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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 03 2011 05:32 GMT
#1524
On March 03 2011 12:53 LSB wrote:
Hmm
That actually would make sense.
4 Grunts, and 1 Godfather.

That is 5 mafia total, so 2.5 KP + the godfather KP, giving them 3.5 KP.

They didn't use their power night one, so that means DT checks from night 1 are mostly reliable.
By using 1+ roleblocks night two, we can soft confirm both me and Jackal

LSB.................
no.

Also, your list of medic protection is a joke, and needs to be updated based on who is cleared through having, you know, lynched scum.

Annul - 10
Gofarman
deconduo
Ser Aspi
LSB
Kenpachi
astroorion
Gryffindor
GMarshal
Foolishness
chaoser
darmousseh
CubEdIn
Mr. Wiggles
kevconsim


Seraph - 7
Foolishness
why
LSB
Barundar
Jackal58
LunarDestiny
gryffindor
Ser Aspi

I updated the annul wagon with my PROPER positioning on it. RoL having me at the end was due to him having missed my vote, I guess. I voted when they were tied at 5-5, so I'm at the least the 6th voter on there, which I represented. Considering unvotes and such, and people coming off of it from before me, my positioning on it may have even increased, but, at the worst, my positioning on it was 6th out of 10.

Basically, considering who has been on both wagons, here is what we have:
Tier 1 of "who you should protect"
Foolishness
Ser Aspi
LSB
Gryffindor

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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 03 2011 07:28 GMT
#1526
Your "pushing" of Seraph reads more of a defense of JBright.
If JBright is scum, it is easier to defend him and dismiss him as a village idiot, which makes you not clear whatsoever. That is why my list is much more solid, as it is sheerly based upon voting analysis. I also dislike the way you are saying Jackal is cleared through this, as his was primarily a one liner. I am not really suspicious of either of you. Here is the list I have on a word document on my desktop, I will share it with you, though I probably shouldn't.

Townie
gryffindor - I know my role
Foolishness - Has been on both scum wagons, doing detailed analysis/scumhunting
LSB - Has been on both scum wagons, spotlighting, and trying to scumhunt... somewhat.
Ser Aspi - Has been on both scum wagons, and made a few good cases
deconduo - behavior seems protown
Jackal58 - roleblocked, supposedly
Barundar - Realized the contradiction between LSB being roleblocked, and greenclaim
chaoser - weak meta town read
bumatlarge - the slot he replaced into was suspicious, but he has been helping that.
Coagulation - this is the first person I am more than mildly suspicious of, although less so
CubEdIn - He was above coagulation, chaoser, and jackal on earlier days. Increased suspicion.
kevconsim - He was one of my strongest town reads after the Annul wagon, less so now.
why - I felt he was likely town before, but I've been liking his play less recently
LunarDestiny - has actually helped himself somewhat with a few wall posts. Unsure.
GMarshal - associative tells with Annul and Seraph
JBright - seems like noob town, but could be noob scum
LastArgument - lurking hardcore. blue/red?
ohN - lurking hardcore. blue/red/doesn't care? He's been modkilled before
Scummy

If you actually read the PMs between GMarshal and kevconsim, it is very apparent to me that kevconsim genuinely wanted to lynch annul (which I could tell d1). He was a very strong town read on d1 for me. He is not a good lynch target in my opinion, and in fact, I will be moving him back up my list a little bit after reading those PMs. In fact, those PMs damn GMarshal even more for me, as I feel he was fishing to see what kevconsim's reaction was to JBright.

I do not believe the 4 scum are on the bottom of my list. In fact, that would surprise me way more than one of Foolishness/LSB being scum, unless RoL just randomized roles. I would fully expect a few of the middle of the road players like bumatlarge or coagulation to be scum. When I say middle of the road, I mean in terms of scumminess, not play ability.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 03 2011 23:22 GMT
#1538
On March 03 2011 16:40 Barundar wrote:
I like your list gryff, and on the whole I pretty much agree. I also think you are town. Difference between me and you is I look more at tone and arguments than at votes, but both have their right in scumhunting. Your list is objectively strong, it's only if you accept my argument on a day 1 bus on annul, that LSB moves to the bottom of it.

Kevcon voted icemac day 1, but suddenly decided to change to annul. I see him as a mafia busser.

GMarshal, Cubedin and LunarDestiny are players that I am leaning town on from their arguments and tone, but who I have problems with objectively. What have they actually done?

I have been defending OhN and LastArgument in PM's, LA based on day 1 PM behaviour, OhN beceause of his posting. But as they fall inactive and doesn't contribute, my suspecion increases.

Thanks. I don't mind tone and arguments, that is why I am suspicious of GMarshal. I feel as if he has been testing the waters on who he can get lynched in PM land towards both myself and kevonsim, I believe the FoS annul put on him, when voting someone else, was faked... and I have yet to see him really help us get rid of scum. I believe he is trying to fake being town, and this is not what I've seen from him as town. Cubedin I have been leaning town on as well, but his play has slipped a little today, and I feel he is slinging a little mud towards people who are somewhat clear.

If we lose ohn/LA, and they are town, no big deal. They are both likely modkills.

p.s., you can't even spell suspicion + Show Spoiler +
jk + Show Spoiler +
no, but really


On March 03 2011 19:28 CubEdIn wrote:
Good Yob town.

However, as I said before the lynch, we should not lose focus on either of the two.
Also, I think we should have a short discussion of who the Vig should hit (IF he were to hit someone tonight).

Do we have a solid target for a vig hit? I'd like to see people who are lurking go belly-up, JBright included.

I also don't like how Gryph is adding himself on the medic protect list just because he voted for both scum. I mean, I know it's up to the medics in the end, but I find that that move was almost as to say "I'm confirmed town".
Right now, I'm not putting it past anyone to be red, as Mafia seemed to have no issue with busing so far.

I'm not saying "I'm confirmed town",
I'm saying "mafia will possibly consider people will view me as likely town"
However, being only a green, it might be best to let me die

TL prides itself on "blue sniping", as Foolishness put it, and though he believes the person sending in the hits has been doing a good job of that, I disagree. I hope I don't eat my words on that, though.

On March 04 2011 01:43 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 22:35 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 03 2011 14:01 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, I knew it rounded-up but I didn't figure it like that. Interesting...?

How did you figure it and when did you tell RoL you wanted your .5 kp back?


I assumed when he said round-up, that you could get 4 kills if it was at 3.5. I didn't think you could throw in two roleblocks and squeak out 3 kills with 3.5.

You want to take this outside bro?

The last time I said that, or wanted to, I was scum
Just sayin'.

On March 04 2011 02:48 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2011 02:45 CubEdIn wrote:
On March 04 2011 01:43 bumatlarge wrote:
On March 03 2011 22:35 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 03 2011 14:01 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, I knew it rounded-up but I didn't figure it like that. Interesting...?

How did you figure it and when did you tell RoL you wanted your .5 kp back?


I assumed when he said round-up, that you could get 4 kills if it was at 3.5. I didn't think you could throw in two roleblocks and squeak out 3 kills with 3.5.

You want to take this outside bro?


Ok but why would mafia RB two people and kill three instead of killing four at this stage of the game.
Am I missing something here?

I don't think Rol would have allowed it.
I think he just said that he would give them an 'extra' .5 action, rather than using an entire KP which is just mad and abusive

Agree with LSB.
Also beginning to seriously shift towards him being green. He felt very.. um.. nervous? No... "up in arms" on d2, as if all he had was his voice and his vote. Now that he is somewhat clear, in my book, he has calmed down and is being very pro-town here.


I have to go meet my girlfriend and her sister for some mexican, so I didn't get to read Why's post fully yet, but I like the effort. I'll read it when I get back/time.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 08:39 GMT
#1594
On March 04 2011 12:05 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2011 12:04 GMarshal wrote:
##Vote LastArgument

Why not kevinconsim?

he was on annul, at least
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 08:48 GMT
#1595
On March 04 2011 12:19 Foolishness wrote:
GG

hey, what's funny is I was going to just type "GG" if i died.
great minds think alike, bro.

On March 04 2011 12:53 bumatlarge wrote:
gg lol high fives foolishness o/

o/


vote: LastArgument I believe mafia went against their own KP to give LA a good claim
I believe kevconsim's chewbacca defense
If LA is town, I am suspicious of ohN.
I am also believing if I die, you all should investigate the JBright wagon.


Cop/Detectives, it is time to claim, in my honest opinion
you have had multiple nights of investigations to make clears
creating town clears is very pro town, and will help us
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 14:57 GMT
#1605
Cubedin's post implies knowledge mafia doublestacked on Foolishness
He is also poisoning the well, mudslinging on relative clears from wagons.

He can say all he wants about me not being essentially clear, but I was online, voting Seraph, with it at fucking 7-7 on votecount. I could have EASILY shifted my vote to JBright without any heat being thrown on me if I was scum, saying "oh, well, at least I was on annul". Given that 14/16 people left in the game seem to be putting me in the "this guy is solidly town" category, I'm wondering if the other 2 don't KNOW I'm town... but LastArgument hasn't been counterclaimed as Veteran... so I'm wondering if his claim is legit. That would also sort of diminish my suspicion of CubedIn if he isn't lying, as it would just make the doublestack speculation. I was honestly wondering if that was the case, and if mafia did that I wouldn't blame them, so perhaps I am being a little biased in seeing him say that and associating his tone/word usage with the way scum would word that, because I would have worded it differently myself as town.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 23:27 GMT
#1635
On March 05 2011 08:20 LSB wrote:
I'm fine with that
##Vote GMarshal

I'm not.
I'd rather flip flop it, because if you're red then we don't have to lynch GMarshal at all, we can get your scumbuddy LA. It's a 2fer

On March 05 2011 00:17 CubEdIn wrote:
Ok Gryff, answer me only this:
If you were mafia and you wanted to kill Foolishness, would you only use one KP?

I don't know who's putting you on Solid town, as I didn't hear people around here coming to defend you at any point. I'm just saying, you're not addressing any of the accusations I made recently, you're using pure WIFOM "If I were mafia, would I not shift vote"??! Well I don't know man, is JB green??!? Because if they're both red it doesn't really matter who you voted for, right?

Cuz I'm sitting here trying to defend against people that automatically assume that JB is green/blue, and I have no freaking idea why that is.

I don't know what color he is; I know I've been voting at key points of 2 lynches on scum, though.

On March 05 2011 07:10 chaoser wrote:
Lynch LSB. If he's vigi then we have 100% confirmed in LA being a vet since I doubt medics protected him. If LSB is red then LA is red too.

I am for this.
LSB has lied way too many times, and has played a terrible town game. Like, if he's scum, I'll pat him on the back, but if he's town, I'm going to shake my head, especially considering how he has been tooting his own horn all game.

On March 05 2011 07:14 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2011 12:48 LSB wrote:
Again, I think we should just suggest night 3 actions

Medics, please protect Me and Foolishness.
Vigs, if you want, you should shoot Barundar. There isn't enough on Gmarshal to justify a kill.
DTs, continue checking Priority 3 people


Also LSB I call shenanigans if you wanted a vigi to shoot Barundar then you could have done it yourself, why didn't you? You have been calling for that shot for two days now, interesting that you didn't take it.

I suspect you aren't a vigi at all but a mafia godfather

This post, and the last one you made, have made me completely flip flop on my read of you from leaning scum to leaning town. I have been trying to measure you and read you all game, to no avail really, fishing for information out of you through your reaction to me trying to make terrible cases on you. Finally, you react the way I would expect town to react to something. +town points, tbh. I'm completely ready to wagon LSB, even if I believe he might be town, there is a reason people get lynched for lying multiple times (to make them improve next game).

If we don't hold people accountable for claiming green/crazy shenanigans like he has pulled, and lynch them, then chaos will rule. I'd rather have chaoser rule than chaos.

On March 05 2011 07:16 LSB wrote:
Um... why would I shoot Barundar if another vig was going to do it?

Why would you CLAIM to have hit LA?
Why wouldn't you claim to be hitting LA BEFORE you did it, at which point he could claim veteran BEFORE you did it, allowing you to hit someone like ohN who is lurking hard. I'll tell you why - because Foolishness made a great case on your scumbuddy right before he died, and you're making a terrible gamble.

Too bad I follow LAL these days.

On March 05 2011 07:27 LSB wrote:
We were clearly discussing vig hits, and I'm going to put my suggestion of Barundar in there. It's a waste of town KP I shot Barundar twice. -.-
What's so hard about that? It's my dominate strategy

I have no idea about a second vig, but hey, I didn't have any problem with shooting LA at the time so I did it.

1) you claimed green, and backtracked - a lie
2) you have been mudslinging on barundar, and said a vig should hit him - you're a "vig" - lie
3) if that's not a lie, it's a contradiction
4) LAL - lynch all liars

Vote: LSB
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 23:55 GMT
#1640
On March 05 2011 08:40 LSB wrote:
green=town aligned?

I don't understand why you guys are making these silly points -.-

You are SERIOUSLY claiming you don't know green to be townie on TL.net?
Blue is townie on Epic Mafia, for instance. It's just common knowledge.
Nice backtrack, yet again.
You are digging your hole deeper, and if you truly are town (which I doubt), you have noone to blame but yourself
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 04 2011 23:59 GMT
#1641
OH, YEAH, GUYS, SOMETHING I JUST THOUGHT OF:
We need 5 votes on someone, and no alternate wagons of 2 or more, just in case the 4 scum blitz

You may say, well, that would give them away, but would it?
We don't have the information they do!
I urge you all to come together, and consolidate, lynching LSB
I am tired of his shenanigans, and a rope is only fitting. In fact, the only thing that is fitting will be threads around his neck as he hangs.
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 05 2011 00:20 GMT
#1644
c) they are both fucking lying
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 05 2011 08:40 GMT
#1656
also, mafia may have actually hit LA, with LSB claiming it as his own "vig hit"

The only thing that is making me hesitant is the quickness of this wagon, but I guess it is obvious
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 05 2011 10:24 GMT
#1659
Just because we probably have 3-4 blues left does not mean we have a Vigilante at all
LSB has lied multiple times
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 05 2011 18:11 GMT
#1669
On March 06 2011 02:10 kevconsim wrote:
im not scum
im townie
the one with the green text

I know you are new here, and I actually believe you are a part of the village... a newer part of the village...

There is a specific term for a player like that, but I'm not going to dip into Ad Hominem if I can help it, because I've done that way too much in my life, and it doesn't help anything!

The thing is, saying "I'm town!" is great and all, but anyone can do it. If you truly are town, it is best to stay in the woodworks, so to speak. What I mean is this:
If you are just a green townie, with no abilities in the night, why would scum kill you?

I'm being hypocritical here, I know, but that is why I'm sort of getting onto you about this. If you are a cop or something, typing this, I'm going to pat you on the back. Do you want to know why? Because if you are not scum, you have done a great job convincing everyone you aren't a power role, with an ability in the night. You are very, very, very unlikely to get killed in the night by scum. A town vig? a possibility, and far greater than the chances scum will kill you, regardless of what side you are on.

I'm not saying it is good to claim green if you are a cop. It is definitely good to claim green if you are a paramedic, though. It isn't bad to claim being a cop as a green, sometimes, either... or even a paramedic if you're up for lynch... but that is iffy. It depends on the level of play in the game. If you're in an invite only game, where there is no way the doctor will counterclaim, then that wouldn't be as lame as if you did it in this game, because in this game if you made that claim then it would be hard to defend what was going on in your brain!
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 06 2011 13:02 GMT
#1928
On February 23 2011 13:47 gryffindor wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 23 2011 13:33 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, I'm just going to point this out, the number of GFs is limited. There is no way there would be 6 GFs, as that would mean 6 mafia KP, which seems a bit ridiculous. The GF is worth 1 KP it says in the OP, so if you assume a set-up of 3 KP for mafia, that means 3 GFs max, 1KP each.

Speculation:
If a grunt is worth say, .5 kp, so not the same as a GF, and fits in line with power costs, possible set-ups become something like:

3GF, 3 mafia total (3kp)
2GF 2grunts, 4 mafia total (3kp)
1GF 4grunts, 5 mafia total (3kp)

I think the last two are more likely, but we should be able to tell more accurately after the first night kills and then after RB claims are in.

Since the reds can manipulate innocents, frame, role-reverse
No, there is no straight Godfather in my opinion
I'm also very suspicious of this post:



On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)

1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright

This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss

This would get us raped by the role reverser, and is really a scummy idea
unvote;
##Vote: GMarshal


I proposed an idea like this as scum. I noticed it as a scum-motivated plan. I voted accordingly. You all should have listened!

On February 23 2011 13:50 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +

This would get us raped by the role reverser, and is really a scummy idea
unvote;
##Vote: GMarshal


did you not read the part about it being only for analysis? There will be no roleclaims in those circles, unlike you not all players feel the urge to announce their blue status to make themselves targets for mafia.

Are you tired or are you playing stupid intentionally?


On February 23 2011 14:09 gryffindor wrote:
Oh, so now you have to dip into Ad Hominem
Go ahead and crossvote with me, mafia
I'm onto you
You are playing completely differently than I saw you as town

Notice how I got onto him for his tone, even telling him I was onto him. Notice how I attacked him for meta.

On February 23 2011 16:11 gryffindor wrote:
initial reads:

people to keep alive:
gryffindor
foolishness
coagulation
kenpachi
ser aspi
-cut-

Notice my initial town reads over a week ago

On February 24 2011 19:21 gryffindor wrote:
-cut-
I would rather lynch someone through my proper sleuthery in finding tells that they have made, such as the associative tells between GMarshal and Annul that I found, which is enough for me to be happy with where my vote is.

Couple that with the fact that both have had wishy-washy voting/pushing, and with the incrimination of icemac, and I'd be surprised if two out of three weren't scum. Foolishness, however, disagrees with me on this.

His loss!


Still pushing Annul and GMarshal

On February 24 2011 10:24 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 06:29 annul wrote:
also hi. am out of class now

why arent we killing chaoser or GM?

im gonna go ##vote chaoser now myself.

Annul is teamed with gmarshal. When mafia fos someone d1 and vote someone else they are teamed with their fos. On my phone, will catch up more later. This is a huge slip for d1 though, two scum caught possibly.

Check that distancing
I bet that had them shitting themselves

On February 24 2011 20:42 gryffindor wrote:
Deconduo, do you see how a scum could propose a cell idea?

well?


I know I'm not "under pressure" exactly, but since I was pushing LSB, and he proved me wrong *tips hat*, I felt I needed somewhat of a defense up. I'm back around page 86, catching up, but I've skimmed backwards from the post seeing chaoser was mafia.

Good job guys, when I saw that on the voting thread I was like omg, they let mafia make a good ploy... but really, coagulation saved the town. Congratulations, Coagulation.

On March 05 2011 17:40 gryffindor wrote:
-cut-
The only thing that is making me hesitant is the quickness of this wagon
-cut-

see my indecisiveness? ...anyways

On March 06 2011 08:06 GMarshal wrote:
Well, at this point I'm 100% chaoser isn't scum, if he is he has put in so much effort into making his pms consistent and logical that he deserves to keep my vote. Sorry LSB, but I refuse to let you get away with this justification for lying, if it really is an elaborate town plan then you should have tested it for inconsistencies before posting it, the whole hanging the vet proves nothing point is pretty strong.

Now if I'm wrong again and choaser flips red well then on my head be it. But I dont think thats going to happen

Check this defense...
This is the 2nd scum he has defended, at least, and that is confirmed.

On March 06 2011 08:10 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2011 15:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
7. darmousseh - Medic, Night 1
.


Night 1 you say?

assuming the poor sod is still alive though, you have no reason to kill him, you get to "suggest" who he protects, and look that way you don't have to double stack foolishness. or really worry about his protects.

He then goes on to attack the fact that a medic has already died, when with 30 people 1 medic would be very underpowered.

On March 06 2011 08:16 Barundar wrote:
Lolololol, I can post Skype conversations from the entire game with Chaoser for us discussing targets. Now you are really trying hard

This is pretty damning. It's not 100%, but I'd be happy voting him for this.

On March 06 2011 08:18 LSB wrote:
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On March 06 2011 08:16 Barundar wrote:
Lolololol, I can post Skype conversations from the entire game with Chaoser for us discussing targets. Now you are really trying hard

I could post AIM conversations from the entire game with BC discussing targets. Now you are really trying hard.

Oh wait, I was mafia that game.


I could post PMs with Doctor H from the game discussing targets.

Oh wait, I was mafia that game.

Posting PMs to try to prove your town does not work and is a common mafia tactic.

I agree with this sentiment.
Usually the people who use QuickTime/MSN/IRC/AIM are scum. Yet again, it's not 100%. I've seen town circles use it. I believe it was Mafia XXX that I read where town used that?

On March 06 2011 09:53 GMarshal wrote:
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On March 06 2011 09:51 deconduo wrote:
@LSB, Jackal whoever. I'm up in 6 hours, I need my sleep. You have 10 minutes to convince me to vote for chaoser, otherwise it goes back on LSB. I'm sorry but next time you want to make a big fuckoff play like this, town or mafia, don't do it 4 hours before the deadline.


That should be a pretty good hint that its a desperation ploy rather than an actual plan, good plans are planned with time to actually work rather than pulled out of thin air with a few hours left. LSB of all people should be well aware of this

Well, that's not how it ended up. I can't tell you that I wouldn't have been doing the exact same thing as you, and questioning whether or not it was a ploy. That was my initial reaction, but after seeing LSB's bait and switch technique, I honestly am sorry that I disrespected him in the past for his ability. I'm so sad about this. Forgive me, LSB?

On March 06 2011 09:54 Coagulation wrote:
IM THE MEDIC I MEDIC PROT HIM LAST NIGHT AND BLOCKED A HIT.
LSB IS CONFIRMED TOWN.

This is what I was pushing for when GMarshal was pushing his cell idea. Medic confirmation is really good for the town.

On March 06 2011 10:05 Ace wrote:
hahahahahahahahahahahaha

^this lol
that facepalm......

On March 06 2011 10:22 kevconsim wrote:
##unvote LSB

^I told you he's a townie, guys.

On March 06 2011 12:06 Coagulation wrote:
people who voted to lynch LSB
LSB
Barundar
gryffindor
deconduo
why
chaoser
kevconsim
GMarshal
ohN

I agree with this list, except possibly why. I'm sitting on the fence on him... there should only be 3 scum left, btw.

On March 06 2011 12:07 Coagulation wrote:
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On March 06 2011 12:05 GMarshal wrote:
by the way chaoser defended LD in PM, I think I posted it already but.

+ Show Spoiler +
Original Message From chaoser:
what's with the flip flopping on the votes dude, I come back to everyone on LD...wtf. what happened to icemac vote?

Original Message From GMarshal:
I'm a really indecisive voter! I really don't think icemac is scum, if he is from now on I'll vote for whatever you do

anyway it was too late to deter the vote from ice anyway at this point we force LD to post more and can analyze the vote lists

Original Message From chaoser:
if he is i might start thinking you mafia...don't sheep after foolishness...he comes in and basically everyone goes, ok, ignore our day of talking, we'll follow you. i'mma channel anthoy weiner, representative from new york. VOTE IF YOU THINK HE'S MAFIA! DON'T VOTE IF YOU THINK HE'S NOT! DON'T SAY YOU'RE VOTING CAUSE SOMEONE ELSE SAID TO VOTE LIKE SO!

Original Message From GMarshal:
I made it pretty clear earlier that i did not think icemac was mafia, and him voting for himself pretty much convinces me of it, but LD voted for himself too to save icemac, at this point Im tempted to do like coag and jump on someone else entirely, but thats going to be a waste

chaoser
damn...looks like i was wrong =/



DUDE IF YOUR NOT MAFIA THIS GAME YOU HAVE HANDS DOWN PLAYED WORST TOWN GAME EVER POSSIBLE.

DEFEND ANNUL SOME MORE?
DEFEND CHAOSER SOME MORE?

I'm glad someone agrees with me.
You remind me of how I played this game 2 years~ or so ago, in my mafia infancy.

On March 06 2011 12:07 LSB wrote:
^you forgot Seraph

could you find where he defended seraph? I know he was all over JBright, but I didn't recall that, hence why I said he only defended 2 confirmed scum... I trust you, now, though.

On March 06 2011 21:31 CubEdIn wrote:
Wow, 10 pages.
That was a desperate attempt to keep lynch on LSB.
Almost too desperate, compared to what happened so far in the game. Makes me think that GM/Barundar could just be really stubborn townies.

But on the other hand, the mafia would put up a fight when there are only four people left, so at least some of the "anti-LSB" band must've been red. I'm still highly suspicious of gryffindor and kev atm.

you're wrong on your suspicions, and here is my defense.
I'm going to be kevconsim's lawyer, too, so address him to me.
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 06 2011 13:03 GMT
#1929
I am the 3rd medic, by the way, guys
I will be doublestacking on LSB. I don't care if I die, since some of you find me to be scum.

Where is our mad hatter at? Bombs on Barundar and GMarshal would be nice.
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 06 2011 15:02 GMT
#1934
I don't care how dumb it is, I am just letting you know that I will be on LSB tonight, and that I will probably be killed.

If you don't "feel I have contributed [as much as the veterans", read me in isolation. You will see that, in fact, I am better than many of the so called "veterans".
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 06 2011 18:22 GMT
#1937
I feel like the boy who cried wolf :[
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 07 2011 03:53 GMT
#1975
Yes, but the MOMENTS I VOTED THEM ARE KEY, AND I AM NEITHER INACTIVE, SCUMMY, NOR AN EASY WAGON.
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 07 2011 04:10 GMT
#1977
day 1 with 30 players, mafia aren't going to be pushing cases. Do you play in large games on MS often? What is your name on there?

I didn't "mysteriously disappear", I was deadset on your lynch, because you have been lying all game. I find it VERY suspicious I did not die last night, as you were the only person I claimed I wasn't a medic to. The fact I tried to get myself killed last night speaks loads.

Let's break down your pitiful post point by point.
First, you say "Yep!", but you are really just trying to be annoying
second, you make a very weak point about me making a d1 case... so I was trying to scumhunt... more than you did on d1. All you did was just scream "annul is scum annul is scum annul is scum", when it is very possible you simply knew he was scum and were throwing him under the bus, or bussing him. Side note on this, going off on a tangent, people on this site are using this term wrong. I even saw Qatol use it incorrectly, and it saddens me. To "bus" someone is not simply to bandwagon them, it only applies when mafia does it to mafia, "throwing them under the bus". Here is how you use it.

"Someone random not named annul" OK? I even pmed you to make sure that you weren't joking and trying to slide by day 1, when the voting WAS AT FIVE TO FIVE. I put the sixth vote on "your" wagon of annul, revitalizing it, but I guess you are too busy with your inflated ego of 'confirmed town' to notice this. Had I not pmed you, tallied the votes, and made a case on Annul... I could have lynched ANYONE, honestly, with the zone I was in

I easily could have lynched icemac day 1, and you know what? He called me the best poster in the game. Scum buddy town, and if I was scum, I definitely would have kept him around.

So, yeah, eat that
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 07 2011 06:29 GMT
#1987
I actually expected annul to be red, ohN, get your facts straight
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