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I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more. Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote: I don't care if he's still wearing diapers. I'm not here to give people warm fuzzy welcoming feelings. I'm here to kill scum. If you have issues with a noob getting lynched take it up with LSB. I'm just saying... we are here to build a community, and if I had been lynched day 1 when it was my first game, I wouldn't of come back. Most others would feel the same way. Lynching day 1 or day 2 is pretty much the exact same thing, just let the newer players have some fun, while killing others that look scummy. I know I won't be voting for Trackster simply because I can't in good conscience know that I might be ruining someone's possibly becoming a regular in TL mafia by this... I have no problem killing him after he gets a taste of what mafia is like... but he hasn't even lived a night cycle, or lynched anyone yet... but thats just me. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:49 chaoser wrote: LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. TL has a problem getting larger games going, lynching new players doesn't help. Look at Death Factory, where we only had 17 people... Trackster doesn't even look red. People are lynching him because he doesn't post... I would rather kill someone who usually posts but doesn't, then ruin the chance of having a new TL regular. | ||
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On March 26 2011 11:54 Jackal58 wrote: Don't care how he looks. He's either red or black. What color you reppin? You have 0 analysis of Trackster... yet you are 100% sure he is red or black. He is brandnew, so you can't even Meta him... so please, tell me why he is scum? All I see is a new player, that is trying, but still a little lost. Paint me a picture that will make me think he deserves to be lynched. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:03 Jackal58 wrote: That should read 4 of 6 Yup, because a PM circle with 2 scum in it is 100% reliable right. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:10 Coagulation wrote: lol you defending your scumbuddy insanious? I'm defending a new player, that doesn't look scummy at all... from getting killed night 1 their first game. Its a matter of values for me. Unless someone could show me something where he is 100% red, 0% chance of not being red... then he doesn't deserve to be killed for not being experienced. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:14 Lanaia wrote: I don't like this post. That is a terrible idea. Actually, that post kind of pains me because I can't see any town motivation for that. In nowhere I've been have we ever gone out of our way not to kill newbies, even in our newbie games/thread. You can PM pevergreen, and ask him about Totalwar.org and their policies on killing new players or anyone who has not played mafia in a while. Hell, go over to Totalwar.org and go ask some of the players that play mafia... They don't kill new people day 1 or day 2 simply to help foster a good environment for the community to grow. For players to come back and play more games. Just something I liked and picked up... I mean, I wouldn't of been back if I just was killed outright day 1 my first game... Its not motivated by any alignment, its motivated by the fact that mafia is a community game, and without a community we don't get to play games. TL has TERRIBLE activity. I mean look at most of the past few games where only half the people post... Or look at Death Factory where 17 players signed up when he wanted 30... We need more players, and killing them day 1 doesn't get new players. Bigger picture then a single game of mafia... | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:15 Lemonwalrus wrote: Insanious how about we just don't lynch anybody and all hold hands and sing kum-ba-ya? This is mafia, not pre-school. People are going to get lynched, and as part of this IG circle that we are speaking about, I will say that I too think tack is scum. I support jackal's ideas and intend to do my part to see the town win this item game, and right now I feel jackal's plan is our best bet. I never said anything like this, we have 30 players... of those we have a couple new ones. Letting them live till tomorrow doesn't matter at all in the grand scheme of things, but it can help keep them here longer. Doesn't matter to me if they die day 2, or if anyone that this isn't their first game dies today... I want to kill BrownBear, I pushed for him to die, not very kum-ba-ya-ey. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:21 Lemonwalrus wrote: Well he is trying to steer the game in a direction with outside forces that shouldn't have any bearing over the game. (but it was meant less as a flame and more to show him the error of his ways, I apologize for any flame that came across) I'm trying to defend someone you are trying to get lynched, very different then steering the game in a different direction. We are still talking about Trackster. This isn't me trying to talk about something unrelated. Don't try to spin this into anything else than it is. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:22 Jackal58 wrote: Tackster hasn't responded to PMs. So your saying this is scummy? This is the most TOWN oriented thing a new player could do... Scum will try to manipulate the town circle to do their bidding... A new player, will be easily persuaded. A new player on a scum team, will have the scum team to talk to to help them out. No scum would ignore PMs, unless their whole scum team is terrible. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:30 Jackal58 wrote: No. I'm saying 4 of 5 minus him are in a consensus. Annul thinks Lemonwalrus is. There are 2 separate scum factions involved. Do the math. Explain to me how 2 separate scum factions factor into the fact, that any scum would try to manipulate a PM circle... period. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:46 tnkted wrote: coag, you're acting extremely scummy right now. The PMS are absolutely in a different format per alignment, and annul since quoted one of my breadcrumbs they are the same regardless of item game. Can you not find any? But before you answer that I want to know if jackal can find one. There are several. And yeah, annul is clear. You do realize Coag responded to your post with his own bread crumb right... :/ | ||
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lol, I saw your post in 2 seconds coag, and knew exactly what you meant, don't worry... I guess the person leaving bread crumbs cannot recognize the same thing in others posts, lol. | ||
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On March 26 2011 12:53 GMarshal wrote: As I interpret this you cannot try to role fish peoples alignment PMs in PMs but you can in the thread, is that right? Its because in PM, you can say have everyone PM all their role PMs to jackal. Then you would know 100% who is town and who isn't. Town instantly wins item game. | ||
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1) Jackal58 is scum. He never defends what he says, he simply says "I don't want to reveal info" this is 100% scum behaviour. Scum want to keep secrets, town want to expose them. Anyone who is town, would be happy to explain why they think something, using PMs or what ever else is available to them. A scum keeps secrets. Jackal58 is keeping secrets. 2) Amber[Light] and BrownBear need to post more. They are active players, that look VERY scummy simply due to the way they are playing this game. FOS these two. Now I will be back to talk about Jackal after i shower and get breakfast. | ||
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That is the worst reason I have heard in a mafia game pretty much ever... In a game of mafia, people don't trust the town as a whole because it can be manipulated by mafia. The same can be said about a 6 person mafia game (aka. The Item Game). Mafia ARE manipulating the town in that game... the scum WILL follow any lynch that a green puts forward as long as it is not against them self... A show of hands means absolutely nothing, when the scum are whispering lies into people's ears. Only proof means anything, and without PMs or posts, this means nothing. - - - - Now, lets look to where Jackal SLIPPED UP: On March 26 2011 12:03 Jackal58 wrote: That should read 4 of 6 Alright, so he is saying: - Darmousseh, Lemmon, Jackal, and Coag say Tack is scum - Annul and Tack say that Tack is town but wait... On March 26 2011 14:07 annul wrote: i never told jackal that i thought tackster was a green i never told jackal i thought tackster was a red or black either. So now he is making up what Annul said... Not to mention darmousseh, who doesn't post, is telling Jackal that he thinks Tack is scum. So Jackal lied about what he knew of other players, in order to get Tack killed... very town like right? On March 26 2011 12:22 Jackal58 wrote: Tackster hasn't responded to PMs. Another lie, that we know... Tackster said he hasn't been sent, or has sent out PMs... meaning Jackal once again LIED about Tackster to get him killed. On March 26 2011 12:41 Jackal58 wrote: I am not going to do that. My original post said I am not going to do that. I will not and can not put townies on the line before night one action. You know what I have said. Everything I have posted can be confirmed during night one actions. I will not post PMs for the same reason. My post was more for Bum and his team to go over. But I want to be as transparent as I can be. But I will not kill my fellow townies to satisfy your desire to defend scum. Sorry man. I gave you what I can. It's Bum's lynch. Not yours. He can feel free to lynch me if he chooses. But I just put my dick entirely on the line for town and I feel no special compulsion to further satisfy your curiosity. This doesn't make sense either... He has already said "Tackster is scum" "Me, Coag are Town" "Annul is probably town" So who are you putting at risk? darmousseh or lemon? And i forget, didn't you say lemon was town as well later... So basically you are not putting out PMs because why? Because everyone knows you think Coag, you, annul, and lemmon are town. That darmousseh and Tackster are scum... dude wtf. On March 26 2011 13:42 Jackal58 wrote: I told you I don't really give a shit. I'm not jumping through any more of your hoops to appease your curiosity. Bum holds the only hoops I'm interested in. We have the game in hand. We is town. Go bait some robins. ... and then he cannot find the proof of town in tnkted's posts. So basically Jackal doesn't have the town alignment PM. Jackal is Scum. He is manipulating the IG to win it for his scum team. I believe he thinks that Tackster is the other scum team player... Jackal needs to die. | ||
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On March 26 2011 23:55 orgolove wrote: WIFOM? Since when does pointing out some obvious ways he may not be a red/black counts as that? Point is, no one's standing up to really defend him. Either the reds or blacks are really cutting him loose early, or he's actually a townie and we're missing the real targets. There hasn't been any counter-bandwagon formed, something that would've happened if he was a really crucial member of any of the the groups with the information. The counter bandwaggon is Tackster... Also, you are defending him now. | ||
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