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On January 04 2011 08:17 Soulfire wrote:
Gonna keep it simple since you barely said anything in that analysis...
1. I play the "newb card" because I am a newb, lol. Not everything is a hint, of course you have to force things to make this analysis seem valid.
2. Did you even read what I said? You sounded pretty scummy, taking into account the information fishing you were doing, but I preferred Brocket in the end because he was more scummy, and a lurker. And how was I following you again?
3. Changed my mind because I didn't think clearly enough and followed a bandwagon because I'm a newb - clearly you didn't read my defense post, or just didn't pay attention.
4. I don't think I'm a lurker tbh, not like some others like Darth or GeorgeClooney... I'm a newb who comments on the posts of others when necessary. TBH half of the posts from "active" players are useless, so taking that into account, I'm just saying what I can and not pointing fingers randomly. I even said I was voting for Mr. Wiggles as a temporary vote, though I never bothered changing it because I knew it wouldn't go through, and everyone was set on annul.
Kinda obnoxious how you guys do these forced analysis posts - I guess I'm a lurker because I don't, though.
The problem is you have barely said anything. And that is not acceptable.
Obviously you are not going to be able to comment on every single thing that happens. But when you only have like 10 posts in a thread over 1000 posts long, that is just unacceptable. The point is you have not contributed at all, besides your own defense. The most you've accomplished has been switching your vote from Brockett back to LSB, and besides that you haven't said a SINGLE PERSON who you think might be scum(at least without any proof.)
Why do you come in and defend yourself yet not contribute otherwise?
Why haven't you at least gave your own solid opinion on very important matters. For example, what do you think about role claiming to Opz/me. Furthormore, you've said "we should lynch lurkers" numerous times and yet lets look at your votes:
On December 28 2010 16:01 Soulfire wrote:
##Vote: LSB
On December 29 2010 08:21 Soulfire wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Brocket
On December 29 2010 11:37 Soulfire wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote LSB
On December 31 2010 17:34 Soulfire wrote:
##Vote Mr. Wiggles
The mot "lurkerish" person you have voted is Brockett, who has twice the amount of posts you do.
Why aren't you doing what you said you will do?
Why aren't you contributing? And let me say this again, being new is not an excuse. Everyone has opinions, and since you said you have analyzed the posting habits of "veterans" in your first post, why aren't you just as motivated in this thread?
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pm me your roles. pandain did ask me to change the hit from rol but i dont have any solid proof when it comes to actions. i used my hit on rol. we'd have something more to work with. bout to head to the comp tho, so ill be around
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Alright, if my lack of free time + nubishness makes me more suspicious than scummy lurkers, go ahead and lynch - I just don't see any points here other than my inability to find something to discuss...
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I hope we know what we're doing, because I feel really out of the loop right now =\
I'm voting MrZergling and Meapak to consolidate voting candidates and because they are two of the people on my scumbuddy list.
I have a question to throw out, There were 3 night hits, or 2+roleblock.
If 3 night hits went down and Opz was telling the truth that means that mafia BLATANTLY ignored RoL's roleclaim. That makes no sense.
If 2 night hits went down then Opz is mafia who tried to confirm himself by claiming vigi and "adding night KP" when in reality the KP didn't change at all. Mafia would not ignore RoL's roleclaim in this case.
So my question is why is Opz "confirmed"?
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On January 04 2011 10:36 Soulfire wrote:
Alright, if my lack of free time + nubishness makes me more suspicious than scummy lurkers, go ahead and lynch - I just don't see any points here other than my inability to find something to discuss...
What makes you any different than "scummy lurkers"?
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I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?
Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...
Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.
From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth
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On January 04 2011 10:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?
Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...
Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.
From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth
How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense.
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On January 04 2011 10:52 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 10:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?
Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...
Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.
From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense.
Wait....How do you know.....?
[quote]
22 of 30 players remaining
? of ? Detectives remaining
? of ? Medics remaining
? of ? Vigilante remaining
? of ? Mad Hatters remaining
? of ? Veterans remaining
6 Town-aligned players have been killed
2 Mafia have been killed (Cumulative Mafia Count)
0 of 1 Godfathers remaining
? of ? Roleblockers remaining
? of ? Framers remaining
Mafia KP = ?
Current Mafia KP: 2
/quote]
What?
KP at two. So my vigi hit makes sense? Then what are you arguing? I was posting from my phone, I had to of read something wrong. Has anyone claimed to have hit anyone? Any other vigi claim at all? No. I been at work, and now I posted, almost a full day after night results. Plenty of time for another claim. Plenty of time for a counter claim. I'm voting you.
That's how I'm confirmed.
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On January 04 2011 10:52 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 10:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?
Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...
Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.
From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense.
It's not confirmed though. This just makes you look scummier.
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On January 04 2011 11:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 10:52 seRapH wrote:On January 04 2011 10:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?
Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...
Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.
From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense. It's not confirmed though. This just makes you look scummier.
EBWOP. I'm not arguing about KP, I beleive opz however we don't know that the number remaining is four.
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On January 04 2011 11:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 11:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On January 04 2011 10:52 seRapH wrote:On January 04 2011 10:48 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I'm actually kind of confused. Night one three died. And last night 2, but I hit RoL....So mafia two stacked RoL? Did a medic save?
Barundar would of known I was hitting RoL...So i don't know...
Pandain asked me to hit Darth instead.
From: Pandain [ 2845 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: mmm
Date: 1/3/11 07:28
remember: shoot darth How is that confusing? Mafia is down to four, their KP reduced to 2. Add in a vigi or a roleblock and it makes sense. It's not confirmed though. This just makes you look scummier. EBWOP. I'm not arguing about KP, I beleive opz however we don't know that the number remaining is four.
Seraph seems pretty certain that it's four though.
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Everyone, I'm Confirmed town, I need more claims. We need to be coordinated, and this is the perfect opportunity.
I claimed vigi, prior to night. Another vigi claiming my hit hasn't stepped forward, which a vigi with a spent hit is green so he would have NO REASON not to. I'm 100% Confirmed town, by the fact that other hit has occured and nobody has contested it.
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We are not missing KP. I had assumed that there were 6 mafia, since we had 30 players and the KP was 3 for the first day. Didn't realize that the number wasn't released, but I still believe that four are left.
In any case, last night definitely required either 3 night hits or 2 night hits and a roleblock. Since one of the two possibilities does not require Opz to be vigi, I do not see how you can be so sure that he's confirmed.
If there were 3 people dead from last night this would be happening very differently, but because only two people actually died I refuse to blindly assume that Opz is confirmed.
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RoL was vet though, so that requires two hits to kill him. 2(RoL)+1(Node) = 3. 2 mafia hits + vigi = 3. Unless there is another vig who hasn't come forward, it looks like Opz is telling the truth.
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Two people died, a townie and a vet. That requires three hits. The mafia has two KP. Opz has one KP. One plus two equals three. There is no counter claim. Opz is town QED. Unless the mafia did a shot in the dark roleblocked. We already know pandain was blocked. There are probably not two roleblockers. Logic and probability say opz is town.
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On January 04 2011 11:38 seRapH wrote:
We are not missing KP. I had assumed that there were 6 mafia, since we had 30 players and the KP was 3 for the first day. Didn't realize that the number wasn't released, but I still believe that four are left.
In any case, last night definitely required either 3 night hits or 2 night hits and a roleblock. Since one of the two possibilities does not require Opz to be vigi, I do not see how you can be so sure that he's confirmed.
If there were 3 people dead from last night this would be happening very differently, but because only two people actually died I refuse to blindly assume that Opz is confirmed.
Opz is a confirmed vig unless another person claims to be a vig who used night action on RoL or Node. I don't think this part "2 night hits and a roleblock" is a possible answer to night 2's hit. I think you are just to say that mafia roleblocked RoL and used 2 night kill on RoL and Node.
Look at roleblocker's description:
Mafia Roleblocker
Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked, and if the person being blocked has a night action, he or she will not be able to use it. Please note that this ability only pertains to active actions. Passive abilities, such as the Veteran's extra lives, cannot be blocked by mafia.
This suggests that RoL the veteran can not be roleblocked and killed by 1 KP.
So unless another person step up and claims to be a vig who used night action on night 2 on RoL or Node, Opz is a confirmed vig.
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I like how all of you have posted that and no one is claiming to me. That's nice.
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To explain why I voted Darth:
There is not a good reason behind this vote. I played two games with darth and in both games, he contributed.
Ignoring Caller's Third Kingdom game... (that game didn't make sense)
In TL Mafia XXVI Darth epicly raped me and made me think he is town 85% of the game (I had two games of experience at that time). Although he is mafia in that game, he was active and made very good posts on people he analyzed. He played very different in this game so I voted for him to see how he would defend himself. Darth did very little to defend himself and that is making me unsure of my vote.
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On January 04 2011 12:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I like how all of you have posted that and no one is claiming to me. That's nice.
How about I (we?) wait until tomorrow and do that? I want to be safe.
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On January 04 2011 12:19 LunarDestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2011 12:08 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I like how all of you have posted that and no one is claiming to me. That's nice. How about I (we?) wait until tomorrow and do that? I want to be safe.
Work 8am to 5pm EST. So I'll have less time to coordinate everything. But sure. Not like there hasn't already been 24 hours for a claim besides mine.
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