what you wanted. -_- QQ. QQ. QQ. We were unaware of black markets, bus drivers and mind control when he called him. Maybe it was luck. But it damn sure wasn't dumb luck. Why am I having an argument with scum over the fact that his GF got shot????? GG Orgo. | ||
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On April 04 2011 10:53 orgolove wrote: Oh really. And how did he know? I see absolutely -nothing- that he did that sounded scummy. Ask coag. | ||
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On April 04 2011 10:50 Jackal58 wrote: Ya. I'd say Original Name and Orgolove. Although blacks will have a better choice of shots if that's the case. Reds could be destroyed tonight. Or they may decide to just hit townies and let red deal with John. If we have a good idea who another black is we can have John bomb him and Coag shoot him. Or we do have a 3rd option. We can vote Lanaia and force her to activate her role. I have no fuc[b][/bking clue what may or may not happen if that occurs. She did say that if more than 50% of the lynch was on her she would claim. I'm assuming this is her criteria for activation. Seems to me this got lost in the shuffle. Lanaia is back so maybe she can confirm my assumption | ||
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On April 04 2011 11:29 Lanaia wrote: I just didn't want to claim unless I absolutely have to, you know? I mean, there's someone who wants me dead. Pandain? | ||
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On April 04 2011 11:29 CubEdIn wrote: Well if the reds hit town we're dead anyway. The reds should be totally pissed at blacks though, and I'm hoping they're gonna take the manly route and help town. I like how ON voted for john without posting, sign of scum. I swear, if you guys choose to go for jonn tonight i'll be soooooooo disappointed. I'll tunnel everybody that votes John. Scum scum scum scum scum.................................. | ||
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On April 04 2011 11:30 CubEdIn wrote: Oh great so Lanaia is the king? IRONIC. I never said that. << >> << | ||
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On April 04 2011 11:38 tnkted wrote: Lanaia don't post ur role. I know what you are and jackal knows what you are and we are both practically confirmed so don't worry. DONT POST IT. Town: trust us on this. Jackal knows what it is and I know what it is, you guys need to trust us confirmed townies. If we're wrong you can take us out back and shoot us. Right now the threat of 'whatever lanaia is' is scarier to scum then her actual role could ever be. Jackal im interested to know your thoughts on this since you're the only other person that knows what it is. Dunno. She may have a completely separate win condition for all I know. | ||
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On April 04 2011 14:12 Kavdragon wrote: LOLOLOLOL. I didn't die? Oh wow. What the crap? My BP works durring the day, AND BOMBS don't kill me!? Well huh. I've been thinking I was dead for a day, and when I finally get a connection again, I'm alive. I see no reason to hold this out any longer unless bulletproof keeps you from being lynched...0_0 Oh man, I'm going to have so many lols when you lynch me, because there's no way you're going to believe me, but meh. I'm dead in my mind anyways, so here you go: I'm bulletproof. Or at least i was, until I said that I was... I was going to try to breadcrumb it, but LSB said that if he saw any sort of breadcrumb he would consider it a claim, and he would remove my protection. Do we believe him? Why should we? Why shouldn't we? If we do who do we lynch? We need a 3rd party to hang. Who are they? | ||
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Jackal58 IG winner OriginalName ??? deconduo Vet Kavdragon BPB Coagulation IG winner orgolove Red Scum kevconsim ??? Mr. Wiggles ??? CubEdIn Cop ilovejonn Hatter Amber[LighT] ??? tnkted Bus driver Lanaia King Insanious Green something Eiii ??? What is he CubeD? It's obvious that somebody that has claimed a role is scum. | ||
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On April 04 2011 20:52 CubEdIn wrote: If I were to guess I'd put deconduo on a fake claim. It's easy to be a vet when you're bulletproof AM I RITE? But that means that: 1. Pandain has to DIE in arena game. 2. Wiggles is scum (but he doesn't show it, I just went over his posts, other than the fact that he's been kinda-ignoring Kav's scumminess) I'm going to flat out say Twikles is the black. On April 04 2011 07:46 tnkted wrote: Lets make certain of this. Will lynching the hatter allow his bomb to explode BEFORE the day ends, or do the bombs explode after night begins? He's trying to make it easier for us to lynch John. Why? Because we lose two townies and a red. Black wins. On April 04 2011 08:01 tnkted wrote: Cube, we'd get 2 mafia if we lynch john. Orgolove and Kav. More of the same. On April 04 2011 09:15 tnkted wrote: I think insanious black because of the saving tack slip and also because all of hi s posts in the black market are written VERY similar to his posts in here. He has a very persuasive, aggressive style of writing that is difficult to hide. More pushing on a townie. This day cycle is the first time he's called anybody black. Prior to today all of his FoS posts have been "solid red reads" No black reads. He's a fucking bus driver. That's a scum role. Reds have their mind control or whatever the fuck it is. Blacks have a bus driver. He's black as night. Hiding in plain sight. | ||
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On April 04 2011 21:42 deconduo wrote: Obviously you also didn't read my role claim.... Regardless, kav still needs to die. That roleclaim is far too convenient. I also feel there would be something in it about being rolechecked, as that would affect his BPness. On top of that, Pandain needs to die. Everyone has forgotten that he replaced RoL and he's just lurked since he stepped in. As insanious is pretty much confirmed, it makes sense for Beneatherbot (if he's town) to vote for Pandain right? If Kav is what he says he is he will die tonight. He's about the best analyzer town has left. If he is BPB he is no more. And if I were on either scum team there is no way I let him live. | ||
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Pandain ??? Replaced RoL. Has been a bit spam happy and useless since. Alluded to being king or the next mayor. We have no next mayor and Lanaia has the king role. Pandain = Anti-King??? No fucking clue. Jackal58 IG winner. IG started with 4 town 1 red 1 black. Red = Lemon Walrus, Black = Darmousseh, Townie = Annul and Tackster. Coagulation and Jackal58 confirmed town. Hold IG items. OriginalName ??? Most likely red deconduo Vet. Maybe. He could be a black hiding in town. Kavdragon BPB. Maybe. Makes sense though. Other than getting shot and blown up he has offered good analysis on both scum teams. Not one sided. And if he were Black why claim being hit? Coagulation IG winner See above orgolove Red Scum [red]kevconsim[red] ??? Most likely scum of one flavor or another. Mr. Wiggles ??? I gotta believe at this point he's black. CubEdIn Cop ilovejonn Hatter [red]Amber[LighT][red] ??? Seems to think our last scum list wasn't close. Did not choose to elaborate. Only reds would do that at this point in the game. tnkted Bus driver Lanaia King Her bodyguard was GGQ. He was green. Does not mean Lanaia is green but the likelihood of her not is approaching the boundaries of highly improbable. Insanious Green something. Assuming CubeD is right about BBs role PM Eiii ??? Role known to CubeD. Appears to be in the same category as Lanaia. Beneather Another totally unknown. He does have an item that is apparently built for comfort and not speed. But still deadly? I'm going to guess he was town aligned. If I was scum there is no way in hell I would want to get mod botted for inactivity in this fest. So we have 7 scum left and 8 town. Town appears to most likely be in my eyes: Eiii CubeDin Coagulation Jackal58 Lanaia insanious Maybe town. Maybe black. I don't think we can afford to kill kav today. deconduo Kavdragon Scum: OriginalName orgolove kevconsim tkntd Amber[Light] Mr. Wiggles And 2 totally unknown quantities Pandain Beneather. That's all I got. Kick it around. | ||
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On April 05 2011 00:14 Lanaia wrote: Erm, GGQ was not my bodyguard. Where did you get that from? I can also prove that if it is necessary. He was the ninja's bodyguard, iirc. I'm sorry Chaoser was. | ||
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On April 05 2011 00:07 tnkted wrote: Sigh. I'm not black. If you remember, it was my alignment PM confirmation thing that got most of the town onboard with darm's lynch. Also I've been extremely clear with what i've been doing, posting my switches right before the day flips, switching people around etc the problem is that I'm a known quantity. My single undeclared action was to switch lemon and bum, and that was because I thought lemon and coag were green and you or tackster were scum. Rather then let him get hit I wanted to save him. Clearly this was a mistake, but from my perspective it was a shot in the dark that happened to turn out totally wrong, and it wasted a lot of our time lynching tack etc. So I got unlucky. Sue me for that one. I understand your suspicions but I can promise: I'm not black. And you just revealed what lanaia's role was, good job. If there's an assassain here now they can kill her and win the game. Has been out for over 12 hours. | ||
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On April 05 2011 01:38 CubEdIn wrote: What about the bomb? You can't explain that! Bullet proof is apparently bomb proof as well. Blacks are bullet proof. Yet apparently bombproof as well. Takes a bomb and a bullet or two bombs or a couple RPGs to kill them. Are the mechanics of Kavs claimed role the same as Blacks? I don't know. But what gets me is the part about there being a hole in his vest. And once he claims he's just another townie. Why the fuck would you make up that to put in a fake role claim? That's got LSB all over it. | ||
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On April 05 2011 05:33 CubEdIn wrote: I get what you guys are saying, I really do. But we are throwing away the fact that Kav didn't die, and comparing it to "Bus Driver is usually a scum role". It's silly. I don't think that tnked is a better target. He MAY be black, but from what we have so far, he's NOT a better target. Heck, I'd lynch Original Name or Wiggles over tnked right now. I already suggested ON as a better option than Kav today. | ||
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On April 05 2011 06:02 CubEdIn wrote: Oh, right. o_o iGrok went to fondle chaoser's corpse and that's when he got violated. My bad. @Lemonwalrus: usually, yes. @Jackal: I agree, but we don't know if ON is black or red. He can be either, and hitting red is nowhere near as good as hitting black. Hitting Black A+ Hitting Red C- Hitting Town Fail. | ||
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ON 100% scum. 50-50 Black or Red. Would be nice if Orgolove the disgruntled or Amber[light] the bemused would show up and throw him under the appropriate bus for us. | ||
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On April 05 2011 06:37 Pandain wrote: Haha broski, bit hasty there? I've been gone for Youth in Government for the weekend, and sure as hell ain't gonna analyze anyone when everyone has like 50000000000 posts. Plus so much latin I have to do | ||
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On April 05 2011 07:46 Eiii wrote: I still don't understand why we're moving off kav-- his claim of 'vet but if I tell any of you I'm a vet then I'm not vet anymore' is way too convenient of an excuse. I'll look closer at ON I guess. Not Vet. Bullet Proof Bill. If he claimed vet there would be no questions. | ||
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On April 05 2011 08:49 CubEdIn wrote: I get you Kav, but just because he's black, doesn't mean you're not. No it doesn't. When did scum tell you they thought he was black? Before they shot him or after? I'm still thinking ON is a much better lynch than Kav. But you're right. I do owe you one. I just wish this one wasn't it. | ||
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On April 05 2011 09:06 CubEdIn wrote: They asked us to shoot Kev with our RPG last night, so after they shot him, obviously. And as much as I'd like to cave in and say, you're right, I'm not basing this on possibilities alone. You gave us CLEAR signs of black: - way less chatty than normal - described as "pro-town, but with an alternate win condition" by bum - survived shot + bomb - claimed bulletproof, which is the only possible way you're not black, big freaking coincidence At this point, I'd rather lynch a townie with a 80% shot that he's black (and I'm being indulgent here, I actually am about 95% sure that you are black) than a 50-50 between black/mafia. Frankly, it's just too much to ignore. If you convince everyone else to vote for ON, I'll switch my vote just to make sure that we're making the lynch as one-sided as possible. But let me say this again: I believe you are black. That's not gonna change until you flip. I had this feeling way before you survived the bomb, and so did bum. I don't want to change my vote. I don't trust you. If the lynch was mine alone, you'd be long dead. Alright man. If you are that positive I'll put my vote back on him. I just want to point out that 3 names that have been raised as possible blacks are the only ones still voting for ILJ. | ||
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On April 05 2011 09:36 Kavdragon wrote: Point conceded. If you are 100% sure that I'm black, than yes. You are correct. However, if you have any doubt that I'm black (there should be, cause I'm not) the safer path is to lynch ilovejohn. I just wish the rest of the town saw this/didn't owe you favors. Oh, and look: You're own plan to check role PM's? If I had this roleclaim set up earlier, why wouldn't I have claimed it? Actually if you are what you say you are the safest route is to lynch OriginalName. | ||
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On April 05 2011 10:00 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Before I go, why put bombs on me? I like you. I know you'll love them and feed them and care for them. | ||
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On April 05 2011 11:11 Coagulation wrote: LSB U SCUM? You gotta ask. | ||
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On April 05 2011 11:17 Coagulation wrote: LOL BLACKS CANT USE RPGS LOL What did I miss. WHAT DID i MISS????? | ||
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On April 05 2011 11:40 GMarshal wrote: [spectral voice] say that the bandages are possessed by someone with the role consumer of bandages, then they would fail, however if two shots were shot into someone protected with the bandages and Crucher were in the ro4 in the TSL then they would stop both (Assuming that the moon was not full). However if the 5th party fired a nuke then the guy with the bandages would have the shot bussed to him. If you need more examples then just ask ^_^ [/spectral voice] How the fuck did you find your way to the afterlife? | ||
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On April 05 2011 12:11 CubEdIn wrote: Player List 5. deconduo 6. Kavdragon 11. orgolove 15. kevconsim 16. Mr. Wiggles 20. Amber[LighT] 24. tnkted (may be RED, definitely not assassin) Which means that one of the four is the assassin. It would be best if we killed him tonight, or he might win the game (as we saw, he strikes in the morning). Would have been wise to put bombs on one red/one unconfirmed AS I SUGGESTED but anyway. DTing will help tomorrow, but will not win us the game if assassin succeeds to kill Lanaia. I doubt that any night actions will matter since ASSASSIN strikes at dawn. Be afraid, town. Be very afraid. Plan: 1. Nobody should bother protecting Lanaia. Assassin doesn't hit during the night. Bussing her should be fine though, just in case. 2. If Blacks/Reds want a chance of winning this game, they should hit Lanaia. Or coag, if it comes down to it. I know it sounds wrong but as far as I can tell assassin strikes at dawn or during the day. Do we risk losing the game in the morning? P.S.: There's a chance that the assassin could only hit once, but... Enjoy! And I thought I was a ruthless sob. Do it. | ||
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On April 05 2011 12:16 tnkted wrote: me and eii should be dt checked since we are the only unconfirmed towns at this point. I'll bus lanaia tonight, yes? Bus Coag. Coag shoots Lanaia | ||
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On April 06 2011 00:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This is now the second longest game. Just wait until I unveil my gambit to win LSB's yet to be announced Fantasy Island grudge match game within a game within a game. We will shatter the record. | ||
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On April 06 2011 03:24 CubEdIn wrote: Well what can I say then? You had the puppeteer, blacks have the RB. Which means that they can take out a townie and two reds with one shot. You should have come out with this information before sunset so that jonn would've changed his bombs. I asked you to do so repeatedly. The best you could do at this point is try and hit the assassin if you ask me. And rely on your 3rd member who the town doesn't know about to survive. I also suggest you give us any information about who else might be black so we can use our lynches properly. Several of us did. It's apparent that they don't care who wins since they are aware it won't be them. So I wouldn't believe anything they say. It's all going to be misinformation and bullshit just so they can have a few last minute giggles at our expense. | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:12 tnkted wrote: huh? yeah. wtf? wait... AN ASSASSIN IS AMONG US Gee ya think. That doesn't change the fact that either you or Decon or Eii is black. | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:21 Lanaia wrote: 'Cept Eiii is green by an inspect or something, isn't he? He was apparently role checked. Role is not alignment checked. Our guy witk alignment checking abilities also has a gun. Guns are so much more fun to play with I suppose. | ||
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On April 06 2011 04:23 tnkted wrote: read previous page where i post about how since annul picked up on my alignment pm breadcrumb, and annul was green, i must also be green. And Kav nailed his role PM yet everybody is still calling him black. Like I told annul. We're all green til we flip. | ||
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On April 06 2011 10:04 CubEdIn wrote: Jackal you protect I'll dt Too late. I have to pee. | ||
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So they can post throughout the entire game. Their roles will be spectral advisers | ||
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On April 06 2011 11:05 tnkted wrote: I figured that jackal would be protecting coag, and that coag would be shooting somebody, and that cube wasn't a primary target tonight We need info more than we need Annie Oakley. | ||
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On April 06 2011 11:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote: We will rise up, and overthrow the tyrannical reign of the bourgeoisie! WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS!!!! Stand up and fight you commie bastard. | ||
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On April 06 2011 11:08 Eiii wrote: alright so wiggles is scum Hopefully we'll know what flavor. | ||
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On April 06 2011 11:09 Mr. Wiggles wrote: American scum, you will never triumph! I fight with strength of great Russian bear and power of thirty bottles of Vodka. You will never take me! Drunk bears. Terrifying. We surrender. | ||
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On April 06 2011 11:14 tnkted wrote: I'm dead aren't I I don't want to sound like a dick but that might incredibly simply things. Divorce is incredibly expensive. | ||
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Good luck town. | ||
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On April 08 2011 01:19 GMarshal wrote: [spectral voice] you people are so boring that I am forced to go and haunt the SC2 strategy forum. I will be suing all of you for the therapy [/spectral voice] You don't stand a ghost of a chance. | ||
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On April 08 2011 09:33 CubEdIn wrote: If i'm coming there you're all my bitches! I gotta find the biggest guy and beat him up first, though. You don't stand a chance. AA | ||
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GG Wiggles | ||
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On April 08 2011 11:08 ilovejonn wrote: lets blame bum Can we lynch him? Or at least abuse his corpse? | ||
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I'm not touching that rake. I'd just get the shitty end of the stick | ||
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On April 08 2011 11:13 Kavdragon wrote: I'd like to point out now, that the only people who really did analysis, were Meapak, Originalname, and myself. WTF town? You did NO analysis? I did analysis. If town had listened to me we would have lynched twinkles I never said it was good analysis | ||
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Decon - I'm sorry I got your roomie lynched. My only intent was to win the item game. Like I said before I picked Tack because he was the easier lynch. He wasn't easier because he was new. He wasn't easier because he was acting scummy. He was only easier because he was the only one I knew I could get Coag behind. I needed Coags support. And I needed either him or Lemon dead. So I pushed Tackster. And town won the item game. Sorry if I pissed you all off but at the time the way I saw it neither black nor red could get the dt items. We were unaware of the black market. I had no idea both scum team had to out half of each other to participate. I only did what I did to benefit town. | ||
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On April 08 2011 11:30 Lanaia wrote: It was nice, and I accidentally revealed my role but I didn't actually say what I was called and then they all knew and it was an accident and askfdljhdfkh3ofje. If Jackal hadn't know what my role was, I'd likely have been more careful there. I didn't like how the blacks did get to use RPGs after the pm appeared to say otherwise. @ mod Do I get to know what woulda happened to my powers had I been mayor? I'd give anything to go back and role check Wiggles. You won on a coin flip. | ||
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On April 08 2011 11:33 Kavdragon wrote: Jackal gave away the fact that you were king really fast. I suspected it as soon as he said that he would reveal, but when he did the fuc[b][/bking thing....Lol, that was too obvious a breadcrumb for someone who was looking for the king. As far as the RPG's go, all items that we won had their restrictions lifted after we won. It was part of the rules, just not in the role PM part. CubeD outed her first. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. | ||
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On April 08 2011 11:33 Kavdragon wrote: Jackal gave away the fact that you were king really fast. I suspected it as soon as he said that he would reveal, but when he did the fuc[b][/bking thing....Lol, that was too obvious a breadcrumb for someone who was looking for the king. As far as the RPG's go, all items that we won had their restrictions lifted after we won. It was part of the rules, just not in the role PM part. Actually that was an honest mistake. I didn't realize the relevance until just now Fuck me. | ||
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On April 08 2011 15:51 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I never want to be mafia again. The only time I was mafia LSB had me on Auto-lynch. | ||
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On April 09 2011 05:01 Kavdragon wrote: LSB put in a ridiculous amount of effort into setting this thing up, and you give him NO credit for that. Insane is called insane for a reason: EVERYTHING is OP! It's about who can use their OP the most effectivly, about who can get their hands on as much as they can, and who can get away with the most dangerous risks. If you wanted to play a normal balanced game, play a NORMAL game. Speaking of risks I would really like to thank Bum for not lynching me on day 1. | ||
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How can I role claim?????? | ||
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