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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
Hopefully with less anger | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
##vote gmarshal better than chaoser atm | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On February 24 2011 11:44 GMarshal wrote: No, the point is to cause otherwise inactive players to feel obliged to post, it is to increase the amount of information available, when I ask a general question like "what do you guys think about GMarshal" lurkers are free to either ignore it or jump on what one person says. By using these circles people are actually forced to voice an opinion if you guys want there is nothing stopping you from posting all the analysis you do in the circle and every random thought you have in the general thread, also its important for people to remember that it is possible that people in their circle are scum, thats part of the goal of the circle. Also nothing is stopping a player who writes a good analysis from bouncing it off people outside their circle. Although I will agree that the weakness of this circle plan is the fact that a 2 scum circle can adversely influence the townie tldr: the point of the circle is to force people to think rather than sheeping with other peoples opinions I still see problem with mandatory circles. Your point of making these circles is to encourage participation. You already acknowledge the cons of these circle so I'll leave it at that. I just came from playing orpah where I was in game made circle (lover) with zerroth. I tried pming him but he didn't respond and got lynched early. So I think even if you force inactives into circles, they wouldn't contribute if they choose not to. So your point of encouraging contribution from inactive is not worth the risk of mafia gain info from these circle. Again, I prefer people forming pm circles with people they trust. I'll give the example of XXV where barunder asked me a lot about Mr.Zergling. Because of the circle, we (he mostly) figured it out Mr.Zergling was playing a lot different. Yes, the read was negative but at least we were able to read each other as town. | ||
JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
##Vote: JBright | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On February 24 2011 12:33 annul wrote: here is the funny thing. LSB is probably upset at me for what i did to him the last mafia game, so he is going to try to do the same thing to me that i did to him. i see it coming. does it make sense? ofc not. is there literally anyone out there who actually likes this cell idea? i expect the rest of the reds to come out! The reason why LSB is going after you because of what you did that game can be only explained if LSB is mafia who know you are town. I don't see evidence that suggests so. Town would never go after who they think are non-scum. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
If anyone's confused go read Mafia XXXV | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On February 24 2011 13:03 annul wrote: ##unvote ##vote gmarshal better than chaoser atm I want to ask you for the reasons why you switched your vote. And why do you think Gmarshall is a better lynch than Chaoser. | ||
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why
United States215 Posts
On February 24 2011 13:03 annul wrote: ##unvote ##vote gmarshal better than chaoser atm And annul, why are you voting for GMarshal again? If it's because you think his plan is scummy than you should lynch a large portion of town who like it. I certainly do. In other news here is my current lynch pick: icemac His relevant posts in spoilers - + Show Spoiler + On February 24 2011 10:20 icemac wrote: Seems like shit's hitting the wall pretty hard without any real leads so far. Since its too early, why not just get a semi-active who is probably smart enough to keep their heads in the game but not smart enough to post big as a mafia. I guess this is ironic coming from me seeing as how I've just got up to date & posting. On February 24 2011 10:22 icemac wrote: Also, I just want to say that these cell things is either big balls move by mafia or the workings of bad play. On February 24 2011 10:39 icemac wrote: Analysis doesn't mean shit Day 1. I don't see why you feel so compelled to pull stuff out of your ass and call it high level analysis. On February 24 2011 10:41 icemac wrote: I'm proposing we kill 0 of annul, GMarshal, gryffindor, chaoser and play it by ear afterwards. On February 24 2011 12:12 icemac wrote: Imo, we just need to get a vote out. With so many mafia on the floor, its trivial for them to just sweep something under the carpet. He has a reasonable activity level if you just look at the post count, but really he has said absolutely nothing. He says who we should vote for in a general sense, but avoids naming names. The one post that he does mention names in he basically just takes the top 4 most active players with no further explanation. He seems to be forcing himself to post when he doesn't actually have anything to say, so as to give the illusion of contribution. ##Vote: icemac | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
##vote: Annul justify your vote | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
maybe he is just another town who is also bad and came up with a bad idea, but ;\ | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
##unvote: annul | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
Will reread and post tomorrow, just took a midterm (aced it) and finished a 6 page paper in 2 hours and running on no sleep. Night all, hopefully we have a more peaceful town tomorrow. Angry town=town not working at it's fullest. Emotions get the best of us and then mafia can sway us easily. Remember, this is not just a logic game, it's also an emotional one. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
I 100% agree with him that any claim is counterproductive whether to "confirmed" town or not. The host specifically stated there are mechanics in this game to punish us for salem. and i can tell you from what information i have gathered in PMLAND that he was not kidding about this. I Dont think There is an active scum presence in the thread yet at this point. as far as LSB and annul GO.. classic case of a 2 townie pissing contest. Cant say i find any information coming out of it of any value yet. gryff is looking scummy to me more and more as he relentlessly defends his mass claim "standard play" when there is clearly HOST SUGGESTIONS to avoid that scenario (wtf r u thiNkIN) | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
I'm happy voting him for the opposite of your reasoning, though, in that he doesn't want a GMarshal lynch. I would join his wagon if it gets to the point where we need to consolidate. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
LSB, I cannot believe I just read an entire page of you and annul fighting again. Seriously there is no reason to get drawn into that again if you are town. And why are you voting for annul? You say that he is playing similarly to XXXV in that he is tunneling a player early. The (obvious) difference is that this game he isn't really pushing for GMarshal or chaoser's lynch like he did yours, he's just sort of putting their names out there. I feel like you are just voting for annul because you don't like him and not because you think he's mafia. Exactly, I've already explained why Annul is a horrible choice as we go to lylo. In addition, Annul is playing pretty scummy you can read my responses to his posts. Its a two for one deal. [quote] In other news here is my current lynch pick: icemac He has a reasonable activity level if you just look at the post count, but really he has said absolutely nothing. He says who we should vote for in a general sense, but avoids naming names. The one post that he does mention names in he basically just takes the top 4 most active players with no further explanation. He seems to be forcing himself to post when he doesn't actually have anything to say, so as to give the illusion of contribution. [/QUOTE] When I read through those posts, I see Icemanic supporting Annul's thoughts against the plan. In addition "day 1 analysis doesn't matter" is something I always watch out for as scum defence of scumbudie. To me, if Annul is mafia, icemanic isn't looking so hot.[/spoiler] | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
My massclaim is to ONE PERSON who will be CONFIRMED through night actions That is how you play mafia as a town, you confirm a doctor or a vigilante through a protection or a kill. If it's a vigilante kill, it better be on mafia, or pre-called and you better hope the mafia don't skimp on killing power as opposed to previous nights, so the vigilante idea could be easily manipulated into submission. A protection, however, would give us a clear for a day. Cross-referencing counterclaims is how we would be able to create lynch-pools, or at the least be able to hold people accountable for their night actions in PMs, as opposed to in the thread which would enable mafia to counteract us with their role reversal mechanic. Just sayin'  | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On February 24 2011 14:14 why wrote: LSB, I cannot believe I just read an entire page of you and annul fighting again. Seriously there is no reason to get drawn into that again if you are town. And why are you voting for annul? You say that he is playing similarly to XXXV in that he is tunneling a player early. The (obvious) difference is that this game he isn't really pushing for GMarshal or chaoser's lynch like he did yours, he's just sort of putting their names out there. I feel like you are just voting for annul because you don't like him and not because you think he's mafia. Exactly, I've already explained why Annul is a horrible choice as we go to lylo. In addition, Annul is playing pretty scummy you can read my responses to his posts. Its a two for one deal. In other news here is my current lynch pick: icemac He has a reasonable activity level if you just look at the post count, but really he has said absolutely nothing. He says who we should vote for in a general sense, but avoids naming names. The one post that he does mention names in he basically just takes the top 4 most active players with no further explanation. He seems to be forcing himself to post when he doesn't actually have anything to say, so as to give the illusion of contribution. When I read through those posts, I see Icemanic supporting Annul's thoughts against the plan. In addition "day 1 analysis doesn't matter" is something I always watch out for as scum defence of scumbudie. To me, if Annul is mafia, icemanic isn't looking so hot. | ||
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gryffindor
United States524 Posts
On February 24 2011 15:14 Coagulation wrote: I Should mention i talked with ROL in PM and he may have shared some information relevant to the nature of this setup and from what little i could decipher or gather of it so far claiming seems to be the wrong way to go. claiming, to a confirmed, in PM.. on like DAY 2 or DAY 3. I'm not saying claim on d1, although if you all wanted to claim to me that would work. | ||
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