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and i promise ill get more sleep and not use uh "illegal substances" before Day 1 next time zzz | ||
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What If your PM buddy is scum What If your history keeper is scum This all seems rather inefficent and I remember that game where people blindly roleclaimed to Pandain which caused a town loss. Marshal I really think your an awesome player but this is not the way to go about this. PMs are good for a similer kind of thing but RNG is still random. You can accomplish the same thing by posting and then asking for PMed opinions. it's really hard for town to get information and opinions when your only confiding in one person. There are ~24 of us. We all need to make smart decisions. | ||
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On February 23 2011 12:40 chaoser wrote: Ok, so like Gmarshal said, we shouldn't depend on blues this game. Especially since RoL specifically said this game was to punish us for what happened in Salam. At the same thing, I don't think the mafia powers are all THAT powerful. Let them frame away, that's one less death to worry about. PMs are allowed but PLEASE don't just give out crazy info in them (roleclaim, etc.). The point of town is not to have 1 leader controlling everything but small circles that are separated so that if one goes down, the others can still operate. Let's all work together and not let a few players handle all the work (which always seems to happen). This means contributing pleaseee. This is soooo good. Pms are a great tool but don't rely on them. | ||
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On February 23 2011 12:46 gryffindor wrote: I'm a veteran claims to me If you claim to him your hopeless. Care to give more Gryff? | ||
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On February 23 2011 12:47 annul wrote: okay hi peeps vote chaoser. that post reeks of redness. p.s. still no role PM! I think it's quite town but needs to have communication between cells also how exactly does it reek red? | ||
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I sort of just skimmed that guide for mini mafia guess I'll take a closervlook now. | ||
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Old Groups + Show Spoiler + 1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor 2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName 3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim 4 Barundar, LastArgument , why 5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi 6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN 7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58 8 Beneather, annul, Conversion 9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny 10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright New Groups + Show Spoiler + 1.) Coagulation LSB Barundar 2.) CubEdIn Jackal58 Kenpachi 3.) darmousseh annul gryffindor 4.) GMarshal Beneather icemac 5.) OriginalName , JBright ,seRapH 6.) ohN ,astroorion, Foolishness 7.) Gofarman ,Conversion ,kitaman27 8.) kevconsim ,ICanFlyLow ,Mr. Wiggles 9.) chaoser LunarDestiny Ser Aspi 10.) deconduo why LastArgument While I think these new groups are slightly more random i bolded groups that remain relatively the same. Im not sure if it means anything but well you never know . I still dont plan on using them as Scum infiltration is increadably likely and really not worth the misinformation overall. However it is still possible to scum fish by analyzing their responses and looking at how some are fishy. | ||
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The following need to post: icemac JBright astroorion ICanFlyLow Gofarman :/ | ||
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On February 24 2011 01:17 deconduo wrote: I don't like this at all. The whole banter between gryff and gmarshal seems off as well. In addition I've gotten 2 PMs this entire game: Disturbingly similar. Ive aloso received a similer PM from Gmarshal. Original Message From GMarshal: So, what are your reads on chaoser, gryffindor and annul? I didnt reply to it as i really didnt need to know what to make of it. He seems to want reads to be isolated when they should be posted in the thread. This is seems scummier and scummier to me but i will reserve my judgement for now. | ||
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On February 24 2011 01:34 OriginalName wrote: He seems to want reads to be isolated when they should be posted in the thread. This is seems scummier and scummier to me but i will reserve my judgement for now. -_- | ||
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On February 24 2011 01:55 GMarshal wrote: So ON, who are your scum reads since you insist so much that all interaction should take place in the thread? While I would like to say you I really dont have much evidence other than that. Other than you: Chaoser Gryf (mostly the Vet claim and the possible fake fighting between you and him) That random dude who voted Annul for no reason (Althought probably just a newb) At this point I really dont have a good idea. My opinions on the rest are generally neutral and I really dont have anyone who i solidly think is town yet. | ||
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On February 24 2011 08:47 kevconsim wrote: Most of the stuff that i have thought has been posted and i agree with a lot of the stuff on here. I think it would be a mistake to get rid of some of the major contributors. Thats not enough man. Who do you feel are major contributors? Why do you agree with them? Who do you think is scum? What do you agree with? There are alot of differing opinions this game just bandwagoning is how town loses especially when mafia tips it in the right direction have a mind of your own or you lose. -------- In my case I think right now there are really two camps of thought Gmarshal, Chaoser and co They advocate: A PM based game ran around using cells Pros: A good way to hide ideas and to disscuss when they are uncorrupted cells Cons: A ~30% of mafia corruption. HOWEVER Im these cells ther could be multiple scum, so this could or could not be a great idea. This is based on our sign-up numerical based selection. Clean cells however are a great tool and promote activity as long as the information is put in the thread afterwords. Another point is how do we know what information is being held back and we could use reactions to lure out mafia in PMs. Lynch candidates: Undecided Annul and co. Consider GM Chaoser and etc scummy Wants to pressure them and play this by the book but havent figured out a solid game plan as of yet. Is more Blue Role based. Just as easily pushed around by mafia in thread. Wants a more standard PM usage. Id like to hear more on planning. When i take a more anlyaictic approach to system A I like it more but sort of passed it off as viable to corruption. Mafia Corruption is going to be our number one issue this game. I really dont have much else to say otherwise and really need more information to act. Lynching: Inactives will be modkilled ---> Pursuing an inactive lynch is fairly random in result and can lessen the modkill impact theoretically Or we could do a more educated lynch at which point we need to have a target in mind and have good evidence to due so. Or we could just bandwagon and hope for the best you never know (Don't do this) | ||
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Cons: A ~30% CHANCE of mafia corruption. | ||
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seems bitchiiiiiin | ||
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On February 24 2011 10:51 gryffindor wrote: Go to mafiascum Type in common tells in the wipi search Go to mafia tells Go to the d1 section Congratulate me, and realize I'm pro I dont mind voting annul he seems to fit a good amount of that criteria -_- Should we wait or go now? | ||
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9.) Jackal may be mafia he is not playing his usual agressive, tunneling game, and is almost as subdued as in MiniMafia V This is a really good point: If we use playstyle analysis and an example as MiniMafia VII some things i noted as playing against him as mafia: He was baiting us hard the entire game. He was very aggressive (to the point we went for him as a high value kill) However this high value kill could have cause him to be more subdued and want to focus on survival . On the other hand he could be trying to acheve the same result of survival but with another aim. | ||
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On February 24 2011 11:05 icemac wrote: No, I'm not saying we hang you. What I'm saying is we keep the analysis for later where we actually have substantial data. We can get plenty of data Day 1 Jackal posted our entire scum team in MMVII right before the Night post which ended the game. No lynch D1 by the way. Votes are a huuuuuge scum tell when analyzed in the right way. | ||
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Quickly. | ||
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do we swap to an inactive now or just wait it out? | ||
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On February 24 2011 11:39 GMarshal wrote: I would agree to pressure an inactive, does astroorion sound good to people? btw i forgot to add I really want to hear an opinion we havent heard yet we know annuls stance we know Marshals stance. My stance is unless we get a really solid lynch we go inactive or someone whos playing outright terribly. | ||
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On February 24 2011 12:11 GMarshal wrote: but its less likely to happen if you have someone asking your opinion and thoughts every day or so, I mean I know that when I was new I didn't post as much because it was terrifying, I'm not saying it will magically make everyone active but it should at least encourage activity, at the very least the other members of the circle will realize the person is inactive and will make sure it dosn't go by unnoticed I still dont see how the circle inhibits thinking, part of playing mafia is being confident in your analysis, if someone thinks your analysis is awful you go ahead and post it in the main thread, if others think its good then congrats you may have uncovered scum, if they also think its awful then its a learning experience... Personally reapeated deaths deterrified me into me just wanting to post more i never really had PMs as i played in games without them but I really dont think it would prod me that hard. just my opinion. | ||
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On February 24 2011 12:16 annul wrote: oh hey another smurf why the fuck does everyone smurf? why are you all afraid of your skill? ?? | ||
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On February 24 2011 12:31 LSB wrote: Inactive voting Inactive voting is a form of a policy lynch, you lynch someone because 1) you hope that through example people will be less inactive (This never works btw), and 2) you don't want to bring the inactive to lylo. Someone who doesn't post much is going to suck at Lylo. Dealing with Inactives is incredibly important, practically every large normal game lost by the town was because of Inactives. 3 mafia v 4 inactives is no contest at all. Now, should we waste a lynch on an inactive? How about instead we push town inactives to modkill themselves? What do you guys think about that? We get to use our lynch on annul, and the inactives still disappear! I can live with option 2. | ||
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Hopefully with less anger  | ||
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I've said before that I had suspicion about him but trying to pressure an inactive after what we breifly disscussed last night just pushes him over the edge and he is by far my biggest scum read. | ||
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On February 24 2011 21:25 astroorion wrote: ##Vote:annul Sup dood how's the bandwagon. Scumboi. | ||
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That was by far the scummiest move gryf made all game. However for now my vote will stay the same as I wish to pressure Icemac heavily. | ||
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On February 25 2011 10:55 kitaman27 wrote: I also have a question for you annul, why completely ignore this post? I know I surely wouldn't let something like this pass if I was on the chopping block. I would like to see your analysis of gryffindor if you are truly "making your move" Im curious on how exactly this got missed and/or completely ignored after it was pointed out -_- | ||
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MAFIA POWERZ OPOPOP | ||
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Plan for 6 plan for the worst case and were better prepared. | ||
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OOPS SUP COAG wut u think of dis shitzzzz | ||
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DT check suspicous pplz (although think about who you would cover and take that into account) MH go batshit crazy Vigis useless for now I guess | ||
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On February 25 2011 12:34 Coagulation wrote: DO NOT MEDIC PROTECT LSB JESUS CHRIST ITS SO OBVIOUS dude i dunno i dont give mafia that much credit i mean really day one sac? + Show Spoiler + WTF is going on. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + 6am flights are a biiiiiiiiittttttcccchhhhh ----- via kp setup covers are unlikely but don't claim anyways. | ||
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We need to start really scrutinizing things or we get nothing done todaaaaay. Would be a shame to not follow up on day 1 well. | ||
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Mafia probably just got some lucky snipes Probably has one experience player and a load of non-experienced players If anything I think the bus was instigated by the random vote on annul about mid way through d1 I like risks however so I think the Bus is definitly plaisable Therefore ##Vote LSB | ||
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I completely forgot he existed in this game until foolishness brought it up again and really I was almost starting to be suspicious of his lurking (if that's his style then please just say so) until that big post. I can get behind a lurker way easier then LSB despite some possibilities. One thing that bugged me About LSB was the list though and I have to ask what the point of it was other than giving scum guidelines on who to kill and us a pseudo medic protect and priority guide I think that could have been accomplished in other ways. Namely just pointing out experience rather than just catagorizing "likely blue roles" I apologize for not really thinking it over after the list though I need to stop sheeping so hard. However by the same vein Id really like to lynch an inactive right now and while I have lingering feelings about icemac (see d1) II think this might be the slightly better lynch. ##Unvote ##Vote Lunerdestiny | ||
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On March 01 2011 01:43 gryffindor wrote: ack, i forgot about that extra mechanic claim in PM to me  ... On February 23 2011 12:46 gryffindor wrote: I'm a veteran claims to me HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Gryff i am dissappoint | ||
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go town~~~~ | ||
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On March 07 2011 11:56 Foolishness wrote: f5 f5 f5 f5 wait....I'm dead... >.> Dude your not alone. MY STONEWORK WILL LAST FOREVER | ||
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On March 09 2011 12:29 LSB wrote: Permission to post out of game information regarding LastArgument? + Show Spoiler + O_o | ||
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Auto-lynch Pandain D1? | ||
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On March 15 2011 03:44 GMarshal wrote: Silence foul undead! don't make me break out the holy water and stakes. duuuuuude chillllll were ghosts not vampires. If you want vampires go ask Gryff...owait. | ||
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And I will enjoy it. | ||
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