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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 21 2011 18:54 GMT
#661
^^^ I can confirm that he only added the ---wait for Ace post update --- in the list above... the edit changed nothing else.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 21 2011 18:56 GMT
#662
Ok, sorry just got back from a dentists appointment, this looks awesome, we may have the game in the bag, the only thing that worries me is the possibility of a gf and/or a miller. I'm going to go ahead and Pull RoL then. Thats what we need, right?

I'll wait for confirmation first
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 21 2011 18:57 GMT
#663
On March 22 2011 03:56 GMarshal wrote:
Ok, sorry just got back from a dentists appointment, this looks awesome, we may have the game in the bag, the only thing that worries me is the possibility of a gf and/or a miller. I'm going to go ahead and Pull RoL then. Thats what we need, right?

I'll wait for confirmation first

Yes, please pull RoL. In 5 minutes, to make sure no one else does it.
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 21 2011 18:58 GMT
#664
alright, I'll pull RoL at 4:02 KST
Moderator
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 21 2011 18:59 GMT
#665
On March 22 2011 03:56 GMarshal wrote:
Ok, sorry just got back from a dentists appointment, this looks awesome, we may have the game in the bag, the only thing that worries me is the possibility of a gf and/or a miller. I'm going to go ahead and Pull RoL then. Thats what we need, right?

I'll wait for confirmation first


Assuming we have both a gf and a miller, and Kenpachi flips red:

We move everyone near him once. 4 people will flash the red light, Annul being one of them. Those 4 will get killed, then we've only got a godfather left, leaving us with a total of 15-4-1(night-kill) = 10 people. It shouldn't be possible to give a lead like that away as town.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 21 2011 19:02 GMT
#666
Alright, Pulling RoL

##Pull RoL
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Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 21 2011 19:03 GMT
#667
On March 22 2011 03:59 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 03:56 GMarshal wrote:
Ok, sorry just got back from a dentists appointment, this looks awesome, we may have the game in the bag, the only thing that worries me is the possibility of a gf and/or a miller. I'm going to go ahead and Pull RoL then. Thats what we need, right?

I'll wait for confirmation first


Assuming we have both a gf and a miller, and Kenpachi flips red:

We move everyone near him once. 4 people will flash the red light, Annul being one of them. Those 4 will get killed, then we've only got a godfather left, leaving us with a total of 15-4-1(night-kill) = 10 people. It shouldn't be possible to give a lead like that away as town.


Actually, assuming the GF doesn't flash the red light, only 3 people will flash it, one being the miller. Kill those 3 and the score is 10 townies to one godfather. Even better odds.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 21 2011 19:06 GMT
#668
This is assuming kenpachi flips red. What we are doing is this:

Town + Mafia = 15
1) See who flips the red switch (red light)
2) Town votes who to kill of red light people
3) Kill 1 - 2 people
4) Wait to see what kenpachi flips
5) If he flips red, and the 1 - 2 we killed flips red, we kill everyone else with red light
6) If he flips green, we pray someone we killed flips red
7) We wait out the night and 1 town dies
8) We start the day with 12 to 8 town (depending on if darmousseh is telling the truth) and 4 to 1 mafia (depending on if darmousseh is telling the truth)

We will either take the game from 11 town - 4 mafia, to 8 town - 4 mafia, or 10 town - 1 mafia...
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Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 21 2011 19:10 GMT
#669
Basically... we are either going to kill the mafia out right, or we are going to hurt the town, but we will still have a fighting chance...
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
March 21 2011 19:15 GMT
#670
Worst case scenario: Darmousseh lies. Nobody knows what his ability did so we assume he didn't do shit. Leaves us with 12 people come the next day, the score being 8-4 mafia, with darmousseh confirmed mafia and then we can start unraveling the web of lies and figure out practically all the other mafia with traditional methods.


Note that if darmousseh lies it'd be extremely weird: a mafia ability that starts showing red signs whenever....a DT is near? Or a miller? That you have to setup, and once moved once it cancels? That sounds extremely crazy.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#671
hey by the way

how do you know there are 4 mafia? was this ever told to anyone?
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 21 2011 19:17 GMT
#672
^ this is what I was saying as well.

Update:
Plan: (rev 3)
1. Push annul out of the way up to #12 - done by Insanious
2. Pull RoL (to 8) - done by GMarshal
3. Pull Rean (to 8) - done by OriginalName
4. Push GMarshal (to 6) - done by CubEdIn
5. Push Wiggles (to 9 to be tested)
--- wait for Ace post update ---
6. Pull Wiggles back (to 3)
7. Push CubEdIn (to 9 to be tested)
--- wait for Ace post update ---
8. Push Eii (to 9 to be tested)
--- wait for Ace post update ---
9. Pull Eii (to 7)
10. Push Chaoser (to 9 to be tested)
--- wait for Ace post update ---
11. Pull Chaoser (to 5)
12. Push bumatlarge (to 9 to be tested)
--- wait for Ace post update ---
13. Pull bumatlarge (to 6)
14. Push GMarshal (to 9 to be tested)
--- wait for Ace post update ---
15. Pull GMarshal (to 6)
16. Push GGQ (to 9 to be tested)
--- wait for Ace post update ---

Pushes needed: 7, Pulls needed: 6
This will test all but Keifru.

STILL SUBJECT TO CHANGE BASED ON RESULTS.

(We still need someone to push Mr. Wiggles in order for the first stage of the plan to be complete.)
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 21 2011 19:18 GMT
#673
On March 22 2011 04:15 Rean wrote:
Worst case scenario: Darmousseh lies. Nobody knows what his ability did so we assume he didn't do shit. Leaves us with 12 people come the next day, the score being 8-4 mafia, with darmousseh confirmed mafia and then we can start unraveling the web of lies and figure out practically all the other mafia with traditional methods.


Note that if darmousseh lies it'd be extremely weird: a mafia ability that starts showing red signs whenever....a DT is near? Or a miller? That you have to setup, and once moved once it cancels? That sounds extremely crazy.

Personally, I think that if what darmousseh says comes up as a lie, one of the mafia probably tampered with the ability... which again, if that happened, then we still have information, and any information, even if wrong information, can be helpful...
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CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 21 2011 19:18 GMT
#674
Yes, Annul.

It clearly states in the rules that there are 4 bad toys. (reds)
You're digging yourself deeper man, just read the thread.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
March 21 2011 19:19 GMT
#675
On March 22 2011 04:17 annul wrote:
hey by the way

how do you know there are 4 mafia? was this ever told to anyone?

It says so in the OP

On March 22 2011 04:17 CubEdIn wrote:
(We still need someone to push Mr. Wiggles in order for the first stage of the plan to be complete.)

We are waiting for ace to update the positions before we push Mr.Wiggles, just to make sure everything is going to plan.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#676
how is anyone "digging themselves deeper" by asking for clarification on whether a fact as important as that was known/revealed?
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 21 2011 19:20 GMT
#677
Fair enough. See you guys in a couple of hours.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
March 21 2011 19:23 GMT
#678
@annul
Well, because you are trying to divert attention from the main focus of the game (which is the "checking part" right now), by questioning the fundamentals of the game.

This is the second time you are going "against the grain": First you asked darmousseh to post a PM when it's strictly against the rules, then you are trying to place doubt on the fact that there are 4 mafia in the game, when it says so in the OP.

So, either you're not really paying attention, in which case you should start focusing ASAP because you're on the edge, or you're trying to cause confusion, in which case...
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
March 21 2011 19:26 GMT
#679
.....waiting for update from ace.........
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 21 2011 19:26 GMT
#680
explain again to me why asking for clarification is "going against the grain?"

"was it confirmed there were 4 reds?"

"yes, it was in the OP."

simple, done and done. move on. that was all i wanted. don't try to use this as another attack on me. because in fact if it WASNT confirmed, we caught the real reds.
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