EPTMini Mafia V: Clues and Puzzles
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Caulfield | ||
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On January 28 2011 21:57 Pandain wrote: /in the panda in this video -_- needs a wiki | ||
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At that moment LSB came back and muttered, “Empty, it’s empty.” Something is empty..but what? | ||
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“Kav, take a look at the paper.” I took the paper from LSB’s hands, and right there on the front page “Naval Intervention Ends Pirates Standoff.” “What do you see?” Inspector LSB questioned. LSB is a genius, his methods of solving crimes are legendary and I document his adventures. He asks me this questions, to try to get me to see what he sees. “But why? Why did the pirates take over the fort?” This part along with the empty part is the message from the day. I'll look at it after I finish this Catan game I'm in. | ||
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On January 29 2011 13:57 Jackal58 wrote: Jonathan Swift? Gulliver's Travels? 18th century British Naval references? Anybody up on their Lilliputians? I'm going to bed. My head hurts. I was thinking exactly that. Jonathan Swift was always looking to make it big in society. He tried unsuccessfully to political position so maybe that's why the pirates took governor hostage. It wasn't money they were looking for, which Holmes alluded to, it was power. Also, the pen and crossing out might be referring to the fact that he revised Gulliver's travels many times. In Gulliver's travels, he, for a while, worked with pirates to travel to different lands. All of this though, is only loosely tied to what's written. I still don't know why the pen "being positioned wrong" and the "it's empty" means. What is empty? The place? Is the fact that it's devoid of life the clue? | ||
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Let's hear some of your own opinions instead of being so unsure about everything you're saying. | ||
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Ok, so here's answers to people's questions. As soon as I saw red ink and people disappearing in the first post I thought about Gulliver's Travels. Johnathan Swift was a writer who, for his whole life, wanted to get into a high position in society, trying many times. That's what I assumed the kidnapping of the governor to be since Holmes was questioning why the pirates did that in the first place. In his books, which I assumed were used since Swift used Gulliver as a pseudonym, Gulliver joins up with a group of pirates/gets marooned by them and they "disappear" into the sky and end up in Laputa which would explain why no one was there anymore and thus the "empty". I didn't think of 18th century references as the reason for thinking about Gulliver's Travels. I might have just read too much into it since it's one of my favorite books. I voted Node cause I thought his posts were really wishy washy in the beginning, he didn't really settle on one thing and was mentioning two people's profiles and asking everyone what they thought which was exactly how I played mafia in the previous Mini game so I wanted to pressure him. When people got really onboard with the Jackel vote, I didn't want to push Node cause that would just give mafia a way of splitting the town vote so I didn't push it farther. As for the clues, Holden Caulfield, while he hated others, was against killing others due to his older brother, Allie's, death. I don't know about the bridge thing though, that's not in The Catcher in the Rye at all, I don't think he's ever in the same place as his parents, only his sister. | ||
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On February 01 2011 12:01 Pandain wrote: Wait so the fifth picture is a red herring? Let's just get out a description of each thing: 1.Drop the bomb, exterminate them all. Angry statement, from apocalypse now(the movie). The movie was about a guy who was worshipped as god or something.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_Now 2.Lego's, 4 guys over two dead robotic things. Aliens? 3.Snow, no evidence of any person, but tracks. A single tree. Where is this picture from? 4.Magic tricks, hocus pocus kit. 5.Music. Also for five, the word Staccato is underlined and it means detached in italian | ||
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3. Apocalypse now -> The Motion Picture Soundtrack (song on OST of Apocalypse Now, the movie) was made by Radiohead, and guess who is the lead singer for Radiohead? Thom Yorke. I can't seem to find this anywhere. I mean, I can find the song and I know when you google it+radiohead you get a video of the sound+AN but I can't seem to find the track listed on any of the OST | ||
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Chaoser is probably the other mafia but I'm not completely confident in that. =[ Why am I other mafia? Cause I voted for node? I already explained my reasoning lol. | ||
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On February 02 2011 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: your posts are the scummiest besides cubedin you don't contribute anything or weigh in on what we're talking about with any weight and just pop up to question your accuser i'm not 100% sold but if tomorrow there is any connection to you, you're getting lynched I didn't think what's his name, Carlos, was mafia. I thought the clues were too easy but everyone was so gung ho about it and I wasn't 100% sure myself so I didn't say anything. After he flipped red the only people i'm pretty sure aren't mafia are wiggles, shann and node now just cause they were so quick to jump on Jackal. You'll probably somehow tie me to the clues like you tried to do today. I mean, bridge? to a magic set? really? That's not even part of Catcher in the Rye... =p I still don't trust you cause this could all be some big mafia ploy which i wouldn't put past you. | ||
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I think Kenpachi hasn't contributed jack shit. + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2011 13:04 Kenpachi wrote: Sounds like a move by Gaara. If you dont know, Gravel is like sand and where is gaara from!? Sand Village On January 29 2011 13:07 Kenpachi wrote: Plus, The way Gaara uses his powers is to crush his victims with sand BUT THEN,that doesnt match with little bloodshed because its a very messy power. a clue we should look at is the bloodstained note. On January 29 2011 13:08 Kenpachi wrote: if there are random splotches of blood though, im sure Gaara is our prime suspect. Rambles on about Gaara + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2011 13:47 Kenpachi wrote: nope. Im a Shinigami that likes to massacre people for the heck of it. Just responds to people's statements/makes non committal statements of his own. On January 30 2011 09:54 Kenpachi wrote: aw.. am not sure which one to vote for Jackal or darmousseh. Theyre the strongest suspects imo and i just remembered i wear an eyepatch (pirate) LOL On January 30 2011 09:55 Kenpachi wrote: ##vote darmousseh I mentioned the gravel first so ill stick to you Votes darmousseh solely on the gravel thing, giving the shitty reason of "I mentioned it first" + Show Spoiler + On January 31 2011 11:25 Kenpachi wrote: DrH On January 31 2011 11:27 Kenpachi wrote: I would believe DrH is townie this game and he would probably not have martyred Jackal if he was Mafia so yea Medic should protect DrH Tells medic to save you [+ Show Spoiler + QUOTE]On February 01 2011 11:26 Kenpachi wrote: Well did anyone notice "Beethoven" in the openning picture? maybe thats the music sheet o_O On February 01 2011 11:32 Kenpachi wrote: It looks like a movement in Beethoven's conerto No 5. The Main theme in Movement 1 is similar to the first line of the sheet Talks about the music sheet even though LSB said it didn't matter + Show Spoiler + On February 01 2011 11:46 Kenpachi wrote: then in this case, DrH is the only one related to music. I think this is way too obvious and the killer must have listened to the etude or something On February 01 2011 12:03 Kenpachi wrote: That alien that died i think is the Yossarian.. Random stuff/Defends you If TL mods were looking at his posting history he'd be banned with the number of one liners he has. I'm more scummy than that? Get out of here | ||
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How's that for a stance? | ||
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The idea that Jackal's death was bussed is still very much in my head. The way I see it happening is like this. Wiggles and Node provide really solid analysis of the clues and the mafia, seeing that he'd probably get lynched, jumped first to bus him before any townie could vote for him. When he flipped Red, the first person (Dr. H) could always fall back on "why would I bus my own teammate day 1 when no one else had voted for him yet" even though in reality, he was already on the chopping block, mafia just wanted to seem pro town. With Kenpachi's little remarks about how Dr. H is the most pro-town, people would start to think, yeah, maybe he IS pro town and not mafia at all. If you notice, wiggles, node, and shann already put a lot of pressure on Jackal already in the beginning. Dr. H was too busy talking about pandas and whether they eat people or not and all of a sudden busts out with this: On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ##Vote Jackal58 The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative. Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does. when his previous posts had all been talking about pandas with Pandain and darmousseh | ||
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I won't actually do modkills this game, since I realize that if Mafia is inactive, the clues can just pown them But I am looking for replacements I'mma quote this from LSB cause i'm reading through the thread. Is he implying mafia were inactive? | ||
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On February 02 2011 07:35 darmousseh wrote: Dang I think we are looking at these clues all wrong. Something else has got to give. Something tells me that there is a high likelihood that we are going to accidentally lynch green simply because the clues are getting us nowhere. That's why I'm saying lynch Kenpachi...look at his posts... | ||
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Same logic as me then? That's pretty much what I did, or my thought process that caused me to not post more on Day 1. I'd rather lynch Kenpachi over you, that's what I'm saying. If i had to pick btw you and Cube, I really don't know anymore at this point especially after reading what LSB said about inactives. | ||
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kenpachi is always the easiest lynch. I won't beat around the bush, in my honest opinion Kenpachi is the worst player of mafia that plays on a regular basis by far. He has an incredibly scummy and stupid way of playing town. I'll look back and see if there is actually good reason to suspect him. If it's just his usual wishy washy, non contributive, asking stupid questions self then I say it's a cold lynch until there is a hard clue connection. BTW, that's a horrible excuse/defense. "He's a bad player"? Really? That's your go to plan to defend him? You'll go back and see if there's a good reason to suspect him? I already compiled all his posts into one post. Why don't you go look at that now? Should take you 15 minutes right? | ||
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As for the clues, I think when it comes down to it, it's between Cubed and Dr.H. Between the two of them, I'd rather lynch Dr.H cause if he's red then we have a connection between him and Kenpachi; plus i get to feel smart about figuring out their plan of bussing Jackal on day 1. | ||
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On February 03 2011 03:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: there is no connection between me and kenpachi i just dont want to lynch him unless a clue points at him why cant you understand what im saying when i mean analysis is inconclusive in light of how terrible he is. his play in this game is directly in line with town play. its like lynching bill murray because he spammed or lynching NB for asking a dumb question. also "lynching for information" is a scum play anyway. You look worse and worse. Condescending play is condescending. Something mafia would pull when they're in a bind. There's no need for it if you're town. I've done it before as mafia, and I've seen others do it as well. When Cubein flips green, you do realize you're on the chopping block right? If he flips red, well mafia should just give up at that point since it's an almost full town. | ||
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On February 03 2011 04:38 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ##Unvote CubEdIn ##Vote Chaoser I feel that this is gonna be a youngminii situation with me and CubEdIn. Chaoser is pretty transparent and the mafia would be too desperate to bus. Chaoser played kinda scummily in Salem Mafia though (where he was green) but not this bad. Lol so instead of sticking to the clues, you jump off the ship and vote for me. Typical mafia move. Why not see where the ship is going? You were so 100% sure Cubed was mafia before too. Panic much? | ||
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##Unvote Kenpachi ##Vote Cubedin so my vote counts to it. If he flips green, we got good info, if he flips red, we got good info. Let's go for it. | ||
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On February 02 2011 07:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Why would I vote for you when I'm more sure about CubEdIn? Cool defense. I'll vote for you tomorrow. So you basically go back on your whole campaign of Cubedin being mafia and want to lynch me even though the clues connect to either you or him? Nice try lol. | ||
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9 to 2 If Cubed flips green we'll be at 7 to 2 if we lynch me next it'll be 5 to 2 (assuming I'm green) I hope at THIS point, you guys lynch Kenpachi/Dr. H if both cubedin and I flip green. | ||
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7 to 2 if Cube flips green we'll be 5 to 2 if I get lynched we'll be at 3 to 2 (assuming I'm green) I hope at THIS point, you guys lynch Kenpachi/Dr. H if both cubedin and I flip green. | ||
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If you're green, we get more clues on the remaining two mafia, we got a whole day of posting based around you. People's posts against you as well as for you can be analyzed. Most importantly, Dr. H and Kenpachi have been soft tied together and so they're going to be under the microscope. Me too if you guys want but I don't think I've played all the scummy at all. I'll analyze Dr. H tomorrow when I get home if you guys want but I see a lot of contradictions in his actions/posts already. | ||
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Chaoser's play does seem scummy now. He has voted for Cubed while at first he went for Kenpachi. He might be just joining the bandwagon to avoid suspicion combined with the fact that he said if cube flips green then flip me which makes it WIFOM if cube flips red it would make Chaoser seem green which is still not conclusive like you pointed out which is where the danger lies atm. If Cubedin is red then mafia will have already lost. If i was mafia I'd just give up. Two mafia down on the first two days with more clues along the way? GG. If Cubedin is green, which I think he is, then we get info. How you use that info is up to you. I'm not bandwagoning anything, He was pretty much going to be lynched anyway. I just agreed with your logic that he should be lynched today and that should be the focus of the day. I was going to go on more about Kenpachi but your post on how we'll find out more made me switch on to Kenpachi. i'm merely making my vote the same as what I think/say. If I was mafia, why would I need to switch from anything besides red to green? You don't need to think i'm green at all. you just need to see that Dr. H pushed hard for the cubedin lynch and then switched last minute to me for no reason, he doesn't have a great puch for me, he doesn't try to convince others to vote for me even though i'm "more scummy now than Cubedin". How does that make sense? | ||
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On February 03 2011 11:44 shannn wrote: Everyone voted. Everyone except kenpachi(chaoser)/cubed(drh)/drh(chaoser) voted for cubed. I voted for Cubedin, don't know what you're talking about. I voted for Kenpachi before and I still think he's mafia but getting cubedin lynched gives town info to help them make the decision/see that kenpachi/drh is mafia so I voted for him. | ||
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On February 02 2011 08:19 Pandain wrote: ???? U posted once after the game started talking about how clues could relate to Raiden. + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2011 21:59 CubEdIn wrote: Hi everyone. First of all, the Raiden reference. I don't see how it connects to the body disappearances. If you mean the ability to teleport, Raiden has the ability to teleport himself, not other things (at least in the games and movies, but I guess it can be interpreted). Second of all, I got Kenpachi covered, I watched bleach and I liked the character. A few main traits are: - loves battle, lives for it, but is fair, would not kill people with arrows or a wall - uses his sword and that's about it - is really fast and really really powerful, especially when he removes his eye-patch - has a skewed view on honor, I can't really explain this, but basically he'll follow "honor" rules, but doesn't respect many things in general. Also, if he would be killing something, there would be A LOT of blood around. I did a quick look at the profiles and Gaara seems to be the strongest clue (with the crushing and sand and all), but I didn't have time to carefully analyze all of them yet. Will be back in the evening for more hunting. Sort of lethargic here, I'll try to post an analysis on Cubed in shortly. Originally I thought he was town, but looking over his posts his play reminds me of mine in Insane mafia, where even if my logic was pretty bad I would stick to it. What happened to this Pandain? You didn't even vote. Saying it's lethargic here and not contributing yourself. Where's your usual FoSing self?? | ||
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On February 03 2011 11:48 shannn wrote: You fail to read chaoser. Your name mentioned there in my post means those guys voted on you. ah, my bad, read it wrong. And pandain didn't vote at all. | ||
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On February 04 2011 20:36 Pandain wrote: Why not just do something like this? Dmosh-ABC Chaoser: D Node: E. No matter what we get mafia result, unless I'm missing something. Because if one of us is mafia, the thing is corrupt. And we have no idea who's the mafia. His plan is pretty much perfect. | ||
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On February 04 2011 21:21 chaoser wrote: Because if one of us is mafia, the thing is corrupt. And we have no idea who's the mafia. His plan is pretty much perfect. Also, everyone has to send a message I think, you can't just only use 3 people. Let's say I'm mafia, The thing would be corrupt and since I'm suspected, everyone would lynch me. congrats. Let's say Node is mafia, the thing would be corrupt and since I'm suspected, everyone would lynch me and then be confused. Same with Dmosh. As long as mafia hold a piece of the msg that is equal to or greater than the amount of townies holding that same piece, then the msg gets corrupted. Not that any of this matters since everyone has to hold a piece anyway and in yours only three people do. | ||
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On February 05 2011 04:28 DoctorHelvetica wrote: We should absolutely stick with darmousseh's original plan. Any attempts to modify this or mislead town in a different direction will be setting off huge alarms in my brain. Concur | ||
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On February 05 2011 12:20 chaoser wrote: Don't do anything regarding me, I'm just going to answer questions. Town should 100% lynch me for info. I wrote it up as you were writing about counterclaiming, post just landed later | ||
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On February 06 2011 07:29 GMarshal wrote: Or you are mafia and this is your game winning plan, lynch chaoser and node and assure your victory. Of course I'm pretty sure that neither you nor Node are mafia, which means chaoser is, but if he flips green... I wanna take a bet on this lolol | ||
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