TL Mafia XXXVI - Page 111

On February 10 2011 04:52 CubEdIn wrote:
I haven't posted thoughts on anyone, actually.

Throughout the game, I have suspected a lot of people who later on died. GMarshal was one of my prime suspects, actually, especially due to some things in the first part of the game. Then, I looked into Coagulation, Kenpachi, but compared to the other games they're just behaving normally. (Kenpachi has a gift for looking scummy btw, but I don't think he's scum).

I didn't think that Jackal is scum, I thought it was just tunneling, and I get that you have to try and rattle people in this game. But today when he said that he'll "keep doing that until he dies", mixed with the fact that some people take him for granted makes me think that it's a really really clever way to stay out of focus. He has me to target, and he doesn't have to give any other reasons than the clue. He'll just keep voting me until one of us dies, and only after that he needs to find another target (probably Divinek), and only after THAT, people will find him suspicious, and it might be too late.
(I still agree with the trade, by the way, to get us both lynched, but you seemed to have turned from "trading" to "kill them both and then maybe somewhat consider me". But that's ok. For now.

Kav, I don't trust Kav. I haven't trusted kav since the beginning, but he did seem to help town in some tight spots and he figured out some things by himself (like pointing out bum before he claimed and whatnot). He also seems fishy with things like... he knew the mafia knew he was medic, but he didn't let the town know. Why? And even after the hit on him, he let people go on after clues before saying that he was protecting GM (at least I was trying to find a connection to 'the doctors couldn't help him', when in fact it was a straight-out explanation that he was medic protected but the medic was role-blocked). However, this doesn't matter, at all. If Kav was mafia he was still truthful about census, and his play would've been damn-right perfect. So if he was scum, then town has lost already.

BrownBear - I like him the most, because in many points throughout the game we were pretty much saying the same things, so we somewhat think alike. I was expected to be "paired" with him as mafia, not Divinek, but I see the reasoning there. And due to the fact that I know I'm green, and we posted pretty much the same things, I'll give him a 99% green in my book.

Barundar - I don't know. He poked at me twice during this game, but it seems reasonable. I'm not good at post analysis so I just do/say what I think. I didn't build up an opinion on him, but I was thinking that if he did nail some things on the mafia he'd have been dead a while back. So he might mean well but he hasn't proven as useful as Kav, for example. I would vote for easily if a clue pointed at him though.

Impervious - It's not just the connection, even though it's the ONLY connection that was found in the clue, it's also Kav's post regarding you, and the fact that the town is voting for you. I really don't know who to vote for, but someone has to die, and you're more than a coinflip to me due to the clue. I know it's terrible, I said it's terrible, but it's better than nothing at all. If Kav hadn't had the hunch about you, I would've probably voted for myself tonight.
However, the fact that he only reacted when I voted for him is suspicious. There are what, 4-5 votes on him already, but when I vote for him he switches focus on me? Probably because part from him, I'm most likely to get lynched, so it's the only way out.

As for everyone else, I really don't have any clear thoughts on them. Mostly because they've been quiet, this includes darmousseh. I really don't like his play style, mainly because he bandwagons and FoSs only people who have been FoS-ed before. He's just sitting in a corner, laughing when everyone else is laughing, and tagging along for the ride, but he isn't even trying to bring his own contribution. In fact, the only meaningful contribution was "well, I also pushed cube in mini mafia, and he was town!". Well played there, powerful argument.

So, let's end it with Divinek. I also find him as sort-of a lurker. He doesn't say much, he doesn't do much, he mostly replies when he's being targeted. But the reason I left him for last is that... there are others that do the same. There's no good reason why I would think he is scum just because of that. And if you want me to agree that rooting for LD was scummy, then I would have to admit that what I did/said was scummy as well, which is dumb. If that's your reasoning, then there are three scum in the game left, since BB did the same.
That being said, it's very possible that if the mafia knew there would only be two people left, then they would take different sides. One pushing for LD, someone pushing against LD. That's what I would do in that scenario.

Anyway, bottom line is that I don't really know if Divinek is scummy or not. But I don't think that his push for LD was scummy, so much as his lurking and playing along is. If he'd give out more insight he'd be ok in my book but he never does. So no, I wouldn't even bother coming up with arguments against his lynch, nor would I bother with anyone else part from Kav or BrownBear. Unless someone makes an epic post like Nemesis did, that clears him of all guilt in my eyes.

...boy that was long. Please ask me to detail if I was unclear, because I don't have time to proof-read it. Cheers.