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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 15 2011 02:46 GMT
#2541
man with the plan=me
squareout=cubed
we win=annul
LaDoom=LD
Mabell=Seraph
2dec=deconduo
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
March 15 2011 02:49 GMT
#2542
On March 15 2011 11:33 GMarshal wrote:
a Ver smurf? /flabbergasted I knew LA was BC from the haunted analysis thread I think it was and I recalled that Ser Aspi was mentioned as a possible smurf at some point in a thread, somewhere (can you tell I spend too long reading the mafia forums?)

Ver totally stole my awesome smurf name! (Ser Aspi = Res Ipsa backwards, it's a tort concept but looks like it was just stolen from a George Martin book or something)
Uff Da
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 15 2011 02:50 GMT
#2543
On March 15 2011 11:44 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:35 kitaman27 wrote:
Grats town! ^_^

I would be interested to hear the mafia strategy as they probably had the least amount of thread presence I've ever seen.

Thanks for hosting RoL/Meapak.


Pretty much nothing. annul had this whole idea day 1 to draw fake heat onto himself but too many town got on him that in the end he got lynched. After that pretty much mafia went inactive except for me and dec I think. Seraph disappeared for a long time and then came back and disappeared minutes before he was suppose to claim blue to buy us another day. Then LD disappeared for a weekend. Cubed just didn't post a lot in thread or in QT. I started a IRC but aside from LD and, once in a while, Seraph (once), I think RoL was the person that most frequented it and talked to me. I was more organized with Barundar and GMarshal than my own team I felt like at times lol. After a while my only goal was to get to LYLO cause I had 6 votes in my hand at the time, all 4 mafia + barundar and GM which would give me majority as long as we got to 6 first over the other candidate. If town wasn't organized it was ezpz. LSB would have gotten lynched too if MK hadn't confirmed him I feel like and I wasn't out celebrating my birthday (2 hours till end of day, sigh). I knew dec and I had townies thinking we were town so as long as we got to LYLO we would have won. But then I got lynched and from then on it was GG

Sorry about that whole getting you lynched thing. Coag put it best. "You just pulled chaoser's name out of your ass didn't you?"

Well ya I did. Your name was on the Foolishness/Ser Apsi list. Not on ours.
Everybody else matched. So I threw your name out there to see if it would stick. It did. Some days it's better to be lucky than good.
Life can only kill you once.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 15 2011 03:08 GMT
#2544
it's ok lol, town played well. Foolishness pretty much raped our list. Between Cubed not contributing and LD making a HUGE slip, we dug our own hole. I got lucky with finding out the blues from day 1
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:23:36
March 15 2011 03:21 GMT
#2545
On March 15 2011 12:08 chaoser wrote:
it's ok lol, town played well. Foolishness pretty much raped our list. Between Cubed not contributing and LD making a HUGE slip, we dug our own hole. I got lucky with finding out the blues from day 1

My "pm slip" with foolishness is really me not taking his pm seriously.
My inactivity is just me being busy.

Excuse. Excuse. Excuse.

But really. If I have enough time to play, I could have been less scummy.

QUESTION TO FOOLISHNESS:
HOW THE FUCK YOU FIGURED OUT THAT THERE WAS A DISTORT IN KP ON NIGHT 2?
DID YOU GET OUTSIDE HELP?
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
March 15 2011 03:24 GMT
#2546
On February 26 2011 12:10 Coagulation wrote:
you can still be a winner wiggles
we can still win this for town


Hell yeah. Nice job, town. Looked like a fun game, too bad I got murdered night 1. :p
you gotta dance
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
March 15 2011 03:26 GMT
#2547
On March 15 2011 12:24 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2011 12:10 Coagulation wrote:
you can still be a winner wiggles
we can still win this for town


Hell yeah. Nice job, town. Looked like a fun game, too bad I got murdered night 1. :p

DON'T FUCKING BLUE SLIP IN PM CIRCLES

AND THAT GOES TWICE FOR YOU DARMOUSSEH
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
March 15 2011 03:28 GMT
#2548
On March 15 2011 11:34 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:21 Kavdragon wrote:
On March 15 2011 11:14 GMarshal wrote:
...Ser Aspi, best "new" players


lol.

lol.

Anyways, I'll use 2999 on this.

I would like to congratulate Gmarshal. You have redeemed yourself. You are pro. Thank you soo much for winning this!

I would like to apologize on the townies I stepped on. This game I just focused on getting people lynched. Guns forward, barrels blazing.

And as for bait and switch, click the spoiler if you want to know what it was all about.
+ Show Spoiler +

BC contacted me and said he was LastArgument and that Foolishness and Ser Apasi turned on him.
So I decide that BC could claim a hit, and I would say that I hit him.
Didn't go as well as I planned, so I was thinking of just letting the town lynch me.
Jackal then starts running in yelling that I'm lying, so I was like. Okay, I got to pull together some BS and sell it to the town.

And what do you know. It worked.

(It wasn't completely BS, it was based off an idea I had with Coagulation about using it to bait some mafia. I then added the switch to get the lynch off of me)

And I would like to thank the host RoL, for "rnging" a completely imbalanced town and mafia. Seriously, mafia was 100% full of vets, but the town had the older vets.

And I'd like to thank Ver/Foolishness for playing with us. BC doesn't count.



Hey I set an awesome trap that snagged decon nicely, all you guys had to do was pass that info on to guarentee his lynch later -_-
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 15 2011 03:29 GMT
#2549
darmo 10

02-24-2011 04:15 PM ET (US)
Hey guys, sorry i'm so busy, the survivor game takes up a lot of time. I agree with the LaL policy as it is very rare that a townie needs to lie. Yeah, not sure about jackal either, but it's really hard to go off anything yet. I'm always really confused on day 1. Do we plan on claiming to each other? If one of you guys are scum, then that could spell disaster for the rest of us.


The slip lol
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 03:33:17
March 15 2011 03:32 GMT
#2550
On March 15 2011 11:34 LSB wrote:
Anyways, I'll use 2999 on this.


If that was 2999, then where did 3000 go? I smell a conspiracy! :o
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 15 2011 03:34 GMT
#2551
On March 15 2011 12:29 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
darmo 10

02-24-2011 04:15 PM ET (US)
Hey guys, sorry i'm so busy, the survivor game takes up a lot of time. I agree with the LaL policy as it is very rare that a townie needs to lie. Yeah, not sure about jackal either, but it's really hard to go off anything yet. I'm always really confused on day 1. Do we plan on claiming to each other? If one of you guys are scum, then that could spell disaster for the rest of us.


The slip lol

hahaha....
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 15 2011 03:36 GMT
#2552
On March 15 2011 12:32 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:34 LSB wrote:
Anyways, I'll use 2999 on this.


If that was 2999, then where did 3000 go? I smell a conspiracy! :o

Ohh, you'll see it in a few weeks.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 15 2011 03:39 GMT
#2553
On March 15 2011 11:40 kevconsim wrote:




Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:34 LSB wrote:
On March 15 2011 11:21 Kavdragon wrote:
On March 15 2011 11:14 GMarshal wrote:
...Ser Aspi, best "new" players


lol.

lol.

Anyways, I'll use 2999 on this.

I would like to congratulate Gmarshal. You have redeemed yourself. You are pro. Thank you soo much for winning this!

I would like to apologize on the townies I stepped on. This game I just focused on getting people lynched. Guns forward, barrels blazing.

And as for bait and switch, click the spoiler if you want to know what it was all about.
+ Show Spoiler +

BC contacted me and said he was LastArgument and that Foolishness and Ser Apasi turned on him.
So I decide that BC could claim a hit, and I would say that I hit him.
Didn't go as well as I planned, so I was thinking of just letting the town lynch me.
Jackal then starts running in yelling that I'm lying, so I was like. Okay, I got to pull together some BS and sell it to the town.

And what do you know. It worked.

(It wasn't completely BS, it was based off an idea I had with Coagulation about using it to bait some mafia. I then added the switch to get the lynch off of me)

And I would like to thank the host RoL, for "rnging" a completely imbalanced town and mafia. Seriously, mafia was 100% full of vets, but the town had the older vets.

And I'd like to thank Ver/Foolishness for playing with us. BC doesn't count.




You dont want to congratulate me?

I CONTROLLED THIS WHOLE GAME

Btw, sorry for lying to you in PMs. I was hopeing you were mafia so you would have role reversed coagulation.
But hey, you won lylo, Kevcousin Pown!!!

Same thing for why. Sorry for trying to goad you into suspecting random people!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
March 15 2011 04:03 GMT
#2554
Just want to give some credit to coag... This was his scum list night 3. Now if only he could convince people.

Original Message From Coagulation:
Show nested quote +
Original Message From Kavdragon:
I lol'd when I found out you were medic again.

So, I have the role list, but in the spirit of learning, would you mind sharing some of your thoughts on who you think is scum?


CubEdIn
GMarshal
deconduo
LunarDestiny

could be any of them
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 15 2011 04:18 GMT
#2555
On March 15 2011 12:21 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 12:08 chaoser wrote:
it's ok lol, town played well. Foolishness pretty much raped our list. Between Cubed not contributing and LD making a HUGE slip, we dug our own hole. I got lucky with finding out the blues from day 1

My "pm slip" with foolishness is really me not taking his pm seriously.
My inactivity is just me being busy.

Excuse. Excuse. Excuse.

But really. If I have enough time to play, I could have been less scummy.

QUESTION TO FOOLISHNESS:
HOW THE FUCK YOU FIGURED OUT THAT THERE WAS A DISTORT IN KP ON NIGHT 2?
DID YOU GET OUTSIDE HELP?

Yeah I realized that it wasn't a slip, hence I decided to lay off you for the time being. After you started going inactive I was pretty sure again you were mafia...but by that time I was dead =P

There were 3 kills night 1 and 4 kills night 2. There were not enough roleblock claims to effect this. There had to have been a distortion otherwise:

1) There was a town KP used night 2: obviously not true since nobody claimed to hit or anything (I didn't see any reason why the person wouldn't, or wouldn't at least claim to someone they trusted who would tell everyone in the thread).

2) Mafia used extra abilities night 1: this doesn't make much sense at all. Why use extra abilities day 1 when you have little or no information? The only reason they would is if they were sure they found blue roles or knew who DTs were checking. Given it was day 1 there is little to no reason to suspect mafia had some information that the town didn't (unless they were doing some pro-blue fishing behind the scenes). Also, Coagulation didn't flip day 1 as medic, so that ruled out him claiming to a mafia.

Given that, something was wrong with the night kills.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 15 2011 04:19 GMT
#2556
my playstyle makes it impossible to read me however it also at the same time makes it impossible to get people to listen to me.. however this is why i usually claim night 1 to a seasoned player and let my scumhunting abilities be voiced through them.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6789 Posts
March 15 2011 05:28 GMT
#2557
Coag you got so lucky I fucked up
I have finals the next two days but after that I'll write something a little longer.
Oh and I sure hope LSB's gambit doesn't become standard town play.
gj town, well played everyone. Thanks for making this entertaining and informing to watch :D
I hope my mistake and sloppy modkill didn't make this game too unbearable.
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Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 15 2011 05:36 GMT
#2558
On March 15 2011 11:49 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 11:33 GMarshal wrote:
a Ver smurf? /flabbergasted I knew LA was BC from the haunted analysis thread I think it was and I recalled that Ser Aspi was mentioned as a possible smurf at some point in a thread, somewhere (can you tell I spend too long reading the mafia forums?)

Ver totally stole my awesome smurf name! (Ser Aspi = Res Ipsa backwards, it's a tort concept but looks like it was just stolen from a George Martin book or something)


Well, you didnt complain about it last time he played!
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
March 15 2011 05:45 GMT
#2559
I feel like I provided a lage part of the entertainment

Not sure what it is about LSB's playstyle that just pushes the wrong buttons for me. Glad that I at least wasn't completely wrong on day 1 being a bus.

Well done in the end game town, and props to chaoser for playing me like a pro.
Bartundar
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
March 15 2011 06:19 GMT
#2560
Besides that, great town showing in a game that heavily favored mafia. Effectively a buffed up 4 KP 6 person mafia with a bunch of fun powers to choose form (normal is a 3 KP 6 person mafia), versus a nerfed 6 blues (7 is normal). One of the blues (cop) was practically useless if mafia played correctly. The lack of town KP made it harsh on the town. 5 modkills didn't help, yes, but this was still way close for the town. Town missed 2 lynches, made 6 correct lynches, and still barely won. Mafia was way too passive, and couldn't outargue Foolishness/Ser Aspi to derail the lynches. Both mislynches were due mainly to townie mistakes.

Props to deconduo for doing a great job staying off the radar the whole game, and chaoser for sniping the important blues off early. Also Foolishness and Ser Aspi for being imposing in the thread, having good analysis, and generally controlling the game.

GMarshal did a good job day 1. You were the most active pro-town player, but the sudden dropoff made you lose all that potential. The PM cells were a decent idea, but the main point here is it got the discussion started. The problem though, was that it wasn't the right kind of discussion. Your "pressure votes" didn't do a good job at keeping the thread going, and your focus on the plan went too far, as you kept discussing it when the game had already begun to move on (suspects, the annul/chaoser deal was BIG and you didn't really capitalize on your ability to make a judgment and get things going). Wishy washiness and indecisiveness crippled your credibility day 1, as was your overreaction to pointing yourself out as a now suspicious character. Of course your other mafia defenses weren't very good either, but the point is that you shouldn't just drop off the face of the game. Yes, its hard to want to keep playing when you were on the wrong side of things multiple times. But one thing you shouldn't do (which mafia like to do) is make a big bang in the beginning of the game attempting to be helpful, then drop off the radar later in the game, when you know people aren't looking to lynch you (even after day 2 there really was no serious attempt to lynch you). Overall though, you caught my eye for showing lots of potential, so keep it up.
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