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On March 26 2011 14:34 Tackster wrote: Lol my PM asked for people to actually converse with me. You're either seeing scum where you want to or trying to create problems for town. Thanks for outing that btw I think it shows how reasonable I am! As a townie I am sitting tight till i get more information... And you should too Coag thinks you aren't given solid opinions and I can kind of see that, so who are your top 3 scum reads, and why? Also who are your top 3 town reads and why? | ||
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On March 26 2011 15:02 iGrok wrote: FINALLY made it to my new condo. I love it, its amazing. I'll have to read and catch up, can anyone briefly summarize the lasy 10-15 pages for me? And Tackster, the best way to alert blues to any plan is to simply PM bumatlarge i think PMs are not allowed unless you have some power that allows it... | ||
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On March 26 2011 15:07 Tackster wrote: GMarshal I would ask you the same question you asked me. Out some suspicions please! Town Reads: bum is the obvious one, but I'm going to not count it because its obvious, also from prior experience, my town reads are notoriously unreliable Tackster: Seriously, I gave the reasons why I think he is town earlier, his posts just sparkle with townies, I tried building a PbP case against him and it just fell flat on its face within the first 5-6 posts tnkted: his whole breadcrumbing plot stinks of being town, if he flipped anything else I would be really surprised Kavdragon: He forms really, really solid opinions with decent reasoning, he might be playing a good game as scum, but I find it more likely that he is just town. Scum Reads: (lurkers) Amber[Light]: BrownBear: kevconism: these are all players I KNOW tend to post a lot when town, yet I'm not seeing anything out of them, this makes my scumdar tick, sorry for not being more accurate with that, but really lurkers bother me to NO END. (which means I want to hang them, badly). I agree with your top 3 scum actualy, but posting the same thing as you would not be really giving my opinion, now would it? | ||
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[QUOTE]On March 26 2011 15:23 Lanaia wrote: Okay, I take back what I said about iGrok playing to his town meta. He no longer is doing so from what I can tell. [QUOTE]On March 26 2011 15:02 iGrok wrote: We can simply put them at L-2, with 2 people waiting to hammer. If they don't start posting a hell of a lot, lynch them. If they do, FOS but move on to the next target. If anyone quick-hammers, immediately policy lynch them the following day. This might be too much coordination for the town to handle, but I feel like it could work. [/QUOTE] Its not majority vote but deadline vote, so the person with the highest number of votes at the deadline dies, hence there is no hammering, also if that were the case it would give scum an awesome way to "accidentaly" kill townies. However the theory is sound, the way to make lurkers post is to threaten to hang them and hang them if they dont post. I refuse to take lurkers with me to lylo so I will be making an effort to get them hanged. | ||
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"We can simply put them at L-2, with 2 people waiting to hammer. If they don't start posting a hell of a lot, lynch them. If they do, FOS but move on to the next target. If anyone quick-hammers, immediately policy lynch them the following day. This might be too much coordination for the town to handle, but I feel like it could work. " Its not majority vote but deadline vote, so the person with the highest number of votes at the deadline dies, hence there is no hammering, also if that were the case it would give scum an awesome way to "accidentaly" kill townies. However the theory is sound, the way to make lurkers post is to threaten to hang them and hang them if they dont post. I refuse to take lurkers with me to lylo so I will be making an effort to get them hanged. FIXED! (sort of) | ||
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On March 26 2011 17:28 Tackster wrote: If the thread is only going to move fast when it's 00:00 - 6:00 am my time then i might as well stop sleeping... Sleep is for wimps, healthy, well rested, sane wimps, but wimps nonetheless  | ||
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On March 27 2011 03:38 Coagulation wrote: i have counted hundreds of town tells from him here and in thread that only an experienced mafia player would be able to possibly pull off against an extremely skeptical player such as myself. I dont see why you are having such a hard time understanding that out of everyone in the game there are 3 people that i have an extremely strong town read on. IF TOWN DOESNT TAKE MY WORD AT THIS POINT THEY ARE THROWING OUT AN ADVANTAGE. Point out the hundreds of town tells if you dont mind, explain it in small words too, I can be dense sometimes. I refuse to take any defense thats "I am more experienced and can see invisible tells" if you can see them you can point it out. @all the people in the IG who think we should just trust them, that is utter BS, its mafia a game of behavior analysis, if you can get a read based on behavior you can point out what that read is based on. let me say it now, I REFUSE to "just trust you" because you have information you don't want to share. Secrecy and withholding information is ANTI TOWN, huge FoS on everyone who just wants me to trust them without providing reasoning. Give me reasons so I can nail scum to the wall later, rather than selling me smoke please. | ||
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Then I think bum is being stupid, giving reasons gives us accountability, so that when someone is making the arguments based on flawed logic we can screw them over. If you do not provide reasons you are not playing pro town. | ||
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On March 27 2011 04:46 annul wrote: i would analyze the rest, but i think it is pointless until we see what happens in day and night 1 You are right, why would we bother analyzing a post that is trying to help us determine who to lynch Day 1 before day two? I mean analyzing posts when they are relevant is for noobs, as is providing backing for your accusations, right? | ||
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OMGUS, you were caught in a lie, if you are town own up to it and try to get us as much information as possible, if you aren't then prepare to die, scum. Seriously this whole IG discussion has consisted of you guys saying "trust us, we got this" and some of the town demanding information. | ||
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On March 27 2011 08:28 Coagulation wrote: Insanious your actions so far have been a pretty clear indicator that you are invested in saving tack far more than a townie would. we are gonna kill tack. and then we are gonna kill you when he flips red. your really just making it easier on town at this point And if he flips green then what? Lynch you? or Jackal? or will you be content because it almost guarantees that either red or back get the item? | ||
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Right, because demanding evidence of why a player is scum is a bold, bold scum move. Hey if you want to lynch him that bad, provide a solid case, which you have YET TO MAKE. point out scummy posts, oh wait you haven't found any... You are trying to get the whole town to lynch someone based on "I have a plan" well "I have a plan" seems like a great way to do things, "hey guys I have a plan, just lynch bum, trust me, I have a plan!" See how convincing that is? Seriously jackal, the more this goes on the worse this is looking for you. In my honest opinion this whole focus on the item game is kind of retarded, its just distracting from actual scum hunting and finding scum (you know the goal of the game?) to focus on numerical odds and plans that no one seems to explain well. Best of all lurkers are happily hiding, right brownbear and amber? | ||
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Could you have said that earlier? Now I'm fine with jackal not hanging today, assuming this plan is as foolproof as you seem to think. Seriously half this shit could have been avoided if you just said that T.T (Im not discarding the possibility that the mafia team might have someone with a cover ability btw) this explains your defense of jackal then. I still dont think Track is scum, but it does paint this whole debate in a different light. | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:01 ilovejonn wrote: Which is why it should be lynch Tack Day 1 > 1a) flips red/black > Jackal confirms people and uses whatever power he said he has with his plan > 1b) flips green > lynch Jackal Day 2. Don't know what bum is going to do but this seems like the safest way to play it out. Jackal may well be a townie, but that dosn't make him infallible, if Tack flips green then it dosn't necessarily make jackal scum, which means we cannot afford to waste a lynch on him, unless we get enough evidence. -_- GMarshal is not a happy camper, oh, and at all the lurkers, your doom is creeping closer, you know who you are! | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:20 ilovejonn wrote: Wtf are you talking about, lynching Darm won't do us shit and the Jackal vs Tack debate will go on for another Day. Tack/Jackal has to go today. Or we *could* lynch a scummier player, who gives us the same "odds" as Tack to hit scum... Nah, silly me. | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:40 ilovejonn wrote: I don't understand. You guys are insane. I will be back at 3 am EST. I expect rage. How fitting, this is insane mafia after all. Do you really not see the logic though? according to jackal and coag both of them can confirm each other and lemon is town, that leaves 3 players who could be scum, we just chose the most lurkerish/scummy of them all. | ||
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On March 27 2011 09:51 Insanious wrote: Question how is lemon town? he isn't confirmed... unless the coag / jackal thing confirms lemon Apparently coag has "hundreds of town tells" on him, not that he has been kind enough to share them with us, the only ones on the list to be confirmed are coag and jackal. | ||
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