EPTTL Mafia XXXVII - Page 29
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
do we swap to an inactive now or just wait it out? | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
i have great reads on both of them, but i dont know what else i need to say about it. can you tell me why chaoser and GM are NOT red? the cells idea is horrible. why do we want to keep analysis private? there is no point in "bouncing off ideas" to a RNG "town circle". this only hurts us. why keep analysis of any type from the town? also, the point of these town circles is what exactly? to have people critique any analysis before "revealing" it? ok assume that is the case, then what happens when the mafia are in these cells? player A says "OK so i got an analysis on player D (outside the cell), who i think is mafia" player B says "no thats horrible, ________" and convinces A. A now doesnt say anything, to not look stupid (that IS the point of these cells, after all!). oops, B and D are mafia. we're fucked. if A just came out and said "hey i have this analysis" B is probably less likely to defend D if it's blatant redness | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On February 24 2011 11:39 GMarshal wrote: I would agree to pressure an inactive, does astroorion sound good to people? btw i forgot to add I really want to hear an opinion we havent heard yet we know annuls stance we know Marshals stance. My stance is unless we get a really solid lynch we go inactive or someone whos playing outright terribly. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 24 2011 11:39 annul wrote: ok well i mean i have great reads on both of them, but i dont know what else i need to say about it. can you tell me why chaoser and GM are NOT red? the cells idea is horrible. why do we want to keep analysis private? there is no point in "bouncing off ideas" to a RNG "town circle". this only hurts us. why keep analysis of any type from the town? also, the point of these town circles is what exactly? to have people critique any analysis before "revealing" it? ok assume that is the case, then what happens when the mafia are in these cells? player A says "OK so i got an analysis on player D (outside the cell), who i think is mafia" player B says "no thats horrible, ________" and convinces A. A now doesnt say anything, to not look stupid (that IS the point of these cells, after all!). oops, B and D are mafia. we're fucked. if A just came out and said "hey i have this analysis" B is probably less likely to defend D if it's blatant redness No, the point is to cause otherwise inactive players to feel obliged to post, it is to increase the amount of information available, when I ask a general question like "what do you guys think about GMarshal" lurkers are free to either ignore it or jump on what one person says. By using these circles people are actually forced to voice an opinion if you guys want there is nothing stopping you from posting all the analysis you do in the circle and every random thought you have in the general thread, also its important for people to remember that it is possible that people in their circle are scum, thats part of the goal of the circle. Also nothing is stopping a player who writes a good analysis from bouncing it off people outside their circle. Although I will agree that the weakness of this circle plan is the fact that a 2 scum circle can adversely influence the townie tldr: the point of the circle is to force people to think rather than sheeping with other peoples opinions | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 24 2011 12:01 annul wrote: i dont think circles actually force people to think. they inhibit it. and circles with mafia in them can really fuck with the townies. how do they inhibit thinking? I'm curious as to why you think that | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
did you not read what i said like 10 minutes ago | ||
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
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JBright
Vancouver14381 Posts
Yes, there are a few inactive players (myself included up to this post). I will probably give one of them a pressure vote until they post or a substantially better candidate pops up. Maybe I'm a bit naive or just inexperienced at this game, but none of the posts so far seem too scummy to me. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On February 24 2011 12:06 OriginalName wrote: Inactive in thread will still be inactive in PMs. but its less likely to happen if you have someone asking your opinion and thoughts every day or so, I mean I know that when I was new I didn't post as much because it was terrifying, I'm not saying it will magically make everyone active but it should at least encourage activity, at the very least the other members of the circle will realize the person is inactive and will make sure it dosn't go by unnoticed I still dont see how the circle inhibits thinking, part of playing mafia is being confident in your analysis, if someone thinks your analysis is awful you go ahead and post it in the main thread, if others think its good then congrats you may have uncovered scum, if they also think its awful then its a learning experience... | ||
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RLTY
United States965 Posts
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
On February 24 2011 12:11 GMarshal wrote: but its less likely to happen if you have someone asking your opinion and thoughts every day or so, I mean I know that when I was new I didn't post as much because it was terrifying, I'm not saying it will magically make everyone active but it should at least encourage activity, at the very least the other members of the circle will realize the person is inactive and will make sure it dosn't go by unnoticed I still dont see how the circle inhibits thinking, part of playing mafia is being confident in your analysis, if someone thinks your analysis is awful you go ahead and post it in the main thread, if others think its good then congrats you may have uncovered scum, if they also think its awful then its a learning experience... Personally reapeated deaths deterrified me into me just wanting to post more i never really had PMs as i played in games without them but I really dont think it would prod me that hard. just my opinion. | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Ser Aspi
France84 Posts
So you think that mafia will have no trouble at all keeping up with their town portrayal and pm portrayal and making sure both are congruent? lol Of course this is harder for mafia than just worrying about not being caught in the thread, why would we not do it. The main, only danger is that townies would blabber too much about their role or trust too easily in their partners and be manipulated to mafia ends. That is why whoever you pm needs to be treated as another suspect, someone that you are trying to get extra information out of, not a long time buddy etc. I don't particularly care for randomized groups or whatever; I pm who I want. But it's a good initiative, the only real unique contribution from anyone. The real scrutiny should be on those who are dissing it for terrible reasons. Some are probably town but they are pushing things mafia want and I wouldn't be surprised if a mafia or two is amongst them. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
why the fuck does everyone smurf? why are you all afraid of your skill? | ||
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RLTY
United States965 Posts
On February 24 2011 11:31 kitaman27 wrote: Players to give evil glares to: darmousseh (0 posts) JBright (0 posts) MaxwellE (0 posts, replacement) ICanFlyLow (0 posts) LSB (0 posts, claims to have a life outside the game, but I find that hard to believe) Beneather (1 post, apparently reading the last few pages for the last 6 hours) Barundar (1 post, claims to not be able to read the thread until tomorrow) astroorion (1 posts, declares that he is indeed alive) CubEdIn (2 posts) Where are these people? | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
I'm reading the threads now to see if there is any scummy play going on. | ||
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