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On January 05 2011 14:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
ok...Good point Darth. I just got to read the thread. -_-
I want to clarify. PANDAIN and Barundar, are not confirmed. So I don't think anyone should claim to them just yet.
OpZ, you got to step up and lead the town if you don't want unconfirmed people leading it. There are a lot of trust placed on Pandain because of your absense.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On January 05 2011 13:43 Incognito wrote:
It is now Night 3. Role actions to me, 24 hours to go.
And Incog!!
What?
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On January 05 2011 14:41 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 14:39 ~OpZ~ wrote:
ok...Good point Darth. I just got to read the thread. -_-
I want to clarify. PANDAIN and Barundar, are not confirmed. So I don't think anyone should claim to them just yet. OpZ, you got to step up and lead the town if you don't want unconfirmed people leading it. There are a lot of trust placed on Pandain because of your absense.
Yeah. Shockeyy apparently distrusts pandain and barundar too....
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Well Pandain was saying in the irc that you prolly should claim to Opz before him.
Excerpt from the logs:
+ Show Spoiler +[17:43] <Pandain> what do you think about claiming to opz? [17:43] <LunarDestiny_> I really want him to join the chat channel and prove that he is capable of doing analysis without someone's help [17:44] <barry> opz is fine if he can not share it with others [17:44] <LunarDestiny_> i'll claim to opz since mafia won't take the risk of fake claiming [17:44] <LunarDestiny_> but i am afraid opz will leak information [17:45] <LunarDestiny_> and I don't think opz will be active and will be able to coordinate town [17:45] <barry> would rather pandain coordinated indeed [17:46] <Pandain> the problem is I'm not confirmed yet [17:46] <barry> u sorta are [17:46] <barry> annul raged on you [17:47] <Pandain> it could be epic mafia set up [17:49] <barry> yeah... [17:49] <barry> and you also suggested killing annul... [17:49] <barry> if you want to wifom the shit out of everything you can, but... [17:49] <Pandain> Just saying to be safe [17:50] <MrWiggles> Who would think of a mafia who would kill his own godfather? It's the perfect plan =P [17:50] <Pandain> I'll take anything I get cause I love feeling powerful/in control but just saying it would actually(well might) be dumb to claim to me [17:51] <Pandain> (hint hint claim to me XD) [17:51] <MrWiggles> Even people who claim can't *really* be trusted except for some who can prove what they are and be verified, otherwise we need to wait on Dt checks, right? [17:52] <barry> and with framer not even then ^^ [17:52] <barry> its only interesting if pandain can coordinate some medic action [17:52] <MrWiggles> Well if they come back blue or green they are that haha
He says he can be trusted, but also warns against just blindly claiming to him, because he *could* still be mafia, just like anyone unconfirmed. In my opinion, people should claim to Opz as it seems he is confirmed. If however many DTs claim to him than there could be if pandain was too, we know something's up with people claiming DT. But otherwise, we can start some kind of coordination as far as medic protection or maybe even hatter bombs go within that town circle. Then you can just add more people in as DT checks come in.
I'm just not sure how you can verify if a DT is telling the truth with the framer around unless you've already been in contact with them and know what they've been doing all game. Too easy to get contradictory returns from different DTs unless they happened to check the same person on the same night, then they should have returned the same result. For example, a mafia could claim DT, and then say one of his scumbuddies is checked town, and even if a real dt checked them different, if it was on a different night they could put the blame on the framer screwing the results. So unless we have all DTs claiming to the same person (Opz if he is town), and cross-checking their results, we won't be able to differentiate real DTs from fake ones. Or am I being dumb, and there's no way you could forge DT results and pose as one? :p
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On January 04 2011 18:26 Barundar wrote:
I agree with Orgolove. Lynch Meapak as scum and either Shockeyy or GeorgeClooney as lurker.
Why did you explain to orgolove what happened with the RoL hit? You commented that mepak was scum, and shockeyy and george clooney are lurkers...
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On January 05 2011 04:47 Barundar wrote:
No point lynching darth over gc in my opinion. We get nothing from gc, hardcore lurker.
We find out if role blocker is real.
Pandain claimed DT, and roleblock last night.....But we find that out tomorrow.
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Enter the OpZ.
It's true that paindain and barundar have been guiding the town, and the double lynch was pretty sub par (at least no blues were killed). Paindain's been sussing out the blues by Pm'ing everybody including myself.
What I'm trying to say is, if they really are mafia then they are currently causing damage and have enormous potential to win the game for mafia since only a couple of us are starting to point fingers at them.
This is what I think about when OpZ says that paindain and barundar are not confirmed. Which is true since we're not all DT's. I have to say they've been pretty damn good acting as townie. I still want to believe they're townie but just take what they say with a grain of salt.
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I would also probably be a good medic protection target.
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Also, it would be nice if the medics, dt's, hatters, pm'd me. Only so I can pick your posts out and know who FoS at.
good DT checks,
Pandain, Barundar, Shockeyy, Darth. Any return of town is good.
Seraph is obviously mafia. Who's the only blatant person that CAN NOT SEEM TO GATHER VOTES and attention. Jesus.
Most of his posts have been defending himself, he hasn't role claimed to me, and the little exchange between mepak and him?
This should be priority one imo.
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I find it kind of interesting how I and other townies are so concerned with proving our own innosence. Meapak wrote me he trusted me completely and would fight for me, and that feaked me out.
We brought it down on annul, I really don't need other proof than that. That annul rage on Pandain, just underlines a point. I trusted Pandain before this, simply for what he brought to the table and the way in which we exchanged opinions.
Shockeyy you are acting like an idiot. Start following or I'm gonna assume you are dumb or mafia. And I don't think you are dumb.
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My computer's currently broken (on a friend's) - hopefully, I'll be able to go get it fixed in the morning =[.
Thoughts:
I didn't think Meapak was mafia (didn't know/care about GC), but I thought it'd be worse to have 10 townies suddenly change their votes, and then we lose a day's worth of information.
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Vatican City State1650 Posts
Ugh. What pathetic idiocy. He acted so scummily as to leave us no choice, but turned out to be a town. Wow.
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United States1967 Posts
On January 05 2011 12:02 seRapH wrote:
Great. That's over with. Can we get on to the real scum like Mr.Zergling and TheMango now?
lol, please explain why I am scum? I may have missed it, but I dont think you provided any analysis or reasoning to back up your accusation.
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On January 05 2011 17:19 Barundar wrote:
I find it kind of interesting how I and other townies are so concerned with proving our own innosence. Meapak wrote me he trusted me completely and would fight for me, and that feaked me out.
We brought it down on annul, I really don't need other proof than that. That annul rage on Pandain, just underlines a point. I trusted Pandain before this, simply for what he brought to the table and the way in which we exchanged opinions.
Shockeyy you are acting like an idiot. Start following or I'm gonna assume you are dumb or mafia. And I don't think you are dumb.
No. Shockeyy is likely mafia imo too.
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On January 06 2011 03:20 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 17:19 Barundar wrote:
I find it kind of interesting how I and other townies are so concerned with proving our own innosence. Meapak wrote me he trusted me completely and would fight for me, and that feaked me out.
We brought it down on annul, I really don't need other proof than that. That annul rage on Pandain, just underlines a point. I trusted Pandain before this, simply for what he brought to the table and the way in which we exchanged opinions.
Shockeyy you are acting like an idiot. Start following or I'm gonna assume you are dumb or mafia. And I don't think you are dumb. No. Shockeyy is likely mafia imo too.
...I dunno. Looking through the thread, Pandain went from defending LSB, to attacking LSB, to defending, and back to attacking....-_- I'm at a crossroads when it comes to lynching him. I definitely wouldn't mind a hatter to bomb him, if there is one.
I wouldn't trust the town in the hands of people completely unconfirmed....
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United States1967 Posts
so seraph and shockeyy should be our lynch targets as per OpZ?
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On January 06 2011 04:06 TheMango wrote:
so seraph and shockeyy should be our lynch targets as per OpZ?
I'll rather have vigs shoot them. I don't want them to be nightkilled without making the shot.
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United States1967 Posts
Question, what shows in the night post if mafia kill each other? Do they reveal as mafia still?
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On January 06 2011 05:14 TheMango wrote:
Question, what shows in the night post if mafia kill each other? Do they reveal as mafia still?
Of course. Their role is mafia, so they will flip red.
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