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Mini Mafia VII: Guts and Glory

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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 16 2011 21:51 GMT
#24
/in

Lemme just read thread ^^
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 16 2011 22:45 GMT
#37
Yes im playing and thanks ^^
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 17 2011 07:17 GMT
#92
I had the weirdest fever induced nightmares of this setup.
On February 17 2011 12:37 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2011 12:10 GGQ wrote:
On February 17 2011 11:57 GMarshal wrote:
DLYM? Now I'm curious


Don't Lose Your Mafia!

That was an interesting read, thanks

Anyway, are we going with the plan that the person who is going to be lynched bombs the next scummiest target? or is that far too risky for town, and if you are going to be hung you should just take it like a man? To be honest I'm partial to the second option as in a worst case scenario we lose 3 townies day 1 (really worst case scenario we lose two townies and a medic)

Jackal terrifies me in this game as he has a tendency to tunnel


It's not about taking it like a man, but about if we are certain enough of a second target. 2kp town sounds nice in theory, im sure mafia wants to lay low to not become 1of the 2 suspects day 1.

Please dont tunnel. While this setup allow us to take out red we are personal certain off, atleast try to convince town before going allah akhbar on your suspects...
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 17 2011 10:09 GMT
#94
Whatever, as long as you use it to pressure people first. And don't blow up our medic.

Seems like the most experienced people in this game are LunarDestiny, Deconduo, amberlight and Chaoser. I bet either amber or chaoser is the godfather
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 17 2011 17:05 GMT
#102
On February 18 2011 01:20 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Everyone should get their behavioral analysis hats on and start thinking about 4 players. I'm going to assume that there is only 1 medic in this game, since anymore than that would probably be broken for the town. Why? Simple. Role claiming would be a slightly less risky plan with multiple medics since there is less risk of losing our protection abilities as the days continue. Okay so now you want to focus on finding 4 players. 3 of them should be your potential mafia players. Easier said than done right? The other is who you think is the medic. Keep tabs on all of these players. Try to do your best to save your medic pick without vocalizing that you think 'player x is who I think is the medic!'

What criteria would you suggest for people to use when selecting 3 mafia, and why do you think it's necessary to guess on who the medic is? I've found that if you think someone is mafia, don't get distracted by trying to find connections to others, focus on one lynch at time.

In my opinion it would be great if people posted 3 suspects, but without reasons it's not worth much?

With that said...

I'm still interested in hearing from Deconduo since he's been rather quiet. I think once we hit the first 24 hours it would be safe to say he's lurking. It's weird because he posted an hour before the game started, but since he's from Europe I'm going to give him a pass on that since he most likely went to sleep by time everything started.

Chaoser is another one I want to hear about. He's been quiet and his only post has been "lawl." He didn't seem very intent on creating a strategy for us to follow aside from laughing.

Lynch suspects for Day 1? I would start with those 2. Chaoser would probably be my bet as of right now since he hasn't contributed after the Coag thing, which people were kinda getting upset about. It's not like he actually exploded! We can't sit around and discuss useless information or play-styles. This isn't exactly innovative Coagulation play it's pretty much normal from what I remember of his style.

It's evening/afternoon in EU at the moment. I know deconduo likes to lurk when mafia
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 17 2011 20:57 GMT
#127
Chill down chaoser, there is some weak fos like there always will be on day 1. Your play is alot unlike mini mafia V imo. But I would like to hear who you would lynch/blow up? =)
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#131
Wiggles is not in the game. It's coag, OriginalName and LunarDestiny thats missing atm.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 17 2011 22:43 GMT
#140
On February 18 2011 06:12 LunarDestiny wrote:
Looking back what happened after my suspicion post on Coag.

Coag:
Didn't reply immediately. In other games, he will reply very fast (even if the reply is simple and meaningless). I am worried about that he was away so he didn't see my post. Again, I wanted to point out that Coag improved his game and actually tried to do analysis. I will be expecting in the future those if Coag is town.

It's a weak FoS, and what does it have to do with what happened since your last post? You end up sounding like you aren't really suspecious of him anyways?

GMarshal:
He is the first one to defend Coag and his defense came only 7 minutes after. He then asked and tried to generate discussions. Looking back at his last 2 games (orpah and XXXVI), he plays similar style. Although we don't know his alignment in orpah, he post a lot in both games. This explain why he reponse to my post immediately.

No mafia is so obvious as to defend their team mate straight off. Why is it relevant to explain why he responds to you immediately?


chaoser:

He questioned that I broke the ice but I don't get how that can be used against me.

And the later part of this quote doesn't make sense at all. If we don't lynch, mafia will just use nightkill and take out one of us.
lol...we always choose him...What do you guys think about if someone is bombed before lynch then we don't lynch that day? Think that makes sense right?

Sounds like OMGUS to me?

When I read your post, it comes off as weak fingerpointing. It starts out by saying it addresses what has happened since his last post, but really it just restates your weak suspecions. What more is, you produce wishy washy opinion on 3 people. Whats the point of bolding their name when your comments are so back and forth? When your first post in a long while is so empty, it raises red flag for me. FoS on you.


That said, Coag you need to start posting more.


On February 18 2011 07:01 OriginalName wrote:
I'm here guys. I'm just still getting the hang of analysis and really have nothing to say but you can be assured I'm watching. Also blowing each other up for no reason seems counter-productive so why can't we all just get along T_T

[joking tone]On the other hand next person to make fun of my name gets it -_- (rummages for detonator)[/joking tone]

This is not good enough. If you read the mafia guides it's the silent people that gets lynched first. And no, we can't just all get along. If you keep quiet we can't get a read on you. Hence mafia can just lurk like you. And we will be forced to kill you off before we can go after them.

You could easily post your opinion on the no lynch suggestion, as well as how and when we should use our suicide?

For an example, it's my opinion that we should avoid rushing towards lylo. The longer the game, the more information we got.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 09:25 GMT
#153
I've gotten stupidly sick and have a hard time just looking at a screen at the moment. @LSB if you want to replace me go ahead.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 14:17 GMT
#155
Agreed with deconduo, i usually wake up to pages. This is not the usual day 1 FoS circus for sure.

My problem with LunarDestiny's post is it's build up as a "here are my thoughts on 3 important people", but really it ends up not saying anything about them. The coag bit could be: I'm watching for if coag has actually changed his play", GMarshal... well he doesn't say anything about him, and the Chaoser bit sounds defensive. So I have to wonder, why does he post a for him pretty long post without any content? I find it suspecious, even if it doesn't mean he is mafia.

Earlier I posted a list of deconduo, LunarDestiny chaoser and Amber[light] as the most experienced, and there is bound to be a mafia in there. The chaoser vs Deconduo fight looks a lot like 2 townies fighting to me. Chaoser's posts where short and emotional, quite different from his long posts in mini mafia V, and deconduo went after him fearlessly, I'm pretty certain mafia would be more careful not to piss off people in a setup like this.

That leaves Amber and LunarD. Amber has not responded to my questions to his posts, and LunarD made a very fast FoS on Coagulation, and later a suspeciously empty post. So LunarD, what do you think of Amber's posting behavior, and Amber are you sticking with Chaoser and Deconduo as suspects still?
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 20:53 GMT
#172
##Vote LunarDestiny

I think he is bluffing, but if he blows himself up I get rid of a suspect, and I will change my vote.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 21:38 GMT
#184
On February 19 2011 06:30 chaoser wrote:
BTW, what is everyone's thoughts on suicide for day 1? We barely have any info so I don't know if I'd help with blowing up or not. Though if it were up to me, No guts, no glory, I'd boom =D

Townie, who is about to get lynched, can blow someone else he is certain off up, giving town 24 hrs of extra daytime to decide on another lynch/no lynch. If he isn't certain, he shouldn't blow anyone up.

Forcing someone to blow up = anti town.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 22:03 GMT
#198
Meh why not just let chaoser stack up votes then Lunar? You would have been able to challenge him and offer to change your vote instead if he blew up someone.

In any case we now got 24 hours extra to decide on a lynch, which isn't all that bad. Question is if we go for a no-lynch or we find someone else. It's only day 1, and we haven't gotten anything solid, but on the other hand both LD and chaoser can be regarded as green for now.

Amber is suspecious but I don't want to vote him without a better analysis of his behavior. Will look through his old games tomorrow.

The 3 people I find has been the most quiet is GGQ, Coagulation and OrignalName.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 22:08 GMT
#202
Only games where I have seen coag spam in all caps is when he is mafia.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 22:44 GMT
#222
No fucking point discussing it further, chaoser and LunarDestiny is dead, and while I agree with GMarshal, nothing seems able to convince LD otherwise.

LD and chaoser, if you want to help out atleast give us your thoughts on people.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 18 2011 22:57 GMT
#231
Actually some really nice posts being written now, seems like this actually woke up town. I agree with LD's criterium, and I agree with GGQ's plan suggestion... and I agree with GMarshals list.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 19 2011 01:58 GMT
#252
In any event we need to use the lynch possibility to pressure people.

OriginalName earlier argued against a no lynch sollution, but now he seems to have changed his mind.

Coagulation has not shown any intent of helping the town. This is unlike his play in mafia xxxvi, where he actually contributed. He has so far only threatened to blow up people that questioned him.

##Unvote
##Vote Coagulation
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 19 2011 08:11 GMT
#273
On February 19 2011 15:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 14:45 GMarshal wrote:
While I too find Jackal frustrating, I would hold off on lynching him, if he really is town then I can practically guarantee he'll kamikaze tomorrow as he seems convinced you are mafia, instead vote to lynch Coagulation, he hasn't posted any contributions at all, or Original Name who claims he is too busy right now (which could be true, its also an excellent excuse to lurk)


I agree with you completely, but this is something I can't ignore. THe last time I did this scum got away and I was killed. It's upsetting to think that someone is going to be able to get away with what seems to be the most obvious scum tells that I've ever seen, and I don't want this to go unnoticed.

Bullshit that you want to kill someone you don't think is scum. Where is your behavior analysis? Try and look through any game with Jackal as town.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 19 2011 10:29 GMT
#274
And come on guys, you are letting Coag get away with lurking in a setup that hugely favors scum laying low.
Bartundar
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
February 19 2011 16:01 GMT
#280
@ Barundar if it's going to be the difference between a no-lynch and lynching Coagulation I will make sure it gets done. Don't we already have a majority at this point, or we're nearing it?

I'm fine with lynching either you or coagulation. Reason I pick coag over you is beceause you atleast post something. If you want to help me bus who I think is your teammate, thats ok
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