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On January 24 2011 13:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote: Let's get on to mayor discussion, who are our current candidates besides kavdragon? Me Kavdragon, and DrH iirc. Hmm so far I don't really like any of the candidates.
RoL didn't bring much of a platform. DrH, uggh how many times has he lead us astray us town leader? Kavdragon, I don't really like the things he is advocating for.
Anyone else want to run for mayor?
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kitaman27
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On January 24 2011 13:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Kita why have you stopped running?
Kavdragon was victorious in the primary, so now we must band together against the tyranny of DrHelvetica in the general election.
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I know it's not day yet, but I'm a strong supporter of immediate activity, and I want to point out a few things that look bad to me:
(Lunar Destiny, you were in Merc Mini, do you see this?)
We had a similar pre-day time that we were allowed to use in Merc Mini Mafia. RoL's (scum) play in Merc Mini Mafia? He HATED the 48hr night that we had before the game started, and didn't post at all. I eventually pressured him into posting, but he was very reluctant. What do you think of what he's doing here? He later confessed that he wasn't sure what to do with the time, and decided to keep quite instead of risking a slip up. He agreed that the time was valuable.
Also, he came in, read enough to see that people where talking about Qatol, but didn't read the mod-font that was explaining why we were looking at him? Could this be a tactic to make us think that he just came into the game, while in reality he's been organizing scum?
Since then he's done little other than put him self up for election, and lurk on the sidelines. This makes little sense for someone who I KNOW is capable of being a powerful townie.
I'd like to know what's up RoL, why the lurk?
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On January 24 2011 13:12 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On January 24 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote: Let's get on to mayor discussion, who are our current candidates besides kavdragon? Me Kavdragon, and DrH iirc. Hmm so far I don't really like any of the candidates. RoL didn't bring much of a platform. DrH, uggh how many times has he lead us astray us town leader? Kavdragon, I don't really like the things he is advocating for. Anyone else want to run for mayor? Once. I was only scum mayor once and it was my first game of my mafia about a year ago.
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On January 24 2011 13:12 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On January 24 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote: Let's get on to mayor discussion, who are our current candidates besides kavdragon? Me Kavdragon, and DrH iirc. Hmm so far I don't really like any of the candidates. RoL didn't bring much of a platform. DrH, uggh how many times has he lead us astray us town leader? Kavdragon, I don't really like the things he is advocating for. Anyone else want to run for mayor?
You complain with what I advocate, but don't suggest anything yourself. You put down the solving of the clue, and have not really advocated anything other than a discussion of inactive lynches, something that you never followed up on.
Start giving opinions. For instance, what exactly do not like, that I am advocating?
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On January 24 2011 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:12 Nemesis wrote:On January 24 2011 13:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On January 24 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote: Let's get on to mayor discussion, who are our current candidates besides kavdragon? Me Kavdragon, and DrH iirc. Hmm so far I don't really like any of the candidates. RoL didn't bring much of a platform. DrH, uggh how many times has he lead us astray us town leader? Kavdragon, I don't really like the things he is advocating for. Anyone else want to run for mayor? Once. I was only scum mayor once and it was my first game of my mafia about a year ago. I am not talking about you as a mayor, I mean as a town leader in general. I mean take a look at Salem mafia. I think that you are still a better candidate than kavdragon though, and if no one else steps up I will vote for you.
And Almost 1500 post, not sure if I can do any long post for my 1500th post as we have only gotten started, but don't expect me to post for a while.
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Dr.H, your platform toted that you were really good at clue analysis, but you've failed to work on either of the two clues we've been given. Why is that?
Sorry, I don't mean to come off chainsawy with these last few posts, but there have been a few things bugging me, and I think that I can talk about them now.
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On January 24 2011 12:52 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: DrH and Kav and anyone else running for mayor I'd like you to answer these questions:
How will you select BGs?
a) What do you think of having vets claim for BG? DrH You've already said you're against it but I'd like to know why.
b) What do you think of trying to get a red as BG? If you're against it why? If you're for it why and how do you propose doing this?
c) What do you think about having people volunteer for BG?
How will you determine you first lynch?
Which mayor power will you use first and why?
I've heard different people say different things about each of these subjects but I'd like to hear each of the mayoral candidates give difinitive answers to each of these questions.
a) because veterans claiming ruins the point of a role. the purpose of the veteran role, as i see it, is to get hit NOT to avoid getting hit. this just allows the mafia to narrow down their hit list and get more kills. veteran roleclaiming is a potential mafia KP increase
b)I'm against it because then the mafia will be able to kill the mayor very easily.
c)I don't care. It's more stuff to analyse and it might throw the mafia off.
I am only interested in checking mafia numbers. I think the other checks aren't nearly as important. The information that is absolutely necessary to catching other mafia is determining for sure whether or not we lynched a mafia or not. So that's what I would do.
What do you mean which mayor power? There is only one: census.
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On January 24 2011 13:28 Kavdragon wrote: Dr.H, your platform toted that you were really good at clue analysis, but you've failed to work on either of the two clues we've been given. Why is that?
Sorry, I don't mean to come off chainsawy with these last few posts, but there have been a few things bugging me, and I think that I can talk about them now. Because I've been playing Little Big Planet 2 and cleaning my room.
I prefer to think about things thoroughly before I post about them. There is no point posting every half baked idea I might have about the clues and it'll just be cluttering. I have been working on and thinking about the clues, just because I haven't been posting about them doesn't mean I'm not thinking about it. I'll post my thoughts on it when I feel I have something to say that has yet to be said and that may actually lead somewhere.
I just don't have any strong feelings about the clues. If I had to point a finger somewhere it'd be at OriginalName or Nemesis I guess. It's weak though.
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On January 24 2011 13:28 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On January 24 2011 13:12 Nemesis wrote:On January 24 2011 13:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On January 24 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote: Let's get on to mayor discussion, who are our current candidates besides kavdragon? Me Kavdragon, and DrH iirc. Hmm so far I don't really like any of the candidates. RoL didn't bring much of a platform. DrH, uggh how many times has he lead us astray us town leader? Kavdragon, I don't really like the things he is advocating for. Anyone else want to run for mayor? Once. I was only scum mayor once and it was my first game of my mafia about a year ago. I am not talking about you as a mayor, I mean as a town leader in general. I mean take a look at Salem mafia. I think that you are still a better candidate than kavdragon though, and if no one else steps up I will vote for you. And Almost 1500 post, not sure if I can do any long post for my 1500th post as we have only gotten started, but don't expect me to post for a while.
I did really well in Insane Mafia. I feel I did well in Salem Mafia too. The game didn't fall apart because I was bad, the game fell apart because the rest of the town was too stupid to think for itself.
I made a critical error in not pursuing SouthRawrea as soon as I figured he was scum. Everytime I fall short it's because I second guess myself.
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Ok, this is my last post for a while, the thing that bothers me about your campaign is you hold the mayor as an extremely important role that making the mayor survive is more important than killing scum.
It would be well worth it if you can trade the mayor for 1 scum, it would be even better if you can trade for 2 but that's highly unlikely.
Also, making greens volunteer to be bodyguard is such an ANTI-TOWN PLAN. It would let mafia be able to narrow down who is blue from those who did not volunteer.
Well I'm off for tonight.
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My last post was directed at kavdragon.
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Thanks DrH and Kav.
Since everyone volunteering for BG would give the mafia an idea of who green or not what if we had only three or four volunteers. Most of the town stays hidden, we get two very likely town BGs and we have one or two leftovers who are also likely town. This will also eliminate the chances that a mafia might volunteer for BG because in a four person volunteer pool there's a fifty percent chance of being picked.
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If I'm elected mayor I won't pick only people who volunteered. I will pick the two people I am most confident are town. And I will not reveal to the town who I picked.
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how can you consider who is very likely town when you are asking for only 3-4 volunteers. What if 6 volunteers show up and all of em are scum?
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On January 24 2011 13:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I'm elected mayor I won't pick only people who volunteered. I will pick the two people I am most confident are town. And I will not reveal to the town who I picked.
You have to: Mayor You are the elected leader of the town. Elections will take place on day 1. When elected, you will publicly select two bodyguards to protect you for the rest of the game. While bodyguards are alive, you cannot be targeted by night hits or the roleblocker. Role checks on you will return “Mayor”.
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On January 24 2011 13:12 Nemesis wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:04 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On January 24 2011 13:02 Nemesis wrote: Let's get on to mayor discussion, who are our current candidates besides kavdragon? Me Kavdragon, and DrH iirc. Hmm so far I don't really like any of the candidates. RoL didn't bring much of a platform. DrH, uggh how many times has he lead us astray us town leader? Kavdragon, I don't really like the things he is advocating for. Anyone else want to run for mayor? My platform would be self explanatory. I am a decent scumhunter, a high n1 hit target. That's about it. either you want me as a leader or you don't. Either way I am fine with it. I don't consider it mattering that much which is why I didn't go all out with mspaint and shit.
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On January 24 2011 13:46 zerroth wrote: how can you consider who is very likely town when you are asking for only 3-4 volunteers. What if 6 volunteers show up and all of em are scum? You can't.
The only advantage to the volunteer thing that I can think of is that it might mislead mafia hit choice but otherwise I think it's entirely pointless.
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On January 24 2011 13:48 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I'm elected mayor I won't pick only people who volunteered. I will pick the two people I am most confident are town. And I will not reveal to the town who I picked. You have to: Mayor You are the elected leader of the town. Elections will take place on day 1. When elected , you will publicly select two bodyguards to protect you for the rest of the game. While bodyguards are alive, you cannot be targeted by night hits or the roleblocker. Role checks on you will return “Mayor”. This mechanic seems stupid to me, I dunno why the two BG's are publicly announced as 100% truth. Annoying as shit and removes any skill from the role.
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On January 24 2011 13:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On January 24 2011 13:48 Amber[LighT] wrote:On January 24 2011 13:46 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If I'm elected mayor I won't pick only people who volunteered. I will pick the two people I am most confident are town. And I will not reveal to the town who I picked. You have to: Mayor You are the elected leader of the town. Elections will take place on day 1. When elected , you will publicly select two bodyguards to protect you for the rest of the game. While bodyguards are alive, you cannot be targeted by night hits or the roleblocker. Role checks on you will return “Mayor”. This mechanic seems stupid to me, I dunno why the two BG's are publicly announced as 100% truth. Annoying as shit and removes any skill from the role.
Yah I don't really agree with the mechanic, but I understand it's usefulness for the town and balance for the census ability.
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