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so, some stuff from that, kev was in the majority of EVERY lynch, most of which had at least two scum already in it. However decon seemed to tunnel lsb pretty hard which actually matches up with chaosers goal, however while chaoser used his vote to try to protect scum it seems like decon's stayed on LSB which feels townie to me, nothing that clearly screams scum on either
Alright decon, why I'm NOT mafia:
If I am then I am a moron, I mean I defended every single scum and wasted all my votes, I think I was in 1 or two actual lynches, in all the others my vote was somewhere else, hell I wasn't even on the annul bus (And it was a bus, 3 scum were on it early on). Generally if I'm the GF then I've played it terribly. Hell I defended chaoser to the bitter end, convinced that he was town, if I were scum than that would have been a really stupid move. So yeah, I guess my incompetence as a townie is what proves I'm not scum.
Much like you I was utterly flabbergasted that coag would claim to LSB day 1, as a matter of fact until Mepack confirmed it I didn't believe a word of it. And in my defense I did defend icemac and gryff as being townies.
As for cases against you and kev its going to have to wait till tomorrow morning, I have a crapton of work left to do, although I'll keep the thread open to see what develops
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and this is my chance! Im a two kill day vig!
##Kill Kevconism ##Kill deconduo
Town wins
+ Show Spoiler +don't I wish
Really though I'll think about my vote tonight and get back to you guys before the deadline
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Alright, decon you know I was leaning towards you not being scum, and then I saw the kill pattern, noticeably the fact that I survived the night.
So let me analyze this from a killer's perspective shall I? Lets assume I'm kevoconism and I am the scum GF, now I'm looking at who is left as a viable target and its
Why Decon GMarshal
now as kev I have this wonderful PM from why sitting in my inbox saying that if I survive the night I'm going to hang decon, and I have nothing from GMarshal except suspicions from earlier in the thread. Why in the 9 hells of bator would I choose to hit why, who THINKS I'M TOWN? that kill makes absolutely no sense from that perspective, instead I would hit GMarshal and have the game in the bag... but notice how I the gullible one survived the night
Lets look at it from a deconduo perspective shall we? I am decon the mafia GF and I'm looking at my targets for the night:
Why Kevconism GMarshal
Now, I could go after GMarshal who I know to be both gullible AND scummy looking, an easy lynch is I can persuade kev, which should not be a challenge. So why would I kill him?
Kev would be an ok target but then I have to convince GMarshal that why is scum or why that GM is scum and why has said that GM is probably town, now that would be a challenge, considering why is a pretty decent player who might make good arguments against me.
Or I could take out why, who is clearly the best player from those who are still left alive, as insurance I'll even use .5 kp to reverse him first. Then its a simple task of convincing kev that GM is scum because he has defended scum all game long.
That was a mistake, you should have hit kev, I was more than willing to believe why as a scum player, however I didn't post it to avoid him targeting me at night
For completness sake lets consider it from GMarshal's view point as well. Lets say I am the GF and I'm looking at possible targets for tonight
Why Decon kevconism
I could go after why who has already told me that he thinks Decon is the GF but that would be eliminating a very useful ally. I could also take out Decon who is my likely lynchee for tomorrow but that would be moronic, or I could take out kevconism who is a useless player who's vote I'm unsure of. There the logical move would be to eradicate kev and count on why following through with his plan.
So logically the only person who would kill why at this point in the endgame is you deconduo
Which means you are deconduo the Mafia Godfather
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without further ado
##Vote deconduo
Town Victory!
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and are you sure you are town kevconsim?
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On March 15 2011 03:42 Jackal58 wrote: I now pronounce you man and wife. Silence foul undead! don't make me break out the holy water and stakes.
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Well I thought chaoser was town, so I don't think my post analysis is good enough to make a judgment either way (on anyone). However I am decent with puzzles and logic and this kill only makes sense if it was preformed by you. Also jackal and why trusted kev, so why not? He comes off to me as a new but active player.
Sorry deconduo, but I've proven that every time I trust my thoughts on posts I end up siding with scum, so until i train my scum sense its down to voting analysis and logic and kill logic says you preformed the kills.
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If I'm wrong well then it will only be the 5th time this game...
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You are right, my defense of chaoser was a sheep move as well as me being the only guy defending icemac, yep I'm a sheep.
Assume I am sheeping then. Its irrelevant, i've already proven that my judgment is suspect. every single independent decision I've made this game has sucked, I chose to trust the wrong people, I defended and sided with scum on every occasion. I've proven that I have to leave the big guns to analyze while I limit myself to what I'm good at.
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You call it WIFOM, i call it logic combined with past behavior. Looking at your posts you never actually really weigh in definitively on anything, your only contribution is the thing about DTs in day one and it proved to be absolutely worthless, I think you played a magnificent game of lurking, staying in the shadows and avoiding being called out for it.
Satisfy my curiosity, what role are you?
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I like how you don't care who changes their vote as long as someone does, pretty revealing.
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Alright, I was hoping for a blue claim at this point, it would have been pretty revealing. And btw annul was definetly a bus with 3/10 scum on the wagon, as a matter of fact there was no lynch with less than two scum on the wagon as far as I can tell so I have to say that scum had a pretty bussy policy this game. (and hell it might even still pay off)
So yeah I would have no difficulty believing that you bussed, well pretty much anyone, also your "I'm torn" vote with chaoser was pretty interesting, almost as if you knew what he was going to flip and jumped ship ahead of time
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oh kevconism, do you mind claiming too?
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##Vote kevconism
something is rotten in the state of Denmark
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The titles match the ones I have, my timestamp says 3/13/11 03:56 though
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Actualy I only have the End game one with the 3/13/11 03:56 timestamp from why, that's it
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the PMs seem legit, still though decon looking over your posts you seem townish to me, and despite my qualms I'm going to trust my gut one last time, vote with me? If you are scum then Insane will really be my redemption game rather than this one
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On March 15 2011 07:37 kevconsim wrote:
i will never play another mafia game again.
Your choice
and that is a modkillable offense IIRC, hopefully you'll only get a warning
damnit, bad kev, don't you recognize a gambit when you see it? decon wants to vote with me so bad he is probably salivating, he is just waiting to make a decent post where he justifies it, and then bam, I have him in the bag, I coudn't just tell you on the off chance you were scum
*fumes*
##unvote ##Vote deconduo
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if you get modkilled for that post I'm slapping you with a large tuna
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