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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 10 2011 17:38 GMT
#1332
How is voting for Brocket suspicious? He's a dead red.
I also think TheMango is a lurker red. And since nobody seems to have any interest in lynching Pandain I'll probably switch my vote to mango.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 12 2011 12:04 GMT
#1374
Mango is red. I've been saying it for a week.
I wouldn't mind lynching our DT either. What a useless pos.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 12 2011 22:22 GMT
#1380
On January 12 2011 23:29 TheMango wrote:
lol, just saw your point about me voting meapeak during night. It's ridiculous that you think that's a scum tell. Give me a break, I obviously messed up and posted incorrectly. If anything, I WOULDN'T make that mistake as mafia. I'm not even going to bother responding to you anymore. Everyone else should be very wary of being misled by orgolove, either intentionally or mistakenly, as his analysis is very flawed.

Well every lynch so far has been flawed. I don't see how one more is going to do anything. WHERE ARE YOU PEOPLE????????
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 12 2011 22:32 GMT
#1381
On January 13 2011 07:21 Pandain wrote:
Just voting people who turn out to be red doesn't mean you yourself are red. I disagree with the statement that Mango is mafia. I think he's town.

Mango seems to me just a bored/new townie. He's uncomfortable with the online format, and has even told me several times he's just chillaxing cause he's pretty confused. I do think he is suspicious, but think IloveJonn/d3 would be a far better choice to lynch.

There are a number of reasons why I think theMango is town, or at least why Ilovejonn/d3 are better lynches.

1.Mango has at least posted with decent content. He posts, and doesn't try to act like he's contributing really. He posts short things with short content. Mafia usually want to act like they're at least being pretty contributive. This is why d3 is suspicious. He's posted pretty long things, but they're all either repeats of what someone else said, about the format of the game, or after I force him to post.

2.Mango pmed me several times, on his own. Usually mafia don't want to be the one contributing, they want to just sit back and let the town not talk for 24 hours.

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On January 12 2011 21:04 Jackal58 wrote:
Mango is red. I've been saying it for a week.
I wouldn't mind lynching our DT either. What a useless pos.


Posts like this are the suspicious posts. First of all, why would you want to lynch our DT, at all!! Second of all, he just says "ya, mango is red" without saying anything about it. This is why Jackal is now suspicious to me.

I agree with soulfire, but will be voting D_3 for the second lynch.


Basically I take this as meaning soulfire and D_3 are both going to flip green.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 01:27 GMT
#1383
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 03:27 GMT
#1391
On January 13 2011 10:53 Pandain wrote:
Also wth are some of these reasons for people voting me

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On January 08 2011 09:39 Jackal58 wrote:
I voted solely in the hopes of waking somebody up.

Ok here goes.
Pandain. He needs to go. I have no idea if he is red or blue. At this point it really makes no difference.This game has reached an impasse that is due mostly to his claim of being role blocked. No other blues are coming forward with info due in large part I believe to mistrust of Pandain.
If we lynch Pandain and he flips blue then red no longer knows who to role block. A DT without info is useless any ways. If our medics have been protecting him then they can move on to others and perhaps we can get a scum tell from who is still around after night.
If he flips red then I commend him for playing a masterful game to this point.
But he has to go.
All aboard the Pandain Pain Train!!!!!!
WOO WOO!!!!!! Chugachugachuga Chugachugachuga.


He's saying lynch a DT(he was under the impression I was dt, hey, mafia thought so too. coincidence?). But really, LYNCH A DT? He said "now we don't have to protect him. Plus he's useless". Theres a reason why medics would've protected dts!

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On January 13 2011 10:38 Soulfire wrote:


Voting for TheMango and Pandain off of a hunch;



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On January 13 2011 08:06 TheMango wrote:
voting Jackal58 and Pandain. Don't think both are mafia, but one is bound to be imo, and I have no idea who's mafia at this point. If we can vote off one mafia this day, it's a win for town.



Does anyone not see what's happening here....???

Are DTs claiming to you? Do we have any DTs? My post was merely a reflection of my frustration of their apparent ineptitude.

I sent a PM earlier today to player in this game betting a donut that you would divert the vote from the 2 people that seemed to be o the fast track to a lynching. You did. You have done this repeatedly and with great success. Changing the vote to a townie. Even by virtue of dumb luck we should have lynched a red by now.I'm not joining any more of your diversions. I'm not counting on any of our DTs giving us info. This game is no longer an exercise in logic. It is now all about acting on our intuition. I'm not changing my vote. You are either red or blessed with really bad juju.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 13:12 GMT
#1393
On January 13 2011 15:07 why wrote:
So, I did some math:

The split right now is likely 7 townies and 3 mafia. If we double mislynch today then we are down to 5 townies. Then, there are would be 2 NK so, barring a medic save or a vet hit we'd be down to 3. And then we have lost. Let me repeat that:

If we double mislynch today and there isn't a medic save or vet hit tonight, we lose.

What does this mean? Mafia are much more likely to strongly push lynches and take risks today, as they will win if they can lynch two towns. Therefore, we need to be very careful with orgolove's suggested plan. If orgolove is red, then he has just picked two green players that seem particularly scummy to lynch, hope town sheeps with him, and then when they both flip green there are no consequences because he just won the game for the reds. Because of this, we should try to lynch someone other than TheMango or Soulfire. I don't care which doesn't get lynched (orgolove's case for both is pretty convincing, to be honest) but only one of them at most should because if they are both town then orgolove just won the game for mafia. I also think it is suspicious that as soon as orgolove posted that, three other people immediately followed his lead (ilovejohn, Mr. Zergling, and Jackal58, although Jackal58 since changed one of his votes to pandain). This, to me, looks like mafia is jumping on a green bandwagon which means one or both of TheMango and Soulfire are probably green.

I still think Mr. Zergling is a likely red especially given the bandwagon, and ilovejohn and jackal58 are also much more on my radar now given their quick jumping on the bandwagon. So, I'm going to switch my second vote from soulfire to ilovejohn for now (since jackal58 at least changed his vote off of soulfire).

TLDR; Orgolove could be mafia, don't let both soulfire and TheMango die.

My vote for Soulfire and TheMango was just to see which of them Pandain was going to attempt to divert the vote from.
You could well be right about Orgolove. I could be right about Pandain. I sent Orgolove a PM yesterday regarding Paindains seemingly uncanny ability to switch the vote. It was sent to see if Pandain and Orgolove were talking to each other. At this point it does not appear that they are. Pandain did exactly what I expected him to do. If he and Orgo are both red I think they would both probably have switched up the vote to me. But it appears they are both aligned differently. I cannot say with any certainty which one is Red but one of them is. I think if we lynch them both today we will reduce reds kp and at the least extend the game through another day cycle that will allow one of our dts to claim and tell us who the remaining 2 mafia are. On that basis I am going to vote Orgolove and Pandain for lynch today.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 13:13 GMT
#1394
Of course the downside to that plan is nobody will be posting in this thread but me.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 19:37 GMT
#1397
On January 14 2011 03:33 TheMango wrote:
Why do you guys keep assuming we have DT's, correct me if I'm wrong, but especially with the number of veteran/vigilantes we had so far, isn't it likely that we could have no DT's and maybe even only 2 mafia left? I think we shouldn't rely on DT's saving us and start thinking for ourselves. It's a bad mentality to use DT's as a crutch.

If we do have a DT, and he/they only happened to check people who are dead now, it wouldn't help to come out now anyway.

We have a dead Mafia Framer. That role would be superfluous without any detectives. I am going to assume we have at least 1. I will also assume we still have at least i doc and 1 mad hatter left. And 3 mafia reaming.
Nobody has made any role claims since day 2 when Pandain claimed to be a DT and then later recanted. I have no real idea who DT may be but now would be a good time to claim while we still have a doc in the mix.
So out of 10 remaining we have at least 3 blue and 3 red. And probably 4 green. I'm going to also assume that 2 of us have bombs planted on us.
This could be a messy lynch.
Other than Pandain and orgolove I still think the remaining Mafia are TheMango and Mr.Zergling.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 19:53 GMT
#1401
On January 14 2011 04:38 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2011 22:12 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 13 2011 15:07 why wrote:
So, I did some math:

The split right now is likely 7 townies and 3 mafia. If we double mislynch today then we are down to 5 townies. Then, there are would be 2 NK so, barring a medic save or a vet hit we'd be down to 3. And then we have lost. Let me repeat that:

If we double mislynch today and there isn't a medic save or vet hit tonight, we lose.

What does this mean? Mafia are much more likely to strongly push lynches and take risks today, as they will win if they can lynch two towns. Therefore, we need to be very careful with orgolove's suggested plan. If orgolove is red, then he has just picked two green players that seem particularly scummy to lynch, hope town sheeps with him, and then when they both flip green there are no consequences because he just won the game for the reds. Because of this, we should try to lynch someone other than TheMango or Soulfire. I don't care which doesn't get lynched (orgolove's case for both is pretty convincing, to be honest) but only one of them at most should because if they are both town then orgolove just won the game for mafia. I also think it is suspicious that as soon as orgolove posted that, three other people immediately followed his lead (ilovejohn, Mr. Zergling, and Jackal58, although Jackal58 since changed one of his votes to pandain). This, to me, looks like mafia is jumping on a green bandwagon which means one or both of TheMango and Soulfire are probably green.

I still think Mr. Zergling is a likely red especially given the bandwagon, and ilovejohn and jackal58 are also much more on my radar now given their quick jumping on the bandwagon. So, I'm going to switch my second vote from soulfire to ilovejohn for now (since jackal58 at least changed his vote off of soulfire).

TLDR; Orgolove could be mafia, don't let both soulfire and TheMango die.

My vote for Soulfire and TheMango was just to see which of them Pandain was going to attempt to divert the vote from.
You could well be right about Orgolove. I could be right about Pandain. I sent Orgolove a PM yesterday regarding Paindains seemingly uncanny ability to switch the vote. It was sent to see if Pandain and Orgolove were talking to each other. At this point it does not appear that they are. Pandain did exactly what I expected him to do. If he and Orgo are both red I think they would both probably have switched up the vote to me. But it appears they are both aligned differently. I cannot say with any certainty which one is Red but one of them is. I think if we lynch them both today we will reduce reds kp and at the least extend the game through another day cycle that will allow one of our dts to claim and tell us who the remaining 2 mafia are. On that basis I am going to vote Orgolove and Pandain for lynch today.


There are several things wrong with this paragraph. For one, why do you think that out of orgo and me one of us has to be red? You never responded to when I rebutted your "argument" against me(which was really just "lets lynch the dt so mafia don't have to shoot him.").

I want you to respond to this. Why do you think out of us two one of us has to be red, and why don't you think the other people are better lynches?


On January 10 2011 05:57 Pandain wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm back.

First off, I'd like to express my satisfaction to God that he made Brockett be inactive, as that helped us alot.

Second off, I'd like to emphasize a certain point I had made earlier.

You have to be active. In the course of 24 hours, only 5 posts had been made. I find this very disturbing to me. In fact, even though I have already admitted I fake claimed DT, I have been roleblocked for the third time in a row.

How many times are you gonna claim DT? I think you are forgetting which lies you told when.

I already explained it to you. You are either red or extremely poor at picking lynch targets. Neither is a loss to town.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 21:12 GMT
#1408
On January 14 2011 05:54 why wrote:
I am going to switch my vote to Jackal58 because he was in on the bandwagon, it looks like no one else is going to vote for ilovejohn, and I don't want both TheMango and soulfire lynched. At least Jackal is on everyone's radar. I might not be back before deadline and I want to consolidate the votes.

I'm not going to vote for pandain because I think he is town. He has been posting frequently, has fostered discussion, and led the lynch on the godfather, for god's sake. He missed a bunch, but at this point it is too late to lynch for messing up; we need to lynch red tonight. There are definitely scummier people.

Which bandwagon was that?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#1412
D3 is probably going to be mod killed?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 13 2011 23:14 GMT
#1417
On January 14 2011 07:50 orgolove wrote:
And really. Did flamewheel pull a fast one on us and the game thus does not have any town investigation roles? What is the DT doing in this game?

I've been asking that for 2 days now. That would be quite the laugh on us now wouldn't it?
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 14 2011 01:58 GMT
#1421
Well you just pooched a perfectly good mod kill.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 14 2011 02:34 GMT
#1425
I've been kicking this around for the last few hours. I believe we have all made a fatal error. Night KP doesn't add up. It has remained at 2. Night 1 was 3 kills but one of those was Op Z. If we started at 6 and are now at 3 it would seem that their kp should have dropped to 1 on night 5. But it hasn't. Nobody has claimed protection so it seems to me we not only have no DTs but no Docs as well. But the really scary part is there are 5 mafia left. Not 3.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 14 2011 02:59 GMT
#1430
On January 14 2011 11:57 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2011 11:43 Pandain wrote:
On January 14 2011 05:04 flamewheel wrote:
Vote Tally for Day 6 Double Lynch

Soulfire (5): Mr.Zergling, orgolove, ilovejonn, Jackal, D3

Mr.Zergling (2): why, ShoCkeyy

TheMango (3): Mr.Zergling, orgolove, ilovejonn
Pandain (2): ShoCkeyy, TheMango,

Jackal58 (1): TheMango

d3_crescentia (2): Pandain, Soulfire

ilovejonn (4): why, Pandain, d3, Jackal

orgolove (1): ,Soulfire



Updated




If you're wrong again I'm going feel like an utter moron.
I don't like feeling like an utter moron.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 14 2011 03:03 GMT
#1434
Thank you very much Pandain.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 14 2011 03:25 GMT
#1437
I am so sorry guys.
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 14 2011 10:35 GMT
#1478
Well poop. Makes me wish I hadn't gone to bed.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 14 2011 15:13 GMT
#1481
On January 14 2011 17:18 TheMango wrote:
woops, 3 town, 3 mafia if there is a medic save, even then, if town doesn't instantly vote for someone right away and get to 3 votes first, mafia still win. So I think this game is pretty much over :/

Nope. Not game over. Play to win. Never quit.
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