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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On March 30 2011 04:57 Tackster wrote: If annul was shot by black instead of red we need to consider why. Oh I know - to hit the other red in the item game and not give red an advantage. But yea that's a terrible idea. Why bother trying to stop the only team that can't really kill you. Well I suppose if they can't kill you they'll do their best to out you!! Possibly with some ITEMS!! Here's the question then Tack, why would red/black even shoot at annul? He had the hot potato which blows up when people visit him. If he activates it then it's 100% chance it'll blow up. If not then it's 25% chance. Why would red/black risk it, especially black since they lost a member to D1 lynch? The only reason they would shoot at annul that I can think of is if they thought his bomb was diffused or safe right? | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:19 CubEdIn wrote: I'm honestly thinking of trying to convince everyone to move their lynch to Lemon. I'm honestly thinking about asking tnkted to marry me. | ||
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Insanious
Canada1251 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:16 chaoser wrote: Here's the question then Tack, why would red/black even shoot at annul? He had the hot potato which blows up when people visit him. If he activates it then it's 100% chance it'll blow up. If not then it's 25% chance. Why would red/black risk it, especially black since they lost a member to D1 lynch? The only reason they would shoot at annul that I can think of is if they thought his bomb was diffused or safe right? The other one would be if the blacks thought they would be immune to the bomb, so they shot Annul to try to narrow down the list of possible reds... thinking that Annul + Tack would die last night instead of Annul + Annul. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Reds would think both annul + coag would die, win-win. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:16 chaoser wrote: Here's the question then Tack, why would red/black even shoot at annul? He had the hot potato which blows up when people visit him. If he activates it then it's 100% chance it'll blow up. If not then it's 25% chance. Why would red/black risk it, especially black since they lost a member to D1 lynch? The only reason they would shoot at annul that I can think of is if they thought his bomb was diffused or safe right? I read it the first time no need to post it twice! I can think of a reason now that makes even more sense. If black though coag had the gun they could mind control him onto annul so red didn't win item game. That means that red can shoot annul like everyone was clamouring for anyway. BOOM | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On March 30 2011 04:57 Tackster wrote: If annul was shot by black instead of red we need to consider why. Oh I know - to hit the other red in the item game and not give red an advantage. But yea that's a terrible idea. Why bother trying to stop the only team that can't really kill you. Well I suppose if they can't kill you they'll do their best to out you!! Possibly with some ITEMS!! DONT CONSIDER WHY, DONT GO INTO IT I CANT TELL YOU I KNOW. JUST SHUT UP AND DIE. Geez darm went down nice and easy, his last post made me really consider switching but I trusted my instincts and my thought process. You are making an absurd amount of posts all gearing the conversation to you, when I don't really care! Coagulation is 100% town, and all scum powers were used. We just need to try to keep him or another townie alive. I'm not even that concerned about town getting the items, just as long as mafia don't get them. They won't.  | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:22 bumatlarge wrote: DONT CONSIDER WHY, DONT GO INTO IT I CANT TELL YOU I KNOW. JUST SHUT UP AND DIE. Geez darm went down nice and easy, his last post made me really consider switching but I trusted my instincts and my thought process. You are making an absurd amount of posts all gearing the conversation to you, when I don't really care! Coagulation is 100% town, and all scum powers were used. We just need to try to keep him or another townie alive. I'm not even that concerned about town getting the items, just as long as mafia don't get them. They won't. This post was I give up and therefore everyone else should. Bum if you don't want to work your delicate mind anymore that's fine. But to ask others to share in that ignorance is disgraceful | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I don't know if blacks are, usually they're immune to night hits which are bullets, not explosions like bombs. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
Debating what is happening can lead to a slip. How could you possibly be against that... | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I can think of a reason now that makes even more sense. If black though coag had the gun they could mind control him onto annul so red didn't win item game. That means that red can shoot annul like everyone was clamouring for anyway. How can they be sure coag had a gun? That doesn't make sense, it wasn't 100% clear he did. If he didn't then no one dies in the IG as far as they are concerned, they would think red wouldn't shoot annul. And reds wouldn't know that blacks mind controlled coag's stun gun onto annul so they wouldn't feel safe shooting annul anyway. That's faulty logic | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
In XXXVI I was positive that Impervious was scum. I did an analysis on him, and he it looked like a closed case to me. However, as the votes fell, there was very little resistance to his lynch. I still thought that he looked scummy, but I couldn't ignore the evidence that was in the votes. This looks very similar to me. Deconduo is totally right on this. The fact that the votes are so lopsided should be a big hint. Yes, it's possible that they are busing him, but it still looks really odd, and I don't feel comfortable with this lynch anymore. Look at Tackster's defense. He's put a tremendous amount of effort into it, even though the town shows no sign of relenting. I can't think of a scum player who has put more effort into his defense in the face of such odds, especially not a new one. In my experience, most of them defend themselves a little, but mostly they just clam up. Now let me be clear about what I'm saying here: I am NOT refuting the points against Tackster, I am pointing out that his response, and the votes both point to him being town. In light of this, and the fact that we are at mylo in the IG, I suggest that we not lynch Tackster today. I suggest we lynch Kenpachi, who is clearly scum. + Show Spoiler + On a side note, Deconduo brought up some really good points about lemon walrus, and everyone is ignoring them. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:20 Jackal58 wrote: I'm honestly thinking about asking tnkted to marry me. The answer? ![[image loading]](http://www.whg.uk.com/Image/Yes-logo-final.JPG){kind=logo} | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I'm sure everyone was convinced of this when RoL did his fake shot last night and that prompted annul to say that he had a hot potato. Why would red or black shoot into it? I doubt blacks are protected against it Black Third Party- This is the hidden faction. Backed They all are bulletproof so they don’t die so easily They are bulletproof. A hot potato is...a potato/bomb. Not a bullet. I'm pretty sure in the games of mafia I've played with bulletproof roles, they can still be killed by mad hatters. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:34 Kavdragon wrote: + Show Spoiler + Bum, I say this to you because you have the people's ear, regardless of whether they respect that ear or not. Hopefully you can get them to understand. In XXXVI I was positive that Impervious was scum. I did an analysis on him, and he it looked like a closed case to me. However, as the votes fell, there was very little resistance to his lynch. I still thought that he looked scummy, but I couldn't ignore the evidence that was in the votes. This looks very similar to me. Deconduo is totally right on this. The fact that the votes are so lopsided should be a big hint. Yes, it's possible that they are busing him, but it still looks really odd, and I don't feel comfortable with this lynch anymore. Look at Tackster's defense. He's put a tremendous amount of effort into it, even though the town shows no sign of relenting. I can't think of a scum player who has put more effort into his defense in the face of such odds, especially not a new one. In my experience, most of them defend themselves a little, but mostly they just clam up. Now let me be clear about what I'm saying here: I am NOT refuting the points against Tackster, I am pointing out that his response, and the votes both point to him being town. In light of this, and the fact that we are at mylo in the IG, I suggest that we not lynch Tackster today. I suggest we lynch Kenpachi, who is clearly scum. + Show Spoiler + On a side note, Deconduo brought up some really good points about lemon walrus, and everyone is ignoring them. His defense is almost as persistent as decons on the last day of XXXVII. Only real diiference is there were only 3 of them left or else it would have eaten up 50 pages as well. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
Lets look at the evidence against Tackster for a minute. What exactly is it? He was accused by Coag and Jackal of being mafia before night 1 even happened because...? anyone remember why? Then on day 2, after GM etc died a plausible explanation for why Tackster was mafia suddenly emerged. Ironically, it came from, again, Coag and Jackal. Lemon meanwhile contentedly watched the proceedings from the sidelines. Why didn't he defend Tackster? I mean, somebody just tallied up the votes, and absolutely none of them was any objective analysis of Tackster's play. Hypothesis: A new player will often tend to be more paranoid than an older player because the new player doesn't know what sort of behaviors are commonly trustable and which aren't. This is why you see me pointing FOS's at everybody who blinks twice; I don't know who is playing me for a fool. Lemon didn't do that at all. He happily accepted Jackal and Coag's plan. I am also considering switching my vote, although now IDK whether its between Jackal or Lemon. | ||
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Tackster
Ireland429 Posts
I've worked hard as hell to try and show my innocence here. What do I have to do to see some action? The vote is 4 hours away... | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:34 Kavdragon wrote: Bum, I say this to you because you have the people's ear, regardless of whether they respect that ear or not. Hopefully you can get them to understand. In XXXVI I was positive that Impervious was scum. I did an analysis on him, and he it looked like a closed case to me. However, as the votes fell, there was very little resistance to his lynch. I still thought that he looked scummy, but I couldn't ignore the evidence that was in the votes. This looks very similar to me. Deconduo is totally right on this. The fact that the votes are so lopsided should be a big hint. Yes, it's possible that they are busing him, but it still looks really odd, and I don't feel comfortable with this lynch anymore. Look at Tackster's defense. He's put a tremendous amount of effort into it, even though the town shows no sign of relenting. I can't think of a scum player who has put more effort into his defense in the face of such odds, especially not a new one. In my experience, most of them defend themselves a little, but mostly they just clam up. Now let me be clear about what I'm saying here: I am NOT refuting the points against Tackster, I am pointing out that his response, and the votes both point to him being town. In light of this, and the fact that we are at mylo in the IG, I suggest that we not lynch Tackster today. I suggest we lynch Kenpachi, who is clearly scum. + Show Spoiler + On a side note, Deconduo brought up some really good points about lemon walrus, and everyone is ignoring them. you are so flattering BUT, Tackster will die regardless.  | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
On March 30 2011 05:47 Tackster wrote: So people are considering switching their votes and the fact that the evidence is unfounded has been claimed over and over. I've worked hard as hell to try and show my innocence here. What do I have to do to see some action? The vote is 4 hours away... Tackster i know why your trying so hard Because your mafias only chance to get the items and you dont want to let them down. but its too late. sorry. | ||
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