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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 15:02 GMT
#1423
Jackal has done one thing... 2 of darmousseh, jackal, coag, and lemon are scum. Annul and Tack are town.
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Insanious
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Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 15:29 GMT
#1427
Vote Jackal58

FOS darmousseh
FOS BrownBear
FOS Amber[light]
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 15:51 GMT
#1435
So... Jackal you do realize YOU and darmousseh are the ONLY players in the item game that have NOT shown that they know what the town alignment PM is...

So basically YOU and darmousseh DID NOT GET ONE.
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Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 15:58 GMT
#1437
On March 27 2011 00:55 Tackster wrote:
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tnkted United States. March 27 2011 00:47. Posts 297
I'm voting darm because I think jackal is mafia, and I'd rather kill the bulletproof guy and hope that some vig in the crowd takes a potshot at jackal.

People have said it a million times, its better to lynch blacks than reds, because blacks can't get picked off by reds. Let the blacks kill the reds at night, while we kill the blacks in the day.


What makes you think jackal is black and darmo is red? I don't see the reasoning...

Just saw Lemon's breadcrumb. Also rereading that entire bit I can see why people arent 100% clear from it but its a start. I hope you're keeping a list of people that let crumbs out cos there's plenty more. And LSB's posts do lead me to believe that he sent similar if not the same alignment messages to everyone.

He thinks jackal is red because the mafia needs to get the black player lynched. Jackal is trying to get people in the item game lynched.

The black player wants people to ignore the item game, as the longer the item game goes, the more likely the black player wins, since he cannot die to night hits.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 18:19 GMT
#1485
On March 27 2011 03:06 Tackster wrote:
Ok i've searched and searched and searched and I cannot find the post I'm looking for - someone help me!!

I was certain I read that Jackal had said something along the lines of:
...and then we shoot someone **with coags item**...

But I can't find it in your posts - or anyone else

And i definitely remember something along those lines..

Can anyone point me to the post im talking about?

caog talked about having a weapon, I do not think that jackal talked about using coags weapon.
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Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 20:30 GMT
#1530
On March 27 2011 05:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:13 bumatlarge wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:07 annul wrote:
the majority (if not all other five?) of us agree that tackster is a fine kill for tonight.


Alright, I just want confirmation on this from all. Even if two are scum, three of you who are town have a strong feeling that tackster is scum, even with what he has posted in the thread?

I'll be honest and fair. Out of Tackster Annul and Darm 2 are scum. I picked Tack simply because I saw him as the easiest lynch. If you want to lynch darm I'm cool with that as well. The longer this has gone on the more I think annul is the town out of those 3. It is a numbers game.

WOW, so now it goes from "Tack is 100% scum" to "Tack is probably scum, im pretty sure... not really"

We are hanging the towns hopes of killing a scum, on someone who continuously lies to town to try to get them to do what he wants... Jackal is scummy scum scum scum.

On March 27 2011 05:25 Jackal58 wrote:
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On March 27 2011 05:23 deconduo wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:20 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:10 bumatlarge wrote:
Man you guys sure do jump around.

Outside of the IG, I have to say tackster has been working his ass off to prove he is town, and in general has gotten much more defense. Personally, I hate the "Lynch me then and you will see I am town" argument. Do not blame your lack of townieness on me, thank you very much.

People in the IG do not have long to live. Would it really be smart for tackster's scumbuddies to go all out in defending him when he is probably going to flip in the next day or so? The fact that jackal has gotten no defense makes it appear that way (strangely the only defense was 2 posts from orgolove and now hes back in the shadows )

So I do feel that tackster is town and jackal is not.

However, I still stand by how I view the IG game to a degree. If tackster has done something so scummy that it nullifies everything that has been stated, I need to know what that is. Like-wise, if jackal has done something so protown, etc. i need to know.

What I need right now is one target from each IG player. And give me town reads as well.I do NOT need two scum tells as people have pointed out repeatedly that scum will FoS whoever they can.

I knew when I put up my plan I would be target #1. I did it anyways. Because it is in towns best interest. Coag is town. LW is town. I am town. I possess towns night KP. I have outlined the 3 separate scenarios that can occur off of a Tackster lynch. I stand by my plan. I stand by my lynch decision.
My target is Tackster.


Ok if bum picks Tack, I'm lynching you tomorrow when Tack flips town. Someone who blindly tunnels until he gets what he wants is no good, regardless of alignment.

Doesn't matter how he flips. I'm shooting you tonight.

Ok, we need to lynch jackal tonight. He says he has the towns only KP, and is going to use it WITHOUT TOWN INPUT. This is just as dangerous as a scum.

- - - -

Not to mention, coag said he had a weapon... doesn't that mean KP? Is Jackal lying?

- - - -

As well, it would be very easy for Jackal to say "I am town KP" while being mafia or 3rd party and using their KP to look like a vig...

- - - -

Jackal looks more and more scummy as the day goes on.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 20:38 GMT
#1531
On March 27 2011 05:27 bumatlarge wrote:
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On March 27 2011 05:21 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Finally off from work for a day. Just wanted to ask the reasoning behind lynching from the item game? It seems kind of stupid statistically speaking. There is a 1/3 chance a player is anti town in both the item game and in the actual game.


1) Scum is on their own in the IG, no scumbuddies
2) 4 townies are guaranteed to be among them with PM rights, so they should have a large say in which among them gets lynched.
3) They are likely to be picked off at a faster pace then the rest of the town

Thank you jackal, that is what I wanted to hear.

umm... scum have their scum buddies on the IG...

Its not like the PM circle is closed. Both scum are getting PMs, and both scum are relaying everything to their scum buddies. The scum are then talking about what their scum player is going to do in the IG...

The town is focusing almost 100% on the IG, so the scum will focus there too...

Vs point #2... a PM circle just makes it easier for a scum to manipulate the town... They get to PM things that not everyone gets to hear (as has been seen in town... Jackal, coag, and lemon get more info than annul, darmousseh, or tack). This just means its easier for scum to manipulate people... 1 on 1 scum are more powerful.

3) Not necessarily... only if town focuses on item game as well... red cannot focus on item game unless town is using KP vs item game. Black will NOT use KP vs item game till night 2... Why would they attack into item game, when they could leave it as 1 town vs 1 black... terrible idea.

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Insanious
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Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 20:45 GMT
#1534
On March 27 2011 05:41 Jackal58 wrote:
If you sheep could read you'd already have seen where 3 or 4 times including my original post regarding my plan I have always admitted I might be wrong.

Because insulting the people your trying to convince is a good way to get people to follow you... give us something to change our minds.

Give us PMs, give us proof...

The only thing that I can go on when looking at who to lynch is the stuff in thread. In thread Tackster looks town and you look scum.

If you want to change my mind you have to prove it... give me PMs. Give me something to change my mind.

Because you NEVER will sway ANYONE simply going "guys... believe me, I'm town I swear!"
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 21:24 GMT
#1552
I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"

When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"

Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 21:33 GMT
#1556
On March 27 2011 06:30 Coagulation wrote:
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On March 27 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote:
I love how jackal and coag have been all "We have proof, Tack is scum, kill him!"

When its really just "Tack is the least popular out of us 6, and one of us 6 need to die... so it might as well be Tack"

Funny how basically the reason you are killing him is that he is new to TL :/.



This is a post from a disgruntled scum players point of view who is pissed off that his scum team is gonna lose the items.

No, this is a post from a disgruntled town, because I don't get to play the game till IG is dealt with.

If I analyze someone I get:

"Just wait till IG is done, and we will see what happens"

If I ask for someone to explain them selves:

"I'm part of IG, I don't need to explain my self"

- - -

This game is not fun for me in anyway, simply because the IG players are doing thier own things and the rest of town doesn't get to do anything till it is over.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 21:44 GMT
#1562
Everything Jackal and Coag have said is basically a lie. Has no basis in anything, and we are basing our kills on it.

Hell, they cant even defend themselves against simple questions like "what makes you think this?" which is a basic question for anyone when calling scum.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 22:07 GMT
#1572
On March 27 2011 07:05 annul wrote:
bumatlarge: i remembered that jackal at least attempted to reply to the breadcrumb post challenge, even if he did so with what i would consider an "obvious" line of tnk's.... tackster didn't at all. it makes me a little more weary to pop jackal today, since he MAY have something from the BC post.

tackster responded to the breadcrumbs already in a previous post.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 22:17 GMT
#1582
Basically for me...

Track has given town over 100 posts to analyze for later

Jackal/Coag have given few posts. The posts they have given... half of them contradict the other half

"Tack is 100% scum" vs "I'm not 100% sure he is scum"
"Jackal, Coag, Lemon are confirmed" vs "We will be confirming Jackal, Coag, and lemon by day 2"
"Tack isn't responding to PMs" vs "No one sent Tack PMs"
"Tack was inactive" vs "Tack being active the whole time with over 100 posts"

Everything Coag and Jackal have said is a lie... so how can I support anything you do? You lie, and then contradict your selves later in your posts... I don't understand how you can do that and still think we will follow what you are doing.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 22:25 GMT
#1591
On March 27 2011 07:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 07:17 Insanious wrote:
Basically for me...

Track has given town over 100 posts to analyze for later

Jackal/Coag have given few posts. The posts they have given... half of them contradict the other half

"Tack is 100% scum" vs "I'm not 100% sure he is scum"
"Jackal, Coag, Lemon are confirmed" vs "We will be confirming Jackal, Coag, and lemon by day 2"
"Tack isn't responding to PMs" vs "No one sent Tack PMs"
"Tack was inactive" vs "Tack being active the whole time with over 100 posts"

Everything Coag and Jackal have said is a lie... so how can I support anything you do? You lie, and then contradict your selves later in your posts... I don't understand how you can do that and still think we will follow what you are doing.

Nobody has lied. You keep alluding to that. You take posts out of timeline and represent them as accurate. Then say we lie. You sir are scum. I'm becoming more convinced with every post you make defending Trackster that he is your scumbuddy.
Keep 'em coming.

Dude, don't even try this with me, you want me to go through every post of yours and line them up?

If you say 12 hours ago "Tack is 100% scum" Then a hour ago "not confirmed scum, just most likely scum" Still a lie. Doesn't matter if it was 12 hours ago, or 24 hours ago. You said it was confirmed and it wasn't.

Just like you said, when you first posted that Jackal, Coag, and Lemon were 100% confirmed. Yet just now, Coag posted about a Plan to confirm you guys. This means you lied.

You said Tack didn't respond to PMs, yet then Tack said you guys didn't PM him. And you said you left him out of the PM circle. Another lie.

Then you were just caught in a lie saying Tack was inactive, when he never was.

You have LIED, stop LYING TO THE TOWN.

jesus, if you are town, you are the worst town in the history of mafia.
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 23:01 GMT
#1598
Fine, lets start here...
On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote:
Hola fellow townies. A fond fuck you to scum. I'm gonna do the same shit i did in XXXVII. I'm gonna start a shit storm of the absolute highest magnitude. I'm going to exceedingly piss off 3 IG players and I'm going to tell you guys to lay off three of them. But I'm not telling which 3 until tomorrow. And now I'm going to give town victory on day 1
#1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum.
#2 I want medic protection over night.
#3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch.
#4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched.
#5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win.
#6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow.
#7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3
#8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle
#9 That's 8 vs the world
#10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us.
#11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot.
#12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2.
#13 Town wins.
#14 Scum sucks.
#15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing.
#16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!!

This DOES NOT allude to Tackster being anything but SCUM.

#2 says he is scum black or red
#3 says you will shoot the other scum when tackster flips red/black

You do not say anywhere that you might be wrong. There is 0% interpretation where you allude to not being 100% sure Tack is scum here. If you can show me exactly what lines allude to that....

On March 26 2011 11:54 Jackal58 wrote:
Don't care how he looks. He's either red or black. What color you reppin?


Here's you saying he is 100% black or red

On March 26 2011 22:12 Jackal58 wrote:
I'm not asking anybody to sheep. I'm offering 2 scum at the possibility of 1 townie getting hit. Best case is 2 for 2 and then 4 confirmed townies worst case is 3 confirmed townies.


Again saying he is 100% red or black

On March 27 2011 05:24 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2011 05:13 bumatlarge wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:07 annul wrote:
the majority (if not all other five?) of us agree that tackster is a fine kill for tonight.


Alright, I just want confirmation on this from all. Even if two are scum, three of you who are town have a strong feeling that tackster is scum, even with what he has posted in the thread?

I'll be honest and fair. Out of Tackster Annul and Darm 2 are scum. I picked Tack simply because I saw him as the easiest lynch. If you want to lynch darm I'm cool with that as well. The longer this has gone on the more I think annul is the town out of those 3. It is a numbers game.


First time you said Tack wasn't 100% Scum... so now you are trying to weasel your self out of what your previously said. For 17 pages before this post, you said Tackster was 100% scum, 0% chance of not being scum. Now, since we are attacking you. You are saying "oh wait... he is just 2/3 chance, not 100% chance"

Very scummy. Scum like to leave backdoors, you are making yours very late, then trying to weasel out of it later.

On March 26 2011 22:42 Jackal58 wrote:
Cubed. That was my plan. Except I picked a name. I said at the beginning of my post outlining my plan I was about to piss off 3 IG players.
I know what 3 of the IG items are. Of the 3 none are particularly beneficial to the black team but they would allow reds to rape us. The other 3 may have attributes that would equally make black damn near invincible but that is merely speculation on my part. I know who 3 of the 4 townies are. Of the 3 of us we are confident in our choice of Tackster.
Of the other 3 1 says a scum is definitely among the two noobs in the IG.
Annul says it's the other noob.
Of those 3 players 2 are scum. Plain and simple. 66% chance that Tack is red or black. 50% of the IG players agree he is scum. 1 other allows for it to be likely.
2 disagree. 1 being Tackster the other annul.

Yes we may be wrong but it will pretty much nail the other two to the wall if we are. Worse case scenario 1 townie - 1 red - 1 black. Items to town.
I can't make it any more win than that.

Again this is more for bum than anybody else but feel free to call me names some more. I am nothing but pro town.


Now, as people start to question your plan. Tack goes from 100% scum (AS seen in point #2 and #3 of your plan) To only being 66% scum... you think.

On March 27 2011 05:41 Jackal58 wrote:
If you sheep could read you'd already have seen where 3 or 4 times including my original post regarding my plan I have always admitted I might be wrong.


Wait, now your saying you could be wrong... look at the first post here, you linked it. You NEVER SAID YOU COULD BE WRONG.

You said Tack could be red or black. You NEVER ONCE said he could be green. LIER!

On March 27 2011 05:57 Jackal58 wrote:
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On March 27 2011 05:49 Lanaia wrote:
On March 27 2011 05:45 Insanious wrote:
If you want to change my mind you have to prove it... give me PMs. Give me something to change my mind.

Because you NEVER will sway ANYONE simply going "guys... believe me, I'm town I swear!"



QFT.


But seriously, Jackal, why isn't it necessary to give us proof? Same to annul.

Because none of us have any "proof".
I can tell you what items LW and coag have. But I'm not going to. I can't prove coag and LW are town any more than I could prove LSB and coag were town in XXXVII.

Bum if you want to lynch me go for it. But then lynch darm tack and annul in the next 3 days.
Probably be too late but hey. What the hell. I'll be dead.


HELL, now you are saying that you don't even have proof to say that track is scum or not... you are just guessing.

Before you confirmed he was scum, now you are saying he might not be? That its just a hunch...

- - - -

So your plan was built on a LIE (Tack being confirmed scum), because you LIED saying he was scum (see posts above)... then you LIED saying you didn't LIE.

:/ Time to look into your other LIES.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 23:12 GMT
#1600
Let's start with a short lie, that deconduo caught you with

On March 27 2011 06:53 Jackal58 wrote:
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On March 27 2011 06:40 Tackster wrote:
Coagulation even if I were to agree that the posts were scummy - which of course they werent

and i were to agree you did analysis on them - which you didnt, you just said 'look scum' and left it there

you still are referencing PMs that occured AFTER you FOSsed me.

You haven't mentioned any material from before you made your mind up.

Nobody could say anything about you until I posted my plan. You were inactive. Now you're the towns darling.
If I had put forth darm or annul you'd still be lurking.


On March 27 2011 06:59 deconduo wrote:
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On March 27 2011 06:53 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 27 2011 06:40 Tackster wrote:
Coagulation even if I were to agree that the posts were scummy - which of course they werent

and i were to agree you did analysis on them - which you didnt, you just said 'look scum' and left it there

you still are referencing PMs that occured AFTER you FOSsed me.

You haven't mentioned any material from before you made your mind up.

Nobody could say anything about you until I posted my plan. You were inactive. Now you're the towns darling.
If I had put forth darm or annul you'd still be lurking.


At what point was he inactive? He's been posting since the game started. He has 100 posts, all of them in this thread. You are making shit up once again.



Lie caught 6 minutes later...

Now into another lie, that ties into this one...

On March 26 2011 12:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Tackster hasn't responded to PMs.


On March 26 2011 14:02 Tackster wrote:
Next I had only PMd ONE person before going to be last night. I told that person that we have an opportunity to work together because they gave me green vibes in the thread. I made a CLEAR condition however - I would only work together once I had somehow cleared them AND they had cleared me. That is to say I don't work with people that I haven't cleared but I also don't work with people that im not sure have cleared me. For the obvious reason that it doesn't make sense to work with me if im not clear to you.

Seeing as I only spoke with 1 person this item game team has decided i'm scum WITHOUT EVEN TALKING TO ME. Jackal, coag, etc. have PMd only today while i've been catching up on the thread to find this unbelievably wild accusation

Wait WHAT? You said he never responded to PMs... that you never sent. NO SHIT. Doesn't make him scum,

YOU LIED TO MAKE HIM LOOK SCUMMY.

You left him out of the PM circle, you didn't even PM him, and then you oust him for not PM'ing you, wow... LIER LIER LIER.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 23:13 GMT
#1602
Do I need to actually go and look for you confirming 3 town VS Coag saying that people aren't confirmed, that you are going to confirm them during the night? It only happened like 2 pages ago...
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Insanious
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Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 23:25 GMT
#1605
On March 27 2011 08:23 Coagulation wrote:
you cant hold him accountable for what i said. dont be a twat

Yes I can.

If I said: The earth revolves around the sun

and you said: No the sun revolves around the earth

Then I would be lying, and you would be proving it.

He said: You, Himself, and Lemon were confirmed 100% town

You said: We are going to confirm You, Jackal, and Lemon on Night 1.

You proved that he lied about people being confirmed. He was caught in a lie. You caught him in the lie, then never called him out on it.
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Insanious
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Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 23:27 GMT
#1607
On March 27 2011 08:25 Coagulation wrote:
maybe i lied.

Then its 3 lies for Jackal, and 1 lie for you... maybe you are the other scum. I don't know.
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Canada1251 Posts
March 26 2011 23:32 GMT
#1614
On March 27 2011 08:28 Coagulation wrote:
Insanious your actions so far have been a pretty clear indicator that you are invested in saving tack far more than a townie would.

we are gonna kill tack.
and then we are gonna kill you when he flips red.

your really just making it easier on town at this point

I'm interested in killing scum. Tack doesn't look scummy to me... Jackal does.

Has nothing to do with Tack. I haven't even brought up the Tack lynch in a while. I've been talking about killing Jackal, where he lied. He was lieing while talking about Tack.

Don't try to make a link where there isn't one.

There is a big difference between me defending tack and attacking Jackal. You can't seem to see that. Hopefully the rest of the town can.
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