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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 08 2011 23:53 GMT
#2081
On March 09 2011 08:30 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 08:27 gryffindor wrote:
On March 09 2011 08:18 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 09 2011 08:17 gryffindor wrote:
On March 09 2011 08:16 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 09 2011 07:08 gryffindor wrote:So, I'm weird, and abrasive... get over it
Are you willing to put your neck on the line for our other mislynch after I die, Jackal?

I never said you were abrasive. Your game play is for lack of a better word - weird. Actually I think I called it insane.
And yes if it is for the better good of town I will gladly die.

I hope the town don't hold you to that, actually, because I'm fairly certain you're just a village idiot

If I am it's just in the game. Must be a terrible burden for you sir.

I wouldn't expect any less out of a Steelers fan

Let's keep this focused on the game and not the people playing the game, please.

read his nested quote implying that i was a village idiot outside the game
the fact that he is right is hurtful
how come in sports (mafia is somewhat competitive like a sport) the guy doing it 2nd is always the one getting caught?
just sayin'

i was joking because i was actually hurt by his comment, considering what is going on in my life right now, which you somewhat know about
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:02 GMT
#2082
ok, back on track.
Deconduo raises a very valid point, that Barundar and LD are likely to tack votes onto me if ohN is mafia.

1) this isn't that bad.
a. when i flip town, they will both appear suspiciously
b. the problem is ohN might not be mafia.... but if he isn't, he will be a LYLObility
c. I myself am someone of a liability in LYLO, as a lot of people I believe are town would likely hammer me

2) if b, they might actually tack votes onto ohN
a. this might lead to c. with our next mislynch, which isn't bad either, although I have improved a LOT in terms of catching scum in lylo. I could link you to a game where I won for the town in a 5 way lylo with 3 town and 2 scum based upon deductive reasoning... so, even if, admittedly, i am not that good in lylo, I have greatly improved
b. him having little resistance, other than a townie wagon on me which feels like it is actually coming mainly from town, is actually sort of fishy


i mean, i have town reads on kev, ser aspi, deconduo, lsb, coag, jackal, and myself... this just feels like a mess to me

3) lets explore c a little
a. i claimed veteran to elicit reactions - this, regrettably, is coming back to bite me in the ass
b. i then switched to the fact that i am blue/townie/villager/green - truth
c. i tried to switch that i was "the other doctor" to get nightkilled, messaging LSB

so yeah, LAL, I probably deserved to be lynched. Sorry if I have ruined any friendships this game. Am I nuts? I don't think so. I won't be doing any unnecessary claiming next game, because it really hurts the town, but you all can't help that - only I can.
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:07 GMT
#2083
"Standard voting format applies."

- Jackal's vote is not bolded, is that in the rules?

Assuming it still counts, here is the vote count:

5 - Gryffindor (first)
5 - ohN

1st jackal, 2nd coag, 3rd lsb, 4th ohn, 5th cubedin
1st why, 2nd gryffindor, 3rd deconduo, 4th kevconsim, 5th Ser Aspi

as of right now, I will still be lynched.
i got blisters on me fingers
Ser Aspi
Profile Joined January 2010
France84 Posts
March 09 2011 00:12 GMT
#2084
Well interesting while posting that 2 more people voted for ohn. This might get close.

Regardless ohn's post history doesn't look good for him at all.

Day 1:

On February 25 2011 10:26 ohN wrote:
Icemac is probably town. Bad d1 lynch target. Looks more like a bad/aggressive player than scum.

I'm still not convinced annul is a good lynch.
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2011 07:25 LSB wrote:
Storytime! Why Annul was an easy read in XXXV
1) He mad up stuff and pushed stuff that didn't exist
Check, this game he's pushing GMarshal, saying GMarshal is clear mafia, although there is literally nothing in his accusation
2) Besides responses, he posted nothing else
Look at Annul's posts. How many of his posts deal with things other than Gmarshal or defending himself? I can't find any.

Annul's not pushing GM that hard, he simply pointed out that GM had a bad idea and is calling him out on it. I don't think he ever said "GM is clear mafia." GM DID propose an arguably terrible plan; how come nobody else is calling him out for that? Annul's not looking any more scum than GM here in my eyes.

Barundar's accusation of Jackal is definitely not convincing but it's not utter crap either. It's an interesting point to look back to in the near future. Slight FoS on Jackal imo.

And finally, why is gryff not getting lynched?
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 15:20 gryffindor wrote:
the HOST actually told me it was a good idea.

Blatant lie here.

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 17:26 gryffindor wrote:
On February 23 2011 13:19 GMarshal wrote:
for arguments sake going to create analysis cells, use them for informational analysis
(even assuming I were scum there is no way) I could ensure each has a mafia member in it as there isn't enough mafia to go around (I am trying to put at least 1 TL vet in each) as the game progresses and people die we can have new cells form. (also you are free to create your own parallel cells)

1. Coagulation, LSB, gryffindor
2 GMarshal, seRapH, OriginalName
3 Mr. Wiggles, ICanFlyLow, kevconsim
4 Barundar, LastArgument , why
5 darmousseh, Ser Aspi, Kenpachi
6 Gofarman, chaoser, ohN
7 astroorion, CubEdIn, Jackal58
8 Beneather, annul, Conversion
9 icemac, Foolishness, LunarDestiny
10 deconduo, kitaman27, JBright

This is just a suggestion, but I think it is a good one, discuss

This would get us raped by the role reverser, and is really a scummy idea
unvote;
##Vote: GMarshal

Show nested quote +
On February 24 2011 22:14 gryffindor wrote:
Cell 1, Cell leader: Coagulation+ Show Spoiler +
1. 5. Jackal58
2. 17. astroorion
3. 1. Coagulation

Cell 2, Cell leader: kitaman27+ Show Spoiler +
4. 19. Gofarman
5. 21. kitaman27
6. 12. icemac

Cell 3, Cell leader: IDC, they're all competant+ Show Spoiler +
7. 6. Kenpachi
8. 2. LSB
9. 26. LunarDestiny

Cell 4, Cell leader: Barundar+ Show Spoiler +
10. 30. LastArgument
11. 3. Barundar
12. 9. gryffindor

Cell 5, Cell leader: deconduo+ Show Spoiler +
13. 16. ohN
14. 28. deconduo
15. 8. annul

Cell 6, Cell leader: Foolishness+ Show Spoiler +
16. 18. Foolishness
17. 27. Ser Aspi
18. 22. kevconsim

Cell 7, Cell leader: Seraph/Mr. Wiggles+ Show Spoiler +
19. 11. Beneather
20. 15. seRapH
21. 24. Mr. Wiggles

Cell 8, Cell leader: OriginalName+ Show Spoiler +
22. 14. JBright
23. 23. ICanFlyLow
24. 13. OriginalName

Cell 9, Cell leader: Chaoser+ Show Spoiler +
25. 7. darmousseh
26. 25. chaoser
27. 20. Conversion MaxwellE

Cell 10, Cell leader: Cubedin+ Show Spoiler +
28. 4. CubEdIn
29. 29. why
30. 10. GMarshal


Now, the "leader" to me is someone who needs to go out of their way to actually collaborate with the other people in their group. If you don't want to use my list of cells, and want to use GMarshal's, whatever. I have a good list I just made right here ready for us to use. Basically, the leaders need to go out of their way to make this work. I am fully confident in these peoples abilities to report what is going on within your cell, and to hold people accountable.

Wait what.

##Vote: gryffindor



Defends icemac and annul. Pushes gryff and doubt on jackal.

Caught in a lie:

On February 26 2011 08:46 ohN wrote:
Woah annul was mafia? o.O
Somehow, I didn't expect that...

I'll put in more analysis once day2 hits, doesn't seem worth it to type up my thoughts at the moment when day2 results could just turn them all sideways.


On February 28 2011 09:35 ohN wrote:
Wow, a lot happened when I was gone.
I still don't understand why we're voting icemac. He doesn't look scummy at all. Like, yeah, he posted about 0 analysis and opinion but that holds true for a lot of other people too. 'Just looks like a scapegoat that mafia are trying to redirect lynches too.

Between LSB and Barundar I doubt either of them are mafia. If one of them is, it's LSB. Can't really say why I think that and there's so many pages that I just read but yeah, that's my take on the situation.

So, who to vote for..
I still think gryff is suspicious, although that might just be because of his weird playstyle. I'd rather have gryff lynched than icemac to be honest. Reading through, Foolishness's post like 2-3 above this has a good point and since I don't think LSB/Barundar/icemac are mafia, there goes my vote.

##Vote: LunarDestiny


That's some analysis....NOT. Doesn't deliver what he promised at all and subsequently slacks on it. His only analysis was that day 1 post so far as i can find.

votes himself day 3 just in time and is gone FIVE DAYS. WTF MODKILL?

Day 4. Votes LSB.

Day 5. Lurker votes gryff.

To sum up. Doesn't stick with what he promised. Dodges half the game. Has never voted a confirmed mafia. Not a confirmed mafia or anything, but definitely a better kill than gryff.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
March 09 2011 00:12 GMT
#2085
On March 09 2011 08:53 gryffindor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 08:30 Qatol wrote:
On March 09 2011 08:27 gryffindor wrote:
On March 09 2011 08:18 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 09 2011 08:17 gryffindor wrote:
On March 09 2011 08:16 Jackal58 wrote:
On March 09 2011 07:08 gryffindor wrote:So, I'm weird, and abrasive... get over it
Are you willing to put your neck on the line for our other mislynch after I die, Jackal?

I never said you were abrasive. Your game play is for lack of a better word - weird. Actually I think I called it insane.
And yes if it is for the better good of town I will gladly die.

I hope the town don't hold you to that, actually, because I'm fairly certain you're just a village idiot

If I am it's just in the game. Must be a terrible burden for you sir.

I wouldn't expect any less out of a Steelers fan

Let's keep this focused on the game and not the people playing the game, please.

read his nested quote implying that i was a village idiot outside the game
the fact that he is right is hurtful
how come in sports (mafia is somewhat competitive like a sport) the guy doing it 2nd is always the one getting caught?
just sayin'

i was joking because i was actually hurt by his comment, considering what is going on in my life right now, which you somewhat know about

I was referring to the whole conversation. Don't worry, I wasn't singling you out.
Uff Da
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:12 GMT
#2086
I just noticed chaoser voted annul
lol
i got blisters on me fingers
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 09 2011 00:16 GMT
#2087
@ Ser Aspi:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=191888&currentpage=101#2013
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:18 GMT
#2088
also, i noticed ohN was on LD whenever LD was at 6 and the alternate wagon. I doubt ohN and LD are mafia together.

On March 08 2011 09:58 ohN wrote:
Seems to be a pretty strong case against gryff.

##Vote: gryffindor

Sheeping LSB right here. If this was LYLO, I wouldn't blame him, but it's not. He is not using his head.

@Deconduo, you listed Gmarshal and chaoser in your "possible factions"

- what for?
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:21 GMT
#2089
also, and sorry to doublepost, but these quotes are fishy

On March 08 2011 10:59 CubEdIn wrote:
P.S.: How the hell is ohN still alive? He has done like.. nothing this whole game.

OK? So why aren't you voting him?

On March 08 2011 11:57 GMarshal wrote:
well gryff I *was* going to defend you, but I realized that that would probably not be doing you a favor.

you WERE going to defend me... before I spazzed and thought I was going to die? Wouldn't that just... you know... help your read of me, if anything? I mean, if I would have been like, aww shucks, you all caught me... sure. I have this loophole. I truly was thinking I was dead, lol

seeing Coagulation's PM to me, i'll reiterate, was amazing. I felt like I had been resurrected
i got blisters on me fingers
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 09 2011 00:22 GMT
#2090
On March 09 2011 09:18 gryffindor wrote:
also, i noticed ohN was on LD whenever LD was at 6 and the alternate wagon. I doubt ohN and LD are mafia together.

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2011 09:58 ohN wrote:
Seems to be a pretty strong case against gryff.

##Vote: gryffindor

Sheeping LSB right here. If this was LYLO, I wouldn't blame him, but it's not. He is not using his head.

@Deconduo, you listed Gmarshal and chaoser in your "possible factions"

- what for?


Annul accused them both at the start
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:23 GMT
#2091
Oh, the post I was insanely suspicious about, and have been talking about for 2 weeks?

like, where I said, oh, guys, I have this guaranteed scumtell... we have 2 scum caught here?

I'm glad SOMEONE noticed that.
i got blisters on me fingers
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 09 2011 00:24 GMT
#2092
On March 09 2011 09:23 gryffindor wrote:
Oh, the post I was insanely suspicious about, and have been talking about for 2 weeks?

like, where I said, oh, guys, I have this guaranteed scumtell... we have 2 scum caught here?

I'm glad SOMEONE noticed that.


Well grouped them together in a couple of posts iirc, but yeah.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
March 09 2011 00:24 GMT
#2093
EBWOP: Well he grouped
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:26 GMT
#2094
oh
i was thinking where he voted chaoser and fosed gmarshal
tbh, considering chaoser flipped scum, it actually helped my opinion of gmarshal being town
i got blisters on me fingers
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 09 2011 00:45 GMT
#2095
Well, gryff is looking like town to me, his reaction to "dying" was pretty townie, at least in my opinion, I think I'm going to vote for ohn, as lylo seems to be approaching and I don't want to bring someone who has almost no posts to their name with me. Also gryff's style may be a little odd compared to what I'm used to, but at its interesting, and at least he is thinking, which is something to be valued in a townie.

##unvote
##Vote: ohN
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gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:46 GMT
#2096
YES OMG IM GOING TO LIVE

wait... now i'm kind of clear... i'm going to die anyways tonight


...dammit
lol
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 00:48 GMT
#2097
again sorry to double post
but, on the plus side, now i have ~26 hours to make a case, and a likely flip of ohN scum

...unless barundar and LD are both scum... and vote me... or are modkilled...

the thing is, i don't see LD and ohN being scum together, considering ohN's vote on him as a counterwagon
i got blisters on me fingers
gryffindor
Profile Joined November 2009
United States524 Posts
March 09 2011 01:00 GMT
#2098
I realize I didn't unvote before voting... silly me
##unvote
##vote: ohn

just in case
i got blisters on me fingers
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 09 2011 01:07 GMT
#2099
just want to say i highly doubt ohN is scum.
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 09 2011 01:30 GMT
#2100
RoL update the list of players alive on the first page!!

Lazy host =P
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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