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On February 11 2011 13:54 Coagulation wrote:
why would you lynch someone who is a KNOWN active poster/contributor day 1?
and leave lurkers alone.
Are you kidding me?
Everyone has been new at some point, cut them some slack. Chill out!
Spoiler-tagging for long quote. :')
+ Show Spoiler +On February 11 2011 15:04 why wrote:I've read a couple of pever's game and it looks like there are tons of different alignments in play. For example, here is the role list for the Revenge of Irishmore which resulted in a cult victory (I think, there were multiple endings): + Show Spoiler +Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow
Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes
Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes
Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman
Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist
French Kidnapper:
Sigurd
Arsonist:
Reenk Roink
Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro
Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief
Priest:
Centurion1
Queen:
Chaotix
Special Townie:
Diamondeye
Detective:
Scienter Pretty sure that is 2 cults and a mafia team, and that was when there were 5 mafia members... I think we have to be ready for anything. Anyway, back to the actual game. I don't know how you usually play, coag, but you are reacting really really defensively to votes that were little more than jokes that popped up because people were bored. Not sure if you usually react this way or there's some history involved, but its definitely setting off alarm bells. And GGQ, I too would like at least some explanation of your vote on coag. Everyone else has at least a sentence explaining their vote.
Come on now, wouldn't you get aggravated if you were accused of something you were not?
He's probably just a bit on edge at the moment, let him cool off and he'll show a valuable asset in the future. :')
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On February 11 2011 15:27 Ace wrote:well people get accused all of the time. Why panic?  Besides I don't see what the voting rules are in the OP. Is it Majority lynch or most votes to lynch?
Majority and most votes are the same thing, are they not?
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On February 11 2011 15:29 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 15:23 Believer wrote:On February 11 2011 13:54 Coagulation wrote:
why would you lynch someone who is a KNOWN active poster/contributor day 1?
and leave lurkers alone.
Are you kidding me? Everyone has been new at some point, cut them some slack. Chill out! Spoiler-tagging for long quote. :') + Show Spoiler +On February 11 2011 15:04 why wrote:I've read a couple of pever's game and it looks like there are tons of different alignments in play. For example, here is the role list for the Revenge of Irishmore which resulted in a cult victory (I think, there were multiple endings): + Show Spoiler +Mafia members:
A Very Super Market
Askthepizzaguy
Csargo
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TinCow
Australian Cult Members:
Methos
YLC
atheotes
Kiwi Cult Member:
atheotes
Scottish killers:
Thermal Mercury
Warman
Doctors:
Dr. Yaseikhaan
Lord Winter the intern
Renata the Emergency Room specialist.
Joooray the Pyschiatrist
French Kidnapper:
Sigurd
Arsonist:
Reenk Roink
Original carer of Wee Sean:
Sasaki Kojiro
Town Drunk:
GeneralHankerchief
Priest:
Centurion1
Queen:
Chaotix
Special Townie:
Diamondeye
Detective:
Scienter Pretty sure that is 2 cults and a mafia team, and that was when there were 5 mafia members... I think we have to be ready for anything. Anyway, back to the actual game. I don't know how you usually play, coag, but you are reacting really really defensively to votes that were little more than jokes that popped up because people were bored. Not sure if you usually react this way or there's some history involved, but its definitely setting off alarm bells. And GGQ, I too would like at least some explanation of your vote on coag. Everyone else has at least a sentence explaining their vote. Come on now, wouldn't you get aggravated if you were accused of something you were not? He's probably just a bit on edge at the moment, let him cool off and he'll show a valuable asset in the future. :') Thanks for the level headed outlook. Also i should warn you editing post's will get you modkilled.
Oh I'm sorry. I'm quite new to this you see.
The edit I made was adding my response to you, so I didn't spam the thread. I can see how editing is very bad though. Just wasn't thinking!
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I think alot of people are jumping to conclusions here, not naming anyone of course.
There is yet much time left on this day, it might be worth biding one's time.
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Okay.
I'd like to clear something that people seem to get stuck on.
This is my first ever Mafia game and I really try my best to contribute in a nice fashion. I did edit my first post, 1 minute and 8 seconds after I had posted it. The edit was to add a response to Coagulation aswell as the other quote.
I didn't want to spam as I remember TL to be a quality before quantity forum. This was of course faulty and I realized that as soon as it was pointed out 15:29 (my post was 15:24:08), aka 5 minutes later.
Before you label me as someone who edits, which I have seen, just read the thread.
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These times are so wierd...
The day will end at 11:00 AM for me.
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Well there was pretty good activity about 12-13 hours ago, which was when I was awake.
Now it's 02:49 AM for me, I don't know if other people have worse times right now.
But there was some inactives I think? Someone wrote a list detailing some inactives.
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Spoiler tag for long post.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 12 2011 12:11 Coagulation wrote:Analysis of ACE+ Show Spoiler +Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 12:15 Ace wrote:
oh and just to make things easier
Vote: Coagulation. Lets not take any chances with silly players :D ok so game hasnt even started yet. no day post or anything i havnt even posted a seriouse post regarding the game and boom hes out the gates trying to get someone lynched On February 11 2011 13:04 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:01 LunarDestiny wrote:
Coag is actually very good at scum hunting. He played ton of games.
He just don't like to write long post to convince others. that means he's not good at scum hunting people try to reason with him about his pretty lame vote attempt how its a bad start etc. pretty much ignores anyones opinion on it as shown here. On February 11 2011 13:24 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:21 Coagulation wrote:
i dont know where you get this i dont wanna convince people shit. cool so you aren't actually trying to help us find Scum then are you? twists my words to make them sound negative. maybe it was a bad phrasing on my part but im pretty sure anyone who reads that with a town outlook would read "i dont know where you get this "i dont wanna convince people" shit. Hounding me about lack of scumhunting. lets see how much scumhunting he has contributed as the game goes on shall we. On February 11 2011 13:32 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:29 GMarshal wrote:On February 11 2011 13:26 Coagulation wrote:
At this point in the game has ANYONE made an attempt to find scum??
+ Show Spoiler +We are a whole 15 minutes into the game, by now you should have a very solid idea of who the scum team is and have come up a list that we can use to hunt them, the fact that you have failed to produce such a list makes you most suspicious in my eyes. word Ok no scumhunting here lets move on On February 11 2011 14:10 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 13:49 aidnai wrote:
Rofl...I see Kenpachi and Pandain are not playing, so I hate to say it Coag but you're our only viable day 1 lynch.
I see that there are only 3 scum, and there's no abstaining. We're almost certainly gonna be lynching a lot of townies this game. KP will be our best indicator of lynch success it looks like, though if we kill the GF we may not realize immediately.
I'm most interested in getting to know the new guys pevergreen brought over, so let's get down to business:
Vote: ELITECubWarman8
for being new and having such a long fricking name. 3 Scum vs 27 Townies is pretty much auto loss for Scum. So expect multiple Scum factions, Cults(ughh) or some really strong Scum powers. pretty obvious statement here. anyone who has played more than 2 games of mafia will realize this right away. doesnt help us find scum at all. On February 11 2011 15:27 Ace wrote:well people get accused all of the time. Why panic? Besides I don't see what the voting rules are in the OP. Is it Majority lynch or most votes to lynch? zero scumhunting. and heres a little bit of what is commonly known as a scum tactic. ask general and irrelevent questions regarding the game in a attempt to look like your providing content to the town. On February 11 2011 17:37 Ace wrote:
actually gryffindor he answered your question - even though if it was terrible since he never defended Coagulation. What he did wasn't even buddying. Why so jumpy sir? And it only took you 2 minutes between reading Misder's post and voting to come firm to this conclusion?
Are you voting just to vote or do you honestly think Node is scummy? pretty much the only real post he has made so far with any substance. however notice it is slightly tinted in a negative contrast. far from solid analysis or scumhunting that i would expect from a vet player like him. On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:Actually a hard to read player is still bad If you don't appear Pro-Town to me why would I want to keep you alive? more contentless smalltalk. Zero scumhunting here folks. On February 11 2011 17:59 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2011 17:56 Node wrote:On February 11 2011 17:47 Ace wrote:Actually a hard to read player is still bad Speak for yourself.  if you dont agree then tell me why :D Another Zero content fluff post with general conversation to make it look like hes contributing. no suprise there is Zero scumhunting here On February 12 2011 06:54 Ace wrote:
The people voting for Zerroth should be DT checked on Night 1 for sure.
Anyway since our characters are based on what went on in the Totalwar forums, players from the totalwar website can you post and give us the characteristics or play style of some of the players there? ALARM BELLS GOING OFF YEAH SURE WE WILL CHECK WHOEVER YOU SAY. CAUSE CLEARLY JUDGING FROM YOUR POST HISTORY YOU HAVE AN INVESTED INTEREST IN FINDING SCUM. WE BETTER LISTEN. also asking other people to scumhunt. Fantastic work ace. zero scumhunting here. MORE ALARM BELLS. was so fucking dedicated to vote me that he couldnt even wait for the fucking day post to get my name on the board. now he unvotes me and doesnt say a word about it. You know what kind of players dont feel compelled to explain their reasoning behind their decision making. If you guessed scum you are correct.
I call massive bullshit.
Vote: Coagulation
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Unvote: Coagulation
Vote: Zerroth
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I do think time is up for the first day, right?
On February 12 2011 15:43 gryffindor wrote:
I really disliked Believer's vote a page ago, with absolutely no content with it whatsoever. I also didn't like seeing someone having a post edited earlier, and I was just informed that it was him in PM. I don't want to just go with the mold. I don't want to bandwagon. I want to lynch scum.
Vote: Believer
Try to keep a level head mate, voting for me won't do you any good.
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Now the real game can begin.
Sad to see that only 20 votes were in, out of 30 players. Although I guess we saw that coming, didn't we?
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On February 13 2011 07:59 SiNiquity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 07:41 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity did you even post a single time during the first day?
No. 100% inactive. thats unacceptable. Get off your High horse and get your shit together.
i pushed zerroth and had him lynched.
you will be next if you dont start posting.
Yes mum. Sorry mum. Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 10:06 Coagulation wrote:
No problem man. everyone makes mistakes.
Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 10:07 Coagulation wrote:
this thread makes my nose tickle. Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 10:08 Coagulation wrote:
believer i close you sleepy so sleepy -_-
Massive contributing so far mate, how about actually discussing with us for a while? Might be nice to really play the game, not just watch.
Did I somehow vote uncorrectly? I can't see my vote being registered. My post is in the middle of page 17, could someone have a look?
I agree with Coag that it seems fishy that GCQ would feel guilty/inexperienced enough to post that, it remains to be seen what can be done about that though.
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I guess that's it for the night phase then?
Sorry for barely posting anything, I really had no clue on what to contribute. I suppose the thing one can do now is hope they didn't die?
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On February 14 2011 05:43 aidnai wrote:Wassup ACE?!?! I'm going to full on role claim here, minus the red text of course. Show nested quote +
You are Kagemusha
You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...
You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
- Since my power was activated, I was being targeted as a kill, not a roleblock or anything else - Since Ace was targeting me for the kill and he was affected by the curse which affects mafia, Ace was in fact mafia My job here is done, if they kill me for realz they still can't shut me up lol I highly recommend that any advice, opinions etc given by Ace from here on out be ignored. Last thing to say, we'll hopefully know after tonight's KP if Ace was a GF or a grunt. I think probably a grunt was sent to kill, but Ace as GF is smart from mafia perspective so I dunno...
This does make some strange sense to me.
It could very much be a forgery but for some reason I do believe this to be the truth. Now only remains to figure out the reasoning for the second killing.
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On February 14 2011 08:50 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:
The intruder quickly pounced on the surprised Bumatlarge, who was unable to react quickly enough to stop the intruder from rudely shoving a banana down his throat. The intruder held it there for a few minutes, until Bumatlarge's struggles finally ceased. .org members....does this jump out at anyone? Death by banana? Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 04:36 GMarshal wrote:
I will to continue those who I perceive as inactives
SiNiquity
post, post, post! I can't bear the inactivity! SiNquity has been active in past games. I would hardly call him inactive. Show nested quote +On February 14 2011 08:39 Ace wrote:On February 14 2011 08:32 deconduo wrote:On February 14 2011 08:23 Ace wrote:
I wasn't Scum. Don't you think it would be really amazing for me to die Night 1 as Scum by either Vigi/SK hit or aidnai's supposed power?
If I was Scum why of all people would I want to kill him? Why target aidnai? But all of this begs the question for kitaman27 - now that you know aidnai's alias is Kagemusha did that name appear in your PM? I can confirm that I suggested to Ace the previous night that aidnai was scum. I must have been in a bad mood.
On February 14 2011 10:30 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 08:43 chaoser wrote:
Also, about my vote last time, the reason is a secret =p Care to elaborate? I didn't realize this game used only 24 hour day cycles. We really need to start discussing a lynch candidate. At this point, someone with 3 votes might end up getting lynched. Show nested quote +
5 Zerroth (bumatlarge, chaoser, darmousseh, deconduo, ilovejonn)
3 Insanious (Insanious, JBright, Node)
2 aidnai (kitaman, Thefluffyone, Misder)
1 Beefy (Ace)
1 Warman (aidnai)
1 Ace (Beefy)
1 Brownbear (brownbear)
1 GCQ (GCQ)
1 Siniquity (GMarshal)
1 Believer (gryffindor)
1 LunarDestiny (LunarDestiny)
1 Kitaman (Mr. Wiggles)
1 misder (why)
The fact that everyone who voted zerroth didn't really think he was scum makes me feel uneasy. Then again, with so much inactivity and the lack of a strong alternate the mafia could choose to place their vote practically anywhere. As many have guessed by now, my analysis of aidnai was fake. I cannot reveal the reason for doing so, however here is one pm I received. Show nested quote +Misder
I'll agree that Ace does get extra attention and that I probably am a bit biased because of that, as you stated. However, this is interesting actually, the scenario that you and Coag created. I'm actually waiting for a last minute vote, maybe even more. This could be a deciding vote for mafia. Judging by the fact that no one has actually bandwagoned hard so far could signal that neither are mafia. But we will see. I read your analysis btw. Its good from my perspective, I don't know what Ace is talking about. Also, the fact that neither of the two are actually addressing the accusations is very very interesting. Maybe both mafia?
I guess I'll vote for aidnai, but I think I'll put my vote on Ace next day. Show nested quote +Misder
Though I do agree that you might need to strengthen your analysis a bit more. Maybe stress the part where its like "I'm think about doing something, but I'm not really going to do it".
Show nested quote +On February 12 2011 13:37 Misder wrote:
And as such,
Unvote Ace
Vote Aidnai
Yay for bandwagoning?
Apparently Misder bought into my fake analysis. After pushing for an Ace lynch, he was swayed enough to switch his vote to aidnai. Its almost as if he sounds guilty when posting "yay for bandwagoning". Finally, he sends a second pm telling me that I need to strengthen my analysis. It was strong enough to change his mind, but its almost as if he wants me to push harder to convince others. Its possible that he honestly believed aidnai and Ace to be scum, but we really need to start discussing viable lynch candidates.
When you are so adamant about nailing a specific person I myself grow suspicious. Of course it is possible that you really can't reveal it because it is your red but that's just one possibility.
This has become an increasingly intruiging game..
On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:
Lost in his thought, Kagemusha didn't stop in time, and bumped into another man.
"I'm sorry, I didn't see you there." said Kage.
"Its quite alright, my friend. I say, I picked up this sack earlier today at the markets, and its simply beautiful. Here, take a look."
As Kage got up on his tiptoes to see inside, TinCow pushed him, and Kage fell in.
Something that might be worth to investigate is this "TinCow"'s affiliations on the TotalWar homepage. Since he makes it quite obvious that it is Ace who plays TinCow there might be some clues on their forums. I'll snoop around and see if I can find something.
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Also, sorry for the "wierd" activity times, I'm from Sweden. 
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Spoiler for long post, quoted the death of kita.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 14 2011 16:47 pevergreen wrote:The town was in a foul mood. Cries about the "Curse of Kagemusha" were heard, and to some they fell on deaf ears, others listened and thought, but most simply heard and ignored. kitaman was browsing the web, taking a break from participating in the conversation. He just got an email from his best friend in the whole world. It was a link to a cool new website. When the page finally loaded, kitaman dropped his laptop. He had started convulsing. His hands and legs contorted and began to flail around. He dropped from his seat and foam came out of his mouth. Unfortunately for him, no one managed to help him in time. As they carried the body of kitaman out, a face in the crowd saw it. " pevergreen died?" Multiple people nodded in confirmation. The man's eyes narrowed. "This is all I have to say:" he said, Alive: 25/30 deconduo SiNiquity Misder GGQ JBright gryffindor Project Psycho Johnhughthom ELITECubWarman8 Believer BrownBear Coagulation Insanious thefluffyone93 Beefy187 SouthRawrea Mr. Wiggles chaoser GMarshal darmousseh ilovejonn why aidnai me_viet Node Lynched: 1/30 zerroth (Strike for the South) Killed: 3/30 bumatlarge (TheSpartan) Ace (TinCow) kitaman27 (pevergreen) Suicided out of despair: 1/30 LunarDestiny (Louis VI the Fat) Day 2 continues. Day will end at Monday, Feb 14 11:30am GMT (GMT+00:00)Less than 4 hours remain in this day phase.
Okay so kita's affiliations betrayed him because of some failure? That's my guess.
This is quite the irregularity, day kills seem somewhat early to me. Although it could be justified by some reason I guess. Anyone care to chip in here?
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Looking over gryffindor's posts I find nothing but OMGUS votes or other nonsense. This leads me to a scummy feeling about him.
Vote placeholder, will probably change later:
Vote: Gryffindor
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Isn't it post and vote?
On a side-note pever, incredible game you played as Pikachu. I am baffled.
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I did read it, all of it. :p
Insane how fast TinCow caught on ATPG as his exact role, very impressive. Really too bad that you lost Renata under such circumstances.
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On February 14 2011 21:29 gryffindor wrote:
I was almost lynched? I'll admit, i'm way behind, but I have actually been a good poster in my opinion. I am astonished. It must have been a late-in-the-day mafia wagon. I wouldn't be surprised if I was killed tonight.
doc on me.
Why would mafia bother killing you?
You have been posting shady conclusions and voting strange, if nothing else mafia would rather keep you alive as a scapegoat later on. If you are not mafia you sure are making town's work hard.
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In the last 7 pages you have only made the contributing factors: "Wow, wtf happened?" and "Lol you almost lynched me?".
Combine that with general low content of posts and this extremely passive-aggresive nature I say we have ourselves a trouble maker.
FoS on gryffindor.
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Scary lack of activity at the moment. I would have thought atleast Coagulation would have something to say about this.
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GMarshal, simple stating the obvious is clearly scummy from now on. We are only 19 players left and I don't believe any mafia are dead yet so we have to really start working.
If you are town, please try to contribute. I could be clearly wrong about gryffindor and beefy could be wrong about him and ilovejonn.
Help us out, we "all" want town to win.
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Going to bed now, will respond to the PM's in the morning.
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This is indeed an interesting development. Some of the characters I am not familiar with from my research of the Org, such as Gregoshi and Andres. Might just be my poor researching skills though.
Regarding the criticism I have recieved now..
I am not Mafia, it would be unwise to lynch me because there will be even fewer votes for the real Mafia. As we see here we have a few possible scenarios.
1. The Godfather is dead and the grunts have continued killing. We also have 1 vigilante killing.
2. The two grunts are dead and the Godfather is killing twice per night. We also have 1 vigilante killing.
3. No Mafia are dead, the grunts are killing two people each night. We also have 1 vigilante killing.
4. One grunt is dead and the mafia is only killing 1 person per night. We also have 2 vigilante killing.
5. One grunt and the Godfather is dead, killing once per night. We also have 2 vigilante killing.
Those are the options I can come up with.
As for my defense. If the town wishes I will role-claim later this day period to prove my innocence. I thank gryffindor for sparking the discussion, not only of me but of all his suspects, so we can finally gain some headway. I believe we are making some progress finally.
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+ Show Spoiler +On February 15 2011 21:21 LunarDestiny wrote:Believer:He claims that this is his first mafia game. If that is the case, then his playstyle is understandable because it is his first game. What surprised me is that he used mafia terms such as FoS and OMGUS. I don't think a new player are comfortable enough to use those two terms. His voting on gryffindor don't say much about his alignment. He basically just say he find gryffindor's posts suspicious. Although he didn't explain how are they suspicious, I don't think it is enough evidence to pin him as mafia. But he needs to explain his reasoning. SO BELIEVER, EXPLAIN WHAT MADE YOU VOTE FOR GRYFFINDOR.
Aidnai:First of all, he name claimed and no one counter claimed. Pretty sure he is Kagemusha, but. his ability claim and mod pm can be faked (so keep that in mind when reading this). Show nested quote +
You are Kagemusha
You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...
You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
-pevergreen's post was about Ace kidnapping Aidnai. Ace's choice of tool is a sack. Look at this from pevergreen's post:
After a few hours, Kagemusha freed himself from the sack.Ace's role screams JAILER. -Aidnai's claimed power couldn't be activated because he was not killed. So what killed Ace. Well, the only logical answer is that he is targeted by a KP. I also said the .org GF system give the GF power to recruit scums. Assuming that .org GF system is being used, I am very certain Ace would make a fine recruit. And his death is because a 3rd party killed him. If .org GF system is NOT used, both mafia and 3rd party have great incentive to kill him.
Ace, I know releasing role info after death is illegal. But can you give me your opinion on Aidnai prior to your death?SiNiquity:Much like the last game (XXXVI), he lives on without getting much attention. He got two interesting posts: Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 06:41 SiNiquity wrote:
Ironically, my character profile states I don't have much time for mafia anymore LOL so true. But anyway, I just caught up with the thread and there's a shit ton of Kita bashing for no apparent reason. You guys are dumb if you think he's mafia. Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 06:46 SiNiquity wrote:On February 11 2011 19:12 Coagulation wrote:
SiNiquity
an average quality player. leaves a little bit to be desired as far as amount of posting he does.
not an inactive player by any stretch but hes not gonna be posting alot of shit to analyze.
No shit, because when I post I'm right. So no, I don't make a ton of haphazard posts saying "Well what about this itty bitty thing over here that someone said that makes me tingle in funny places? And it's not my SPIDEY SENSEEEE" because let's face it, I don't have a need to crap all over the thread like the rest of you. First, he says that Kitaman's accuses are unjustified which I agree. Looking back, it started because someone (aidnai) pointed finger at Kitaman and Kitaman points finger back. These back and forth happened all the time from two townies. After so many unknown variables such as low mafia count and groups, I doubt people will expose themselves to get someone lynch for no reason. I don't like the second post which says he don't like spamming the thread when most of his posts are spams as well. (I admit I spam too...)
I can explain my actions, don't you worry. :')
As for the terminology used by me, you can see from the start that I use none of the wording normally applied to mafia games. However, I have familiarized myself with it as of this forum thread: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?131366-Mafia-Glossary
It really is quite the gold mine if one is looking for help starting up.
As for my vote on gryffindor, I simply wanted to see what he would do, I had my doubts (and still do) about him. The "placeholder" voting was so it wouldn't look suspicious should I change it due to him leading the polls, I never wanted him lynched there.
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Just some things I find... Entertaining, looking back.
+ Show Spoiler +The exact same .gif was linked by fluffy in one of pevergreen/fluffy's games on the Org. He is also a "famous" troll over there, often linking images and videos. SiNiquity could very well be fluffy. On February 14 2011 05:43 aidnai wrote:Wassup ACE?!?! I'm going to full on role claim here, minus the red text of course. Show nested quote +
You are Kagemusha
You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...
You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
- Since my power was activated, I was being targeted as a kill, not a roleblock or anything else - Since Ace was targeting me for the kill and he was affected by the curse which affects mafia, Ace was in fact mafia My job here is done, if they kill me for realz they still can't shut me up lol I highly recommend that any advice, opinions etc given by Ace from here on out be ignored. Last thing to say, we'll hopefully know after tonight's KP if Ace was a GF or a grunt. I think probably a grunt was sent to kill, but Ace as GF is smart from mafia perspective so I dunno...
I might be knit-picky here but I see one irregularity, two to be very on the spot.
There is no dot after the name in the role PM, mine has a dot and I would assume they all are quite the same on that spot.
There are way too many short sentences, if one were to forge a role PM one would want to keep it very short and precise. Mine has long sentences, often elaborating "unneccessary" details.
I might not have the greatest proof, but I see this as suspicious.
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How is it that whenever I speak up I am met with a wall of silence, please share your opinions of my discoveries. I am new to this game and might be interpreting (spelling?) things wrong, I am still a vote for the benefit of us all. :')
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Don't forget rule #1.
Or perhaps you haven't? ; )
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On February 16 2011 00:55 GGQ wrote:Man, doesn't seem like town is doing good at all
So help us out!
I've posted several claims, how about you refute/support one of them?
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Watching the development I think it's safe to say that GGQ is a clear prime suspect.
Starting a band wagon...
Vote: GGQ
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On February 16 2011 03:28 GGQ wrote:
vote: deconduo
Insanely weak OMGUS vote.
I think we can safely say now that GGQ is mafia without a doubt.
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Just woke up now.
Not too much to add during this day, I think we are all anxious to get the name of GGQ so we can move on.
My guess is RR.
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This is indeed an interesting development..
I was wrong to say that GGQ was RR, obviously, but RR was involved with this somehow.
I suggest that RR is a town vig and that Wiggles and ACIN were not connected as bumatlarge (I think?) and LunarDestiny.
It could be that RR is not town but a true neutral vig and only after a set number of people but I think this is less likely.
Opinions guys?
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Have you notified pever about this?
Or is it someone who already have been WoG'ed?
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It's okay, too bad the person in question made a mistake. We really need all the helpful townie chars right now!
Let's just hope there's another medic, otherwise we are royally fudged.
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Come on pever, play nice!
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For clarification to anyone who still doesn't understand.
YOU MAY:
Reveal your character name in PM.
Reveal your character name, alignment and description in the thread.
Forge your Role PM and post it in the thread.
Forge your name in PM.
YOU MAY NOT:
Reveal ANYTHING about your character except it's name in PM.
Reveal your red text in either the thread or PM.
In ANY WAY hint to what status your character has in PM.
And pever, by "play nice" I meant that I want that update, not that ilovejonn should not be WoG'ed.
Pretty please? <3
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Please do not get yourself mod-killed now, we really need all townie chars alive and scumhunting for us to break through.
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And please edit my post if something is incorrect pever, I don't want to be misleading someone. It should be a fair game with no more rule-breaking.
Third post in a row damnit.. I really need to think ahead, sorry for spamming up the thread with this.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.
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You are Renata
You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
"
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On February 17 2011 04:03 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 03:58 Believer wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.
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You are Renata
You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
" Town usually has a "you are town" a line before the victory condition...
Must've deleted that when I deleted the red text.
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On February 17 2011 04:09 darmousseh wrote:
The only thing I can contribute is that if town mislynches twice, town loses if there are 3 mafia left.
10-3 now
8-3 after night ends
0 mislynches
8-2
7-2
7-1
5-1
5-0
1 mislynch
7-3
5-3
5-2
4-2
4-1
2-1
2-0
2 mislynches
7-3
5-3
4-3
2-3 GG
Assuming there are 3 mafia left that is. pevergreen was hinting at making a statement about how many mafia were left etc. This leads me to believe that atleast 1 mafia is dead. My math could be off though.
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On February 17 2011 04:37 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 04:05 LunarDestiny wrote:On February 17 2011 04:04 Believer wrote:On February 17 2011 04:03 chaoser wrote:On February 17 2011 03:58 Believer wrote:
I'm going to go out on a limb here, as other people also have. I think we need more clarity for the town to be able to sort out the scum from us all.
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You are Renata
You are a veteran player who always contributes to the sake of the town, even if mafia. You disguise yourself well in the midst of players, so as to not make yourself vulnerable. Due to time constraints you have been playing less and less during the recent couple of months but are eager to squeeze out a victory.
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
" Town usually has a "you are town" a line before the victory condition... Must've deleted that when I deleted the red text. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Wow...so you deleted that line and then the red text but not the line about the victory conditions that's between the two... Also, for all the people pushing this notion that we killed a mafia/mafia numbers are down, FoS on you. Until it's confirmed by kill count, i'm just going to read it as mafia trying to hide one of their members behind the idea that we killed one already so we're only looking for two, not three
Nice catch! This shows you are on your toes and notice things important about statements in this thread.
There are a few possibilities to "explain" this.
1. I am mafia, I forged my PM and made a fatal mistake that will now probably result in my lynch.
2. I am not mafia and I made a mistake in my deleting of the red text.
But why did I post a role PM? Let's look at the options for the two scenarios.
1a. I felt the need to blend in with the town. I deemed it was a good time to post a PM to convince people that I am town.
1b. I am a new player and this made sense at the time but looking back it was a rash (spelling?) decision and a dumb one.
2a. I want to narrow down the list of possible mafia, the smoke is beginning to clear now and we have more knowledge of characters than anytime before. By revealing myself I narrow it down by atleast 1 more person.
2b. I am a new player and hopped on the bandwagon of revealing my role PM.
Please do decide for yourself. I must express my deepest wishes that you give this decision the deep thought it deserves, we don't have many mislynches to work with.
As for the number of mafia members still alive.
I would like to think there are 2, as the evidence does point that way with pevergreen hinting at it and atheostes (was that his name?) dead.
We will see tonight though, how many kills there are.
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On February 17 2011 05:19 aidnai wrote:
Looks like a scum slip to me believer.
What's worse is that Mafia now won't kill me during the night and probably target the strongest of my accusors to make it seem likely that it is a slip.
We're all gonna pay dearly if you don't believe me..
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How is gryffindor not on that list?
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GGQ, welcome to Orgah Mafia. ; )
We really need you for analysing it seems.
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beefy, wouldn't it have been really wierd to get yourself as a role?
"This is how you behave, now behave like this."-style? I just thought of that, made me laugh IRL. :')
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On February 17 2011 16:23 pevergreen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 16:10 Believer wrote:
beefy, wouldn't it have been really wierd to get yourself as a role?
"This is how you behave, now behave like this."-style? I just thought of that, made me laugh IRL. :') That situation would have been even funnier for me, since I knew Beefy IRL.
I constantly imagine you chuckling over how we play this out, considering you know most of these people. : p
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Right now I have nothing new to analyze.
Do you guys have anything I can chip in on?
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Sup gryffindor? You don't think the OMGUS is getting old now?
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On February 17 2011 21:24 bumatlarge wrote:
you should lynch deconduo
Do you have anything to back that up with?
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On February 17 2011 23:15 beefy187 wrote:
Vote: Gryffindor
Regardless of his alignment, he must die.
I wouldn't cross off the Org players just from the kill pattern. Mafia can have a Quick topic where all the team members can discuss stuff. But I believe me and Fluffy is innocent because who ever was chosen GF wouldn't choose a outsider
Same goes for the style of writing.
Regardless of alignment
Why is that? I sure think he might be mafia but why must he die if he is not?
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On February 17 2011 23:41 JBright wrote:
Hmm, I'll just go with this.
Vote: Believer
Reason:
From: pevergreen [ 178 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Orgah mafia Role PM
Date: 2/11/11 09:44
You are Renata
One of the few female members of the Gameroom, you’re pressed for time lately, but you have an unlucky streak of being picked as mafia.
You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
Finally! Thank you!
This was my intention when I faked my role PM. To draw out others to claim it for themselves.
This is my real character.
You are Beirut.
You held lordship over the kingdom of peace and love (the frontroom, offtopic area) for years. You moderated it with a gentle hand, but used the axe of closing when necessary (you are a lumberjack in real life). When mafia started, you were the fictional head of each town, the one that carried out lynches, but rarely were you an actual player in the game, due to time constraints.
You are Town.
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
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For reference, this is my PM convo with coagulation about the matter.
From: Coagulation [ 3980 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: Re: Fake
Date: 2/15/11 06:13
ok but i gotta warn you
you might be in trouble if people try to enforce LAL (lynch all liars) policy lynch.
tl.net mafia is big on LAL policy.
just heads up. if anyone starts pushing lal its probably mafia tho.
Original Message From Believer:
According to the rules of this game I can only reveal my name in PM, the rest has to be via the thread.
I am Beirut.
I am currently working the Org forums for a true townie character that would propably feature.
Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Coagulation:
first tell me what your real role is.
second tell me what your gonna fake claim.
so i know your not playing any tricks.
after that i will back you up.
Original Message From Believer:
I'm thinking about faking a role claim to draw out a sure townie. Will you back me on this if they turn on me once I am revealed not to be that person?
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On February 18 2011 00:33 chaoser wrote:
wait, i'm confused, so is JBright confirmed now cause somehow he's a "true townie?". How do we know this is the case? I'm not saying you're lying about the whole fake claim but can you please give a bit more info on 1) why you picked Renata to fake claim and 2) why did you want to draw Renata out?
Let me get what I know out of the way first, then I'll speculate.
1) I picked Renata out of "chance". I knew that pevergreen had played with her earlier and that he probably respects her a great deal as a player. There was just no way she was going to be left out. The reason I say "chance" is that there are several people that fit this description. I picked whoever I thought would be the most likely.
2) Last game pevergreen played with her she was mafia. I thought that this might've influenced him.
I was hoping to be completely reassured that the counter-claim to mine would be true and that we would narrow down the suspects alot. Unfortunately I am no longer very certain, her description shouldn't be that short.
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Very nice analyzis deconduo.
I really am totally confused as to who is mafia. I was not prepared to be alive during an end-game mafia game quite so soon so I will really have to dig in here and try to find compelling arguments for any character at this time. I agree that gryffindor has been playing wierd, if I'm even allowed to say that during my first game. There are arguments for others though and it's alot to take in.
TLDR(WIFOM): Nice posting by the few who are atm. I am really confused, will get back to you on my standpoint in a few hours.
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Sorry for not giving my opinion sooner. I had some RL problems.
I'm back now though, inb4 the vote atleast I guess...
So there's been alot to read through, from the secret cyphers to the PM-accusations. thefluffyone93 I definately think is mafia. Have you seen his games on the Org? Constantly spamming up the thread with images and videos. If his role doesn't permit videos/images I'm sure he wouldn't be able to contain himself from just spamming text. These are my main reasons for:
Vote: thefluffyone93
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That was quite the uneventful death.. Does it tell us something?
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On February 18 2011 22:59 bumatlarge wrote:
That you are a massive sheep regardless of your alignment. I even forgot to put you in the list. Vig deconduo or chaoser. Hear my townie voice and OBEY.
Now now, let's not be mean.
From my standpoint we should go after mafia long before we go after vigs. How 'bout them bananas?
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On February 19 2011 00:55 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2011 10:11 thefluffyone93 wrote:On February 17 2011 03:51 deconduo wrote:
EBWOP:
Sasaki Kojiro (Always suspicious. He votes for Csargo)
Sasaki is probably thefluffyone. He voted for Misder(Csargo) first thing both days.
Possibly a mafia candidate too? Yes, I am Sasaki. "You are Sasaki KojiroYou’ve been here since the start of mafia. In fact, it was you that got the gameroom created. You were the original moderator, but those days have gone. You remain one of the best players though. You have a rivalry with ‘Csargo’ that almost predates time itself. Victory Condition: You win when all anti-town forces are eliminated."
Martok is the mayor isn't he?
I can't see what you see.
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If me and JBright were killed by the same man it definately indicates that it is the godfather.
Also a vigilante obviously, for the remaining kill.
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On February 19 2011 23:00 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2011 22:45 Believer wrote:
If me and JBright were killed by the same man it definately indicates that it is the godfather.
Also a vigilante obviously, for the remaining kill. Serial killer, not vig.
My bad.
Although it doesn't specify that it was the same guy who killed me and Renata, I still think it's the same.
It also says something about Rainbow, which is a character from the Org.
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You really need to get one of them today. If you don't we will unfortunately lose.
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On February 20 2011 06:11 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote:On February 20 2011 06:07 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote:
@Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green. sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch.
To me this looks more like a guilt plea and not a desperate try for victory. Mind you that if he is town he loses by this. I would certainly be more desperate and trying to hold on.
Most likely anti-town trying to guilt town into doubt. I support his lynch.
(Remember that these are the opinions of a first-time playing, dead townie)
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Spoiler tag for long post.
+ Show Spoiler +On February 20 2011 06:24 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2011 06:17 Believer wrote:On February 20 2011 06:11 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 06:08 deconduo wrote:On February 20 2011 06:07 Insanious wrote:On February 20 2011 05:57 deconduo wrote:
@Insanious Did you kill why? no I did not Ah well I was hoping your personality wouldn't allow you to lie, shame. I did not lie, I am not mafia or sk. i do not have any powers in this game. I cannot kill, I am a plain green. sorry town, that I apparently look so scummy that you are going to throw away the game on this lynch. To me this looks more like a guilt plea and not a desperate try for victory. Mind you that if he is town he loses by this. I would certainly be more desperate and trying to hold on. Most likely anti-town trying to guilt town into doubt. I support his lynch. (Remember that these are the opinions of a first-time playing, dead townie) If I am SK i lose by this, If I am Mafia I lose by this, If I am town, town loses by dying. So want to rethink this? If I am SK, then I am alone, I die... game over If I am GF, then according to everyone here GGQ and fluffy were mafia making the GF last living mafia member. If I am GF, I am alone, I die... game over. If I am town, then I get lynched, SK kills someone, and GF kills two people. Town loses... So guess what, no matter what role I am, if I die I lose. I have been disapointed with the play in this game, so have not posted. I still am disapointed and have little to nothing to go on for a defense. As such I repost my role PM: Show nested quote +
You are Crazed Rabbit
One of the veterans from the very early days, you originally had a reputation for never lying. You would always tell the truth. It led to complicated situations when you were mafia. Recently you’ve hosted some very interesting games
You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
Really think my role would be anti-town...
My statement is not that you would lose regardless. My statement is that the route you have taken, trying to guilt-trip the town into not lynching you, is suspicious. Suspicious because it is not backed by anything other than "Darnit, if you lynch me WE lose". A more usual response would be backing up against the wall and pleading to your friends not to mistake you as a foe. If you catch my metaphor (is that the correct spelling?).
These are my two cents, I will not pollute the discussion more at this time with my inexperience.
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Seeing as how critical the game has become, I really hope gryffindor and beefy can give their opinions soon, so we all can evaluate their thoughts on this.
I think it's quite clear how dearly town will pay in case of a wrong lynch, it's not necessary to iterate it more.
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I found my red text to be very hard. I'm not used to having that personality and I think I failed pretty hard..
But it's a great addition though, I liked trying to be that guy. :')
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deconduo, how much fun did you have pretending to be town to me?
You live, you learn.. But that was pretty brutal. =(
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You are Beirut.
You held lordship over the kingdom of peace and love (the frontroom, offtopic area) for years. You moderated it with a gentle hand, but used the axe of closing when necessary (you are a lumberjack in real life). When mafia started, you were the fictional head of each town, the one that carried out lynches, but rarely were you an actual player in the game, due to time constraints.
You are Town.
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.
It is in your nature to try and mediate all conflicts. When the tone rises, the thread gets off topic or people look like they may break the rules, you must try to calm it all down, get it back on track. You are basically an in thread moderator, with no powers.
Was my role. :')
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After all we had Deconduo, why did you betray me like this?
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